KSSU: Revenge of Meta Knight Mafia - Game Over! Has Dreamland been conquered!?

[Xivii]

I love parroting people answering things for me.

I'm curious as to know where your sudden incriminating read came from. You've had me as null/town for most of this game and have only largely explained your reasoning for why my play had been null. Instead of focusing so much on explaining why someone else's view on me doesn't have merit, you should be validating your own.

Do you even have independent reasoning for why I should be lynched or why I am scummy?

HL can you answer to everything in this post. It's uncertain of what points convinced you Kooz was scum.

 

[Xivii]

It's unclear on*

 

[Hard Lemonade]

HL can you answer to everything in this post. It's uncertain of what points convinced you Kooz was scum.

From your post. It wasn't a sudden flip either. It was a gradual one. I still haven't read the middle of Day 1 and, at this stage at least, don't intend to. If EE ever gets onboard with me, then he probably will. I've given up on Adumb.

 

[Hard Lemonade]

@HL, This is why I think Kooz is scum. I'd suggest actually going to the posts so you can read everything that was quoted in them.

Spoiler

Can't copy the collapse

That post in particular. All though I took issue with the bit under the collapse tags.

 

[Tandora]

I'm gonna look at Tiger Woods specifically for today. He wasn't around much at all this game, Kuz didn't make much of a push for him despite him being on his "scum list", and he's the only one who didn't vote for Kuz. As far as I can recall, he didn't say anything about Kuz one way or another.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Request Tiger prod

Him and Nabe can totally die toDay

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Tandora, why did you never question Kuz' BLATANT buddying?

 

[Tandora]

Tandora, why did you never question Kuz' BLATANT buddying?

Pretty much the same reason I didn't question J's blatant buddying. =/

In retrospect, I can see where it was just down right wrong for Kuz to have the exact same reads as me. Although we play well together, we've never been on the same wavelength like that.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I'd appreciate if your reads weren't based on emotions and sentiments so much =/

 

[Gova]

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

100 posts through.
Beat looks icky (99 and general FE vibes).
HL is quiet. Who are the other heads?
Tanny is a bit off which could just be quirkiness.
Gheb and Tiger null.

 

[Tandora]

I'd appreciate if your reads weren't based on emotions and sentiments so much =/

I feel the same way. =/

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Vote Nabe

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

200 posts.
Ryker has some insights re: Gheb. Somehow avoids mentioning Kuz at all. Calls Tanny useless which is apt.
Tiger talks about Kuz/J and says he's on Kuz's side of the issue. Hadn't stepped into the issue prior.
Tandora sticks to disliking hydras and has some meta re: J and buddying.
Beat dislikes J's vote on HL and thinks he's scum with Tanny, which parrots Glyph only a post prior.
Gheb begins to post after HL mentions him to defend his "Is Kuz dead yet" post. Then he votes Beat, which seems like an odd switch. He cites SIFOM, which at least is unsurprising from Gheb, but is less than he had to say about Kuz. He justifies lynching Beat over Tanny but not over Kuz.
HL drops Gheb and moves to Tanny which is about as odd as Gheb's switch.
Tiger moves to Tanny in 195 when asked by Gheb who the play is. Tanny comments on Tiger trending with his votes (199).

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Done with D1. Fine with Zen, who pushed Kuz in 413 while Tiger and Tanny voted Glyph. Fine with Gheb, who pushed Kuz all of D1 and probably D2 as well. I like Tanny's 204 re: Tiger's vote trending and she's probably town as well. Taking a break, back later.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Request Tiger prod

@mod

Can you please prod Tiger? His inactivity is getting unbearable and I know for a fact he's not V/LA.

I'm not a fan of the "posting in snippets while catching up" approach. Nabe, please cut the crap and come up with solidly formed opinions after reading everything carefully. Nobody gives a damn about what you think of player X in situation Y. We want to know what you think of them now.

 

[Tandora]

For what it's worth, Kuz's claimed intended communication for N2 was Zen. Don't know if it means anything, but it's the only part of the message I didn't fully explain previously.

Below is the majority of Tiger's posts on D2:

If you and kuz are truly of different alignment, then I am voting you Gheb.

@ Tandora, what do you think of Gheb?

@ Kuz who is the play to you?

I wont be very active this week, but I couldn't resist.

@ Gheb

Explain to me why again he should've sent the message to you. Also...



How does him sending you a message confirm or deny there is a liar between the two of you?

He seems to have very strong stances against Gheb, who Kuz pushed the hardest against in his email to me. The part where Tiger asks what I think of Gheb followed by his question to Kuz of who's the play feels like a set up to me.

In Kuz's letter to me, he did say that Tiger tends to buddy people so he treated that as a null, but honestly, I've never really gotten that impression of Tiger before.

@Gheb, how do you feel about people who vote at the eleventh hour and it hammers scum? Nabe didn't really participate on D2, but he was a replacement with over 20 pages to read and not been added to the game until 3 days before deadline.

He did vote the exact same minute I did for the hammer. I considered the possibility that he was scum and made a follow up vote to look like he was "helping", but if you look at his following two posts, they are one liners and one minute apart each following his vote. The odds of scum looking at the thread when I voted, post a fake vote and post in less than one minute is so astronomically low, I'm gonna deem it impossible.

