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K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

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Well, I got knocked out of the tourney in the first round, even though I won the match. I guess I'm just better suited to real tourneys.

Tournament Mode is officially broken. Thanks but no thanks, Mashpotato Sideoffries.

On the plus side, I got a tiny bit of exposure for the King! I'm also apparently better with Mii Brawler than I thought - maybe I'll even take King K. Osplay to a full-on tourney in the near future, ha~

Re: Sakurai's Famitsu column, I'm sure something good will happen. By which I mean nothing at all will happen, which will mean something good for us~
 

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Famitsu, where Sakurai has a weekly column, comes out Friday, and scans of each issue come out two days prior on Wednesday. There's a chance he could address the K. Rool costume in his next column, for better or for worse. Him ignoring it would be something to consider as well.
I think if sakuri did say something about king k rool, it should be something like "yes there is a costume with him. but we have a few more plans with him". if he said something like that, that be hype lol
 

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Yeah, that's the idea.

If he brings it up, it's almost invariably going to be something bad. Something like Chrom's with "When it comes down to it, K. Rool is just another heavy reptile and doesn't bring uniqueness to the game" or "Please understand we will not be able to accommodate all requests, but now with the Mii Fighters, King K. Rool can join the game anyway."

If he ignores it, however, the reason will likely bode much better for us, whether it's that there isn't anything to say (it's a just costume that affects nothing) or even that something bigger is being hidden.
It would be nice if he was silent on it atleast then we can keep on believing. Maybe if were lucky he will straight up say that costumes have no affect on the ballot or something of that effect.
 

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Best thing Sakurai could do is talk how he decided on the costume pre-ballot and then go into detail about its design choices.
No deconfirmation, great food for thought/discussion/reading.
 

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I wouldn't call Sonic overdue. Mega Man maybe but delaying Brawl aside, Sonic got added literally as soon as he could; he was considered for Melee but Sega had gone third party too late by then.
 

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Yeah, that's the idea.

If he brings it up, it's almost invariably going to be something bad. Something like Chrom's with "When it comes down to it, K. Rool is just another heavy reptile and doesn't bring uniqueness to the game" or "Please understand we will not be able to accommodate all requests, but now with the Mii Fighters, King K. Rool can join the game anyway.".
Both are undesirable, but if Sakurai does give a reason, I'd hope for the latter than the former. The latter, while an unhelpful explanation for why K. Rool isn't a DLC fighter, is vague enough where we don't really know what the actual reason is. Because of this, an official statement like this wouldn't necessarily be giving deadly ammunition to detractors, like with Ridley's size factor, because again we don't really know anything, we can only assume. Yes, in absence of an explanation, most of them will just use the common arguments, especially "K. Rool is irrelevant", but all it takes is one more game appearance to change that one. Sakurai giving the Chrom explanation would sink our ships for good, just like it did for Ridley.

Of course, the possibility exists Sakurai can use both options; he considers K. Rool nothing more than "another heavy reptile" but would opt for the "we cannot accommodate all requests" statement and therefore just leave it at that, thus we are to never know it's because of that reason. If so, than it's more of a slow poisoning than an outright end to our suffering, because unless Sakurai changes his mind in the next several years, we would be getting our hopes up for a character who was doomed from the start during the speculation scene of SSB5.

As already stated, we should just hope for no explanation, and if one is to be given, it's best if it's K. Rool needing to make another appearance since at least that can be accomplished far, far easier than changing the stubborn mind-set of a director's vision for what he considers to be a character's 'full potential'.
 
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If Sakurai considers K. Rool just another heavy reptile after thousands of fans submit reasons why exactly he isn't, then he's just daft. I'd take "irrelevant" or even "too big" over that.
 

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Famitsu, where Sakurai has a weekly column, comes out Friday, and scans of each issue come out two days prior on Wednesday. There's a chance he could address the K. Rool costume in his next column, for better or for worse. Him ignoring it would be something to consider as well.

Even if its bad news like Ridley a straight deconfirm..like ''ow..i see K Rool better of as a costume''

I hope he just comes out with it and addresses us instead of making us wait intill october or even worse 2016.

