K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[Someguyyoulikelydontknow]

Thanks for the feedback, guys! I'm going to buy DKC2 after I've bought all of the Smash DLC.
That said, I think it would be hilarious if K. Rool's Final Smash ends up being the Kredits from DKC.
MAKE IT HAPPEN, SAKURAI.

I too want to see K. Rools final Smash be the Kredits Roll. Not sure how likely it is, but I am certainly being wishful about it.

 

[Bedoop]

Good evening, Kutthroats! How's the happenings today?

DKC2 is one of those quintessential video game sequels that improves on the first in basically every manner. I've only ever met two people who prefer the first game.

I prefer the first game for 2 reasons
1) It's the only DKC I ever played (Including Returns, Tropic Freeze and any spin-off that isn't Diddy Kong Racing), I'm a fraud
2) King K. Rool's face after he throws his krown
"NO, WAIT, I DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT, DON'T HIT ME- OW"

 

[Someguyyoulikelydontknow]

Paon:

Rare:

-no claws
-tail
-jewel color
-golden plate armor
-larger crown

I personally wouldn't mind a mix of the PAON and Rare designs, Maybe the Proportions of PAON, but with the green jewel, golden chest plate, bigger krown, and klaws. Part of my beef with the Rare design for Smash, love it though I do, is that the arm and leg length just look so... wonky in his concept designs. His arms might look odd in certain moves, and his stubby legs might look odd running everywhere and fast speeds.

 

[Deleted member]

Was talking to my dad just now, and I brought up how K. Rool should be in Smash Bros. To which he responded, "Oh yeah, he should...that seems like a given. Not having him is like not having Bowser." I had to resist the urge to shout "THANK YOU!", lol. Hearing that said by someone like my dad, who's hardly touched a game controller newer than that of a SNES, was really encouraging to me for some reason.

Spoiler

Meanwhile here where i live nobody, and i repeat, NOBODY cares about what i think, what i do and what i play. (and i am sure that NOBODY would ever told me something like that in my life, smash fan or not.)
Man, i hate beign to only person in my family to care about Video Games and not have any friends to spent time with.

Anyway, it seems that K.Rools trademark thingy is really getting out of hand.
Oh and also Kutthroats, don't expect me to post daily here anymore, since i will be busy for quite some time.

 

[Bedoop]

Was talking to my dad just now, and I brought up how K. Rool should be in Smash Bros. To which he responded, "Oh yeah, he should...that seems like a given. Not having him is like not having Bowser." I had to resist the urge to shout "THANK YOU!", lol. Hearing that said by someone like my dad, who's hardly touched a game controller newer than that of a SNES, was really encouraging to me for some reason.

Right in the Feels
I'm really feeling that
I'm probably gonna talk to my friend (A Game store manager who brings only 1980-2000 stuff to the table and loves to sit down and play/race classic games with me whenever I visit, he's quite the wise old man) about King K. later on in the week when I get the time to visit

Also;
I'm currently playing Pokemon Heart Gold.
My starter is a Totodile, whom I named "K. Ascade" (Cascade meaning Waterfall, add Kremling flair and boom)
Little Kutthroat.

 

[StormC]

I personally wouldn't mind a mix of the PAON and Rare designs, Maybe the Proportions of PAON, but with the green jewel, golden chest plate, bigger krown, and klaws. Part of my beef with the Rare design for Smash, love it though I do, is that the arm and leg length just look so... wonky in his concept designs. His arms might look odd in certain moves, and his stubby legs might look odd running everywhere and fast speeds.

So something like this? (courtesy of our friend @Thelimomon):

 

[DJ3DS]

Right in the Feels
I'm really feeling that
I'm probably gonna talk to my friend (A Game store manager who brings only 1980-2000 stuff to the table and loves to sit down and play/race classic games with me whenever I visit, he's quite the wise old man) about King K. later on in the week when I get the time to visit

Also;
I'm currently playing Pokemon Heart Gold.
My starter is a Totodile, whom I named "K. Ascade" (Cascade meaning Waterfall, add Kremling flair and boom)
Little Kutthroat.

I see you have excellent choice in starters.

So something like this? (courtesy of our friend @Thelimomon):

I love this picture; not sure I've seen it in full before. Might play about with some recoloured at some point as this looks conducive to recolouring if you're bad at recolouring.