With that in mind, I'm inclined to think Nabe is town. Scum could have not voted and Nabe had the replacement johns if called out on it. A NL would have gone through and it would have been devastating for town.

Kuz pushed way too hard for Gheb and HL as potential scum. There's the small chance he was yelling HL's name to throw off the scent of his teammate. I honestly don't know how Kuz busses since I haven't seen him as scum since his first game.

Tiger's activity has been terrible, his content null, his vote patterns scummy, and his nudges line up way too much with Kuz.
VOTE TIGER WOODS

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I'm up at this ungodly hour with a Subway breakfast sandwich. Let's do this.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Just got to Tiger's 680, which you've quoted. Something much more basic about that post is that it's straight-up a post from a Kuz hivemind. That's the most singly incriminating post I've ever seen. Would townTiger get his hackles up like that just because he thought Kuz was town? I honestly don't know. My mindvote is on Tiger.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Gheb I KNOW hes telling the truth.

I don't know if you're telling the truth.

Don't insult my intelligence... if you two are TRULY of opposite alignment, then you, gheb, are scum.

why so scum

Nabe: Tiger or Hard Lemonade and why?

Tiger. His play all game has been Kuz-centric, while Kuz barely talked about Tiger aside from calling him a null. His 680 and the post I quoted above are bad.

Kuz's push for HL just after 630 was loose and not at all incriminating, and looks like distancing. But it's not worth labeling as anything other than null, Kuz being a slippery fellow and all. HL has some low points aside from that, but Tiger is all low points.

Vote: Tiger

I'm not a fan of the "posting in snippets while catching up" approach. Nabe, please cut the crap and come up with solidly formed opinions after reading everything carefully. Nobody gives a damn about what you think of player X in situation Y. We want to know what you think of them now.

And now you know, given that I only took a handful of posts to do it in. There are other threads for advice.

What brings on the vote for me?

 

[Gova]

 

[~ Gheb ~]

@Gheb, how do you feel about people who vote at the eleventh hour and it hammers scum?

It's null but also kind of depends on the situation. If there are no particular circumstances given I'd treat it as null. One addition to your post is that HL could still be scum. Gonna read some of Tiger's posts but I doubt he's a bad play toDay.

Unvote

 

[Xivii]

Why did you vote for Nabe in the first place?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I'm not a fan of the "posting in snippets while catching up" approach. Nabe, please cut the crap and come up with solidly formed opinions after reading everything carefully.

Scum often takes that approach. I still think his sheeping of the anti-Tiger movement is kind of scummy. He can totally die.

HL too.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Scum often takes that approach. I still think his sheeping of the anti-Tiger movement is kind of scummy. He can totally die.

HL too.

You're going to accuse me of being fluffy by posting my thoughts as I read, then say that I'm sheeping which means that my opinions aren't informed by my read.

What should I do, Lord Gheb? And what are you doing?

I question the phrase "scum often takes that approach" which is vaguely worded. Certainly it's an approach that scum might take. But what scum have you seen take it? What conditions merit your use of the word 'often'?

Then I'll ask why your read on JTB is apparently not a factor in voting for me, given your answer to Zen, and I'll point out that the way you worded your response implies that your read is recent and solely brought on by me and my play.

Why did you unvote?

 

[Xivii]

Vote: Tiger

 

[Tandora]

I don't know about you guys, but I'd like to push Tiger's lynch instead of getting a replacement. I'd even be happy with a modkill. With the lack of NK on D1, even if we're wrong, town can afford the extra death.

Frankly, activity has been terrible and we're just dragging our feet.

Tiger, you're at L-1. Post or die.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Tiger isn't posting and I'm pretty much completely V/LA other than updates on ducktales mafia. You should try to gain info @HL, Nabe before hammering Tiger.

 

[Tandora]

Tiger isn't posting and I'm pretty much completely V/LA other than updates on ducktales mafia. You should try to gain info @HL, Nabe before hammering Tiger.

I'd love to hear more from HL, but he's about as inactive as Tiger.

What are people's thoughts on how hard Kuz pushed for a HL lynch?

What do people think of Zen supposedly being Kuz's N2 choice?

 

[Xivii]

I'm very fine with lynching Tiger now. If the game doesn't end, then I would push HL tomorrow.

 

[Hard Lemonade]

Will be content with hammering Tiger after Zen posts why he wants to pursue me tomorrow so I can show him why he is wrong and why we should lynch Nabe or an outside shot at Tandora. I'll know tomorrow.

 

[Xivii]

You think Tandora is mafia?

 

[Hard Lemonade]

No, I don't. I think if Tiger flips town, then Nabe is scum, but I see no reason not to go ahead and prove that now rather than waiting to LyLo to creep up and find that I got lynched because people went in with the wrong idea.

 

[Xivii]

Well Tandora is definitely not the choice over you. Kooz wouldn't have networked his bud and she was clearly being manipulated.

My reasoning for you is that Kooz only decided to push you near the end of the day. And you've been cruising all game.

 

[Hard Lemonade]

I have Nabe as scum in the event of Tiger town via process of elimination. Let me get back to you tomorrow on why Nabe is scum outside of that. Don't end the day prematurely.

 

[Xivii]

Alright you or Gheb have hammer.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Vote Tiger

His death can only help now.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I wish Gheb could see my 905.

 

[Gova]

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Vote Tiger

His death can only help now.

I hate you. I hate you. I hate you.