That reminds me, could someone edit this and the change the map to maybe a Smash Ball or the Smash logo?
What da ya think?
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K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread
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What da ya think?
King_K_Rules
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I just saw on Twitter that Gregg Mayles has a folder full of SNES DKC maps, the maps are of used and unused(!!!) levels. We should tweet him at https://twitter.com/Ghoulyboy to convince him to open it!
Nice job, bananija! It is perfect!
Nice job, bananija! It is perfect!
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Well, I wouldn't worry about K. Rool's relevancy that much. I mean, the Kritters, if I recall correctly, were not in any games for while, and they still appear in Smash Bros.' 3DS Smash Run mode. So, if the Kritters can be brought back like that, I don't see how it is that hard to make K. Rool a playable character. It shouldn't be that hard.
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I'm still confused, what info was in the leak and what does it have to do with K. Rool?
Also, it's worth noting that the last time Neo Zero and crew thought someone was reliable (i.e., "there's still hope for Ridley guys!" their "contact" was outright ****ing with them.)
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To be fair, Neo never really said he believed that guy, or that that's what the guy even said.
Just that it was a possibility extrapolated from what he had discussed with him.
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A military themed one would be fantastic in my opinion, and also plays into the industrialisation the Kremlings are known for. There are several name choices you could go for, but I'd probably go with the following:
Korp O Rool
Alternatively, Klown K Rool would be utterly terrifying and have a ton of moveset potential.
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This is absolutely superb.
I wonder if there are any other screenshots that would be good fodder for similar edits?
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Then what's different in this scenario, and how does NZ know they're related to the ESRB leaker/what makes them think that? If we can't discuss, someone PM me.
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Oh, there is no difference. None whatsoever.
I'm just clarifying that Neo didn't say that before, he was just telling us what he heard.
Regardless, that's neither here nor there. Until we know for certain that this leak is truey trueness / utterly fictitious, we should just focus on the Kampaign.
I think that this is the make-or-break moment for K. Rool. If Sakurai considers him and we know he's on the cards, then we know our efforts have paid off and we made a difference; regardless of whether he gets in or not, the thought will be on Sakurai's mind in future and Nintendo will be made very aware that K. Rool is indeed a very popular force to be reckoned with.
If he doesn't consider him, well, we will at least know where we stand. The Ridley fanbase ultimately got him to admit that he tried and failed with their favourite character, it would be good to know that Sakurai definitely doesn't care about K. Rool and it's not just that he doesn't notice our efforts.
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I'm still confused what the contents of the leak actually are, if anything; is it back a couple pages and I missed it? All I know so far is "random gamefaqs guy, Neo Zero has suspicions, and it *might* have something to do with K. Rool?" That last bit is purely speculation, but it's making me worry a bit, bringing back pre-Sm4sh vibes.
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The gist of it is that a source claims to have part of a shortlist listing who's up for consideration as DLC. Whether it's real or not, though, it tells nothing that wasn't known before - the long and the short of it is that some characters may or may not make it as DLC.
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To be more specific and add on to what Tortilla here is saying, the characters King K. Rool, Waluigi, Paper Mario, Chibi-Robo, Agent 3 (Inkling) and Takumaru I believe have been mentioned being from a list of 20 or so potential suggestions for DLC that was given to Sakurai's team by Nintendo. Even if this is completely, 100% legitimate, it said nothing we don't already know. The only thing we can glean form this, if true, is that K. Rool is in the cards, but this outright confirms no one for playability. Even so, these are just Nintendo's suggestions and Sakurai really does have the final say, though people DO speculate that Nintendo's word has more power now because DLC has to sell on individual character merits.
If it's hogwash we continue on as normal.
If it's true, then the King is in the Kards. So we just continue on as normal, supporting our King, voting and campaigning and we will not grow complacent and falter.
Edit: This "leak" is not exactly megaton worthy, and is incredibly "safe" for a leak. Because nothing has to be outright confirmed for it to be proven real. None of these characters are guaranteed and some characters not on the shortlist aren't excluded from being considered. It's only worthy of minor to average hype.
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Ok! Well, that's interesting if true, and basically just means we're on the right track and K. Rool has been noticed. Either way, we doin' good for the King.
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Anyone know how to get one of the K. Rool "smilies"? I've tried many variations of :rool:, :krool: and :kingkrool: with nothing.
I realized that, despite this entire time of being a Kutthroat I was never officially added to the support list. Are we no longer updating that because it's getting too big? If you still are, I would love to be added! I need to be an OFFICIAL Kutthroat!
I realized that, despite this entire time of being a Kutthroat I was never officially added to the support list. Are we no longer updating that because it's getting too big? If you still are, I would love to be added! I need to be an OFFICIAL Kutthroat!
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There's too many supporters to keep it updated.
As long as you support the king you're a Kutthroat!
Whether on the list or not, you still are one by supporting the great king. Still, you can have this.
