Kingdom Hearts Mafia~Day 8~End Game!~Roles revealed!

[agentli]

Considering that Uncle Meat is banned, who is going to replace him/or already replaced him?

 

[ligolski]

Don't you see that Common seems to have no experience whatsoever defending him/herself? Look at it! I guess Common thinks that nameclaiming as Pooh will clear him/her of any guilt of all. It's not that I'm supporting Common because he/she is mafia.(If he/she is mafia, then I'm screwed) No, I'm supporting him/her because he/she is the only one who came up with a fuching plan! A course of action, rather than randomly bandwagoning on Common for doing extremely stupid things (like Eleftorious in Lost mafia, or whatever ZMan usually does).

Vote: Uncle Meat

For being extremely good at lurking

FoS: Frozenflame751
For being in reverse alphabetical order in lurking

Ok...
a) his plan was discussed before and deemed not good, we let him go because it was his first offense/noobiness or something... BUT he does it a SECOND time, for "getting reactions" which were gotten from the first time...that being ITS A BAD IDEA!!!! and scummy at that...his plan doesn't make any sense, since we already were able to guage reactions from before...hence the reason I am suspicious of common and therefore my vote on him...

b) sure he came up with a plan but it sucked (not to be rude) and we already deemed it so way before this...plans never really get far in mafia..there are usually too many "ifs" and most of the time its the mafia trying to suplant a plan, like roleclaiming, to undermine the town...which is what a nameclaim would do...

c) HUGE FOS: agentli for trying to change the subject completely during the middle of something huge...this is characteristic of a mafia member trying to bail out one of his partners by drawing attention away from him and on to someone else...though you are correct for those possible lurkers the timing is scummy...

All of the above compounded with the fact that agentli and common tried to do/organize without consent a name claim together before and the wierdness of how agenli has been doing his "lie" every "day" (being so fague that it makes me suspicious, since he has no fliped to the other version of day which could mean he forgot once or twice and now has to cover his tracks or soemthing)... warrants the idea that common and agenli are in fact mafia and deserved to be lynched...

o and arkengate, I don't think lance is that suspicios b/c of his little point out before that line where he mentioned that agenli and common had tried this again before, which I believe, IMO, that he was thinking along the same terms as I was but not saying full frontal as I just did...

 

[agentli]

To those of you who have not yet made up their minds on what is happening right now in KH Mafia. It seems Ligolski, Kuji, and Lance87 have made up their minds that Common and I are mafia. I hope none of you forget, I hope you will diligently witness and observe the neverending attacks that will continue for just trying to defend somebody's mistake. It's not as if we all don't make mistakes. I've made a few myself. But is it reason to be suspicious, maybe, but it's no reason to just go out and place a vote on him/her.

It seems to be the trend of the town right now, or should I say, the game, to vote off players and lynch them because they seem "suspicious". Well maybe suspicion is a good thing. if your definition of suspicion means conjuring up some kind of activity, trying to see who bandwagons, and looking at voting patterns, then Common is guilty. If your definition of suspicious is being proactive and attempting to be helpful, then Common is guilty.

I hope none of you forget that it was Ligolski, Lance87, and Kuji who are bandwagoning on Common for voting him/her away. Isn't it kind of obvious that they are controlling the town right now, that they, not us are passing around blame, that they are shifting attention, passing smoke, and constantly pointing fingers? Why won't they stop and look at the fact that a mafia member won't put out a stupid idea twice. If you ask me, they are the real mafia.

I hope none of you forget that when we're dead, that it was them who consistently pushed for our deaths. I hope none of you forget their names. Of course, those of you who have already fallen under some kind of influence will probably lie and shove this under the rug and go as if nothing happened "Gee that was rather unfortunate, OOPS I GUESS WE MADE A MISTAKE THERE!"

I am Pinnochio, Town Aligned. I can't attack for squat and I have to lie every day. But look carefully at the responses that I'll get to this post. They'll be slanderous, they'll take it apart piece by piece "deconstructing" the ideas of it, calling it "scummy".

The right thing to do at the point is going after inactives. They don't participate in the game, and if we start doing that, the lurkers will come out and then we can actually have a real game in which activity is controlled by the town. I hope you never forget that when, not if, I am lynched, I will be town, and you will go and lynch the mafia that pushed for my death.

 

[Eor]

I never even played KH, and even I concluded your role. What other Disney character has something to do with lying?

