K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[SuperiorYoshi87]

So my gut feeling is were either getting a huge hype villains trailer before the game drops OR a new trailer featuring 2 newcomers from one game like the last one. The lack of a Ganondorf announcement makes me happy because I feel like all the bad guys are being held off for one villains trailer imagine it if you will DK, Mario, Samus, Fox, Pikachu, and Link fighting in that valley we saw in the announcement trailer when Bowsers foot stomps into the foreground. We see him standing there Wario, Wolf, and Ganon step out from behind and all the heroes line up to fight BOOM. The battle begins suddenly a screech is heard cue Ridley theme as he flies down from the sky straight for Samus cut to his splash screen and a short moves montage. Cuts back to the cgi battle as our heroes gain the upper hand a cannonball blasts by and the King Steps out of the smoke cue Gangplank Galleon theme and K.Rools splash screen and move montage. As they fight a purple glow shines and they all turn to see Mewtwo floating down in a psychic shield end.

Or we get a DK trailer featuring Dixie and K. Rool either way I hope it happens :3

 

[Gooper Blooper]

So my gut feeling is were either getting a huge hype villains trailer before the game drops OR a new trailer featuring 2 newcomers from one game like the last one. The lack of a Ganondorf announcement makes me happy because I feel like all the bad guys are being held off for one villains trailer imagine it if you will DK, Mario, Samus, Fox, Pikachu, and Link fighting in that valley we saw in the announcement trailer when Bowsers foot stomps into the foreground. We see him standing there Wario, Wolf, and Ganon step out from behind and all the heroes line up to fight BOOM. The battle begins suddenly a screech is heard cue Ridley theme as he flies down from the sky straight for Samus cut to his splash screen and a short moves montage. Cuts back to the cgi battle as our heroes gain the upper hand a cannonball blasts by and the King Steps out of the smoke cue Gangplank Galleon theme and K.Rools splash screen and move montage. As they fight a purple glow shines and they all turn to see Mewtwo floating down in a psychic shield end.

Or we get a DK trailer featuring Dixie and K. Rool either way I hope it happens :3

Honestly I would really hope for Kirby to be added to that trailer with Bandana Dee dropping in for some stabbity stabbing.... But lets be honest I will be utterly overjoyed if just K Rool gets in let alone the addition of Ridley and Mewtwo's return

LONG LIVE THE VILLAINS

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

Also, I don't know if all my fellow Kutthroats have heard or not but, Jakks Pacific? I think that's what they're called.....

Have teamed with Nintendo to make new toy lines for Nintendos IPs it's part of Mr. Iwatas plan to have the Nintendo brand commercialized more the list of IPs getting toy lines is INSANE Mario sure but F-Zero! Metroid! Donkey Kong! Pikmin! Just think aside from Amiibos we could see some awesome toys coming and dare I say it maybe King K. Rools triumphant return will be even more so! Imagine action figures and plushies of everyone's favorite Krokodile! Man I hope!

 

[aldelaro5]

I have a concern on him that I really don't get now.

Ridley got heavy tease for almost a year now.
Little Mac got 7 months under tease.

And as close as we are to release, KKR didn't got any tease going on.

That worries me because with how requested and popular he is, I expect him to at least have been teased since a good time now.

But we still haven't seen any DK stages yet.

I don't know, but it seems contradictory to hide stages and not teasing him when Sakurai should tease by stage reveal for how requested he is.

I'm I alone to be worried about his case just because of this? Then again, not seeing any DK stages may mean that it could be revealed in a trailer, but I still don't get why he wasn't teased.

 

[Gooper Blooper]

I have a concern on him that I really don't get now.

Ridley got heavy tease for almost a year now.
Little Mac got 7 months under tease.

And as close as we are to release, KKR didn't got any tease going on.

That worries me because with how requested and popular he is, I expect him to at least have been teased since a good time now.

But we still haven't seen any DK stages yet.

