K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[NonSpecificGuy]

I'm sorry but this is for requesting characters. That doesn't mean if you request a third-party character there's any guarantee they would get in. Snake's odds are extremely low precisely because the one person who enabled him to get in Brawl in the first place is practically getting kicked out of Konami.


I do agree that Dixie isn't THAT much of a competition for K. Rool, though.

Firstly, I never said he was guaranteed. Secondly, a day before, even as a huge Snake fan, I would have agreed with you. Now I don't know what to think though. If they are bringing back the cut veterans then that would mean, theoretically, Wolf would be released in August, then another (Let's say Ice Climbers) in October, then the Ballot ends, then what? will we have to wait 6 months to a year for another character? Something tells me that they have other characters already in development to fill these gaps. Maybe not six months but a few months of characters before development on the first ballot characters is finished.

This isn't even about Snake alone anymore, it's about how they plan to fill out these coming months after E3 with more characters to keep from losing fans of the series. Who would be in development to be released after Wolf? Snake? Ice Climbers? Isaac? King K. Rool? Ridley? There is so much new stuff to speculate about it's incredible.

 

[Dre89]

If veterans weren't counted in the poll, they probably would have told us that, or at least emphasised 'new' characters so they don't have to sift through thousands of illegitimate votes.

Also I think you guys are underrestimating Dixie. Dixie is likely more popular amongst Gen Z thanks to Tropical Freeze. She'd also be easier to make, which could be a factor if they're looking at doing more than one character at a time. She also has a a guaranteed future in the DK series, which could matter for marketability purposes.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Firstly, I never said he was guaranteed. Secondly, a day before, even as a huge Snake fan, I would have agreed with you. Now I don't know what to think though. If they are bringing back the cut veterans then that would mean, theoretically, Wolf would be released in August, then another (Let's say Ice Climbers) in October, then the Ballot ends, then what? will we have to wait 6 months to a year for another character? Something tells me that they have other characters already in development to fill these gaps. Maybe not six months but a few months of characters before development on the first ballot characters is finished.

This isn't even about Snake alone anymore, it's about how they plan to fill out these coming months after E3 with more characters to keep from losing fans of the series. Who would be in development to be released after Wolf? Snake? Ice Climbers? Isaac? King K. Rool? Ridley? There is so much new stuff to speculate about it's incredible.

No, I don't get why people keep assuming they're going to wait until the poll ends before doing any of these characters. I think its POSSIBLE they're working on another character other than Wolf. However, what they could easily do is check the poll results by E3, see whose at the top, pick the most requested candidate that's actually viable, and work on that character.


This poll ending in October DOES NOT mean they won't do ANYTHING requested in the poll until it ends. They can easily check the poll at various intervals and see who to do. All the time limit does is restrict approximately how long we can viably expect DLC to happen until--approximately one year from now.


I think they'd likely pick from the poll preliminary results long before the final tally comes into play. Wolf is pretty much a guarantee, but I don't think any other veterans will happen because Ice Climbers have a development problem keeping them out, we already have two Pokemon newcomers, none of the other Melee vets are anything interesting and Snake's odds are extremely slim due to the whole Kojima thing with Konami.


No, rather, they'd probably pick a character or two from the poll and work on that (or those) character(s) before the poll actually ends, release those characters in October, then work on additional characters for release in late Winter/Spring 2016.

 

[Zombie Saurian]

I'm with Jaidyn, I don't believe this poll is for just ONE character. It can't be. With all the votes they'll get, sorting through the legit ones it can be used to determine which characters are in demand.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Again, I'd say a minimum of THREE... and IN ADDITION TO Wolf. Wolf is a lock. No more than five.


I can plausibly see Wolf and one other announced at E3, another announced late Summer (around the time Wolf is released), another announced in October when the poll closes, and the final ones announced towards the beginning of 2016. If its only 3, then one alongside Wolf, one when the poll closes and the final in January/February.


Again, timing is key. If this was only going on for 2-3 months, I'd argue only 2-3 tops including Wolf. Since its going on until October, that guarantees they're considering this up until at least late Winter/Spring 2016 and have the intention of making several new characters (they wouldn't request characters if they just did veterans). So 3-5 in addition to Wolf.

 

[Oblivion129]

Guys, the hype! THE HYPE!
Out of the characters I want, King K. Rool probably has the best chance. I already voted for him and I hope we can spread the word through social media.
I know the Geno thread has some youtubers that are helping out, so I'm wondering if we have any big names we can talk to to help spread the word.