 

[Someguyyoulikelydontknow]

So something like this? (courtesy of our friend @Thelimomon):

Something like, probably.

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

I personally wouldn't mind a mix of the PAON and Rare designs, Maybe the Proportions of PAON, but with the green jewel, golden chest plate, bigger krown, and klaws. Part of my beef with the Rare design for Smash, love it though I do, is that the arm and leg length just look so... wonky in his concept designs. His arms might look odd in certain moves, and his stubby legs might look odd running everywhere and fast speeds.

I agree with this, I think that Paon has ironed out some of the overall proportion designs, but lacks the fine details. Essentially, the Paon body works better as part of the Mario-verse, while the Rare has the details that make him truly unique, combining the two creates the superior K.Rool design. Unlike Link, Zelda, King Dedede, and Ridley who have had a gradual period of redesign and change, our king had the primary change from 2D to 3D with no real intermediary steps. Smash has to represent both the past and the future, and take advantage of both. So if we're talking out of existing designs, K.Rool's Paon body, with a more pronounced eye, and the armor you've got the right mix of detail and simplicity, and the armor is a better contrast to DK, both wear simple outfits, but K.Rool's has extra flair.

Though, there is a third possibility we aren't considering. When Sakurai decides on a character he refers to either the creator or the current person behind the direction of the series. So either they go to the Rare guy who created the original design, confers with Paon/Namco, or goes to Retro who have the current control of the franchise. Depending on who is decided it is possible Sakurai may consult with them for the design, and if it is Retro, and they are bringing our King back, his design could be his new comeback design which is different from what we all expect while homaging the previous designs

Also something it seems like everyone is overlooking when it comes to the ballot is that at least one of the picks will be from an unrepresented franchise, and that'll be the wildcard, because I think for every repped franchise that gets a newcomer from the ballot, an unrepped franchise will be picked, and that's where things become unclear

 

[GaroMaster]

So, a member of the Rayman Support Thread decided to take it upon herself to Raymanify some characters. The member's name is @ AndreaAC and she decided to make this for you Kutthroats. Enjoy!

 

[Someguyyoulikelydontknow]

I agree with this, I think that Paon has ironed out some of the overall proportion designs, but lacks the fine details. Essentially, the Paon body works better as part of the Mario-verse, while the Rare has the details that make him truly unique, combining the two creates the superior K.Rool design. Unlike Link, Zelda, King Dedede, and Ridley who have had a gradual period of redesign and change, our king had the primary change from 2D to 3D with no real intermediary steps. Smash has to represent both the past and the future, and take advantage of both. So if we're talking out of existing designs, K.Rool's Paon body, with a more pronounced eye, and the armor you've got the right mix of detail and simplicity, and the armor is a better contrast to DK, both wear simple outfits, but K.Rool's has extra flair.

Though, there is a third possibility we aren't considering. When Sakurai decides on a character he refers to either the creator or the current person behind the direction of the series. So either they go to the Rare guy who created the original design, confers with Paon/Namco, or goes to Retro who have the current control of the franchise. Depending on who is decided it is possible Sakurai may consult with them for the design, and if it is Retro, and they are bringing our King back, his design could be his new comeback design which is different from what we all expect while homaging the previous designs

Also something it seems like everyone is overlooking when it comes to the ballot is that at least one of the picks will be from an unrepresented franchise, and that'll be the wildcard, because I think for every repped franchise that gets a newcomer from the ballot, an unrepped franchise will be picked, and that's where things become unclear

As cool as that may be, I hope that's not what happens. I feel like many fans would be displeased if it was totally different than what we know. If it's a Retro design that's kind of like a throwback/redux of the original, then I might be a bit more interested.

 

[murdokdracul]

So, a member of the Rayman Support Thread decided to take it upon herself to Raymanify some characters. The member's name is @ AndreaAC and she decided to make this for you Kutthroats. Enjoy!

Ring Ray Kool?

 

[GaroMaster]

Ring Ray Kool?

He is known as..
King K. Ray
Ring Ray Rool is good too, though.

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

I feel like many fans would be displeased if it was totally different than what we know. If it's a Retro design that's kind of like a throwback/redux of the original, then I might be a bit more interested.

I wouldn't mind it too much, myself. That said, this is because any such redesign couldn't possibly be as drastic as the one that Pit got! (I always expected him to get into Smash with his original design, not a completely overhauled one. I didn't mind it once I got used to it, though.)