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It will never get old.
Ever.
Ever.
No doubt about that! Even if the video did get old, that will not change the fact that nonetheless, you are one of us.
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Default king APPEARANCE, but uses abilities from all games. That said I'd not be against him holding the Blunderbuss at all times as long as he can use other abilities.
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Ahem.
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This man was the driving force as well as a vocal supporter of Duck Hunt in front of a whole bunch of deniers, including myself.Ahem.
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I actually remember people being amazed that the Duck Hunt Dog wasn't in Melee. It was something that people talked about at the time (an old web-comic even made reference to it back then) - people definitely asked for him, and they wanted him in for a really long time.Ahem.
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Cowboy Sheriff costume, with a name like Sheriff K. Rool, Waco K. Rool, or Kid K. Rool, I always thought the kremlings would look pretty cool as cowboys too and who wouldn't want to see them going "yee-haw!" while firing their pistols and shotguns at you? One of them could even use a whip lol.
I always thought Krazy K. Rool or Karny K. Rool sounded more maniacal and terrifying.. Anyway, here's your Kroc Clown.
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Ahem.
Honestly, I always thought that Duck Hunt made the most sense to bring back as a retro character due to his iconic status. Much moreso than Takamaru imo. I was surprised people weren't considering him more.
Also, hypothetically if alt costumes don't happen (which I doubt for K Rool) what colors would you guys make his palette swaps?
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We saw a lot of awesome colour swaps by Cyberwolf a while ago and there were some great alts of the Smashified art. Black K Rool would be the coolest in my opinion.
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It's an edit of the Smashified art. People just hotlink it from Imgur or whatever.
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WelP...so much for the Ballot.
If Sakurai is still gonna add the chars that he wants . . . .
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I'm now wondering whether K.Rool watches anime or not. He played video games in the cartoon iirc
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I would like to think that Sakurai will do his research, but I am seriously praying that K. Rool wouldn't be another slow heavyweight. Best case scenario, his dash would make him faster than Diddy, a la DKC2, but I could totally understand if he wasn't THAT fast. I still want him pretty fast though.
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In my moveset concept for K. Rool, he's fast, aggressive and extremely heavy (just below Bowser in terms of run speed, standard frame data and weight), though his "discharge" mechanic means he has to slow down when he's in zoning mode. I imagine his movement would be akin to Dedede's down-b in that mode, in that he can move and jump while charging, just that his speed is stunted during the charge.
I'm not sure how that would work in practice, though. I guess there's a precedent in PM Snake or Smash 4 R.O.B.: a zoner and trap-setter with great stage control options and decent mobility and speed on their close-range moves. If the discharge mechanic means he's weak by default and very powerful when fully charged, then his close-range moves would be used as a last resort or to keep troublesome rushdown fighters off of his case. In that sense, having fast and reliable close-range moves
The thing is, theory doesn't necessarily equate to practice. When the game first dropped, people were convinced that Bowser was unbeatable: a fast, weighty character with immense power and heavy armour? Then the meta developed and people realised that, hang on, Bowser has a ton of weaknesses that hold him back from being the top-tier terror we thought he'd be. Even though he has a ton of good options in theory, when you put everything together and test it out, it doesn't really work as a cohesive set.
That's why it's dangerous to examine moves in a vacuum. In theory, every character is great. You can detail any set out of context and make it sound jank (Ganondorf can kill in two hits but he needs to get the hard read or he's a sitting duck! Palutena has twelve unique moves but half of them are awful and her default set is near-useless!), yet in context, it can turn out to be underwhelming. K. Rool may sound intimidating in theory - ye gods! A fast, weighty zoner that can fight at close and far range! - but he could very easily fall apart when faced with a certain playstyle. I imagine reflectors would wreck him, while it'd be very hard to play catch-up with a character like Sonic or Sheik when you're essentially a giant mobile hurtbox.
In that sense, having a few reliable close-range moves is, debatably, necessary for K. Rool. Even an expert zoner / trapper like Snake or R.O.B. would crumble if they couldn't hold his own in a boxing match; plus, if R.O.B. has taught us anything, it's that having a huge hurtbox is a very dangerous weakness in any matchup.
In theory, K. Rool is the most broken character in the game, especially with the discharge mechanic: Bowser's weight, speed and power with Villager's projectile game? And he can charge his moves to become even stronger? JANK! JANK! JANK! JANK!
And then you stop and consider just what that means in practice:
- Huge hurtbox makes him combo food for smaller, quicker characters
- Focus on projectiles means he's easily countered by reflectors
- Discharge mechanic needs time to set up and can hurt him if he's reckless
- Traps also need time to set up and require good knowledge of the stage
- Close-range moves are strong and have good frame data on startup, yet enough endlag to nullify spam
- Even with a good recovery, his weight and size would make him easy to gimp
tl;dr - K. Rool would be broken as **** in theory, with enough noteworthy drawbacks in practice to keep him from being overpowered. Maybe about mid / high-mid-tier.
tl;dr pt. 2 - Max size / weight Mii Gunner. Try it and tell me it's jank.