I doubt all three of them are mafia. That is almost impossible. People always make mistakes. I'd say it's likely that, if you truelly are town, one of them is mafia.

I admit, I have skimmed. But I'm going to go look through the thread again. The person that is likely mafia didn't start the bandwagon, but became it's face after it began. That is normal: Mafia want to stay in the shadows, but once someone makes a claim, they usually mess up and argue too strong for it. I know I've done it.

 

[Eor]

Well, there wasn't much for me to read. Only two pages, and I didn't need to fully read all of it.

Ligolski was the first person to vote, but only after someone FOSed Common. Then, he argued strongly for lynching him, and then for Agentli, even though Agentli was more of a mediator.

Unvote: Uncle Meat

Vote: Ligolski

Also, I unvoted Uncle Meat earlier. I don't know if Chill missed it, or if I am not allowed to change my vote. But, I never voted for him, and I started out for him, which means it's a night role. It could either be town, or mafia. We do not know enough about this game yet to decide.

 

[Deathreaver780]

Ok, well I have some catching up to do.
But for now, i wonder who is gonna win the awards............
Where are they gonna show who wins?

 

[Kitten]

Okay, sorry I haven't been active at all, but yeah, I've had a massive load of coursework, which is the same reason Uncle Meat hasn't been around. I talk to him on AIM sometimes, and I asked him about what he was going to do about mafia. Pretty much, he wasn't going to be on SWF at all this week, so he just asked to be banned for the week for whatever reason. The ban should be done in a couple of days, anyway.

I'll read up on this thread and start participating soon.

 

[Kujirudo]

I hope none of you forget that it was Ligolski, Lance87, and Kuji who are bandwagoning on Common for voting him/her away. Isn't it kind of obvious that they are controlling the town right now, that they, not us are passing around blame, that they are shifting attention, passing smoke, and constantly pointing fingers? Why won't they stop and look at the fact that a mafia member won't put out a stupid idea twice. If you ask me, they are the real mafia.

How about common knowing this? He expected us to believe him saying that a mafia wouldn't try a name claim twice in a row. So he could try it again, thinking that we would see this action just as a mistake and not as a mafia action.

I am Pinnochio, Town Aligned. I can't attack for squat and I have to lie every day. But look carefully at the responses that I'll get to this post. They'll be slanderous, they'll take it apart piece by piece "deconstructing" the ideas of it, calling it "scummy".

I already thought you were Pinnochio, but I think it's a bad thing that you name claimed. And where are your lies? Tell me, where the heck have your lies gone to?

The right thing to do at the point is going after inactives. They don't participate in the game, and if we start doing that, the lurkers will come out and then we can actually have a real game in which activity is controlled by the town. I hope you never forget that when, not if, I am lynched, I will be town, and you will go and lynch the mafia that pushed for my death.

Again, you try to change the subject. And because of your scummy looking actions, I'm surprised to see that you keep defending common.
So I ask you for the 3th time: Where the heck have your lies gone to, agentli?

 

[commonyoshi]

Carp. This really isn't worth the time. Do you think Agentli, a relatively good mafia player, would decide to defend someone like me? Assume I really was mafia and you (this "you" goes out to everyone) were mafia as well. Would you seriously defend me? Of course not. You'd let me die of my own prattery rather than put yourself in the spotlight.

As for those that still accuse me. Maybe I just made a very complicated plan. Dont underestimate me or call it a "bad plan". It's obviously still working even as I type this.

Lol common, you vote on me just because I wouldn't have explained side of nameclaiming? Look back at where I FoS'd you, that's exactly where I said it. It's not long, but I thought you were smart enough to remember what I said the first time you wanted a name claim. At that time, I made a longer explanaition about why nameclaiming is bad. And I supposed that you would know what I meant with a short post like this one.

No. I'm accusing you for holding back and bandwagoning. If you really did suspect me, you'd have voted against me right away. That FOS shifted the attantion on me without putting yourself in a vulnerable possition. That's the difference between you and ligolski. He actually voted against me without waiting.

Let's vote common and get this thing rolling, it's been day 2 for way too long.

Weren't you the one who said this game was so booooring? I'm the first one to do anything of interest today and you vote against me. That's one of the reasons I'm voting agaisnt you.

I dont know who to vote agaisnt right now... Lance or Kujirudo?

