Kingdom Hearts Mafia~Day 8~End Game!~Roles revealed!

[camo-man]

Rawr. Me still here. I go wit Ronike's 5 days.

 

[agentli]

*picks up stick*

*poke*
*poke*

Frozen looks like he's alive..somewhat...maybe?

*poke*
*poke*

FOS: Frozen for laying there doing nothing while posting in other threads

 

[Kujirudo]

I agree, it's weird that frozen is active in other threads but not in this one. Get active mate or let Oblivion replace him.

 

[Chill]

Most of you have been active which is great. I sent out pms to the few who haven't been.

Official vote count
Uncle Meat: 1
Eoringlas

Commonyoshi: 2
kujirudo, lance87

frozenflame751: 2
ligolski,karshkin

With 17 able to vote it takes 9 to lynch.

 

[Arkengate]

woah i voted on lance ty

 

[Arkengate]

Also, i think 5 days is a LONG time considering he is posting elsewhere... ill give him a FOS but he wont get off the hook by just a "i was busy" or something because he has been posting else where, and this thread has been somewhat active

ALSO: Oblivon, remember not to post your sig... itll get u a warning

 

[Tetaway]

I haven't been posting because this thread hasn't been moving.

 

[agentli]

I don't know, we had a great discussion on Commonyoshi not a few days ago (real days, not game days) I thought that was a great place to post.

 

[ligolski]

agreed, there was some discussion...

 

[Lance87]

There was a alot of discussion...

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Ah sorry guys about not being active. I've been a bit busy, which makes me wonder where you guys are getting the idea that I've been incredibly active in other threads. I haven't been particularly active on this site in general. That in itself is a bit suspicious that you guys are makign up nasty lies about me. =P

Anyway I'll try to catch up and post something of substance by Sunday at the latest.

 

[ligolski]

dude you can look where someone was last active and you have been to the site a couple times over the last few days...ur full of bull

but the vote purpose was served... unvote: forzenflame751 though the fact you post when there is a sudden pressuer on you rises my suspicions but its not worth much as of this point...

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

dude you can look where someone was last active and you have been to the site a couple times over the last few days...ur full of bull

but the vote purpose was served... unvote: forzenflame751 though the fact you post when there is a sudden pressuer on you rises my suspicions but its not worth much as of this point...

You're full of bull, please go quote me in these other threads where I was so incredibly active.

Also, its called I was PRODDED by Chill. When the mod sends you a PM telling you to get your *** active that usually means you should do that or else be replaced. My being here has nothing to do with your stupid pressure votes.

 

[agentli]

Well, hold on here. Just because he was lurking for the past few days and then comes back because he got caught doesn't erase the past few days of lurking. He still did it, whether he'll admit to it or not. It's just that we chose him over some other people. Just because you post, while it does prove to us you're still in the game, doesn't mean that you should be cleared suddenly of possibly attempting to lurk. My Fos is still on Frozen for twitching after being poked.

 

[Kujirudo]

Well, hold on here. Just because he was lurking for the past few days and then comes back because he got caught doesn't erase the past few days of lurking. He still did it, whether he'll admit to it or not. It's just that we chose him over some other people. Just because you post, while it does prove to us you're still in the game, doesn't mean that you should be cleared suddenly of possibly attempting to lurk. My Fos is still on Frozen for twitching after being poked.

Yes, I agree. It seems like you, frozen, are saying that we shouldn't suspect you just because you weren't active enough. Well, that is actually a good reason to suspect somebody. You may be back now, you still have been lurking. And lurking is bad.

 

[DiamondFalcon]

Yeah, if you received your PMs from Chill, that means you have been coming to the site, and that means you are either avoiding the game or lurking. Both of which suggest that you are mafia and want to help the town as little as possible while still remaining out of suspicion. Maybe I'll change my mind if you make a great defense, but until then I don't think your reason is good enough.

 

[ligolski]

ok...I will quote your activity elsewhere...
your last post->

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Old 01-21-2007, 02:45 PM #452
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Booooooo incredibly tedious day 1's! Boooooooo lurkers/inactives!

Unvote: Ronike
Vote: SmashNinja

I've still got my eye on you Ronike/Uncle Meat.
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there I copied that right off where I found you last posting...

your next post after the game came back I believe from night...

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2-02-2007, 03:35 PM
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The Thing (Sheepyman Returns! Day 1, Evening)
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Posted By frozenflame751
You're not serious are you? I sure hope not. In...

You're not serious are you? I sure hope not.

In any event, regardless of whether sheepyman is trustworthy or not as long as he's willign to help I don't object to him being around.
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and another too...

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02-03-2007, 09:11 PM
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Sicily, Italy Mafia- Day 5
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Posted By frozenflame751
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notice the dates on those...anyone can see others posts by going to their profile
and on top of that, I have seen other activity times, that I can't view, so you guys will have to take my word on it...I have been monitoring his activity b/c it wasn't like him not to post...