Like Ridley.

You see whats happening now is what i called the insult to injury/salt on the wound.
What i was talking about before.
 

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Was playing with the Mii K. Rool on Little Mac's stage and noticed that the "nickname" given to the Mii Brawler on the flat screen in the background -- "Brawler of Many faces"-- applies to K. Rool, too. Cool coincidence.
 

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Sakurai said DLC now will be fan-service so I don't think he'll exclude a character because of personal bias. The only reasons I see against a character in the ballot would be 3rd party rights and/or hardware limitations (Ice Climbers).
 

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If Sakurai considers K. Rool just another heavy reptile after thousands of fans submit reasons why exactly he isn't, then he's just daft. I'd take "irrelevant" or even "too big" over that.
I bring that up because there's a quote from his column about the difficulty of making characters about how "Fans only think about putting characters in the game without thinking of how their moves flow together." It doesn't matter how many good ideas we put in if he's a snob and thinks they don't "flow" well enough. With a lot of K. Rool's moves involving different weapons being taken out, this is something to think about.
 

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So the general consensus is if Sakurai was asked about the costume, it will be best for him to say "no comment" or something in the same ball park
 

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Didn't Sakurai said a while back that he prefers heavy characters more, by the way?
 

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My attitude has always been this when comes to fighting games in general. If you can make a Datoya racing car a fighter then you can make anything a fighter. Those who say otherwise are stubborn or truly uncreative.
 

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Didn't Sakurai said a while back that he prefers heavy characters more, by the way?
Yep.

I bring that up because there's a quote from his column about the difficulty of making characters about how "Fans only think about putting characters in the game without thinking of how their moves flow together." It doesn't matter how many good ideas we put in if he's a snob and thinks they don't "flow" well enough. With a lot of K. Rool's moves involving different weapons being taken out, this is something to think about.
Multiple different weapons shouldn't be an issue. :4bowserjr::4duckhunt::4megaman::4villager::snake::4link:
 
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Anyone grab K. Rool mii on 3DS? Maybe take a screenshot in Smash Run with the Kritters.

Also: I echo the call to take a screenshot with other Miis wearing roster character costumes (e.g. Samus Mii, Link Mii, etc.) . If you have any, that is. Would be a good "public service announcement" photo to fight against the notion that K. Rool has been "disconfirmed".
 

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Yep. Of course, it'll still sting if he doesn't get playable, or if we wake up next Wednesday to see an article titled "Sakurai Explains Why He Made King K. Rool a Costume." That being said, I think we've learned from the Ridley disconfirmation and will be more prepared to counter all the people determined to make us a meme. You don't see a lot of Ridley fans comfortable admitting their support for the character anymore, and that's something we shouldn't let happen to us, just based on a few vocal trolls.

Our future is shining brighter than ever in the actual main series DK games, so there's always that to look forward to as a true "consolation prize" in any case.
Just because sakurai said something doesnt mean you have to agree with it..hell if Sakurai says something it doesnt even mean if its true! He went back on his word many times.
And i still dont think Ridley is too big nor is he too awkward or wrong to make playable.
 

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Looking back to the four most infamous rejects(Ridley, Ice Climbers, Takamaru and Chrom) the reasons he gave for them were at least legitimate, even if you don't agree with them. Ridley proportions are legitimately awkward, they can be worked around but require twice the effort that a normal character would take, Takamaru is legitimately an obscure name in the West(though the same could be said for some playable characters), Chrom is legitimately a bit too similar to Marth and Ike, and as for Ice Climbers, well, you should know it.

K. Rool however, doesn't have any of these issues: he is known and loved worldwide, he is vastly different from the Kongs and any other character and doesn't have particularly weird proportions, nor hardware issues.
Which is why I'm so scared about an hard deconfirmation from his mouth; anything he could say at this point on why K. Rool "doesn't deserve" would sound like pure bull.
 

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There's also this idea at hand that there's a "one true essence" to a character that only Sakurai is capable of seeing. The fact that a moveset can be made for anyone doesn't matter if it doesn't "capture" that essence. For example, Falcon can work because he's "speedy, reckless, bold and bombastic" or whatever semantics you want to use to claim he "represents the gameplay of F-Zero." Ditto with guys like Fox or Little Mac.

