Kirk's Everything Ike Guide **New** Update: New Wifi Matches Added

[ama(m/t)]

if you have never played brawl before, i would try wolf and spam lazers and other b moves
the high stun on lasers and the quickness of his side b and the priority of his up b make for an excellent camp, especially v. people who hae never played
the lasers shut down a lot of people, and anyone who gets in range is like to eat your b moves if you space them right

most likely they won't have him unlocked on release date tourney though
in that case choose mario, he's really fast and powerful, plus if you're unsure of what to do you can spam his fireballs which are ********

 

[Fader]

I never said I'd pick him up right away and win.

I'd just like to play against good people.

 

[ama(m/t)]

who is talking to you?

 

[FishkeeperTimmay!]

Kirk, I hope you know that you are a great player and a role model for many of the Ike players out there. I extend my appreciation for the time and dedication you have put in to develop this characters metagame.

Thank you. ^^

 

[Kirk]

Kirk, I hope you know that you are a great player and a role model for many of the Ike players out there. I extend my appreciation for the time and dedication you have put in to develop this characters metagame.

Thank you. ^^

Nicest post I've ever recieved o.O

Thank you very much for the praise :D

 

[ama(m/t)]

you're the only guide writer who goes out of their way to discover every little thing about each move, and every practical use

plus you write in real english and use formatting properly unlike certain sticky guides
that's why this is my fav guide, besides elliot's 2.0

 

[Kirk]

you're the only guide writer who goes out of their way to discover every little thing about each move, and every practical use

plus you write in real english and use formatting properly unlike certain sticky guides
that's why this is my fav guide, besides elliot's 2.0

Hah that 2.0 guide is pretty funny...probably the most concise

 

[fatmatt]

Wow those are some really nice Wifi matches, doesn't seem like there is any lag at all, even between NY and Texas.

 

[pyroroth]

The misc. videos were great.

 

[ODIN787]

love how you use ike and Love the quality of your videos what do you use to make the videos?

 

[Kirk]

love how you use ike and Love the quality of your videos what do you use to make the videos?

Just a regular USB capture card....its nothing special really.

 

[ODIN787]

Just a regular USB capture card....its nothing special really.

is not that i think is special is just that i like how the video looks , hope to see more of your videos soon and thanks for telling me how you made the videos.take care

 

[RAAR]

Do Ikes counter frames last as long as marths or is he lame like Roys and you have to basically activate it right before the attack hits?

 

[AlphaDragoon2002]

I believe Ike's doesn't last as long as Marth's, but is longer than Roy's.

 

[Kirk]

Do Ikes counter frames last as long as marths or is he lame like Roys and you have to basically activate it right before the attack hits?

The startup is slower. I know this for sure...but I'm unsure about the length...I would guess it is shorter also, like alphadragoon said.

 

[Conformal_Invariance]

Thanks for all the effort once again, Kirk.

Everyone appreciates your work, obviously!

 

[Marthgreil]

I wouldn't call a 'glutton for punishment' a compliment...but I digress.

I've used the so called 'Grand Viper' in numerous videos...sorry I can't point out specifically where. All the videos I upload can be found <<Here>>

Edit: You can see it done in my recently added wifi matches. I believe it was in match 3.

I never meant to insult your friend Sharky. Also, I subscribe.

Your matches against Hawk are amazing. You always seem to be a life ahead of him.

 

[The Mediator]

What's REALLY funny about the Hawk matches is that in the majority of them, something really bad happened to Hawk at one point or another... for example, the Yoshi's Island slip.

The reason?
Kirk has mad hax!!!

Lol, jk, but Mike Hawk, you got hella screwed on some of those matches cos of really stupid things like the Yoshi's Island...

I'd like to coin a new term: "Pulling a Hawk" is bouncing off of Yoshi's Island to your death after Aether =D

 

[Kirk]

What's REALLY funny about the Hawk matches is that in the majority of them, something really bad happened to Hawk at one point or another... for example, the Yoshi's Island slip.

The reason?
Kirk has mad hax!!!

Lol, jk, but Mike Hawk, you got hella screwed on some of those matches cos of really stupid things like the Yoshi's Island...

I'd like to coin a new term: "Pulling a Hawk" is bouncing off of Yoshi's Island to your death after Aether =D

That was really funny when it happened...I can't remember exactly what he said, but he said it was called like the Hawk Dive or the Flying Hawk...something like that.

You'd have to ask him lol.

 

[Mike Hawk]

i called it the "Grand HawK"

 

[Fe Lords]

hey Mike where do you live in Tx

 

[Marthgreil]

i called it the "Grand HawK"

Oh. You are here. You are good but you either kill yourself or die to a well timed C stick smash. You could try counter. That would be to slow right. In the videos you did win iwas because you started to copy Kirk. Good idea.