 

[commonyoshi]

I cant speak for frozenflame because I dont like monitoring someone's profile. It feels kinda like cheating, but I dont know why.

I haven't been posting because this thread hasn't been moving.

LIAR! Make up a better excuse next time.

Hey Chill. I'll be gone from the 13th to the 16th.

 

[camo-man]

Tet, if no one talk, you make talk! Same for me too...

 

[Lance87]

Oh yea...I'm going to FalconPunchion the 18th...that might mean i'll be inactive the 16/17th-19th... dunno

 

[Kujirudo]

Frozen hasn't been posting in this thread for 2/3 weeks if you look at his last post here. That was on the 21th of January. Now it's the 9th of February. That's almost 3 weeks ago. Kinda weird to be active in The Thing but not in this game eh?

 

[commonyoshi]

Actually, The Thing has been innactive for a whole week now.

PS: Curse you all! (Thing people)

 

[ºOblivionº]

Man this is exciting I hope I can replace somone o.o lol.

 

[agentli]

Events of Day 2

Fist few posts, we're all confused on where to turn, as well as suspicions on smashninja, who we later felt was town.

Fine, but we still stuck on ideas... >_>

(for once not using his "me" language)

Then some people tried to run down the list of characters, but that got nowhere, as evidenced by a quote from kuji...

This is booooooooooooooring.
Anybody knows a good joke?

Name claim.

Out of nowhere comes Commonyoshi, trying to start something out of the boredom. I think we overlooked this next quote from Diamondfalcon. It's not a harmful idea...but I'm not sure where it will get us.

Another option is maybe we can all post one person we are most suspicious of, using FOS. You don't have to state a reason unless someone asks, but it might be nice info to have. We'll all participate and we can eliminate the inactives too.

Chain of events:
1)Kuji FOS's Common
2)Ligolski immediately votes Common
3)Ronike FOS's Common, reasoning:

Better than lynching someone bc of a stupid vote. I allow people to defend themselves before I vote them.

4)Common then refuses to defend himself.
5)Jazzyswimmer FOS's Common
6)After refusing to defend himself, Kujirudo places a Vote on Common
7)I defend Common, DiamondFalcon FOS's everyone who voted Common (kuji, ligolski)
8)Ligolski proposes I may be mafia in partnership with Common
9)Lance87 votes Common without reasoning or FOS first, perhaps reasoning:

Does everyone remember that it was common and agentli going after a name claim fairly early?

I forgot all about it. Common claimed and the Agentli started a list and tried to urge people to claim. My bet is that if common is scum then so is agentli.

Let's vote common and get this thing rolling, it's been day 2 for way too long.

10)I propose going after inactives
11)Karshkin votes Common
12)Ronike Votes Common after refusing to defend himself again
13)At that point, 1 vote on UM by Eorlingas, and 5 on Common
14)Common FOS's Kujirudo and Lance87
15)Ligolski:

ok, so common are you saying that kuj and lance are suspicous for bandwaggonning on you without much thought, cuz if thats what you are getting at then I believe that I agree...

BUT I do agree with lance who brang up that both of you (common and agentli) did start the first name claim and now it is especially suspicious that they seem to be working together again, even though denied by agentli...

and now that I think of it, I think I can see some sort of possible alterior motive for a name claim...maybe the mafia have to kill/capture the princesses like they did in KH1...doing this would truly lead them out into the open if this is a mafia goal...I have no clue but I think it it is definetly plausable, so I will leave my vote for now...

16)Jazzyswimmer votes Common
17)I vote UM
18)Arkengate votes Lance87. Reasoning:

I dont like the fact lance jumped the gun to want to vote him out for just SAYING we should do a name claim, and wanting to end the day really fast... Yea, its been day two for some time, but there isn't much going on, and i think he was just trying to get something happening! Wanting to hurry up and end the day so you can survive another one seems really suspicious...

Vote Lance87

I dont have any other FOS's at the moment.. But just a side note:

i am quite convinced that common isn't mafia. He wants a name claim, so he is probably pretty certain he won't end up getting lynched if a name claim happens, so his character is most likely town alligned.

19)Ligolski places a huge FOS on me
20)Eorlingas unvotes UM, places vote on Ligolski. Reasoning:

Ligolski was the first person to vote, but only after someone FOSed Common. Then, he argued strongly for lynching him, and then for Agentli, even though Agentli was more of a mediator.