Meanwhile, no matter how much his fans try to say that he's not defined by his size but by his viciousness, "Playable Ridley would break the game because he would have to have smaller wings that couldn't fly freely." On the same token, no matter how often we argue that K. Rool is a deranged tech genius, if Sakurai deems his "essence" to be "comical fat animal," then we're written off as redundant and boring. (This is also why you see so much defending of OOC movesets like Little Mac or Wario...fans throw out their "one true essences" of "high risk, high reward" or "lol so random" and pretend that other aspects to the character don't fit into that).

The best hope to counteract this is to get as many ballots as possible sent in defining K. Rool in terms of his many uniquenesses, with both personality and playstyle. The more that's hammered home, the tougher it is for developers or detractors to defend the opposite stance.
 
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I know I should buy the costume in support for K. Rool, and because it looks so great anyways, but I just can't bring myself to do it. Every time I look at it, and see the Mii Fighter's stupid face inside King K Rool's mouth, it just bothers me to no end, and reminds me how little faith I have of ever seeing him in this game.

I honestly just can't even begin to see what they were thinking with this. Even though the ballot isn't over, they MUST have at least STARTED to put some thought into who the people wanted to see. They MUST have already seen everything we've done to get the King in Smash. This is Nintendo we're talking about, here. Most of the time, they care about what their fans want to see (Don't mention FF or lack of F-Zero). After pretty much explicitly saying "Tell us who you want to see", and seeing all those people across the globe respond "K. Rool", how could they possibly think saying "Here's a costume, pretend your Mii is K. Rool", would be a good idea?!?

I dunno, anymore. I want to believe, but after seeing this, I just can't anymore. This whole DLC thing has been a bit of a bummer for me. I want my old mains back? Too bad, never happening. I want the Inklings? Buy the game and get a costume for the one character you absolutely can not stand. This whole thing just seems to be the next sign, saying "We're not adding the characters you want, but here, take these instead". And the sad part is, they know I will.

(Oh wow. Sorry for the long post. I got caught up in my rant, there... :upsidedown:)
 

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There's also this idea at hand that there's a "one true essence" to a character that only Sakurai is capable of seeing. The fact that a moveset can be made for anyone doesn't matter if it doesn't "capture" that essence. For example, Falcon can work because he's "speedy, reckless, bold and bombastic" or whatever semantics you want to use to claim he "represents the gameplay of F-Zero." Ditto with guys like Fox or Little Mac.

Meanwhile, no matter how much his fans try to say that he's not defined by his size but by his viciousness, "Playable Ridley would break the game because he would have to have smaller wings that couldn't fly freely." On the same token, no matter how often we argue that K. Rool is a deranged tech genius, if Sakurai deems his "essence" to be "comical fat animal," then we're written off as redundant and boring. (This is also why you see so much defending of OOC movesets like Little Mac or Wario...fans throw out their "one true essences" of "high risk, high reward" or "lol so random" and pretend that other aspects to the character don't fit into that).

The best hope to counteract this is to get as many ballots as possible sent in defining K. Rool in terms of his many uniquenesses, with both personality and playstyle. The more that's hammered home, the tougher it is for developers or detractors to defend the opposite stance.
Someone else needs ro make the next smash..thats what im saying.

I know I should buy the costume in support for K. Rool, and because it looks so great anyways, but I just can't bring myself to do it. Every time I look at it, and see the Mii Fighter's stupid face inside King K Rool's mouth, it just bothers me to no end, and reminds me how little faith I have of ever seeing him in this game.

I honestly just can't even begin to see what they were thinking with this. Even though the ballot isn't over, they MUST have at least STARTED to put some thought into who the people wanted to see. They MUST have already seen everything we've done to get the King in Smash. This is Nintendo we're talking about, here. Most of the time, they care about what their fans want to see (Don't mention FF or lack of F-Zero). After pretty much explicitly saying "Tell us who you want to see", and seeing all those people across the globe respond "K. Rool", how could they possibly think saying "Here's a costume, pretend your Mii is K. Rool", would be a good idea?!?