 

[DJ3DS]

Also something it seems like everyone is overlooking when it comes to the ballot is that at least one of the picks will be from an unrepresented franchise, and that'll be the wildcard,

Do you have a source for this, or is it an opinion? I imagine it's the latter as otherwise I'd expect to have read about it by now but if it is then you really shouldn't be saying it so authoritatively.

 

[Xzsmmc]

Not to steer the subject back to haters, but seeing so many of them crawl out of the woodwork with Rool's newfound exposure does ave me worried. If he's getting this much hate, could be we be wrong in assuming he's the #1 most popular pick for a newcomer?

 

[FeenieTheTrite]

Nah, I think you guys aren't expecting ENOUGH DLC characters, I believe that the final roster, including DLC, will look something like this:

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EDIT: In all seriousness, 4-6 characters (6 characters might be pushing it a bit) sounds reasonable, with 2 or more probably being the minimum

 

[Someguyyoulikelydontknow]

Nah, I think you guys aren't expecting ENOUGH DLC characters, I believe that the final roster, including DLC, will look something like this:

Spoiler

7.8/10 not enough characters.

 

[Schnee117]

Not to steer the subject back to haters, but seeing so many of them crawl out of the woodwork with Rool's newfound exposure does ave me worried. If he's getting this much hate, could be we be wrong in assuming he's the #1 most popular pick for a newcomer?

People will hate anything that's popular just to seem cool.
See: Jurassic World.

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

Do you have a source for this, or is it an opinion? I imagine it's the latter as otherwise I'd expect to have read about it by now but if it is then you really shouldn't be saying it so authoritatively.

Opinion, but informed, I'm just looking at all the angles and possibilities, and hey, I could be wrong, but way I see it, a massive part of the ballot is too see the potential franchises that are considered lower tier, but fans want to see, that also have a ton of potential for movesets and could bring something unique to the table. Smash is a celebration of Nintendo as a whole, but franchises get looked over, and this is a time where they can actually bring them back to the forefront. Also, it will provide a good contrast, they know they need a good appeal for the ballot and remaining dlc in order for the best movement. So contrasting someone from a used franchise and a new one is going to create the best response, and allow for the greatest variety. That's the way I see it

 

[Sirfishe]

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Nah, I think you guys aren't expecting ENOUGH DLC characters, I believe that the final roster, including DLC, will look something like this:

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EDIT: In all seriousness, 4-6 characters (6 characters might be pushing it a bit) sounds reasonable, with 2 or more probably being the minimum

Seeing huge, fan-made rosters like this takes me back.

 

[Bedoop]

How do I King K. Rool

 

[POKEMANSPIKA]

7.8/10 not enough characters.

0/10 Using mah jokes.

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I know I didn't create this joke

 

[StormC]

Opinion, but informed, I'm just looking at all the angles and possibilities, and hey, I could be wrong, but way I see it, a massive part of the ballot is too see the potential franchises that are considered lower tier, but fans want to see, that also have a ton of potential for movesets and could bring something unique to the table. Smash is a celebration of Nintendo as a whole, but franchises get looked over, and this is a time where they can actually bring them back to the forefront. Also, it will provide a good contrast, they know they need a good appeal for the ballot and remaining dlc in order for the best movement. So contrasting someone from a used franchise and a new one is going to create the best response, and allow for the greatest variety. That's the way I see it

You're overthinking it, I feel. They're looking for characters; that's what this ballot is about. Not games or franchises. Characters.

 

[AndreaAC]

So, a member of the Rayman Support Thread decided to take it upon herself to Raymanify some characters. The member's name is @ AndreaAC and she decided to make this for you Kutthroats. Enjoy!

:3 Thank you @ GaroMaster , for sharing my artwork, I didn't expected the drawing to be liked that much!

 

[GaroMaster]

:3 Thank you @ GaroMaster , for sharing my artwork, I didn't expected the drawing to be liked that much!

You're very welcome.

 

[Zombie Saurian]

People will hate anything that's popular just to seem cool.
See: Jurassic World.

Hey, JW is just legitimately bad, this is coming from a major JP fan and a writer.

 

[BKupa666]

Check this article on the K. Rool trademark out...I think it has a pretty good quote toward the end.

According to Attack of the Fanboy,many other surveys around the web asking people for their preferred Smash Brothers downloadable character rank King K. Rool as one of the most popular choices–which would mean Nintendo would have no good reason not to feature the overwhelmingly requested character.

