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Social King K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: This...Is Our Finest Hour!

InASnowBoundLand

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I think a big reason why the team wouldn't use Paon is that Mr. Sakurai has gone on record saying he doesn't like how non-threatening Bowser's new design is, that's why his models look much scarier in Smash. Same probably rings true for K. Rool.
Really, he said that? TBH I don't think Rare K. Rool is more threatening. I think he's zanier looking. Only time I could say K. Rool was "scary" was DK64's model which overdid the eye.

I think they went with Rare K. Rool because it's the fan favorite deisgn and it's from his best known games. Paon K. Rool is from games much less people have played.
 

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Never thought we would see some crotch analysis in the K. Rool thread in all places lol.

There's no doubt in my mind that they will go with the Rare K. Rool design since that is what long time fans remember the most and it's iconic.
 

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Hey guys, mind if i join? Since wolf and Ridley were revealed, k rool is my most wanted newcomer.
 

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Really, he said that?
I misremembered the quote slightly, here it is:






TBH I don't think Rare K. Rool is more threatening. I think he's zanier looking. Only time I could say K. Rool was "scary" was DK64's model which overdid the eye.

I think they went with Rare K. Rool because it's the fan favorite deisgn and it's from his best known games. Paon K. Rool is from games much less people have played.
I could see someone thinking his Rare design is scarier.

His bloodshot eye is way more overdone in his Rare design, way more detail in the scales.




I could see Sakurai thinking his Rare design is "cuter". It's a lot less detailed by comparison.
 

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I misremembered the quote slightly, here it is:







I could see someone thinking his Rare design is scarier.

His bloodshot eye is way more overdone in his Rare design, way more detail in the scales.




I could see Sakurai thinking his Rare design is "cuter". It's a lot less detailed by comparison.
He might use a combination because the legs of the Paon design have more ...mobility to them.
 

InASnowBoundLand

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I think Rare K. Rool is cuter because of the eyes. The hugeness negates the redness of his big eye. It looks super cartoony to me. Paon K. Rool looks cartoony too, but in a "has been" sort of way. Paon K. Rool looks naked, sucked out of energy, and lost in the world.
 

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Paon K. Rool took a lot away from what made him awesome in so many ways.

Rare all the way: calculating, cruel, unstable, etc. In DK King of Swing I hate to say it, but Rool was much more generic.
 

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How bloodshot the eyes are in the Paon one are also much more subtle.
 

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I'm going to try to edit the Paon design to look more like the RARE one

But I make no promises.

See if it can be improved with some subtle changes without changing the entire thing
 

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I feel like the Paon design just isn't very flattering in that render. It can definitely still look cool and threatening with the right touches:



I'd be 100% okay with something like this, honestly, but I see no reason for them to not use the Rare design due to the costume.

This is also a pretty decent touchup of the Smashified art:

 

InASnowBoundLand

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Yeah, we don't have to be hating other characters.

Personally I don't like Corrin and I thought it was a bad choice to end DLC that way. But nothing about K. Rool has anything to do with Corrin. I mean, do you think Ridley should have gotten his revenge on Corrin??? Sounds silly.










I feel like the Paon design just isn't very flattering in that render. It can definitely still look cool and threatening with the right touches:



I'd be 100% okay with something like this, honestly, but I see no reason for them to not use the Rare design due to the costume.

This is also a pretty decent touchup of the Smashified art:

It does look better with the Smashified interpretation. The scales help a lot. But I think I am still not happy with it due to the loss of the "cute" factor. I think there is something stupid, goofy, zany and cute about Rare's K. Rool. He's not just "threatening". He's a huge googlyeyed goofball whose name is a crappy pun. The loss of the googly eyes on Paon K. Rool, whichever interpretation it is, makes him more "realistic" but also less "outrageous" and "over the top".
 
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I feel like the Paon design just isn't very flattering in that render. It can definitely still look cool and threatening with the right touches:



I'd be 100% okay with something like this, honestly, but I see no reason for them to not use the Rare design due to the costume.

This is also a pretty decent touchup of the Smashified art:

Although I could edit colors better than whoever did it, they pretty much did what I was going to do.

I also don't know why they shrunk the stomach. That seems like a pointless change
 

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Only things I'd really want from a K. Rool trailer:

-Him beating up the Mii Costume
-Teaming up with Ridley, or striking a pose, or anything
-Ending on a group shot of K. Rool taunting DK, Diddy, and (hopefully) Dixie to "bring it on"
-Having him play dead as a stinger
 

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I just want to know what K. Rools splash screen could say, here's some idea's I had.

"King K. Rool sails past the competition!"

"King K. Rool is finally here for you!"

"King K. Rool takes aim"

"King K. Rool :Blast from the past"

"King K. Rool has his finest hour"
 

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I just want to know what K. Rools splash screen could say, here's some idea's I had.

"King K. Rool sails past the competition!"

"King K. Rool is finally here for you!"

"King K. Rool takes aim"

"King K. Rool :Blast from the past"

"King K. Rool has his finest hour"
KING K. ROOL
Krushes The Kompetition!

Simple but effective. I'd be shocked if they referenced the cartoon but they did do that with Mewtwo...

I don't suspect they will reference his absence. Feel like that might reflect poorly between different internal developers at Nintendo.
 
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Sirfishe

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i honestly prefer his modern look. I do like his Rare look back in the days but its a bit dated and looks a little cheesy sometimes. his modern take fits more with the overall art style and feel to todays smash brothers. They still could put in the rare design but his look now is fine to me

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Mini direct incoming?
So this is suggesting:

July: King K. Rool + Dixie Kong
August: Heihachi
September: Decidueye
October: Simon Belmont + ???
November: Elma
+ someone from Rhythm Heaven, Geno, and a couple of others.

