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Knuckles for Brawl!

Storm Eagle

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I must agree. Sega should have left him to die or at least kept him dead for a couple of games.

Seriously, why bring him back the next game you come out with? Why!?!? It makes the entire ending of SA2 pointless.
Capcom isn't much better. Just think of Zero's "deaths".

@ Topic: Knuckles over Shadow any day. But I can't really see two 3rd party characters for just one company.
 

Earthbenderjump5

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how did i not see this before.

knuckles over any sonic character anyday.
but tikal is pertty cool cuz she uses magic.
but yes knuckles.
no other.
tails sucks.
he is a nerd.
and bland.
i think.
and shadow.
urgh shadow.
he is much like a dark sonic.
not saying i don't like him though.
but knuckles is the best.
and i just wonder whats wrong with silver?
annnd. i know he is a sticker.
but we need knuckles.
 

Naoshi

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knuckles is good

but shadow is better!

Not trying to be mean or anything just pointing out that knuckles is just a sidekick but shadow would be a good villain, and he doesn't even have to have a similar moveset to sonic.
Shadow sucks and Knuckles is Sonic's rival not a sidekick. :p
 

Zycor

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Uh... Shadow didn't ruin Sonic, Sonic Team and SEGA did with the added help from 4KIDS.

I don't think a character can potentially ruin a series (Scrappy Doo from Scooby Doo is a different story.) The worsening camera, bad controls, over dramatic story lines and broken gameplay ruined the Sonic Series.

4KIDS killed anything that made me want to watch Sonic X and now we have to listen to them in the games which isn't THAT big of a deal compared to everything else.

Sonic Team and SEGA aren't trying anymore, they don't put enough time into their games (1 year tops is what they work on) and look how good their games turn out... BAD. Compared to Nintendo, SEGA needs to learn a few lessons and go back to what they used to be; reliable, dependable, and good.

The Sonic series is also becoming increasingly annoying with more junk like too many voices in the level telling you what to do... At least make it turn off-able, I don't enjoy being told what to do in a game and the least they can do is make it so you can turn off that feature or make a skipable tutorial (Like in Sonic Rush Adventure.) Although, what's the point of a manual anymore because they put everything in the games now >=(.

I'm glad Sonic is in brawl and I don't think anyone else from the Sonic series other than Tails or Knuckles should even be in, AT or Playable.
 

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Uh... Shadow didn't ruin Sonic, Sonic Team and SEGA did with the added help from 4KIDS.

I don't think a character can potentially ruin a series (Scrappy Doo from Scooby Doo is a different story.) The worsening camera, bad controls, over dramatic story lines and broken gameplay ruined the Sonic Series.

4KIDS killed anything that made me want to watch Sonic X and now we have to listen to them in the games which isn't THAT big of a deal compared to everything else.

Sonic Team and SEGA aren't trying anymore, they don't put enough time into their games (1 year tops is what they work on) and look how good their games turn out... BAD. Compared to Nintendo, SEGA needs to learn a few lessons and go back to what they used to be; reliable, dependable, and good.

The Sonic series is also becoming increasingly annoying with more junk like too many voices in the level telling you what to do... At least make it turn off-able, I don't enjoy being told what to do in a game and the least they can do is make it so you can turn off that feature or make a skipable tutorial (Like in Sonic Rush Adventure.) Although, what's the point of a manual anymore because they put everything in the games now >=(.

I'm glad Sonic is in brawl and I don't think anyone else from the Sonic series other than Tails or Knuckles should even be in, AT or Playable.
I agree.
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HolyNightmare

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What so great about Knuckles anyway? He's a moron who is easily duped, can't protect the Master Emerald for jack **** and only follow Sonic like his personal lapdog these days.
 

Rakath

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What so great about Knuckles anyway? He's a moron who is easily duped, can't protect the Master Emerald for jack **** and only follow Sonic like his personal lapdog these days.
Good point, it is sad how he's been slowly turning into Tails over the past several games.

Knuckles has dreadloks, and spiked hands (and a snazzy cowboy hat). There isn't much not to love about him if you want a loner that can shatter mountains. I also have way more fun playing levels as Knuckles than as anyone else.
 

HolyNightmare

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Good point, it is sad how he's been slowly turning into Tails over the past several games.

Knuckles has dreadloks, and spiked hands (and a snazzy cowboy hat). There isn't much not to love about him if you want a loner that can shatter mountains. I also have way more fun playing levels as Knuckles than as anyone else.
I stopped reading when you mentioned the cowboy hat, why not bring out the fact Tails still rule in the comics since you used a movie reference?
The fact is that Sega just plain ruined Sonic, Tails and Knuckles....while they keep crapping new characters like Shadow and Silver the ***hog to steal the spotlight.
 

Earthbenderjump5

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so what makes tails so good?

and why you came here to hate on kuckles.
no flaming.
please.
if you love tails so much why don't you go look up his porn and stare at it in you delight.

well now.
that is one point there that really needs to be taken into serious consideration and even more.
zycor your most definately right. if they spent more time on there games im sure they would be great. i actually thought both of the sonic adventure games where extremely great.
i love the first one more though. even if it wasn't 2 playa. :D
 

Rakath

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I mentioned the cowboy hat as a joke, you rightly have a limited sense of humor...
 