I don't know, but it seems contradictory to hide stages and not teasing him when Sakurai should tease by stage reveal for how requested he is.

I'm I alone to be worried about his case just because of this? Then again, not seeing any DK stages may mean that it could be revealed in a trailer, but I still don't get why he wasn't teased.

That is a very excellent point...

But i have to say in the end it probably doesn't matter TOO much.... i hope

 

[aldelaro5]

That is a very excellent point...

But i have to say in the end it probably doesn't matter TOO much.... i hope

I learned by experience that tease matters a lot.

When a character is under one, all the external stuff that would change his chances shouldn't even be considered and just focus on the tease. For example, if for some reasons, Pacman was teased, you would need to remove the third party factor as a decrease in chances. It doesn't matter if it WOULD make him a little more difficult to add because there's evidences pointing towards him being playable already.

Also, I think pacman wasn't tease since he was third party, but that may be fallacious to think so.

I just don't see him without tease if he was there. It might not mean much, but it seems to not follow with what Sakurai would do.

I mean, he could still be in, but that fact may change my expected roster because frankly, I'm doubtful.

 

[Banjodorf]

I mean, I don't think being teased is an absolute necessity. I mean, Greninja came out of the ****ing blue.

In addition, Shulk is a highly-requested newcomer from a new series, but we haven't seen anything even remotely Xenoblade-y yet, and even if he's not playable, to not have ANY Xenoblade content in Smash would be shocking.

I think it was said earlier in the thread, sometimes no news is good news. Sometimes teases are good news, but sometimes things happen without warning.

 

[aldelaro5]

I mean, I don't think being teased is an absolute necessity. I mean, Greninja came out of the ****ing blue.

In addition, Shulk is a highly-requested newcomer from a new series, but we haven't seen anything even remotely Xenoblade-y yet, and even if he's not playable, to not have ANY Xenoblade content in Smash would be shocking.

I think it was said earlier in the thread, sometimes no news is good news. Sometimes teases are good news, but sometimes things happen without warning.

Greninja was a tease and I don't think it was spotted that much.

It's me realizing how much tease we got from unexpected picks and usually, expected one are the strongest (it works by selected targeting, it;s made for the supporters).

So, that's why I'm worried on him specifically. Shulk I may agree could be ok without, but not sure here.

EDIT: if seeing xenoblade rep is even expected, that may means a lot in the following days actually.

 

[Banjodorf]

Greninja was a tease and I don't think it was spotted that much.

It's me realizing how much tease we got from unexpected picks and usually, expected one are the strongest (it works by selected targeting, it;s made for the supporters).

So, that's why I'm worried on him specifically. Shulk I may agree could be ok without, but not sure here.

EDIT: if seeing xenoblade rep is even expected, that may means a lot in the following days actually.

I don't expect to see anything Xenoblade-related before Shulk's reveal because if he's playable that's kind of a huge giveaway, unless of course it's just him as an AT. (Pls Sakurai no.)

I stand by what I said about no news being good news though. I think it's more of a boon that we haven't seen a DK stage yet, but honestly I have nothing to back that up, I'm just standing on a different side of the field than you.

The next month is going to be interesting!

 

[CJ Falcon]

I have a concern on him that I really don't get now.

Ridley got heavy tease for almost a year now.
Little Mac got 7 months under tease.

And as close as we are to release, KKR didn't got any tease going on.

That worries me because with how requested and popular he is, I expect him to at least have been teased since a good time now.

But we still haven't seen any DK stages yet.

I don't know, but it seems contradictory to hide stages and not teasing him when Sakurai should tease by stage reveal for how requested he is.

I'm I alone to be worried about his case just because of this? Then again, not seeing any DK stages may mean that it could be revealed in a trailer, but I still don't get why he wasn't teased.

