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K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

BKupa666

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I have a better one. Would you replace Mario for your two most wanted characters?
Funnily enough, my Brawl disc actually stops reading whenever Mario is chosen on the character select screen, so I've been accustomed to not playing as Mario in Brawl for months and months now. Because of that, I might consider replacing Mario on my own personal game disc for K. Rool and Ridley, but not in the game as a whole, for obvious reasons (and I think those two have high enough odds to begin with).
 

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Funnily enough, my Brawl disc actually stops reading whenever Mario is chosen on the character select screen, so I've been accustomed to not playing as Mario in Brawl for months and months now. Because of that, I might consider replacing Mario on my own personal game disc for K. Rool and Ridley, but not in the game as a whole, for obvious reasons (and I think those two have high enough odds to begin with).
I feel the same way. I love Mario and he's THE Nintendo character, but if I could have my own little version with Mario replaced by K. Rool and Ridley, I wouldn't hesitate.
 

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How would you react to this: K. Rool replaces Diddy.

I'm all for bringing in new faces, so I'd be satisfied.

They would have to do something really, really, REALLY stupid to dissuade me from buying it.
I don't think they COULD dissuade me from buying at least the 3DS version. But they'll have to make this game special for me to get a Wii U to play that version.

Hit the nail right on the head here, in terms of what my plan is. I need some serious convincing if I'm going to lay down money for this game, a Wii U and a television, and nothing short of my personal cream of the crop will fly in that case. One of K. Rool and Ridley would be needed for me to buy the game at all, and K. Rool himself would be needed for me to enthusiastically buy it on day one (though both would be ideal). I really could not care less about the "it's still a good game," "it has good gameplay," or "you'll have fun" reasons others will use to buy it, regardless of who's in.

Smash is a good, fun game to me because it's virtually an endless sandbox I can fight through with the characters I've enjoyed since childhood, and, other than K. Rool, they're all already in at this point (Bowser and DK got me to purchase Melee, my first Smash, and Diddy and Dedede got me to purchase Brawl). If there's a handful of rad new cookie-cutter protagonists with flashy playstyles, but that I have no attachment to whatsoever? Great. I'll test them out at my cousin's house, or at Best Buy, because that's about how long I'd end up playing as them if I owned the game anyway. That doesn't make me any less of a Smash fan.
Mega Man and Villager were two of my top ten before E3. I'm satisfied that they get in... if I can get one or two more characters I want, I'd be a very happy man.
 

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I don't think they COULD dissuade me from buying at least the 3DS version. But they'll have to make this game special for me to get a Wii U to play that version.
I have a feeling they're holding something up their sleeve that will make people want to go buy a Wii U.
 

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...anyways, I'm pretty sure king k rool will show up in another DK soon, whether or not he's in smash.
 

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So guys, me and Chronobound were having a little talk in the Ridley thread, and we began discussing K. Rool, and we kind of hit the subject of a Returns stage.

What would you think if we got a Returns or Tropical Freeze stage, would that lend help to Dixie and slightly boost down K. Rool's chances or?
 

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I don't think a stage necessarily ups a character's chances. Brawl's DK stage was based on Jungle Beat, and Diddy wasn't in it.
 

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Yeah, but the idea was that all DK representation could end up being based off of the later DKC games, much like with Metroid and Other M.

Personally I'm pretty much expecting a Returns stage, and I think much along your lines, but I'm interested in what other people think.
 

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I agree with Falkoopa. Regardless of what happens with DK newcomers, the main new DK stage was always going to be something from Returns, not, say, Gangplank Galleon, which is my hope for a second DK stage, as opposed to another throwaway arcade one. Stages are one area of the game where relevance absolutely doesn't deserve to get put in quotation marks, if you know what I mean.
 

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I agree with Falkoopa. Regardless of what happens with DK newcomers, the main new DK stage was always going to be something from Returns, not, say, Gangplank Galleon, which is my hope for a second DK stage, as opposed to another throwaway arcade one. Stages are one area of the game where relevance absolutely doesn't deserve to get put in quotation marks, if you know what I mean.
This. Stages should be memorable and iconic locations, not just whatever's the most recent (though I fear the latter is what we're seeing with this new game). Ideally, I'd also like to have all three. My ideal stage lineup from the DK franchise would be:

A DKCR stage (Golden Temple or just a generic stage based on the jungle temples with all the screaming pillars and whatnot);
Gangplank Galleon (to represent the original DKC games and the series' piratey aspects);
and a construction site stage, this time only inspired by the arcade games, and not fully recreated as an unplayable mess; Alternatively, a Mario vs Donkey Kong stage.

I think the chances of a Tropical Freeze stage are low, considering how recent the game is. Additionally, the ice-themed stages seem to be reserved for Ice Climber.
 

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Barring some blend between the two, I don't see Tropical Freeze getting the stage over Returns. I'm fully expecting it to be some form of jungle, because heaven knows nothing else stage-worthy exists in DKC titles. Though Tropical Freeze's jungles are more mangrove-styles, they're functionally identical to the traditional ones from Returns, which has the benefit of widespread exposure on two platforms to its name.
 

