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Kingdom Hearts Mafia~Day 8~End Game!~Roles revealed!

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ligolski

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vote: commonyoshi
we have been through this before and I believe that because there are so many characters in kingdom hearts that the mafia could easily claim someone and not get caught...

this ontop of other instances of commonyoshi being suspicious I believe this a good coarse of action...

I still hope to go back and reread this weekend...fingers crossed for time!!
 

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Boredom>losing

I am willing to take a chance.
Well You are an idiot then, or you are just mafia. Seriously dude, why are you so adamant about a name claim if you are town? I wont vote you til you defend (or ignore it), but I am really suspiscious of you right now.

SUMFOS: Common (super uber mega FOS)
 

Ronike

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Better than lynching someone bc of a stupid vote. I allow people to defend themselves before I vote them.
 

ligolski

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that only occurrs when people bandwaggon and if they do that they are suspicous
 

commonyoshi

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Anyway, no way people, I'm not gonna agree with a name claim. That's too easy for the mafia to kill powerfull town roles. And the mafia (or at least, the smart mafiosis) will lie about their role.
[sarcasm]Oh gee... If only the town power roles would be that smart.[/sarcasm]

I'm sure the situation above is what's going to happen. However, there is a thin possibility of some Mafia getting caught. It gives us something to do, at least.
 

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I know name claim is a bad idea, but common's right that we do need to do something. The mafia are the ones that are lying around taking advantage of the fact that no discussion is going on.
 

ligolski

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thats true but a name claim is still the wrong thisng to do as for the already said reasons...making common suspicous again...
 
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Common wants a name claim. He has also already stated early on that he is Pooh, meaning he wouldnt have anything to loose with a name claim.

FOS: Commonyoshi
 

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I'm sure the situation above is what's going to happen. However, there is a thin possibility of some Mafia getting caught. It gives us something to do, at least.
Useless argument. You want a name claim just because you want to do something? [sarcasm]That's a good idea, why didn't I come up with that?[/sarcasm] Seriously, I rather have a boring mafia game than a quick mafia game with people getting lynched because of stupid mistakes (like a name claim in a game that would give power roles away). And a thin possibility is not enough for me. I'm sure that the mafia guys made up their mind now about claiming their real role.

Vote: commonyoshi
 

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I don't think voting commonyoshi at this point is the correct thing to do. He is only wanting to get things going. It's not as if he is maliciously saying..."Har Har let's kill all the townies by doing a name claim..Har Har...my evil plan is foiled NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

What common is doing is simply trying to get something going. Let's not accuse him of wrongdoing when he is simply trying to put forth an idea, however flawed it may be. Look at ourselves, not doing anything of worth other than accusing common of something we should be doing ourselves, putting ideas in front for discussion. Fine! Let's shoot down the idea for being incredibly stupid! But indite him for saying it? No. To do so would be extremely hypocritical.

You want to know what true mafia members would do? They would go and cast suspicion on common for even putting out an idea. And they would want this lull in activity. This way everyone will vote no-lynch again and we'd have another death in night 2.
 

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I don't think voting commonyoshi at this point is the correct thing to do. He is only wanting to get things going. It's not as if he is maliciously saying..."Har Har let's kill all the townies by doing a name claim..Har Har...my evil plan is foiled NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

What common is doing is simply trying to get something going. Let's not accuse him of wrongdoing when he is simply trying to put forth an idea, however flawed it may be. Look at ourselves, not doing anything of worth other than accusing common of something we should be doing ourselves, putting ideas in front for discussion. Fine! Let's shoot down the idea for being incredibly stupid! But indite him for saying it? No. To do so would be extremely hypocritical.

You want to know what true mafia members would do? They would go and cast suspicion on common for even putting out an idea. And they would want this lull in activity. This way everyone will vote no-lynch again and we'd have another death in night 2.
First of all, what idiot would go "har har..." and say that...so that doesn't even make sense really, b/c no mafia player or town player would even say that...

Oh, but this is the SECOND time he has put forth the same idea, which we already declared bad and stupid

Let's shoot down the idea for being incredibly stupid! But indite him for saying it? No.
As far as I am concerned thats how we catch mafia...we catch the ones who put forth ideas that are inherently bad for the town and we jump on them and kill them...otherwise mafia wouldn't get anywhere...
To do so would be extremely hypocritical.
How the heck is that hypocritical...please explain...

and last, if the mafia are casting suspicoun on common, then why would they go to a no lynch...if they are successful then a no lynch would be...well...not the right thing to do...just pointing that out...
or it could be the town pointing out a player who is acting like scum for proposing an idea that was declared stupid not once BUT TWICE...

maybe agentli is mafia because he has been defending common a lot and common does look very scummy to me...
 