No tease? What are you saying? The fact that we haven't seen much things DK-related IS a tease. If that's not good enough for you, look at the Kremlings in Smash Run. Why weren't they ever pointed out? Is that not a tease?

EDIT: Plus you're acting like Ridley is 100% confirmed and we know that's not true.

 

[TheSarcasticGuy]

If that's not a tease then I don't know what is.

 

[T-Hell]

I see that some of you guys also consider the potential villain trailer. That's something that occurred to me suddenly one day talking to a friend of mine, and I would freakin' love that. Although I don't see it happening.. but let's just see what Sakurai brings to the fans he is supposed to have listened to.

 

[aldelaro5]

No tease? What are you saying? The fact that we haven't seen much things DK-related IS a tease. If that's not good enough for you, look at the Kremlings in Smash Run. Why weren't they ever pointed out? Is that not a tease?

...

Ok, let me explain what it needs to be a tease.

You need to have provided information material that have a hidden message. The message is hidden because it only works for people who care about the character. The thing is, it would have to be so hidden that if you don't have what it needs to get the message, there's a good chance that you may imply a belief that wasn't mentioned or not clear. Ridley for example is his role, that's why it's the core of the tease. This belief would have to contradict the tease to deny it.

The Kremlings doesn't tell where the repping would end from an evidences. I agree that it helps, but it's far from teasing since I don't see how it's hidden because it doesn't seem to hide anything.

If you want a good one, trophy theory. Good example of something that is hidden.

 

[Banjodorf]

If that's not a tease then I don't know what is.

...And how the flying **** did we forget about that!?

 

[CJ Falcon]

...

Ok, let me explain what it needs to be a tease.

You need to have provided information material that have a hidden message. The message is hidden because it only works for people who care about the character. The thing is, it would have to be so hidden that if you don't have what it needs to get the message, there's a good chance that you may imply a belief that wasn't mentioned or not clear. Ridley for example is his role, that's why it's the core of the tease. This belief would have to contradict the tease to deny it.

The Kremlings doesn't tell where the repping would end from an evidences. I agree that it helps, but it's far from teasing since I don't see how it's hidden because it doesn't seem to hide anything.

If you want a good one, trophy theory. Good example of something that is hidden.

Oh sure. I get it. Everything works the way you says it does. Just make up stuff like that. Makes a lot of sense. not

 

[Banjodorf]

Look. I get it. "What if the Kremlings don't mean anything, and we aren't getting another DK rep?"

At the end of the day, it's still a tease for a Kremling presence of some kind, and an outright statement of one. (Because I dunno, there's ****ing Kremlings on the screen.) Objectively. Worrying about it, when we now actually have something to cite is just paranoia.

Either K. Rool's playable, or he isn't, and we're going to know the answer to that in less than a month, most likely.

 

[aldelaro5]

Look. I get it. "What if the Kremlings don't mean anything, and we aren't getting another DK rep?"

At the end of the day, it's still a tease for a Kremling presence of some kind, and an outright statement of one. (Because I dunno, there's ****ing Kremlings on the screen.) Objectively. Worrying about it, when we now actually have something to cite is just paranoia.

Either K. Rool's playable, or he isn't, and we're going to know the answer to that in less than a month, most likely.

That, I have to agree. It's true that it helps getting more rep which does help playable.

it's just that not seeing him playable but seeing the kremlings isn't something I would call to be abnormal. It opens more possibilities while a tease suggests a specific outcome.

That's what I meant. It's like a music. It does helps repping, but music existed previously without playable so the info itself isn't a tease.

In fact, I think tease by stage reveal is used multiple time because it can mean a lot. Even without tease it boosts chances, but with one, it;s even better since if the stage has a specific relation to KKR, it suggest a specific outcome.

Subjective, but that's what I meant by tease.