Jazzy: You're off the nuetral list. I cant tell if your logic is off or if you're mafia. Either way, I've got my eye on you. grrr

 

[commonyoshi]

Ok...
a) his plan was discussed before and deemed not good, we let him go because it was his first offense/noobiness or something... BUT he does it a SECOND time, for "getting reactions" which were gotten from the first time...that being ITS A BAD IDEA!!!! and scummy at that...his plan doesn't make any sense, since we already were able to guage reactions from before...hence the reason I am suspicious of common and therefore my vote on him...

Wrong. You clearly dont understand the situation at all, and have argued in my favor. The two scenerios are COMPLETELY different. Like you said, the first time was noobiness, and this time it wasn't. This means that the reactions from you guys obviously wouldn't be the same as the first time. Look again. The reaction this time is overwhelmingly different. Sheesh.

How can anyone believe I even thought this name claim thing would take off?

 

[Ronike]

Jazzy: You're off the nuetral list. I cant tell if your logic is off or if you're mafia. Either way, I've got my eye on you. grrr

Again with the changing topics? And he never did anything suspiscous! Seriously man, you aren't doing well at all at defending yourself. and agent, Im starting to doubt you as well. A nameclaim would be horrible for the town, and yet you still support him.

Fos agentli

 

[commonyoshi]

Again with the changing topics? And he never did anything suspiscous! Seriously man, you aren't doing well at all at defending yourself. and agent, Im starting to doubt you as well. A nameclaim would be horrible for the town, and yet you still support him.

Fos agentli

He accused me with rather bad logic. I have a right to defend myself. I wasn't changing topics.

What part of "a name claim was never my real intention" dont you understand?

 

[commonyoshi]

Here's why I'm suspecting Jazzy.

I am sorry about being inactive but i did mention in post a little while ago that i have been pretty busy lately.

Anyway, to me all of this starting with the name claim on your part seemed really sketchy and with all of the posts against you, it was just putting you in a deeper hole and you waited so long to try and dig yourself out.

I dont want to die, afterall.

To me it seemed like you waited a little to long for that.

I was trying to catch more people in my plan. I already explained this.

Eitehr he didn't ready my post, or he wants to lynch me for the heck of it.

 

[Ronike]

My bad, scratch what I said, I read jazzy=kitten. SO never mind

 

[camo-man]

Sorry fo me inactivity... Internet messed... got fixed.

common's plan sound leik tetaway from you-know-where.... not allowed to say me think.

 

[Jazzyswimmer]

I did go back and read some of your posts common, and i am sorry i did some stuff, but your defence still doesnt make sense to me. I am sticking with my vote.

 

[Jazzyswimmer]

did miss*** some stuff

 

[ligolski]

well, I am too tired and lazzy to address the new posts, I have a snow day tomorrow ^_^...so I will post in the morning and say a few things...so don't go adding up more posts on me now!

 

[DiamondFalcon]

Kujirudo, you seem very adamant at attacking Agentli even after he's claimed Pinnochio. He has said time and time before that he doesn't post a lie every time because technically his restriction says one lie per 'day', not 'post'. I believe him and it seems suspicious that you are jumping on him like that.
FOS: Kujirudo
I also think the people that are quick to jump on common are suspicious too, but it's still a toss because they could just be town against the name claim idea. I am against it as well, but I didn't jump on common because I figured he was just trying to get some action going. And from the looks of it, he succeeded.

 

[Arkengate]

Ill review things as well tomorrow, but currently i think that common is town... i think lance is mafia and i think kuj is not really that suspicious that i can see.. maybe a little, but nothing compared to lance's hurry to get to day 3

 

[Lance87]

I dont like the fact lance jumped the gun to want to vote him out for just SAYING we should do a name claim, and wanting to end the day really fast... Yea, its been day two for some time, but there isn't much going on, and i think he was just trying to get something happening! Wanting to hurry up and end the day so you can survive another one seems really suspicious...

Vote Lance87

I dont have any other FOS's at the moment.. But just a side note:

i am quite convinced that common isn't mafia. He wants a name claim, so he is probably pretty certain he won't end up getting lynched if a name claim happens, so his character is most likely town alligned.

Actually, as soon as he said it all i said was that it was a bad idea. after some others (1 or tw maybe...dont remember) voted then i voted. Read more plz. I wasnt the first to vote him i dont think so how am i jumping the gun?

 

[Lance87]

Ok ok ok...

I think it's good that there are a lot of mixed views btw, it's good for the game.