I'm not sure how that would work in practice, though. I guess there's a precedent in PM Snake or Smash 4 R.O.B.: a zoner and trap-setter with great stage control options and decent mobility and speed on their close-range moves. If the discharge mechanic means he's weak by default and very powerful when fully charged, then his close-range moves would be used as a last resort or to keep troublesome rushdown fighters off of his case. In that sense, having fast and reliable close-range moves
The thing is, theory doesn't necessarily equate to practice. When the game first dropped, people were convinced that Bowser was unbeatable: a fast, weighty character with immense power and heavy armour? Then the meta developed and people realised that, hang on, Bowser has a ton of weaknesses that hold him back from being the top-tier terror we thought he'd be. Even though he has a ton of good options in theory, when you put everything together and test it out, it doesn't really work as a cohesive set.
That's why it's dangerous to examine moves in a vacuum. In theory, every character is great. You can detail any set out of context and make it sound jank (Ganondorf can kill in two hits but he needs to get the hard read or he's a sitting duck! Palutena has twelve unique moves but half of them are awful and her default set is near-useless!), yet in context, it can turn out to be underwhelming. K. Rool may sound intimidating in theory - ye gods! A fast, weighty zoner that can fight at close and far range! - but he could very easily fall apart when faced with a certain playstyle. I imagine reflectors would wreck him, while it'd be very hard to play catch-up with a character like Sonic or Sheik when you're essentially a giant mobile hurtbox.
In that sense, having a few reliable close-range moves is, debatably, necessary for K. Rool. Even an expert zoner / trapper like Snake or R.O.B. would crumble if they couldn't hold his own in a boxing match; plus, if R.O.B. has taught us anything, it's that having a huge hurtbox is a very dangerous weakness in any matchup.
In theory, K. Rool is the most broken character in the game, especially with the discharge mechanic: Bowser's weight, speed and power with Villager's projectile game? And he can charge his moves to become even stronger? JANK! JANK! JANK! JANK!
And then you stop and consider just what that means in practice:
- Huge hurtbox makes him combo food for smaller, quicker characters
- Focus on projectiles means he's easily countered by reflectors
- Discharge mechanic needs time to set up and can hurt him if he's reckless
- Traps also need time to set up and require good knowledge of the stage
- Close-range moves are strong and have good frame data on startup, yet enough endlag to nullify spam
- Even with a good recovery, his weight and size would make him easy to gimp
tl;dr - K. Rool would be broken as **** in theory, with enough noteworthy drawbacks in practice to keep him from being overpowered. Maybe about mid / high-mid-tier.
tl;dr pt. 2 - Max size / weight Mii Gunner. Try it and tell me it's jank.
Judging by Ryu, if they made K. Rool they'd put a lot of effort into him. I actually see him being Wario-esque; a heavy that doesn't play like a heavy. I can see him having odd movement or mechanics. I assume he wouldn't be another generic heavy, because if they do put him in, it'd be because they see some potential for him to be unique. If they can't envision him being anything other than a generic heavy they won't put him in the game.
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I love the OneyG reference added in there.
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fix'd.
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I'm now wondering whether K.Rool watches anime or not. He played video games in the cartoon iirc
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I don't know this is on topic,but can anyone make the one of us song go in reverse?
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a wrestling costume lol
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One aspect I haven't really mentioned that I think would be a nice addition for K Rool would be some strong shield pushback on some moves. This would make his stage control even more interesting if you could lay down a spiked cannonball and then push a shielding opponent into it to break their shield.
Obviously this would be for stronger attacks like F-Smash and Dash Attack but it'd be an exciting thing to have as an option. Given that I have these moves as one where K Rool travels forward as well, it would make them more punishable on block if you don't have the appropriate traps laid down so could be an easily balanced aspect of his character.
Obviously this would be for stronger attacks like F-Smash and Dash Attack but it'd be an exciting thing to have as an option. Given that I have these moves as one where K Rool travels forward as well, it would make them more punishable on block if you don't have the appropriate traps laid down so could be an easily balanced aspect of his character.
Finally after putting it off for over 10 years I have beaten DKC 1-3 and DK 64. As a kid I always watched my older brothers play the games but had never beaten any of them myself. The only one left for me to complete is Tropical Freeze.
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I'd be absolutely fine with that. Heck, if I was Sakurai I'd have given Bowser armour that depends on the knockback of each attack rather than percentage and tweaked it just enough that he eats Sheik alive whilst still losing to a fair share of characters, especially other heavies who hit hard enough to beat his armour.That wouls make K. Rool a hard counter to Luigi.
But oh well. Dreams can be dreams I guess.