No good reason, not the least of which involves K. Rool being smaller than the Smash Run Kremlings that already tower over their bigger enemy Donkey Kong.

 

[-crump-]

Man, it's times like this during the Smash speculation period that things are both the most tense and the most enjoyable, in some aspects. No (notable) leaks, no "insider info", just us, biting out nails in anticipation, armed with nothing but our hopes, dreams, and a shrivel of common sense, and fueled by the insane amount of hype and fear we're all sharing.

As stressful as it is, nothing is exciting as being on Mr. Sakurai's Wild Ride.

 

[CannonStreak]

Hey, JW is just legitimately bad, this is coming from a major JP fan and a writer.

I'd have to disagree. It was very good. Not great, but good. The people in the theater clapped when the movie ended. Now, if only they had King K. Rool somewhere in there...(I'm joking around about the K. Rool part)

 

[Bedoop]

Man, it's times like this during the Smash speculation period that things are both the most tense and the most enjoyable, in some aspects. No (notable) leaks, no "insider info", just us, biting out nails in anticipation, armed with nothing but our hopes, dreams, and a shrivel of common sense, and fueled by the insane amount of hype and fear we're all sharing.

As stressful as it is, nothing is exciting as being on Mr. Sakurai's Wild Ride.

That I can agree with
You don't even know how blissful I was when Dr. Mario was thrown into the real world
(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

 

[Diddy Kong]

So something like this? (courtesy of our friend @Thelimomon):

This is actually exactly what I'd want out of a 3D K.Rool model in Smash (in full HD of course), color me impressed @Thelimomon !!

Check this article on the K. Rool trademark out...I think it has a pretty good quote toward the end.



No good reason, not the least of which involves K. Rool being smaller than the Smash Run Kremlings that already tower over their bigger enemy Donkey Kong.

I think the fact that both DK64 and Jungle Climber are on the VC is a great sign for K.Rool. They are releasing a lot of important core titles of the overall Donkey Kong series in a row as of late I noticed... Are they checking and evaluating on the popularity of these titles so they can determine if K.Rool is still "relevant" enough to add to Smash? Are they trying to make him "relevant" more now that it's clear he's basically topping the ballot?

I think good things are a head actually. For both K.Rool in Smash, and DKC's future.

 

[Someguyyoulikelydontknow]

Hey, JW is just legitimately bad, this is coming from a major JP fan and a writer.

Opinionated opinion is opinionated. I liked Jurassic Word...

 

[POKEMANSPIKA]

Hey, JW is just legitimately bad, this is coming from a major JP fan and a writer.

Um, we talked about JW during its launch and bruh, did you not see King K. Rool.

courtesy of @Dustydog96

 

[UberPyro64]

Here K. Rool fans, Discuss this leak from 4chan. Point towards the leak is the stage does look downgraded like the other Melee stages.
But a point against it is that while the 3DS is a background like the directs, that would mean this would have been taken from a computer screen. But there is no glare. So that's confusing.

But what do you guys think?

 

[POKEMANSPIKA]

Here K. Rool fans, Discuss this leak from 4chan. Point towards the leak is the stage does look downgraded like the other Melee stages.
But a point against it is that while the 3DS is a background like the directs, that would mean this would have been taken from a computer screen. But there is no glare. So that's confusing.

But what do you guys think?

I like how the person took the "leak" picture at an angle to show off his photography "skills".

 

[SleuthMechanism]

that pic would be so easy to create with brawl mods and some minor image editing to be honest.(heck, great bay temple is one of the easiest stage hacks to find)

 

[dangeraaron10]

I thought it (JW) was pretty cynical and had more holes in its plot than a cheese grater. But the dinosaurs were cool, though I still prefer the robotic goodness of the original.

I didn't like it at all, but that is just me.

 

[Bedoop]

Here K. Rool fans, Discuss this leak from 4chan. Point towards the leak is the stage does look downgraded like the other Melee stages.
But a point against it is that while the 3DS is a background like the directs, that would mean this would have been taken from a computer screen. But there is no glare. So that's confusing.

But what do you guys think?

It could just be viewed from a DS itself ala eShop video or something

Sakurai really likes Melee all of the sudden
Mewtwo, Roy, and now (maybe) Great Bay
Strange