 

[Gooper Blooper]

Honestly though the Kremlings are better indicator in my opinion than I had originally thought...
I mean Kremlings are too K Rool as Waddle Dees are to King Dedede and koopas are to Bowser... My personal opinion is that it kinda indicates K Rool will make some sort of appearance though its not indicative of him being a character

 

[a Link to the Forums]

Personally, I don't see the Kremlings teasing K Rool at all. It boosts his chances no doubt because they aren't getting outshined by more recent enemies in the DK series. But at the same time, Kremlings are by far the most iconic DK enemies you can get so it's not really a surprise that they are in.

Something that is a tease is similarly the polar bear from Ice Climbers appearing in Smash Run. That confirms Ice Climbers are getting some sort of representation and suggests Ice Climbers are returning for this iteration.


Though, how much the Kremlings raise K Rool's chances is totally opinionated. I don't really but I can understand why other people do. Once we start seeing more representation in the retro DK games, then I think we can start making strong ties with K Rool.

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

Personally, I don't see the Kremlings teasing K Rool at all. It boosts his chances no doubt because they aren't getting outshined by more recent enemies in the DK series. But at the same time, Kremlings are by far the most iconic DK enemies you can get so it's not really a surprise that they are in.

Something that is a tease is similarly the polar bear from Ice Climbers appearing in Smash Run. That confirms Ice Climbers are getting some sort of representation and suggests Ice Climbers are returning for this iteration.


Though, how much the Kremlings raise K Rool's chances is totally opinionated. I don't really but I can understand why other people do. Once we start seeing more representation in the retro DK games, then I think we can start making strong ties with K Rool.

Yes it is true Kremlings are iconic DK enemies however the Kritters in Smash Run are considered a tease for K.Rool mostly due to their overall relevancy currently. Unlike Koopas, Waddle Dees, Space Pirates, ect. Who have been in almost every game of their respective series the Kremlings have taken a back seat almost to the point of where they can't be seen as iconic anymore. There's a whole generation of gamers current who probably don't even know who the Kremlings are due to their lack of appearences in the DK titles as of late. Yea they appeared in Jungle Climber, Barrel Blast and Super Sluggers but that's about it and those games easily flew under the radar of most gamers. The greater DK titles like Jungle Beat, DKCR, and DKCRTF have all been devoid of anything Kremling based. Their last real appearance as far as I'm concerned was DK64 and that was about 15 years ago, seeing Kremlings in Smash Run was a major surprise to me. Thing is it's hard to imagine Kremlings having a role but K.Rool being absent which is why it's seen as such a tease. Kritters being there is showing Sakurai isn't ignoring them like it seems Nintendo has been lately so if the Kritters aren't being ignored then id be hard pressed imagine K.Rool would.


Not trying to say your wrong for feeling they don't point towards K.Rool just explaining why I think they do.

 

[TheSarcasticGuy]

By the way, would you guys mind if I become one of you? Ever since Waluigi was disconfirmed, K. Rool has been my most wanted newcomer.

 

[KingZing]

By the way, would you guys mind if I become one of you? Ever since Waluigi was disconfirmed, K. Rool has been my most wanted newcomer.

Of course, welcome!

 

[JaidynReiman]

So my gut feeling is were either getting a huge hype villains trailer before the game drops OR a new trailer featuring 2 newcomers from one game like the last one. The lack of a Ganondorf announcement makes me happy because I feel like all the bad guys are being held off for one villains trailer imagine it if you will DK, Mario, Samus, Fox, Pikachu, and Link fighting in that valley we saw in the announcement trailer when Bowsers foot stomps into the foreground. We see him standing there Wario, Wolf, and Ganon step out from behind and all the heroes line up to fight BOOM. The battle begins suddenly a screech is heard cue Ridley theme as he flies down from the sky straight for Samus cut to his splash screen and a short moves montage. Cuts back to the cgi battle as our heroes gain the upper hand a cannonball blasts by and the King Steps out of the smoke cue Gangplank Galleon theme and K.Rools splash screen and move montage. As they fight a purple glow shines and they all turn to see Mewtwo floating down in a psychic shield end.