21)Ronike places an FOS on me
22)DiamondFalcon FOS's Kujirudo. Reasoning:

Kujirudo, you seem very adamant at attacking Agentli even after he's claimed Pinnochio. He has said time and time before that he doesn't post a lie every time because technically his restriction says one lie per 'day', not 'post'. I believe him and it seems suspicious that you are jumping on him like that.
FOS: Kujirudo
I also think the people that are quick to jump on common are suspicious too, but it's still a toss because they could just be town against the name claim idea. I am against it as well, but I didn't jump on common because I figured he was just trying to get some action going. And from the looks of it, he succeeded.

23)Lance87 suggests I am mafia along with Common
24)Kujirudo rethinks decision, vote
25)Ligolski posts half page post attacking Common and I
26)I post half page post defending Common
27)DiamondFalcon votes Ligolski
27)Ligolski retracts, unvotes Common
28)I unvote UM
29)Kujirudo unvotes Common
30)Ronike refuses to unvote
31)DiamondFalcon unvotes Ligolski
32)Lance87 refuses to unvote Common
33)After Lance87 places an argument, Ligolski rethinks his suspicions
34)Kujirudo backs up his decision

From then on, we're all trying to figure out wtf Common was trying to pull off, and if he had a role restriction. Camo-man is determined to be town.

35)DiamondFalcon votes Frozenflame751
36)Oblivion comes out of nowhere
37)Ligolski votes Frozenflame751
38)karshikin unvotes Common, votes Frozenflame751
39)Ronike unvotes Common
40)I FOS Frozenflame751
41)Frozenflame751 posts
42)Ligolski unvotes Frozenflame751. Reasoning:

but the vote purpose was served... unvote: forzenflame751 though the fact you post when there is a sudden pressuer on you rises my suspicions but its not worth much as of this point...

43)Ligolski places activity timetable of Frozenflame751

Sorry for this very long post, but I thought it had to be done to start some movement.

I FOS Ligolski for the following reasons
1) FOS's don't mean anything
2)after Kujirudo FOS's Common, Ligolski immediately votes Common in #2 without giving him a chance to defend himself.
3)After I first defend Common, Ligolski then posts a possibility that I may be helping Common and that we're mafia, not giving a chance to Common at all
4)In #15, ligolski again repeats the notion that I am working with Commonyoshi, and then in #19, he places a "Huge FOS on me"
5)When others start supporting his claims, Ligolski again posts a large argument against Common and I
6)I then post. The suspicious thing for me is not how ligolski was attacking Common and me, this is fine, but how he immdiately retracts his arguments after I make my post that some start agreeing with and a vote from DiamondFalcon, as if he really had no argument at all, but was just going along with what everyone was saying. So it really seems as if he starts to move as soon as he is attacked, which is atypical of his behavior in past games.

Then in #33 and 34, he once again starts to rethink his decision and backs it up by restating my reasoning, not bringing up his reasoning, therefore placing any blame for his decision on me. Then after people start voting Frozenflame751, ligolski votes him as well, despite originally criticizing my efforts to place pressure on him and calling me a flip-flopper.

I find this very suspicious, but I won't vote just yet. I want ligolski to defend himself, as well as others to defend him. This is nothing but a pressure FOS.

 

[Lance87]

32)Lance87 refuses to unvote Common

Wait a second, yo. I didn’t refuse to do anything. There were still people with votes on him and I wanted to see what other people had to say about the weight suddenly being lifted from common, as stated here.

I'm not going to just unvote yet though, i'm hogging all the posting space and im going to let some other people speak.

33)After Lance87 places an argument, Ligolski rethinks his suspicions

There was no such argument whatsoever. I simply asked Ligolski to explain his unvote because he did it abruptly without much reasoning imo. Then after I asked ligolski to explain, kuji was quick to follow. Here’s what I said.

@Ligolski- Could you please elaborate on why you unvoted besides just "yup, i made a mistake"...it makes it look like you're just trying to take the heat off of you.

This is not an argument.

That is all for now.

 

[karshkin]

Well frozenflame is active again so unvote:Frozen because he is active but Fos:Frozen because he was active in other threads

 

[Kujirudo]

Wait a second, yo. I didn’t refuse to do anything. There were still people with votes on him and I wanted to see what other people had to say about the weight suddenly being lifted from common, as stated here.

In a certain way, that is refusing to unvote him. You still suspected him of being mafia (just like I did) while other people got the feeling that he was town. So you waited to see what others would do in stead of retracting your vote.
Is your vote still on common?

 

[DiamondFalcon]

Thanks for the compilation Agentli. Everything you said about me is right, and yeah I thought everyone was just ignoring my suggested plan because it wasn't good or something.
And why is Lance getting all defensive about the wording? That is almost refusal, and your opinion about Ligolski is an argument.

 

[Ronike]

I too was not refusing, as no one asked me to unvote him, I merely was not unvoting as I didn't (and still don't) believe the cant change his mind argument I only unvoted bc my vote was wasted being the only one on there. Good idea, good job, just slightly biased. If you do another synopsis, please try and use words with neutral connotations, such as didnt instead of refused

 

[ligolski]

33)After Lance87 places an argument, Ligolski rethinks his suspicions

I truthfully can't remember rethinking my suspciouns..could you quote me please?

ok i'll adress this post by its numbers that agentli provided...

