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K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

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So who wants to bet that we'll get an Amiibo leak that gives us a K. Rool figure? Happened very recently with Disney Infinity where Toys R Us listed figures for currently-unrevealed Tinker Bell and Donald Duck. Who's to say we won't get a leak that way through a website's catalog confirming K. Rool, Ridley, Mewtwo, Bandana Dee, Takamaru, etc. Amiibos?
Hadn't really thought about that, honestly. I could see us learning about the final roster if they ship out the Amiibo's before the 3DS version drops.
 

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Oh no no no, guys, guys, Wii Fit clearly was a groundbreaking, new and original Nintendo IP! She totally deserved to be in Smash since she had such a strong personality and popularity! /obvious sarcasm




Yeah, Ganondorf is the only true villain in Brawl. The other "bad guys" are more anti-heros. Well, maybe Wolf could also be considered a minor villain.
Wolf is more anti-villain, but he's definitely the closest you can come to for a potential Smash Bros. villain from Star Fox. Wolf is far more villain than hero, but like a lot of villains he does work with the heroes from time to time. Andross really is the Star Fox main villain, and Wolf is a hired mercenary who will do anything for money, which could put him with or against the heroes.

Wolf is probably more villain than Dedede, but not more than Bowser. With K. Rool and Ridley we'd have two more fully-fledged villain characters.
 

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Wolf is more anti-villain, but he's definitely the closest you can come to for a potential Smash Bros. villain from Star Fox. Wolf is far more villain than hero, but like a lot of villains he does work with the heroes from time to time. Andross really is the Star Fox main villain, and Wolf is a hired mercenary who will do anything for money, which could put him with or against the heroes.

Wolf is probably more villain than Dedede, but not more than Bowser. With K. Rool and Ridley we'd have two more fully-fledged villain characters.
Wolf is the Boba Fett to Andross' Emperor.
 

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Wolf is the Boba Fett to Andross' Emperor.
...I guess that's a good comparison. Wolf really is more villain than hero. That said even he has some standards, since he kicked both Andrew and Pigma from Star Wolf.
 

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Wolf is sort of like Magneto. He essentially stands for the exact opposite of Star Fox, but has worked with them at times, really only to save his own life.
 

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...I guess that's a good comparison. Wolf really is more villain than hero. That said even he has some standards, since he kicked both Andrew and Pigma from Star Wolf.
Yeah, wolf is a villain but he's not malicious or out to hurt people. He just wants to take care of himself and get paid. I mean, he doesn't care about collateral damage or doing what's right, but he's not going to go around kicking puppies for fun either.
 

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Wolf and MetaKnight are kind of anti-heroes. Also not unlike Wario. Hell, even Bowser worked with Mario and Luigi in occasions. K.Rool would be the biggest bad in terms of villains we'd have as playable. Probably on par with Ganondorf.
 

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K. Rool would only be the bigger bad if Ridley isn't in the game also. :p
 

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*checks forum index*

NO WAY is the Dixie thread overtaking this one for being "top of the page" ;)

Anyway. If K. Rool got it, do you think he'll have his signature voice and weapons, or just be feral and beast-like like Bowser?
 

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*checks forum index*

NO WAY is the Dixie thread overtaking this one for being "top of the page" ;)

Anyway. If K. Rool got it, do you think he'll have his signature voice and weapons, or just be feral and beast-like like Bowser?
I want him to have his darth vader/dr. claw like voice from dk64, that one's my favorite and for weapons, the crown toss sounds good but I don't know how that would fair well if he has his pirate and mad scientist gimmicks as alternate costumes. I defintley hope he has a blunderbuss though and his ability to make cannonballs fall from the sky.
 
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Bowser isn't beast like in this game.

Really, if K. Rool is added we can rest assured that if will get a proper treatment. It's quite obvious with how the movesets have been handled this time.
 

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Well, I DO love his dark, evil voice. ;D It's so badass and intimidating. Even K. Rool himself LOOKED every bit as badass in that game.
 