IMO, common never meant it to be a plan. I think he reacted from agentli's posts soon after and took it up as an easy defense.

Another thought- If common isn't mafia I think that agentlli might still be mafia. I notice that agentli is trying to condemn me, kuji, and ligolski if common turns up town but if he's mafia he would know that common was town and then flip the script on us if we lynched an innocent.

Noone else besides the 5 that have votes on common find it suspicious that common and agentli are teaming up again?

Another thought thats similar but i couldnt word it all together**

Maybe agent is mafia and is protecting common to make himself look innocent if common were town when he died...

that's all for tonight...discuss

 

[Arkengate]

See, i never said u were the first, you just jumped the gun and wanted (i feel) everyone else to join in and vote and make the day end, which is pretty suspicious imo

 

[Kujirudo]

Kujirudo, you seem very adamant at attacking Agentli even after he's claimed Pinnochio. He has said time and time before that he doesn't post a lie every time because technically his restriction says one lie per 'day', not 'post'. I believe him and it seems suspicious that you are jumping on him like that.
FOS: Kujirudo
I also think the people that are quick to jump on common are suspicious too, but it's still a toss because they could just be town against the name claim idea. I am against it as well, but I didn't jump on common because I figured he was just trying to get some action going. And from the looks of it, he succeeded.

First of all, I didn't really know what it was with his role restriction. First he said that it had to be once a day in-game, but then he switched to once a day in real life. I know it doesn't have to be in every post, but it has been freaking 3 real life days(or more) since he posted his last lie. So what is it now, once a day in-game or once a day in real?

About the second part of your post: Didn't you notice yet why we suspected him immediately? He came up with the idea before and we all agreed that he shouldn't do so! And now, he does the same thing again but this time you guys all believe him that it was a plan to see who is the bad guy and who isn't.

And yes, I also noticed that what Lance said: It seems like agentli and common really are teaming up. If agentli and common really are who they said they are, I agree with you that it could be a plan to lure the mafia. But I don't know it anymore. This seems all so confusing to me. I do suspect common and I do suspect agentli, but they both claimed to be townies which is very possible (Pooh = single minded and Pinnochio lies)... I don't know for now, but I think I'll retract my vote. I need to backtrack some stuff when I come back home, then I'll decide what to do with my vote.

 

[ligolski]

To those of you who have not yet made up their minds on what is happening right now in KH Mafia. It seems Ligolski, Kuji, and Lance87 have made up their minds that Common and I are mafia. I hope none of you forget, I hope you will diligently witness and observe the neverending attacks that will continue for just trying to defend somebody's mistake. It's not as if we all don't make mistakes. I've made a few myself. But is it reason to be suspicious, maybe, but it's no reason to just go out and place a vote on him/her.

um...yes...thats how mafia works IMO...the town votes who it sees as suspicious for whatever reasons...meaningless paragraph...

It seems to be the trend of the town right now, or should I say, the game, to vote off players and lynch them because they seem "suspicious". Well maybe suspicion is a good thing. if your definition of suspicion means conjuring up some kind of activity, trying to see who bandwagons, and looking at voting patterns, then Common is guilty. If your definition of suspicious is being proactive and attempting to be helpful, then Common is guilty.

well your first sentance is how mafia works, thats how it is done, we vote off the most suspicious players because we think they are mafia and hopefully they are...your next statements are poor attempts to try and make us feel bad for possibly lynching common who we believe to be mafia...oh and common hasn't done squat besides bringing up discussion about himself...

I hope none of you forget that it was Ligolski, Lance87, and Kuji who are bandwagoning on Common for voting him/her away. Isn't it kind of obvious that they are controlling the town right now, that they, not us are passing around blame, that they are shifting attention, passing smoke, and constantly pointing fingers? Why won't they stop and look at the fact that a mafia member won't put out a stupid idea twice. If you ask me, they are the real mafia.

First of all I did not bandwagon, I placed the first vote adn those guys have backed up their vote too imo...controlling th e town eh? well you tried to do that too when you and common tried to organize the name claim before...and on top of that you accuse us of passing around blame...BS...we have been on on top of only you and common for this day...YOU on the other hand have tried to shift attention away from you and common towards the inactives... <cough>HYPOCRIT! and maybe your are counting on that idea of not putting out a "stupid" idea twice to defend your actions...not working for me obviously...