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I apologize to those who didn't see the satire behind my post for putting in my exaggeration of a statement of what a mafia player would say. I thought people would get that I was trying to be funny and lighten the mood a little, but I guess it was taken literally.

In my mind, common is just putting forth an opinion, and through this, he could possibly get some activity going. Do you really think that common would be foolish enough not to see that if he/she put out the plan, that he/she would be pounced on by opportunists in the game trying to get someone lynched the second they propose a plan? It is agreed, that the plan sucks, but let's try to be understanding that common is just trying to get something going, anything. After all, I don't see any opposing plans out there from you, ligolski. Before pointing fingers, let's put out another plan, one that's better in substance, rather than just shooting down those of others.

That is the way it is hypocritical, that if we were to discourage people from setting forth plans, this would harm the town more than help it. Discouraging plans forces us into another no-lynch situation by killing activity from the thread. Obviously this aids the mafia more than the town.

A mafia, not the mafia, wouldn't be casting suspicion on common necessarily, but they are doing it so people are afraid of submitting plans to public scrutiny, limiting activity.

I hope that answers all your questions for the moment, ligolski. I'm not necessarily defending just Common, but the idea of fostering the growth of ideas and sharing plans so we can actually get this game going. After all, we can't be depending on having an even every day...
 

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I think we would be better served rooting out the lurkers, such as Frozenflame751, who is active in the other threads, but seemingly has nothing to add right now. Either that or attack some of the inactives who are coasting along in the game.
 

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Does everyone remember that it was common and agentli going after a name claim fairly early?

I forgot all about it. Common claimed and the Agentli started a list and tried to urge people to claim. My bet is that if common is scum then so is agentli.

Let's vote common and get this thing rolling, it's been day 2 for way too long.
 

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I agree with Lance vote:common

Ronike ansem in kingdomhearts 1 is a heartless
in 2 we meet the real ansem and he is on the goodside and xenohort or wat every is a nobody
sorry if some of you don't understand HUGE fan of KH
 

Ronike

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Ansem (real)
Roxas
Possibly riku

And ansem(fake) is xehanort's heartless
 

Ronike

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Allright, you still arent defending yourself at all, in fact you arent even really saying that you realize you are wrong, which you are, so:
vote:common
 

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Official vote count

Uncle Meat: 1
Eoringlas

Commonyoshi: 5
ligolski, kujirudo, lance87, karshkin, Ronike

With 17 able to vote it takes 9 to lynch.
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Maybe you should trust me and do the stinking name claim. I have the feeling you're going to do it in day 3 anyway.;)

You guys dont give me enough credit for my plans. Do you honestly think I would really try a name claim TWICE if I was a mafia? TWICE! The first time was out of boredom, yes, but this time I actually have a plan. Part of being mafia is NOT drawing attention to yourself, in case you've all forgotten.

If I die, suspect kujirudo and lance87.

Ronike and Ligolski, I have nothing against them even though they've voted against me. Jazzy and Karshkin are too inactive and have made one line posts so there's not much to annalyze. Curse all you innactives and lurkers.

I demand one last statement if you guys do decide to lynch me.
 

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Jazzy and Karshkin are too inactive and have made one line posts so there's not much to annalyze. Curse all you innactives and lurkers.
Although that is a good reason to go after them. They showed up just to vote on you.
I don't know why you think the name claim is such a good idea though. There are so many characters in Kingdom Hearts that the mafia are bound to find an alias and power roles are put at risk. You better explain yourself or I may begin to doubt your affiliations as well.
 

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I guess it's about time I settled this. I never wanted to do a name claim. Your arguments convinced me after the first time. I wanted to see your reactions. That was my plan all along.

I was looking for stuff like bandwagoning, quick accusations, and useless FOS. (you know which ones are useless and which ones aren't) People who cared more about lynching me versus arguing against name claiming was also a thing I was looking out for.

Ronike gave me enough time to explain myself, AGAIN for the second time, and Ligolski was kind enough to explain the negative side of the name claim the first time I did this without jumping to conclusions.

FOS: kujirudo and lance87

And this FOS isn't a useless one.
 

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I was hoping to catch more people, but you guys voted WAY too quickly. My plan never got off the ground because there wasn't enough time. I didn't want to die, after all.
 