Or we get a DK trailer featuring Dixie and K. Rool either way I hope it happens :3

This. The fact is, if we aren't getting a Villains Trailer, I'd say hands-down that Ganondorf would've been announced to coincide with his Hyrule Warriors announcement, or next week at the HW release. And they could still do a Villains Trailer next week, as well.

That said, considering the lack of DK content, I think a separate DK trailer is incredibly likely as well.

 

[The Flying Brick]

With the absence of any notable news so far, my hype hasn't been as unhealthy as it used to be. Still, I'm not giving up hope that Sakurai's saving the best for last! (And by best, I mean either K. Rool or Shulk) (Preferably K. Rool)

 

[toadster101]

 

[NatP]

Damn, this action figure just got released right?

 

[CJ Falcon]

K-..........K-K-..........Ki-.........................KING K. ROOL!?!?!?!?!?

 

[JaidynReiman]

W-woah! Wait... they frickin mention K. Rool?!? SERIOUSLY?!

Holy hell... This... this bodes VERY well for K. Rool! Damn!

 

[sbdipp]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that DK's trophy description from Brawl?

 

[T-Hell]

Sadly that doesn't mean anything, as Waluigi is there as a toy but he is assist trophy. But yeah, I see the point and I really hope this is just a step closer to him debuting.

 

[CJ Falcon]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that DK's trophy description from Brawl?

Oh yeah, it is now that I remember.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Sadly that doesn't mean anything, as Waluigi is there as a toy but he is assist trophy. But yeah, I see the point and I really hope this is just a step closer to him debuting.

Its not really about K. Rool being playable or anything. Its that they actually MENTION K. Rool to begin with. THAT is what is interesting.

There's no mention of an actual K. Rool figure, though. Of course, this is Series 1.

 

[toadster101]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that DK's trophy description from Brawl?

Yes, but they didn't have to use it. They could have omitted the part with K. Rool in it, or used his Melee trophy description instead.

 

[IVIr.G]

Even though its only the trophy description from Brawl and might not mean too much, it's still oddly reassuring to see K.Rool's featured on an official Nintendo product.

 

[CJ Falcon]

Its not really about K. Rool being playable or anything. Its that they actually MENTION K. Rool to begin with. THAT is what is interesting.

There's no mention of an actual K. Rool figure, though. Of course, this is Series 1.

I think what's interesting is the fact that the target audience for this toy would be kids yet it for some reason mentions a character that most kids don't know about. It might just be wishful thinking, but maybe K. Rool is expected to become known again in some big way?

 

[Juliusaurus]

It's certainly more reassuring than seeing K. Rool's name mentioned on the recent DVD releases of the DKC cartoon show. It's just nice to know Nintendo doesn't want to shove away K. Rool and the Kremlings and pretend they never existed.

 

[King_K_Rules]

They mentioned K. Rool on the back of DK's amiibo??!?!?!!

So much for "lol nintendo is trying to bury the character, they hate him!"

Im so excited now!!!

 

[The Flying Brick]

And with that, my excitement has risen again. Not quite to the level that it was when Little Mac was announced, but enough to sustain me for another week or so. Thanks, bud!

 

[toadster101]

They mentioned K. Rool on the back of DK's amiibo??!?!?!!

So much for "lol nintendo is trying to bury the character, they hate him!"

Im so excited now!!!

No, but this is an officially licensed Jakks Pacific action figure, so Nintendo could have asked them to change the description if they really wanted to. The fact that K. Rool's name even appears at all is reason to get excited.

 

[Raxxel]

They mentioned K. Rool on the back of DK's amiibo??!?!?!!

So much for "lol nintendo is trying to bury the character, they hate him!"

Im so excited now!!!

This isn't DK's amiibo, fyi, it's his toy in a series of Mario toys. Seeing K. Rool mentioned though does bring hope.