 

[The Animator]

I haven't been on in a while, just came by to say I voted for King K. Rool.

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

You better believe Nintendo has a list already made up. They have a list of possible characters sitting there and this pole is to reaffirm their idea of what the people want. They want a gaurentee that if they make a character they're going to get their monies worth from the work put in. This is a majorities rules pole. They compare the votes in to the to own ideas list and boom decide to make the character. K. Rool has never looked more possible.


However DK64 on the Eshop? All the DK games have been released by E3 every DK game in Nintendos library will be available to the masses. Why? New DK is coming K. Rool is back and he's coming to smash alongside the new game. That's my opinion.

 

[JaidynReiman]

You better believe Nintendo has a list already made up. They have a list of possible characters sitting there and this pole is to reaffirm their idea of what the people want. They want a gaurentee that if they make a character they're going to get their monies worth from the work put in. This is a majorities rules pole. They compare the votes in to the to own ideas list and boom decide to make the character. K. Rool has never looked more possible.


However DK64 on the Eshop? All the DK games have been released by E3 every DK game in Nintendos library will be available to the masses. Why? New DK is coming K. Rool is back and he's coming to smash alongside the new game. That's my opinion.

Personally I do think Diddy Kong Racing is very likely to happen later as well. Maybe it'll even be the big Christmas title in place of Zelda U (it wouldn't be the first time Diddy Kong Racing was pushed up to be a Christmas title). But a new DKC I think will happen on Nintendo's next main console.


With DK64 3D likely dead, though, could we see an actual sequel instead of a remake? That would be interesting.

 

[ShinyRegice]

Voted for the crocodile king. Here's what I wrote:

King K. Rool is one of the most recognizable Nintendo villains and has a lot to offer to Smash Bros. He's a super heavyweight with a lot moves to take inspiration from his boss fights, including crown tossing, cannonball fall and many blunderbuss attacks, giving him great potential to be unique. If done right, fighting him would really feel like you're fighting a video game boss. Also the Donkey Kong games he's featured in are finally available for Wii U download, so the timing is perfect.

I put the emphasize on what K. Rool has to offer to Smash Bros. in my post while not ignoring the popularity factor ("one of the most recognizable Nintendo villains"). "fighting him would really feel like you're fighting a video game boss" refers to K. Rool's weak points in DKC games (head after a crown toss in DKC1, vacuum blunderbuss in DKC2, and jetpack in DKC3), and I think it would be awesome if they translated in Smash - for example, crown toss makes you unable to move, vacuum blunderbuss makes you particularly weak to exploding items, and helicopter pack makes you fall helpless if you're hit from the back. And finally the "Donkey Kong games he's featured in are finally available for Wii U download" is a relevance marketability argument, as a mean to prove the character is interesting to implement from a Nintendo perspective and not only a fan one.

Edit: I voted and I went to a white page with the only thing written being "You are not allowed to access this page." What does that mean? Maybe it's because I'm located in France and I can't vote on the US page, so in this case I just have to translate all this text in French, which is not a problem as it's my native language but at the same time I believe the translation will possibly make the post longer than 500 characters.

 

[T-Hell]

I just voted for our king in the ballot you guys ^^

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

Personally I do think Diddy Kong Racing is very likely to happen later as well. Maybe it'll even be the big Christmas title in place of Zelda U (it wouldn't be the first time Diddy Kong Racing was pushed up to be a Christmas title). But a new DKC I think will happen on Nintendo's next main console.


With DK64 3D likely dead, though, could we see an actual sequel instead of a remake? That would be interesting.

I was reading some old interviews of Retro pre Tropical Freeze when they are discussing ideas they wanted to incorporate into TF but didn't get to due to time like more emphasis on the animal buddies and possible 3-D platforming. They mentioned how a "possible" future game in the series could be similar to Mario 3-D world being a hybrid of 2-D and 3-D. It's not impossible to think Retros new game could be in fact that DK. They could easily import the Kong models from TF aswell as some of the environmental textures. That would allow development to go a bit faster. They claimed they were working on new title in November 2 months before TF's release. It's very possible to be coming. Maybe Diddy Kong Racing is the title but a new DK is incredibly realistic. Heck maybe a fusion of DKC and DKR using the adventure style gameplay mixed with animal buddy racing

 

[JaidynReiman]

I was reading some old interviews of Retro pre Tropical Freeze when they are discussing ideas they wanted to incorporate into TF but didn't get to due to time like more emphasis on the animal buddies and possible 3-D platforming. They mentioned how a "possible" future game in the series could be similar to Mario 3-D world being a hybrid of 2-D and 3-D. It's not impossible to think Retros new game could be in fact that DK. They could easily import the Kong models from TF aswell as some of the environmental textures. That would allow development to go a bit faster. They claimed they were working on new title in November 2 months before TF's release. It's very possible to be coming. Maybe Diddy Kong Racing is the title but a new DK is incredibly realistic. Heck maybe a fusion of DKC and DKR using the adventure style gameplay mixed with animal buddy racing

I thought Retro confirmed that game had nothing to do with DK or Metroid. But maybe that was just an unvalidated rumor.