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ok, so common are you saying that kuj and lance are suspicous for bandwaggonning on you without much thought, cuz if thats what you are getting at then I believe that I agree...

BUT I do agree with lance who brang up that both of you (common and agentli) did start the first name claim and now it is especially suspicious that they seem to be working together again, even though denied by agentli...

and now that I think of it, I think I can see some sort of possible alterior motive for a name claim...maybe the mafia have to kill/capture the princesses like they did in KH1...doing this would truly lead them out into the open if this is a mafia goal...I have no clue but I think it it is definetly plausable, so I will leave my vote for now...
 

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oh and just checked wiki and there are a ton of characters just listed in there so that proves why a name claim wouldn't be good...so many possibilities...
 
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I am sorry about being inactive but i did mention in post a little while ago that i have been pretty busy lately.

Anyway, to me all of this starting with the name claim on your part seemed really sketchy and with all of the posts against you, it was just putting you in a deeper hole and you waited so long to try and dig yourself out.

I didn't want to die said:
To me it seemed like you waited a little to long for that.

vote: Commonyoshi
 
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I am sorry about being inactive but i did mention in post a little while ago that i have been pretty busy lately.

Anyway, to me all of this starting with the name claim on your part seemed really sketchy and with all of the posts against you, it was just putting you in a deeper hole and you waited so long to try and dig yourself out.

I didn't want to die, after all.
To me it seemed like you waited a little to long for that.

vote: Commonyoshi

srry about that
 

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Lol common, you vote on me just because I wouldn't have explained side of nameclaiming? Look back at where I FoS'd you, that's exactly where I said it. It's not long, but I thought you were smart enough to remember what I said the first time you wanted a name claim. At that time, I made a longer explanaition about why nameclaiming is bad. And I supposed that you would know what I meant with a short post like this one.
 

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**** it, pressed the wrong button.

My plan never got off the ground because there wasn't enough time.
I guess it's about time I settled this. I never wanted to do a name claim. Your arguments convinced me after the first time. I wanted to see your reactions. That was my plan all along.
I see, you mean that you came up with the idea of a name claim to see how we would react. And people that jumped to conclusions too soon are then suspicious for you. Well, that's not a bad plan at all but I already told you: I first FoS'd you, then you just went on about wanting the name claim which was enough information for me to say that you are mafia.

Man, I wanted to be able to double vote. Cause I still don't see agentli posting his lie. I'm starting to believe that he lied to us after all and that he isn't who I think he is...
 

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I posted a lie on my first post on day 2. But if I must I'll post another one. For the record, I think Common's plan is completely stupid. But I don't think radical measures should be taken for his/her plan being stupid.

Don't you see that Common seems to have no experience whatsoever defending him/herself? Look at it! I guess Common thinks that nameclaiming as Pooh will clear him/her of any guilt of all. It's not that I'm supporting Common because he/she is mafia.(If he/she is mafia, then I'm screwed) No, I'm supporting him/her because he/she is the only one who came up with a fuching plan! A course of action, rather than randomly bandwagoning on Common for doing extremely stupid things (like Eleftorious in Lost mafia, or whatever ZMan usually does).

Vote: Uncle Meat

For being extremely good at lurking

FoS: Frozenflame751
For being in reverse alphabetical order in lurking
 

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Let's vote common and get this thing rolling, it's been day 2 for way too long.
I dont like the fact lance jumped the gun to want to vote him out for just SAYING we should do a name claim, and wanting to end the day really fast... Yea, its been day two for some time, but there isn't much going on, and i think he was just trying to get something happening! Wanting to hurry up and end the day so you can survive another one seems really suspicious...

Vote Lance87

I dont have any other FOS's at the moment.. But just a side note:

i am quite convinced that common isn't mafia. He wants a name claim, so he is probably pretty certain he won't end up getting lynched if a name claim happens, so his character is most likely town alligned.
 

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Well common you seem to like the idea of name claim. But this being part of a "plan" just doesn't seem logical . We have already had a huge deabate on it and come to a agreement that it would be a bad. and to get reactions we already did this so could you please explain your plan further

Maybe you should trust me and do the stinking name claim. I have the feeling you're going to do it in day 3 anyway.
In this you seem to push this name claim to much. Also you said you're and not we is this just a mistake?

I guess it's about time I settled this. I never wanted to do a name claim. Your arguments convinced me after the first time. I wanted to see your reactions. That was my plan all along.
But in this you say it was yor plan. And that you wanted to look for bandwaggoning and stuff like that you knew this was goin to happen because we already talk about this
 
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