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The reason I doubt a Tropical Freeze stage is because it's being released while Smash is in development. Very much comparable to Galaxy not getting a stage in Brawl and Metroid Prime 3 being all but ignored. Brawl represented what was happening on the Gamecube, SSB4 represents what was cool on the Wii.
 

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So guys, me and Chronobound were having a little talk in the Ridley thread, and we began discussing K. Rool, and we kind of hit the subject of a Returns stage.

What would you think if we got a Returns or Tropical Freeze stage, would that lend help to Dixie and slightly boost down K. Rool's chances or?





 

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Yep, in short summarizes why I don't think it matters either. Still, thought it might be interesting to hear out what people would say.
 

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Yeah, but the idea was that all DK representation could end up being based off of the later DKC games, much like with Metroid and Other M.

Personally I'm pretty much expecting a Returns stage, and I think much along your lines, but I'm interested in what other people think.
Link

His model is based on Twilight Princess, yet all his stages and stuff have to deal with skyward sword
 

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Hey, guess what? Toon Link wasn't shown alongside a Pirate Ship stage today! That must mean they're saving it for a different, crueler pirate, right? Right?!
 

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Hey, guess what? Toon Link wasn't shown alongside a Pirate Ship stage today! That must mean they're saving it for a different, crueler pirate, right? Right?!
God, I hope so. I've been wanting Gangplank Galleon for so long. Could you imagine fighting on Gangplank Galleon as it circles around DK Island, or even better, Crocodile Isle?
 

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1. If you look close enough there's a hole somewhere in this old creepy ship known as Gangplank Galleon, where an arch enemy from DK's past could pop up at any second!

2. Speculation commences on whether it was K. Rool himself that caused that hole and comes out of it to throw his crown randomly and jumps back in as a hazard, or if it was just a spot where cannonballs (from the King's DKC boss fight) had landed there too many times and/or a hole where cannonballs pop out of to hit random targets playing on the stage.

3. ???

4. Profit for Sakurai.

Sorry, with Diddy's last posts, that was hard to resist. :troll: I really do hope you're right though BKupa in that last post you made with the presumption about the Galleon. Would be incredible if we got that over Toon Link's pirate ship.
edit: Or alongside that other ship level to be more realistic.
 

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Oh, I'm being completely tongue-in-cheek at the moment, because Pirate Ship could just be held off for later update. That said, if it's not being shown because it doesn't exist, the next most obvious ship stage is our very own Gangplank Galleon.
 

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Well...it looks as though Tropical Freeze got delayed until February, at least according to DKVine's observations of its Amazon release date.

F**k Nintendo, f**k Iwata, f**k Super Mario 3D World, f**k everything relating to them. It's f**king Donkey Kong Barrel Blast all over again.

I f**king hate these idiots and literally want to see them die.

loljk it's a pre-Brawl inside joke over there ;)
 

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Well...it looks as though Tropical Freeze got delayed until February, at least according to DKVine's observations of its Amazon release date.

F**k Nintendo, f**k Iwata, f**k Super Mario 3D World, f**k everything relating to them. It's f**king Donkey Kong Barrel Blast all over again.

I f**king hate these idiots and literally want to see them die.

loljk it's a pre-Brawl inside joke over there ;)
AWW F**K

I was saving up for that....
 

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Fans: "You should give us that new Donkey Kong game to help boost the Wii U's sales.
Nintendo: "Oh, that Tropical Punch thing? We appreciate y'all's concern, but nah, we got this."
*Delays Donkey Kong and reveals Toon Link on the Smash website*
Fans: "Oh, okay. Take our money."

6 Years Earlier...
10/11/07
Fans: "You should give us Brawl now."
Nintendo: "Oh, that Super Smack thing? We appreciate y'all's concern, but nah, we got this."
*Delays Brawl and reveals Sonic on the Smash website*
Fans: "Oh, okay. Take our money."
 

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Now, we're left to wonder whether the fourth character will be revealed earlier in lieu of the alleged delay, or whether we'll have to wait until release to find out.
 

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Yeah, just because a stage relating to one character is shown doesn't necessarily make the character related to it likely and another character less likely.
 

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Fans: "You should give us that new Donkey Kong game to help boost the Wii U's sales.
Nintendo: "Oh, that Tropical Punch thing? We appreciate y'all's concern, but nah, we got this."
*Delays Donkey Kong and reveals Toon Link on the Smash website*
Fans: "Oh, okay. Take our money."

6 Years Earlier...
10/11/07
Fans: "You should give us Brawl now."
Nintendo: "Oh, that Super Smack thing? We appreciate y'all's concern, but nah, we got this."
*Delays Brawl and reveals Sonic on the Smash website*
Fans: "Oh, okay. Take our money."
Toon Link isn't something I'd hand over money for
 

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I don't think a stage necessarily ups a character's chances. Brawl's DK stage was based on Jungle Beat, and Diddy wasn't in it.
I remember that when DK's final Smash, and the jungle beat stage were revealed, the members on DKbine got worried that diddly wouldn't be playable.
 

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Well, with Tropical Freeze being delayed December will probably have a Peach-esque reveal instead of Diddy Kong then, unless Japan gets it in December still.
 
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