It's the kind of leak I absolutely wish were true but absolutely don't believe.
 

SenSx

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They need to stop with those predictions.
They'd never know the months, even less the precise dates of the newcomers announcements.
I'd even doubt a true leaker would play with use with riddles, he would just straight leak everything, no guess game.
 
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Jurae818

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I feel like the Paon design just isn't very flattering in that render. It can definitely still look cool and threatening with the right touches:



I'd be 100% okay with something like this, honestly, but I see no reason for them to not use the Rare design due to the costume.

This is also a pretty decent touchup of the Smashified art:

That model needs a tail, and I'm sick of seeing all those edits but yet no one seems to want to add a simple tail to it. It doesn't even look that good in hindsight.
 

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Mini direct incoming?
King- King K. Rool
Ponytail - Dixie
Old man- Haihachi
Archer - Decidueye
Warrior - Simon Belmont
Secretary - ?????
Mech - Elma
Rythm - chorus kid's or Karate Joe
Folklore - Ashley
Doll - Geno
Prime Rib- Dark Samus

I say bull... thered be way to many unique newcomers in that list.. the only Echo would be Dark Samus... I'm in the camp that 6 unique fighters are left and the rest would be echoes. I can't see characters on that list aside from a few being semi cloned for echo.
 

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Secretary is Isabelle. The leak is likely fake, but most of the characters seem fairly safe.
 
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I just want to know what K. Rools splash screen could say, here's some idea's I had.

"King K. Rool sails past the competition!"

"King K. Rool is finally here for you!"

"King K. Rool takes aim"

"King K. Rool :Blast from the past"

"King K. Rool has his finest hour"
"King K. Rool krashes the party!"

"King K. Rool klaims his krown!"

"King K. Rool krushes the kompetition!" ( StormC StormC beat me to the punch on this one, but it's always been one of my favorites.)

"King K. Rool goes krazy!"

"King K. Rool makes his komeback!"

"King K. Rool is One of Us!"

"King K. Rool has been waiting a long time for this moment!" (Scene opens. K. Rool's DK64 voice clip plays: "I've been waiting a long time for this moment." Splash screen text appears: "King K. Rool has been waiting a long time for this moment!")
 

TheTreasonousSnowmad

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Only things I'd really want from a K. Rool trailer:

-Him beating up the Mii Costume
-Teaming up with Ridley, or striking a pose, or anything
-Ending on a group shot of K. Rool taunting DK, Diddy, and (hopefully) Dixie to "bring it on"
-Having him play dead as a stinger
What if him playing dead was his counter?
 
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Gobliiin

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What if him playing dead was his counter?
I thought about this before could be something that makes him a bit different and stand out more. Like its not a regular counter just absorbs damage and doesn't reflect it back or something maybe even heals him a bit instead? Would reflect his boss battles a bit that even though he goes down hes not actually defeated.
 

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Hey guys, mind if i join? Since wolf and Ridley were revealed, k rool is my most wanted newcomer.
Hey there. I'm rather new to this board as I've been reading the King K. Rool forums recently and I really want him to be in the game. Yes, he's my most wanted newcomer. If there's a King K. Rool discord, I want to join.
I only just joined a few days ago myself, so I'm not sure if there are rules regarding who gets to welcome others to the thread and who doesn't, but I couldn't find anything when I looked, so... welcome aboard!

I came across this while I was searching, Nintendo actually trademarked him. https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/8w7gtd/food_for_thought_king_k_rool_was_trademarked_for/
I saw a few articles pointing out the sudden trademark a few years back, and I noticed that they all claimed that Nintendo had trademarked King K. Rool based solely on the fact that they put the little ™ symbol next to his name. As it turns out, though, if you actually have a registered trademark, you don't use the ™ symbol; instead, you use the ® symbol. If you use ™, that usually means that you don't have a registered trademark, but you're claiming it as a common-law trademark to try and dissuade other people from using it, even though it doesn't have the same protections as a registered trademark. (Source: I just graduated from law school in May and have taken two intellectual property courses. Here's a super quick rundown of the differences for anyone who's interested: https://www.lawtrades.com/blog/answers/intellectual-property-differences/.)

I ran a few quick trademark searches in the USPTO trademark database, and, sure enough, I couldn't find any registered trademarks related to King K. Rool. (If anyone wants to search for themselves, you can do so here: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4803:1ongep.1.1) This shouldn't be seen as bad news, though, since trademark protection can be hard to get for characters' names unless they're the title of the series, like Donkey Kong or Super Mario, so slapping on a ™ is probably the best they could do for King K. Rool. And considering the timing of when they slapped on that ™, I think we can still view the news in the same positive light as always. (Just with some extra legal nuance. :smash:)

Finally, as a side note, I also ran searches for "Donkey Kong," "Donkey Kong Country," and "Super Smash Bros.," since Nintendo tends to use ™ after those titles as well. Nintendo does have registered trademarks in all three, so I'm not entirely sure why they don't use ® instead. Any IP scholars out there with more experience want to weigh in on this one?
 

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What if him playing dead was his counter?
I'd rather it be his crouch position.

That model needs a tail, and I'm sick of seeing all those edits but yet no one seems to want to add a simple tail to it. It doesn't even look that good in hindsight.
Tail would be nice but I still think the Smashified art looks great. It's by far the most flattering rendition of the Paon art.
 

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They need to stop with those predictions.
They'd never know the months, even less the precise dates of the newcomers announcements.
I'd even doubt a true leaker would play with use with riddles, he would just straight leak everything, no guess game.
I miss the days when a whole roster screenshot got leaked, and people would call it fake. No frills, and more elegant in a way.
 
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