HolyNightmare

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so what makes tails so good?

and why you came here to hate on kuckles.
no flaming.
please.
if you love tails so much why don't you go look up his porn and stare at it in you delight.

well now.
that is one point there that really needs to be taken into serious consideration and even more.
zycor your most definately right. if they spent more time on there games im sure they would be great. i actually thought both of the sonic adventure games where extremely great.
i love the first one more though. even if it wasn't 2 playa. :D
Considering I was freaking not being serious, if you actually went to the Tails official topic you would understand why I tried this.
Just testing how you guys would react if your favorite character kept getting bashed for no reason at all.
Also your porn remark was extremely uncalled for, what the hell? I could say the same thing for the fact you like Knuckles.

P.S. Knuckles is one of my favorite characters, I don't hate him at all.
P.S.S. Learn to spell a bit more correctly, I could barely understand what you were trying to say.
 
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Niether Tails or Knuckles is getting in. Get it thtough your heads.
 

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Really because personally I don't see any good Sonic characters, Sega ***** Sonic, Tails and Knuckles in the *** a long time ago.
Shadow is a freaking emo clone, Amy is a pink annoying stalking ***** and the majority of the cast sucks so much they aren't even word a mention.
IMO knuckles is the one character who us untarnished and has not spun into crappy story-lines.

i can't wait for the day when it is just sonic vs the death egg. Just when you think of sonic think of sonic 2.
 

Circus

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IMO knuckles is the one character who us untarnished and has not spun into crappy story-lines.
I agree with this, but I also think Knuckles' purpose has been forgotten a bit.

Afterall, in the past couple games he's been in (Sonic '06 and Sonic Heroes), he's been doing what? Just kind of walking around waiting for Sonic to do something interesting so he can tag along? I thought he had something big, green and important to be guarding. . . .
 

Circus

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Sega might as well have completely forgotten the existence of Angel Island, anyway about Knuckles I would also like to see him but not before Tails.
Maybe they'll play Brawl, hear the music, and come to their senses.

Or maybe they won't.

Maybe they'll just disown Tails and Knuckles and add a new, chartreuse hedgehog named "Rival", and he'll ride a moped.

At this point, the latter seems more likely.
 

Circus

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Yeah and start not calling them Sonic games. But rather The Hedgehogs. Even though that sounds more like a Sitcom title...
Hm. . . Sonic and The Hedgehogs. . . .

Wait! I've seen this before!

 

SonicMario

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lol. Then they sart doing lame Sonic Underground type music XD. In which you use the Guitar Hero Controller only for that part ROFL
 

Circus

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lol. Then they sart doing lame Sonic Underground type music XD. In which you use the Guitar Hero Controller only for that part ROFL
Sega officially has the concept for their next Sonic installment. Nice work, sir. I can't wait to get my hands on a game of such high caliber.
 

Rakath

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I agree with this, but I also think Knuckles' purpose has been forgotten a bit.

Afterall, in the past couple games he's been in (Sonic '06 and Sonic Heroes), he's been doing what? Just kind of walking around waiting for Sonic to do something interesting so he can tag along? I thought he had something big, green and important to be guarding. . . .
The only real tarnish on Knux's record was the turning his early gullability into a gimmic in Sonic Advanced 2.

"Hey Sonic, see a funny thing happened..."
"YOU LET EGGMAN TRICK YOU AGAIN!?"

However everyone forgets about it since it was a GBA title and those games had no real plot at all. And the gimmicy nature was to bring humor as Sonic kept running away from his friends that game.

In Heroes I assumed Knuckles was there because they each got an invite from Eggman, and Tails got Knuckles first for whatever reason. I haven't played 06 yet. And the Riders games are... well, do they have plots? I mean they are slightly fun to play, but do they have plots?
 

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Sega are to occupied into making Shadow uber to actually care about his original classic characters,
I also know that Knuckles became a laughing stock when the decided to make Sonic X.
The 4kids dub is so horrible now that I think about it, I can only watch the show proprely if its in Japanese.
 

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Wait just to add i really dont think anymore than sonic or knuckles should be included into to brawl i mean sega seem desperate at the moment relating all of the sonic characters into pointless or bad games/ storylines such as mario and sonic at the olympic games. Sega need a hit and they need one with Brawl
 

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ha? do i want to get *****?
Considering I was freaking not being serious, if you actually went to the Tails official topic you would understand why I tried this.
Just testing how you guys would react if your favorite character kept getting bashed for no reason at all.
Also your **** remark was extremely uncalled for, what the hell? I could say the same thing for the fact you like Knuckles.

P.S. Knuckles is one of my favorite characters, I don't hate him at all.
P.S.S. Learn to spell a bit more correctly, I could barely understand what you were trying to say.
yeah, sorry for that.
i'm going to go there and see what your are talking about.
yeah. i will, i can if i want too. i was tired. eariler yesterday, it felt like i was going to die i couldn't walk across the house. I had to go take a nap.