 

[DJDave189]

If King K. Rool does end up being playable and he ends up being really good, will any of you drop one of your main or secondaries for him? I'll probably drop King Dedede for him.

 

[Thelimomon]

If King K. Rool does end up being playable and he ends up being really good, will any of you drop one of your main or secondaries for him? I'll probably drop King Dedede for him.

Why drop someone when we can play as THEM ALL!?!

 

[AwesomeCauliflower68]

jesus christ you guys went through 5 pages today! rool's chances are looking incredible

 

[TheAnvil]

Well well well.

K. Rool's chances for Smash have genuinely rocketed. To the extent where I could legitimately class him as the most likely newcomer. There's absolutely no question that he is among the most requested characters, and I'm sure that the results of this ballot will reflect that. The only character who I can feasibly see getting more votes than him is Ridley, who is basically a lost cause as his in game role is already a thing.

I don't think any character stands to benefit from this ballot like K. Rool does.

But, I must stress to K. Rool fans, please consider also voting for Dixie Kong. We are all DK fans here, and I'm sure we all want as many DK characters as possible. This shouldn't be a case of Dixie vs. K. Rool, don't divide the fanbase like that, let's try and get them BOTH in.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Well well well.

K. Rool's chances for Smash have genuinely rocketed. To the extent where I could legitimately class him as the most likely newcomer. There's absolutely no question that he is among the most requested characters, and I'm sure that the results of this ballot will reflect that. The only character who I can feasibly see getting more votes than him is Ridley, who is basically a lost cause as his in game role is already a thing.

I don't think any character stands to benefit from this ballot like K. Rool does.

But, I must stress to K. Rool fans, please consider also voting for Dixie Kong. We are all DK fans here, and I'm sure we all want as many DK characters as possible. This shouldn't be a case of Dixie vs. K. Rool, don't divide the fanbase like that, let's try and get them BOTH in.

You're playing it out very well. I really dislike the situation where DK fans who want K. Rool in Smash more than Dixie are at war with DK fans who want Dixie first. And Vaanrose certainly hasn't helped it any... I'll see if I can find enough ways to vote where I can lay down a vote for Dixie as well.


Honestly, Dixie is the commonly suggested DLC character right now who I'm most worried about. Isaac and K. Rool I'd say look quite good, K. Rool far moreso. Krystal I'm less worried about than Dixie because Wolf is a near-guarantee as is and will most likely be announced at E3, so Krystal is bound to get a lot more requests.

Dixie has the biggest competition overall since there's no guarantee for K. Rool. A decent amount of DK fans want Dixie first, but K. Rool is the bigger deal, and with one vote each, a significant part of the DK vote will go to K. Rool.


Ideally, we'd get both Dixie and K. Rool. That's the most ideal situation. I am obligated to vote for K. Rool first, but I do want and like both of them.


Best-case scenario would be that, say, K. Rool does turn out to be the most requested character and he's announced at E3. This will allow fans who voted for K. Rool to then turn around and switch their vote to other characters like Dixie (assuming that if you vote multiple times from the same IP it switches your vote; I've heard this but its unconfirmed). If this happens that'd be good for Dixie Kong, but if it does not, that's where the problem lies.

So if possible, its definitely an advantage if many can vote for both.

 

[KingZing]

 

[Dre89]

If King K. Rool does end up being playable and he ends up being really good, will any of you drop one of your main or secondaries for him? I'll probably drop King Dedede for him.

Once I got over the hype of him being the game I wouldn't play him as much because heavies are just limiting and boring if you verse people of a certain level.

Dixie I could see myelf using more long-term. Even though she'd almost definitely be worse than Diddy competitively she'd probably still be mobile and have combos.

 

[The Legendary Beast]

Voted for the King.

Ridley seems unlikely to happen due to him being a stage boss. Although I am thinking of voting for him as well just in case.

Mewtwo is in the game so I got that wish fulfilled.

Wolf may come later so I'm not wasting my vote on him.