I FOS Ligolski for the following reasons
1) FOS's don't mean anything
2)after Kujirudo FOS's Common, Ligolski immediately votes Common in #2 without giving him a chance to defend himself.
3)After I first defend Common, Ligolski then posts a possibility that I may be helping Common and that we're mafia, not giving a chance to Common at all
4)In #15, ligolski again repeats the notion that I am working with Commonyoshi, and then in #19, he places a "Huge FOS on me"
5)When others start supporting his claims, Ligolski again posts a large argument against Common and I
6)I then post. The suspicious thing for me is not how ligolski was attacking Common and me, this is fine, but how he immdiately retracts his arguments after I make my post that some start agreeing with and a vote from DiamondFalcon, as if he really had no argument at all, but was just going along with what everyone was saying. So it really seems as if he starts to move as soon as he is attacked, which is atypical of his behavior in past games.

Then in #33 and 34, he once again starts to rethink his decision and backs it up by restating my reasoning, not bringing up his reasoning, therefore placing any blame for his decision on me. Then after people start voting Frozenflame751, ligolski votes him as well, despite originally criticizing my efforts to place pressure on him and calling me a flip-flopper.

1- means nothing and a waste of space or your trying to be funny...ok

2-dude I explained this like 5 times already, he proposed the idea before and we shot it down and then he brought it up again...guess what its still a bad idea and besides it was one vote...and the use of "immediately" ONLY works when everyone is active at the same time really the fact that I voted after an FOS is nothing really...I would have voted him even if kuj hadn't fos'd him...I thought it was suspcious and since we did it before , at that time I didn't like the vibes I was getting...

3-so I'm suspicious for thinking you are suspicious? well thats odd, cuz like I have explained before that the fact that you were backing him up again on the same topic made me think you guys could be working together...almost all the pieces fit together until you brang up a few points later that changed my mind...

4-same as above

5-no I was responding to your posts...and solidifying what I thought was true...

6-ok...I'll admitt its a little fishy...but that time you provided ample argumentation that was possible enough to make me change my mind...I stated this before...


So overall, you just did that to make me repeat myself when I have explained this all before...and you are just trying to throw it all together and put a spin on it to make me look suspicious...What's even weirder is that before you seemed content bout me and then you atttack me...seems like you are just trying to stretch things to make me seem suspicious...

as for that last paragraph...I restated your opinions because they became possibilities to me as well...you should feel good that I agreed with you...i wasn't trying to do place blame to yourself...I would be equally guilty if your sugestion was untrue...because I agreed with it...
I don't recall saying that you were a flip-flopper...I said you were trying to change the subject while we were discussing something totally different...as for my vote on frozen...it was to increase the pressure as he still wasn't responding...I was trying to increase the quickness of his reply...

Then after people start voting Frozenflame751, ligolski votes him as well

a lie...ONE person voted before me...that's NOT "people", thats a "person"

 

[ligolski]

otherwise I think its great that you posted a recap, very useful for later, even though there were a few inaccuracies...

 

[Lance87]

In a certain way, that is refusing to unvote him. You still suspected him of being mafia (just like I did) while other people got the feeling that he was town. So you waited to see what others would do in stead of retracting your vote.
Is your vote still on common?

unvote: common

After I posted saying I was gonna be inactive and stuff I popped in a time or two before today but i forgot to unvote after the fact... I'm not so sure about them (agent and ligolski) being mafia anymore, i guess time will tell.

 

[camo-man]

me declared town? XD lol missed that.

 

[Jazzyswimmer]

wow discussion has really stopped

 

[camo-man]

Mod not enforcing teh rulez! RAWR!

 

[Deathreaver780]

yeah not much discussion at all really.

 

[Arkengate]

Well, to add to the debate, ligolskis name is now pink

But, seriously, there needs to be discussion. I WILL be reading this thread tomorrow and recapping and posting my thoughts. Expect it by..... 2ish, unless my v-day date wants to start earlier...

 

[Chill]

Official vote count
Uncle Meat: 1
Eoringlas

Commonyoshi: 1
kujirudo,

frozenflame751: 2
ligolski,karshkin

Lance87: 1
Arkengate
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Everyone breifly quites down. It seems like the're waiting for something.

The sun is nearly directly overhead now.

 

[ligolski]

BOOOOOOOOOOOO I hate the pink name for being a smash debator...but o well...

Hey chill I unvoted frozen a while ago...fyi

and speaking of frozen...where did he go...looks like he has slipped into the shadows once again...suspicious or not...idk

 

[DiamondFalcon]

I voted for frozenflame too.