 

[Cronos_Rainbow]

Looking at those videos Marth and Robot are a whole lot more deadly than that if played well.
As for the Ike - not to sound like an arrogant jerk but I can see a lot that can be improved in your game. Bairs, Uairs and low percent spikes would help your game a lot - as would some fox-trotting and pivot game.

 

[Mike Hawk]

hey Mike where do you live in Tx

in a small town called Taylor, its about 30 mins away from Austin

Oh. You are here. You are good but you either kill yourself or die to a well timed C stick smash. You could try counter. That would be to slow right. In the videos you did win iwas because you started to copy Kirk. Good idea.

I don't want to give excuses.
also I have my own style, I never copy.

 

[AlphaDragoon2002]

Oh. You are here. You are good but you either kill yourself or die to a well timed C stick smash. You could try counter. That would be to slow right. In the videos you did win iwas because you started to copy Kirk. Good idea.

Man, why are you insulting the guy? Even though Kirk won more of the time he did well and was adapting pretty quickly.

I say good job to both Kirk and Mike.

 

[Marthgreil]

>_< Crap. I never mean to insult. I guess I'm just being a n00b. Bah. I'm just gonna shut-up now. Hawk well played. I think you did well in all your matches. Silly mistakes. That is all. Sorry.

 

[Sandman516]

Hey Kirk, i think i made a discovery from one of your videos. Can you try this out and see how you did it.

It happens at 2:25 in this video, http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h5WMkI9hHPs

*It looks like you do a u-tilt while sliding backwards, if you can figure out how to do this consistently, may I ask that you try this trick with other tilts/smashes/b-moves. thx

i think he jst did it...lol...like he did a short hop backwards n utilt at like da same time...( like a Luigi from melee )...very slippery...lol...but im jst takin a guess...

 

[smashmanic123]

its not really a trick, links down a when it hits the ground has a a shockwave effect. Kirks out of the range of the hit but not the shock wave so he gets pushed back because of that i believe.

 

[Doomflame]

thanks Kirk and is like using forward smash purposely followed up with Counter good? cause probably a lot of people will be attacking Ike when he uses moves like his forward smash so it sounds like a good idea to counter or guard

 

[Fizz-sama]

No point in even trying to use your counter after your fsmash. The opponent should be able to punish Ike if he missed a fsmash.

 

[shrinkray21]

Best Ike I've seen so far...period

 

[PwnageLlama]

Would it work to use Aether after Quick Draw (Grand viper style)?

Aether seems to do decent damage, and you cannot be knocked back.

 

[Fe Lords]

Kirk do Ike vs Wolf, DDD, Marth, Toon Link. Fox , Falco, Mk and Pit

 

[Doomflame]

No point in even trying to use your counter after your fsmash. The opponent should be able to punish Ike if he missed a fsmash.

yeah just saying try far away cause your opponent will probably run in to attack you so best chances say counter but if he grabs you your screwed

 

[Kirk]

New wifi matches vs. Ghey(Milos on these boards) and Crrrr.

All added to the first post. Hope you enjoy!

 

[The Mediator]

OMFG OMFG OMFG OMFG. AETHERCIDE, ON VIDEO 3 AGAINST CRRRR.

That was amazing.

 

[VersatileBJN]

Hi Kirk. Good fights as usual.

I notice a trend. You seem to cancel out the recovery frames of certain moves(like forward smash) by doing the neutral A combo. While this smart on your behalf, I am wondering if this is legitimate for offline play or is it just because of online lag? I'd hate to use that online and then see it doesn't work offline.

Thanks for your help.

- V

 

[VersatileBJN]

One thing that annoys me about Ike is how he's promoted as an absolute monster power wise, but all of his moves that pack a big punch are so situational that they'll rarely ever connect in competitive play(up smash, forward smash). I see people living to 120% + vs Ike on the regular. Even really good ones like Kirk.

Few extra Qs for ya Kirk


- Do you think we've seen the limit of Eruptions potential? I don't see it much from you in videos. If one anticipates interruption, why isn't air eruption an effective move? Sure you will take damage, but if timed so they attack the SA frames wont they probably die at 80% or higher? Same with ground usage, why the lack of eruption use?

- IMO down smash is his best smash attack overall. Do you think it lacks KO power? I don't see you use it much. It's definitely one of his faster moves.

Thanks again.

 

[comboking]

good matches you are the best are you going to be in the gamestop tourney! if you are can you tell me if it is Wifi?

 

[SmashRonin]

good matches you are the best are you going to be in the gamestop tourney! if you are can you tell me if it is Wifi?

Gamestop tourney isnt wifi, its in store.