I'm also going to vote for Rayman later on.

 

[BowserK.Rool]

Once I got over the hype of him being the game I wouldn't play him as much because heavies are just limiting and boring if you verse people of a certain level.

Dixie I could see myelf using more long-term. Even though she'd almost definitely be worse than Diddy competitively she'd probably still be mobile and have combos.

Not with me. Plus I've gotten my butt kicked plenty of times online by people using Bowser and Charizard.

Diddy works fine to me, it really all depends on the player who's using the characters.

 

[DJDave189]

Not with me. Plus I've gotten my butt kicked plenty of times online by people using Bowser and Charizard.

Diddy works fine to me, it really all depends on the player who's using the characters.

Yep. That's true, there are some really good players that uses characters like Bowser, DK and other heavy weight's pretty well.

 

[ShinyRegice]

I finally voted. It was probably a temporary technical issue. I voted on the French website this time, and as DKC games are available for download in Europe since longer than America I removed the marketability-related sentence. It also freed up space for more words, especially given that French tends to use more characters than English to mean the same thing. I also put more emphasis on K. Rool's star power.

Now here's the English translation of what I wrote:

King K. Rool is one of the most famous Nintendo villains and marked a generation of gamers with his appearances in Donkey Kong Country games. He could fit very well in the Smash Bros. roster and his boss fights are a great inspiration source: the crown toss and cannonball rain (DKC1) or his numerous blunderbuss uses (DKC2), among others, would make him a unique character who would stand out from other heavyweights.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Threw my vote for K Rool, my brother voted Ridley (I miss you Ridley thread).

In all honesty, he has a good shot. I would say his key kompetition are (besides Wolf, he's a lock at this point).
Dixie Kong
Inkling
Ridley
Chorus Kids
Ice Climbers

 

[JaidynReiman]

Threw my vote for K Rool, my brother voted Ridley (I miss you Ridley thread).

In all honesty, he has a good shot. I would say his key kompetition are (besides Wolf, he's a lock at this point).
Dixie Kong
Inkling
Ridley
Chorus Kids
Ice Climbers

I see little chance of Chorus Kids or Ice Climbers being real serious competition. Ice Climbers have little chance of being playable due to technical difficulties and Chorus Kids? No one takes them seriously. If it was up to Sakurai to choose, maybe. But from popularity? Sorry, not even close. I haven't heard of anyone voting for Chorus Kids yet. Yes, there likely have been some. But no one I've heard on several different sites have even mentioned them as a prime vote.


Dixie Kong isn't really competition for K. Rool, either. Its more the other way around. Wolf is out of the competition all-together at this point since he's pretty much guaranteed that that wouldn't affect the poll.


I think Isaac is bigger competition for Rool than any of those characters save Ridley. And Ridley isn't possible. He'll probably get a decent number of votes, but he's basically set in stone at this point.

 

[Dustydog96]

Dude I love this picture. It's perfect for the time.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

So I voted for Roy first, and soon I'll be responding with K.Rool on the Wii U, then Rayman on my iPad Mini.

You can vote multiple times on any computer. It's not limited to one per device.

I'd recommend changing the "Why?" section if you are repeatedly voting for one character. Considering it would be impossible for the developers to read the explanation every single vote, the "Why?" section is most likely there to filter out identical posts.

 

[JaidynReiman]

You can vote multiple times on any computer. It's not limited to one per device.

I'd recommend changing the "Why?" section if you are repeatedly voting for one character. Considering it would be impossible for the developers to read the explanation every single vote, the "Why?" section is most likely there to filter out identical posts.

I think its been determined that only one vote actually counts regardless. They can track your IP address. Technically you can post multiple times, but they can track your IP address, so you'd need to change the IP to vote multiple times.


It -might- be the case that if you post multiple times it overrides your previous once. But that can't be confirmed for certain. I'd just say; if you vote for multiple characters, vote again for your most wanted character just in case it does overwrite your past versions.


Otherwise, just make multiple votes on different devices/computers.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Ahoy mates long time no see

And im helping out i voted for the king/captain

I think its been determined that only one vote actually counts regardless. They can track your IP address. Technically you can post multiple times, but they can track your IP address, so you'd need to change the IP to vote multiple times.


It -might- be the case that if you post multiple times it overrides your previous once. But that can't be confirmed for certain. I'd just say; if you vote for multiple characters, vote again for your most wanted character just in case it does overwrite your past versions.


Otherwise, just make multiple votes on different devices/computers.