I hope none of you forget that when we're dead, that it was them who consistently pushed for our deaths. I hope none of you forget their names. Of course, those of you who have already fallen under some kind of influence will probably lie and shove this under the rug and go as if nothing happened "Gee that was rather unfortunate, OOPS I GUESS WE MADE A MISTAKE THERE!"

wow, I just registered the fact that even though NOT A SINGLE PERSON has voted for you yet, you seem very adament about defending yourself and common...over reaction maybe? idk...as for the above quote...its meaningless...just more hope attempts on making people think twice...its like taking a test...don't change your answer after you already put down one...b/c your first instinct is ussually right...and well my instinct is telling me these two are mafia...sure I could be mistaken and it happens (poor skylink lol) but this is how the game s played...when things don't add up we lynch those who are the most suspicious...

I am Pinnochio, Town Aligned. I can't attack for squat and I have to lie every day. But look carefully at the responses that I'll get to this post. They'll be slanderous, they'll take it apart piece by piece "deconstructing" the ideas of it, calling it "scummy".

Hey, guess what? Thats how the game is played pal...we, the town, deconstruct posts because it is our job and thats how we will win the game...so I'll continue to decontruct your post...

The right thing to do at the point is going after inactives. They don't participate in the game, and if we start doing that, the lurkers will come out and then we can actually have a real game in which activity is controlled by the town. I hope you never forget that when, not if, I am lynched, I will be town, and you will go and lynch the mafia that pushed for my death.

Shifting the attention again eh? and IF you are actually town and we happen to lynch you, doesn't mean we are mafia...as you are so adament about saying...people can make mistakes...you said it yourself...otherwise this is an attempt at revengefor those who caught him and he is trying to make us second guess ourselves but remember what I said before...

Overall that post was pointless and only really tried to make us second guess ourselves into unvoting common and make us believe they aren;t the real suspicous ones...

on to the other pposts then...

Ligolski was the first person to vote, but only after someone FOSed Common. Then, he argued strongly for lynching him, and then for Agentli, even though Agentli was more of a mediator.

FOS's are almost pointless unless used right like I did...mine showed that agentli was next on the list since I believe they are both mafia...and yes I am argueing strongly for the lynch...why?...because some of you don't see how scummy these guys really are...all I am trying to do is to presuade you guys on to what I think is the right thing to do...simple as that...plus I voted because this is a second offense and an FOS wasn't even close to enough pressure that I wanted to give...and then I developed my thoughts and bleive that he is mafia...so I don't consider me being a "bandwagoner" PLUS it just happens to be that I went on after that post and then decided to vote...I would have jumped on him even if kuj had not FOS'd him...

Wrong. You clearly dont understand the situation at all, and have argued in my favor. The two scenerios are COMPLETELY different. Like you said, the first time was noobiness, and this time it wasn't. This means that the reactions from you guys obviously wouldn't be the same as the first time. Look again. The reaction this time is overwhelmingly different. Sheesh.

I see what your saying and your right, the reactions are different by a little but as you said this isn't "noobiness" like you claim to say was the reason for the first time...which mean it is planned and WHAT town member would plan to have a name claim in a game like this... not me at least...thats why your suspicous...plus I still am a little ify about the first name claim idea...

I was trying to catch more people in my plan. I already explained this.

Eitehr he didn't ready my post, or he wants to lynch me for the heck of it.

Or this is her first mafia game and is easily persuaded? idk...just throwing that one out there

Ill review things as well tomorrow, but currently i think that common is town... i think lance is mafia and i think kuj is not really that suspicious that i can see.. maybe a little, but nothing compared to lance's hurry to get to day 3

I really don't see why you seem soooo sure that lance is town...explain a little more besides the whole " lets get this over with" b/c imo thats a weak argument for a vote/lynch

IMO, common never meant it to be a plan. I think he reacted from agentli's posts soon after and took it up as an easy defense.

I agree...

Maybe agent is mafia and is protecting common to make himself look innocent if common were town when he died...

always a possibility...

First of all, I didn't really know what it was with his role restriction. First he said that it had to be once a day in-game, but then he switched to once a day in real life. I know it doesn't have to be in every post, but it has been freaking 3 real life days(or more) since he posted his last lie. So what is it now, once a day in-game or once a day in real?