Niether Tails or Knuckles is getting in. Get it thtough your heads.
there was no need for that, and yes there is a chance that they are going to be in. but not much of one. more that tingle i suppose.
 

Del Money

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he will be a pc, i have a dream.......
So did Martin Luther King, and yet blacks are still finding new ways to make other blacks fit their stupid stereotypes....ooops off-topic

Agree, the only reason got in is because of the popularity, thats it, because lets face it the sonic has lost its spark, does he deserve it? IMO no, sure his 2d games rock, but that doesnt change the fact that now his games are awful... and yet these guys want ANOTHER character, Im sorry but lets give that spot to someone that deserves it, like megaman... hell even bomberman...
Though I agree with your general point, you say that as if new-age Mega Man and Bomberman games aren't in the ****ty-game category themselves...

Tails's importance in the retro Sonic games + Tails's importance in the recent Sonic games > Knuckles's importance in the retro Sonic games + Knuckle's higher importance in the newer Sonic games.
That's a damm lie. Tails is by no means more important than Knuckles. They ARE essentially of equal importances. Tails is just an earlier addition that Knuckles and happens to have been Sonic's official sidekick. That would be the ONLY factor that could possibly giv Tails any priority over Knuckles. Sega in no way showed Tails superiority over Knuckles though, like they showed Sonic's over Knuckles by having Sonic always save the day. Even still, Sonic VS Knuckles in a battle has always been universally accepted as a tie...that is until Shadow came about and dropped Knuckles to Tails' status.

Get over it people, Tails is more likely than Knuckles, and even then, Tails would is still extremely unlikely.
Knuckles might have a bigger fanbase than Tails, especially for Brawl. I'm not 100% sure of this, nor am I making a claim but in real life, and on SWF, I've met more people that favor Knuckles over Tails. If Knuckles and a larger fanbase than Tails, that could be all the edge he would need. Tails is more recognized than Knuckles because of his appearances in the original cartoon and been the first playable character in a Sonic game that wasn't Sonic himself. That's the only edge Tails has. The gap betweek Knuckles and Tails priority is not as larger as you think...but if I were made to take a wild guess, I would agree and say Tails has the slight edge on Knuckles.

I really don't care

Knuckles > Tails
PsychoIncarnate wins...

I can see Sakurai putting Shadow in for the sake of having a rival/villain.
Funny...I can't.

Knuckles=Sonic>every other video game character (imo)
I 100% agree. But as much as Knuckles is my favorite video game character of all time and as cool and awesomely fitting as he would be as a Brawler, I'd be upset were he to make it in the roster over the 2nd most deserving 3rd party character, Mega Man.

why not bring out the fact Tails still rule in the comics since you used a movie reference?
What the hell are you on? Tails doesn't rule jack **** in the comics...Antoine does.

Niether Tails or Knuckles is getting in. Get it thtough your heads.
No one said they were. STFU.

The 4kids dub is so horrible now that I think about it, I can only watch the show proprely if its in Japanese.
...or you could just not watch Sonic X at all since it sucks balls...

Also what is 4kids
...the legal way to beat off to an 8-year-old

there was no need for that, and yes there is a chance that they are going to be in. but not much of one. more that tingle i suppose.
Yes. Talis and Knuckles are not by any means likely. Would it be easier for Sakurai to just grab other character from a 3rd party franchise that he is always representing? Without a doubt. Would it be fairly and ideal to the Brawl fanbase? Probably not.
 

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Look, Sega already has 1 rep, and with the likelihood of a small amount of 3rd party characters...
2 reps wouldn't seem fair to other 3rd party participants.

So, no Knuckles should not.
Although both him and Tails is a GREAT idea.
 

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As much as I would love either Tails or Knuckles.... I'm hoping for aa "real" game where Mario characters challenge Sonic characters to SSB-like fights.

My view on the topic is:

Tails will be an AT.
Knuckles will be part of the Angel Island Stage (he will be setting traps all over the place, most likely).

As for my special moves Knuckles suggestion:

B: Throws Boulder (picks up a boulder out of the ground, and throws it forward)

B >: Knuckles Combo (kinda like Roy/Marths, except with fists: Ends with a bomb-like explosion, a fiery uppercut. or a double punch, depending on where you tilt the Joystick)

B V: Major Eruption (burrows underground, and comes back up with a fist) Sonic Battle

B ^: Extra jump + glide (Sonic Advace 3 (when teamed with Tails))
 

Del Money

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Look, Sega already has 1 rep, and with the likelihood of a small amount of 3rd party characters...
2 reps wouldn't seem fair to other 3rd party participants.

So, no Knuckles should not.
Although both him and Tails is a GREAT idea.
Why are you telling me stuff I already know and already said?
 

Del Money

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I didn't specifically say these things to you and/or directed at you, did I?
One could only assume since you posted right under me in due time...

And no, I refuse to spend 15 minutes reading the entire topic to find something has been pointed out already, I have no time for that.
I didn't ask you to. I just figured yyou read my post above yours...as that shouldn't take 15 minutes to read.

I thought I'd reassure you one more time...
Just checking....since you're a fellow Diddy maniac, how about we not argue?
 
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