No accually i learned it

You can vote more than once

You get banned temporary if you make too many votes too fast

I sure ip address doesn't matter

 

[JaidynReiman]

Ahoy mates long time no see

And im helping out i voted for the king/captain



No accually i learned it

You can vote more than once

You get banned temporary if you make too many votes too fast

I sure ip address doesn't matter

Being able to vote multiple times doesn't mean anything. Just because you CAN vote multiple times doesn't mean they all count. As I've heard, the Japanese site even explicitly states that only one vote will count.

 

[Epic Neal Time]

People who vote for Goku, Sora, etc. have to know they're basically throwing their votes away. Those characters will NOT make it, no matter how many votes that they get. We've gotta look at the few characters that are likely: first-party characters with large enough followings. I've voted for K. Rool and Wolf. I think those two are likely and I'd be happy with either. Wish people would understand the kind of mind-set that you need when voting.

#KrocTheVote

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

Plan to take advantage of living on a college campus to vote on multiple computers cause why not. Also downloading DKCTF as we speak

I agree with JR, I think we are going to get multiple newcomers from the voting, both because 2-3 announcements(one at E3, one at the end of voting, and probably one in August) would create a bigger effect, and allow them to gage interest over a longer period of time, and stagger development so they can put it out quicker

 

[Zzuxon]

Being able to vote multiple times doesn't mean anything. Just because you CAN vote multiple times doesn't mean they all count. As I've heard, the Japanese site even explicitly states that only one vote will count.

I doubt this, this would keep siblings living in the same household from each having a vote. I feel like Ninteno counts multiple votes.

 

[JaidynReiman]

People who vote for Goku, Sora, etc. have to know they're basically throwing their votes away. Those characters will NOT make it, no matter how many votes that they get. We've gotta look at the few characters that are likely: first-party characters with large enough followings. I've voted for K. Rool and Wolf. I think those two are likely and I'd be happy with either. Wish people would understand the kind of mind-set that you need when voting.

#KrocTheVote

Honestly, I'd even argue Wolf is kind of a waste of a vote... he's basically a guaranteed shoe-in right now.

I doubt this, this would keep siblings living in the same household from each having a vote. I feel like Ninteno counts multiple votes.

Most people nowadays have some sort of handheld device, so I don't see how this would be a problem.

 

[Zzuxon]

Honestly, I'd even argue Wolf is kind of a waste of a vote... he's basically a guaranteed shoe-in right now.



Most people nowadays have some sort of handheld device, so I don't see how this would be a problem.

I thought IP address was tied to your internet, which all those devices would use?

I agree with you about wolf though.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Being able to vote multiple times doesn't mean anything. Just because you CAN vote multiple times doesn't mean they all count. As I've heard, the Japanese site even explicitly states that only one vote will count.

they said they woulden't be able to check everyvote, they diden't say anything about your not allowed to do multiple votes.

I voted wolf first but im Sure they will look into king k rool vote (if mine counts or not)

 

[lelelelelel]

Guys, the hype! THE HYPE!
Out of the characters I want, King K. Rool probably has the best chance. I already voted for him and I hope we can spread the word through social media.
I know the Geno thread has some youtubers that are helping out, so I'm wondering if we have any big names we can talk to to help spread the word.

We have kawaiipiranha, cjzero... and... and... ***

 

[Epic Neal Time]

Honestly, I'd even argue Wolf is kind of a waste of a vote... he's basically a guaranteed shoe-in right now.

No one is a shoo-in anymore. Even if you think the character you want is going to make it, you still give them a vote. That's like not voting for a president because you're pretty sure your guy is going to win.

 

[JaidynReiman]

No one is a shoo-in anymore. Even if you think the character you want is going to make it, you still give them a vote. That's like not voting for a president because you're pretty sure your guy is going to win.

Wolf would be directly ported from Brawl extremely easily just like Lucas. Star Fox U is coming out as well. Wolf would've probably been the first obvious pick but we got Lucas announced instead.

I thought IP address was tied to your internet, which all those devices would use?

I agree with you about wolf though.

Each system gets its own IP address. Depending on the setup, SOMETIMES the same IP address would be used on the entire network, but that's rare and very specific to how the network was setup. In fact, having multiple computers in the same place with the same IP can cause serious problems in accessing the internet on multiple PC's and restrict access to certain sites or features.


No, in most circumstances every device on the network will have a different IP.


EDIT: Its more complicated than that even, it seems. A Wi-Fi network might have the same public IP, but each computer still has its own IP address. So I was correct, but the public IP may be the same depending on the setup. So I'm not exactly sure how this would be handled.