About the second part of your post: Didn't you notice yet why we suspected him immediately? He came up with the idea before and we all agreed that he shouldn't do so! And now, he does the same thing again but this time you guys all believe him that it was a plan to see who is the bad guy and who isn't.

thats another reason I don't believe entrirely agentli's claim...his lie story has changed on when he has to do it...it seems to me it is possible that he said that to be very ambigous (hope i spelled that right hehe) and so if he made a mistake he could fall back on something...and teh second paragraph I: QFT

wow that was a lot...

 

[agentli]

But a name claim is exactly what clues like "simple minded" will devlop into. It IS a clue to my character. The only thing that's preventing me from telling you guys right now who I am is the possibility that our names may not have anything to our roles.

I'm sorry if that didn't make sense because I'm just musing to myself. I'm deciding what action we should take. If our characters do have something to do with our roles then I think a name claim is something that should be considered. Chill just gave you guys a hint as to who I am. If someone claims they are Chip and Dale, but Chill gives a hint that he was a large person then we'd know he was a liar.

Chill giving us these clues makes me believe that our characters are important and not just name holderz. We can decide on came claims after no more discussion can be made today.

From Day 1

And yes, I also noticed that what Lance said: It seems like agentli and common really are teaming up. If agentli and common really are who they said they are, I agree with you that it could be a plan to lure the mafia. But I don't know it anymore. This seems all so confusing to me. I do suspect common and I do suspect agentli, but they both claimed to be townies which is very possible (Pooh = single minded and Pinnochio lies).

Ok, here's what I think about this. If Pooh is singleminded, there's no way he can change his decision after going through with it. So therefore, once he proposes the nameclaim idea, he can't backtrack from it, correct? In that case, it isn't scummy at all.

After all, it you take a closer look, Common's ideas have been incredibly stupid up to this point. He almost got lynched day 1 for it (and if you look back, Lance87 and ligolski were attacking him adamantly day 1) But right now I think it is the sheer stupidity of his role that is preventing him from changing his position. "Scummy" you say, I say "Stupid".

First of all, I didn't really know what it was with his role restriction. First he said that it had to be once a day in-game, but then he switched to once a day in real life. I know it doesn't have to be in every post, but it has been freaking 3 real life days(or more) since he posted his last lie. So what is it now, once a day in-game or once a day in real?

I believe it is once per in-game, but it was vague. Usually the role restrictions are once per in-game.

Again with the changing topics? And he never did anything suspiscous! Seriously man, you aren't doing well at all at defending yourself. and agent, Im starting to doubt you as well. A nameclaim would be horrible for the town, and yet you still support him.

I support him, not his idea. I think his idea is the most stupid thing in the world. I think he is the most stupid player in the world. I think he is town.

The reason I am "changing the subject" is that I am bringing up ideas that I feel will be a better alternative to lynching commonyoshi. That is lynching inactives taht contribute nothing to the game. Activity keeps the town strong, and to kill off an active player like common is shooting ourselves in the foot.

So once I go out of my way to help defend another, who I suspect to be, townie, and then I am thrown into the mix as a mafia member. Please, it is not the job of the town to be spreading suspicion. It is not the job of the town to be going around and being impulsive. Let's slow down a little and look back at what actually caused such a great ruckus to place 5 lynch votes on Commonyoshi.

um...yes...thats how mafia works IMO...the town votes who it sees as suspicious for whatever reasons...meaningless paragraph...

No, the town doesn't impulsively automatically place votes on someone who did something completely stupid twice. They go back and ask WHY someone might have done that. The answer might not always be because they're mafia.

To tell you the truth, the rest of ligolski's post is basically attacking mine and any other that might have offended his idea of Common and I being UNDOUBTABLY mafia, as if there was no other possibility. He leaves the probably's in there just as a possible way out. Well, ligolski, if you really want to know why I am going through all this hassle, why don't you look a bit closer at what's been happening. Common has repeatedly been attacked with few defenders for him/her. Chill, the mod, has said that we should perhaps be listening to him/her. And I am giving Common a chance before lynching. It seems like the fair and reasonable thing to do.

 

[Arkengate]

No, i said i think lance is mafiaNot Town. And i still think he is. ill post more about it tonight, hopefully

 

[DiamondFalcon]

I was about to say that we should go after Ligolski if common turned out to be town, but I really don't see how Pooh and Pinnochio would be mafia when you've got real characters like Maleficent, Ansem, Hades, Jafar, etc.
Vote: Ligolski

 

[ligolski]

Chill, the mod, has said that we should perhaps be listening to him/her. And I am giving Common a chance before lynching. It seems like the fair and reasonable thing to do.