I dunno, anymore. I want to believe, but after seeing this, I just can't anymore. This whole DLC thing has been a bit of a bummer for me. I want my old mains back? Too bad, never happening. I want the Inklings? Buy the game and get a costume for the one character you absolutely can not stand. This whole thing just seems to be the next sign, saying "We're not adding the characters you want, but here, take these instead". And the sad part is, they know I will.

(Oh wow. Sorry for the long post. I got caught up in my rant, there... :upsidedown:)
If he doesnt get in the ballot is over to me because i honestly dont care about anyone else...RealTalk
 
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There's also this idea at hand that there's a "one true essence" to a character that only Sakurai is capable of seeing. The fact that a moveset can be made for anyone doesn't matter if it doesn't "capture" that essence. For example, Falcon can work because he's "speedy, reckless, bold and bombastic" or whatever semantics you want to use to claim he "represents the gameplay of F-Zero." Ditto with guys like Fox or Little Mac.

Meanwhile, no matter how much his fans try to say that he's not defined by his size but by his viciousness, "Playable Ridley would break the game because he would have to have smaller wings that couldn't fly freely." On the same token, no matter how often we argue that K. Rool is a deranged tech genius, if Sakurai deems his "essence" to be "comical fat animal," then we're written off as redundant and boring. (This is also why you see so much defending of OOC movesets like Little Mac or Wario...fans throw out their "one true essences" of "high risk, high reward" or "lol so random" and pretend that other aspects to the character don't fit into that).

The best hope to counteract this is to get as many ballots as possible sent in defining K. Rool in terms of his many uniquenesses, with both personality and playstyle. The more that's hammered home, the tougher it is for developers or detractors to defend the opposite stance.
All I can say so Sakurai's decision making is.

*Says he can't put a flying dragon in the game

*Adds a flying dragon in the game
 

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It's a gut feeling that I have. Mainly because every wave of DLC had a character included in it so i'm thinking there might be at least a character reveal soon even if it takes a month or 2 to finish.
Ah. Well, after doing reach search, I found that most main Directs were on a Wednesday, so you'd gut felling that it will happen on such a day is not completely out of the question.
 

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If he doesnt get in the ballot is over to me because i honestly dont care about anyone else...RealTalk
Some trolls, and etika, try to make the kostume seem as if he really wasn't voted on much. The thing is if this was the case, how would these fan polls be so off? I understand that they are not the most accurate but when every poll i see no matter what country has our king in the top 5, there has to be some consistency.

These polls can be incorrect if you think they show the entire ballot. If you see rayman at #1 or shantae at #1 in a poll that was taken for america, then it will be wrong. You have to take in consideration other countries like japan. Rayman is barely known in japan and most likely the same with shantae and even shovel knight. So when different polls are taken in different places and show consistency, then you might have a good estimate.
 

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In a way, this costume is kind of a blessing. In the scenario where K. Rool isn't playable, we're ready to accept that. We've already had our kneejerk reaction to his seeming deconfirmation. It won't hit as hard if he isn't DLC.

Like I said. Expect the worst, hope for the best.
Eh. I don't think there would have been much of a negative reaction if he wasn't DLC and just didn't get any acknowledgement if I'm being honest.
 

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All I can say so Sakurai's decision making is.

*Says he can't put a flying dragon in the game

*Adds a flying dragon in the game
But sir...

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Charizard is not a dragon.
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But sir...
Charizard is not a dragon.
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His Final Smash is...
 

StormC

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Honestly, Sakurai's answer for why Ridley can't be playable sounds rather canned. I doubt he wanted to get into the nitty gritty technical reasons why he decided against it in an IGN e-mail.
 

JayJay55

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Looking back to the four most infamous rejects(Ridley, Ice Climbers, Takamaru and Chrom) the reasons he gave for them were at least legitimate, even if you don't agree with them. Ridley proportions are legitimately awkward, they can be worked around but require twice the effort that a normal character would take, Takamaru is legitimately an obscure name in the West(though the same could be said for some playable characters), Chrom is legitimately a bit too similar to Marth and Ike, and as for Ice Climbers, well, you should know it.