Ok, you have convinced me for now that common is just being stupid and not mafia...but when did Chill say we should listen to him? I don't recall that...

Ok, here's what I think about this. If Pooh is singleminded, there's no way he can change his decision after going through with it. So therefore, once he proposes the nameclaim idea, he can't backtrack from it, correct? In that case, it isn't scummy at all.

I never thought of it that way good catch...

No, the town doesn't impulsively automatically place votes on someone who did something completely stupid twice. They go back and ask WHY someone might have done that. The answer might not always be because they're mafia.

well I said I was sure he was mafia based on the point of view that he wasn't being stupid...he did say it was his "plan" and so I was thinking along those lines...and u put words into my mouth...I never said go around and impulsively put on the votes...never...

To tell you the truth, the rest of ligolski's post is basically attacking mine and any other that might have offended his idea of Common and I being UNDOUBTABLY mafia, as if there was no other possibility

quote me where I said unboubtably and I'll eat my shorts...I left room open I think so that someone could switch my thoughts and you did by pointing out a few good points...

No, i said i think lance is mafiaNot Town. And i still think he is. ill post more about it tonight, hopefully

LOL...i meant mafia...typo

I was about to say that we should go after Ligolski if common turned out to be town, but I really don't see how Pooh and Pinnochio would be mafia when you've got real characters like Maleficent, Ansem, Hades, Jafar, etc.
Vote: Ligolski

I don't see why you are voting me but I ignored the name claim of those two before thinking that it was part of their wanting a name claim...but as I said before I stand corrected and I now think that what agentli brought up linking simple minded into a role situation is a good one...

Well, we have nothing else as far as I can remember to discuss except maybe some bandwagonning issues...maybe it is time to look at the inactives...

I doubt all three of them are mafia. That is almost impossible. People always make mistakes

yea...thats me

unvote: commonyoshi

and agentli why is your vote still on UM when he can't post?

 

[agentli]

Because he is inactive, so we should kick him out of the game. HE'S BANNED!!!

 

[Kitten]

Agentli, he isn't BANNED!!!!!, really. He's tempabanned, and he'll be posting again by tomorrow or Wednesday. I already told you this. You tried to get him lynched for lurking, last time you addressed his banning, too. What gives? Why the change in heart?

 

[agentli]

Oh sorry...didn't see that

 

[agentli]

Unvote : Uncle Meat
For me being ignorant

 

[Arkengate]

Because he is inactive, so we should kick him out of the game. HE'S BANNED!!!

Speaking of that, we shouldnt have to vote for him, he should be removed, dont u agree?

 

[Kujirudo]

Ok, here's what I think about this. If Pooh is singleminded, there's no way he can change his decision after going through with it. So therefore, once he proposes the nameclaim idea, he can't backtrack from it, correct? In that case, it isn't scummy at all.

Wow, massive catch. Yes, that could explain why common said that it was just to see how we reacted. Nice thinking!

I believe it is once per in-game, but it was vague. Usually the role restrictions are once per in-game.

Mmm, not a yes nor a no but at least we get somewhere.

I support him, not his idea. I think his idea is the most stupid thing in the world. I think he is the most stupid player in the world. I think he is town.

So do I now.
Unvote: Commonyoshi
Maybe that's also a reason why common can't protect himself so good? Because he is single minded?

but when did Chill say we should listen to him? I don't recall that...

Remember Chill saying that common is single minded? That probally meant that he wanted us to know that, even though we didn't know he was Pooh, he can only think one way and can't change his mind so quickly.

 

[Ronike]

WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP SAYING SINGLEMIDED! IT WAS SIMPLEMINDED!!!

This doesn't sit well with everyone. A few of you have become suspicous of commonyoshi and consider his ideas simple-minded.

I still dont buy that whole simple minded thing, it seems too precise to be true. Its more likely if that is the case that common cant switch votes.
Evidence:
Day 1: Starts No lynch early, never unvotes --> Pro my theory
Goes from no lynch idea, to name claim, to no lynch again --->con agent's idea

 

[Ronike]

Oh and Id just like to point out that it was agent that put out that little misinformation about single mindedness.

 

[DiamondFalcon]

Unvote: Ligolski, for seeing my point.

 

[ligolski]

hey ronike could you explain that a little more...that made no sense

 

[Kujirudo]

hey ronike could you explain that a little more...that made no sense

I was thinking the same...