K. Rool however, doesn't have any of these issues: he is known and loved worldwide, he is vastly different from the Kongs and any other character and doesn't have particularly weird proportions, nor hardware issues.
Which is why I'm so scared about an hard deconfirmation from his mouth; anything he could say at this point on why K. Rool "doesn't deserve" would sound like pure bull.
“It’d have to be shrunk down, or its wings reduced in size, or be unable to fly around freely.” "Providing accurate portrayals of characters is something I want to pay ample attention to,” he continued. “If I don’t stick to that thought, then we’d have to lower the quality or break the balance of the game. Something that goes way off spec could break the entire game.” “Instead of going through a lot of very convoluted hocus-pocus to make Ridley a fighter, I figured it’d be better to keep Ridley as it currently is, the correct way, and have it feel like a truly threatening presence,” Sakurai explained. “There are other icons, too, like Metal Face and the Yellow Devil, which help effectively portray each of their world settings. They go a long way toward deepening the game world, and I think it’s been fun to experiment with.”

Well Sakurai's claims are still incorrect if a 14 YEAR OLD can do other wise. Ridley's wings are barely touched upon in Bagan's mod. Besides his reasoning is condescending since he seems to think Ridley being a punching bag is the "correct way", this statement leads me to assume he knows nothing at all about the character considering Ridley would never subject himself to being a pathetic punching bag able to be betrayed easily by the people who are supposedly "on his side" (and this assumption wouldn't be too far-fetched since Metroid isn't that popular in Japan anyways, I don't even think many people even know about the Metroid manga, which if I recall correctly is indeed canon). And that BS statement about convoluted hocus-pocus holds no ground because Duck Hunt's design is pretty damn convoluted, I never would have imagined him summoning gunmen from a totally different game that has no relation to duck hunt other than the games having something to do with shooting, or those cans. The discus is just about the only damn thing that makes sense.
 
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SuperSmashSean

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Honestly, Sakurai's answer for why Ridley can't be playable sounds rather canned. I doubt he wanted to get into the nitty gritty technical reasons why he decided against it in an IGN e-mail.
Plus its IGN so yeah.

Sakurai's reason for not putting in ridley: 7.8/10 Too much boss enemy
 
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Looking at it this way.
If they had released the K. Rool Mii costume anytime after K. Rool as a character was announced. Would anyone had bought the costume then?.
well what about the samus costume? shes playable yet people need to pay for a dumb costume if they want to put it on the miis.
 

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“It’d have to be shrunk down, or its wings reduced in size, or be unable to fly around freely.” "Providing accurate portrayals of characters is something I want to pay ample attention to,” he continued. “If I don’t stick to that thought, then we’d have to lower the quality or break the balance of the game. Something that goes way off spec could break the entire game.” “Instead of going through a lot of very convoluted hocus-pocus to make Ridley a fighter, I figured it’d be better to keep Ridley as it currently is, the correct way, and have it feel like a truly threatening presence,” Sakurai explained. “There are other icons, too, like Metal Face and the Yellow Devil, which help effectively portray each of their world settings. They go a long way toward deepening the game world, and I think it’s been fun to experiment with.”

Well Sakurai's claims are still incorrect if a 14 YEAR OLD can do other wise. His wings are barely touched upon in Bagan's mod. Besides his reasoning is condescending since he seems to think Ridley being a punching bag is the "correct way".
Says he wants to portray characters accurately.
Mains Ganondorf in Brawl.
Logic???????
 

Talpr1

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You know when we said "draw fanart to support the King?" I'm a bit sad because I'm actually decent at drawing(not anything spectacular though), but I'm on vacation and I left my pencils at home. I can't do drawings for Miiverse either. At least I still have that drawing of K. Rool wearing Satsuki Kiryuin's Junketsu from Kill la Kill I did a while back, only to realize that Ragyo is much more similar to him personality wise after I finished it.
Whatever, I can post it if you are interested.
 
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