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I was just thinking about one thing. Remember how it was said that Palutena also got more custom moves than the rest of the cast, like the Mii Fighters? I thought that K.Rool probably could have more moves than others as well, thanks to his many 'personalities'! And even better, make Amiibus for all the other K.Rools to! For example, King K.Rool would be the Amiibu with the most Attack power and moves like the Crown Toss, Belly Flop, High Drop, Canon Ball Drop Down. Kaptain K.Rool could be the K.Rool version with the most Speed. And have moves with the Blunderbuss, and different gasses, and canon balls (spikey ones, barrels, normal ones). Baron K.Roolenstein would be most Defense orientated, and have great recovery with his jetpack, and use various electric- based moves.
 

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Bowser isn't beast like in this game.

Really, if K. Rool is added we can rest assured that if will get a proper treatment. It's quite obvious with how the movesets have been handled this time.
Sorry, meant Melee/Brawl Bowser. This one has me hyped. :p
 

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Well, I DO love his dark, evil voice. ;D It's so badass and intimidating. Even K. Rool himself LOOKED every bit as badass in that game.
I don't know, I prefer K. Rool's voice in the kartoon. He sounds like an unpredictable mad genius where you can't tell if he's sane or not, but regardless you know he can take you out whenever the heck he wants and he'll laugh manically all the way.
 

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I was just thinking about one thing. Remember how it was said that Palutena also got more custom moves than the rest of the cast, like the Mii Fighters? I thought that K.Rool probably could have more moves than others as well, thanks to his many 'personalities'! And even better, make Amiibus for all the other K.Rools to! For example, King K.Rool would be the Amiibu with the most Attack power and moves like the Crown Toss, Belly Flop, High Drop, Canon Ball Drop Down. Kaptain K.Rool could be the K.Rool version with the most Speed. And have moves with the Blunderbuss, and different gasses, and canon balls (spikey ones, barrels, normal ones). Baron K.Roolenstein would be most Defense orientated, and have great recovery with his jetpack, and use various electric- based moves.
In light of this idea, let's add all Special Moves from all K.Rool identities using this as a base:

 

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Just a theory, but maybe they're saving the fan favorites for DLC so that some hype for the Wii U version can be drummed up in the period after the 3DS version has come out.
 

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Just a theory, but maybe they're saving the fan favorites for DLC so that some hype for the Wii U version can be drummed up in the period after the 3DS version has come out.
I can't even imagine the amount of backlash that would cause since DLC announcements before a game comes out is highly frowned upon, unless you mean after the Wii U game comes out.
 
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The only thing I can think of for DLC is that they're thinking "ok, if we can't finish these characters before release, we'll put them out as DLC instead." It never even stated if the DLC is paid at all. Granted, they might still include some paid DLC, perhaps for characters who aren't as much of fan favorites but were still popular. For example, DLC to bring Roy back.


In light of this idea, let's add all Special Moves from all K.Rool identities using this as a base:

Even in K. Rool's case his abilities could be changed up instead of having entirely alternate attacks.


I always saw K. Rool's specials like this:
Up+B: Kopter
Side+B: Kannon
Neutral+B: Krown
Down+B: ?? (my favorite idea is "Kredits," where he just falls over and plays dead)


So, that said, let's take a look.


Kopter:
I can't really think of anything for this one really. Perhaps one version increases his movement speed but deals less damage, and another version sprays electricity (like in the battle) which can shock people if it hits them, also stunning them temporarily. However, the electric version is shorter.

Kannon:
Easy. One version sprays cannonballs, another sprays gas, and another sprays fire.

With the fire version, K. Rool would just spray fire and move along the ground or through the air just like he does in the K. Rool battle. Not much of an attack, though the longer you hold it the greater the fire gets and faster he moves.

For cannonballs, K. Rool shoots a cannonball. Depending on how long the button is held, the further the cannonball will go and the further K. Rool falls backwards. When fully charged a spiked cannonball will shoot out instead, but if overcharged it will blow up in K. Rool's face.


Krown:
Throws his crown, obviously. One version could have him throwing his boxing gloves instead. Another version could maybe be him throwing a cannonball which rolls really fast, but I'm not sure about that.


Down+B:
Well, if the default version is K. Rool just falling over, another one could be him actually butt bouncing the ground. I don't really know about this one.


I also envisioned K. Rool's "second" jump to be his "flapping" animation from K. Roolenstein's boss while his default jump is just the original jump from DKC.
 

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K. Rool could certainly have unique move options for each Special like Palutena, although I think, if that approach were going to be taken, the stance-changing idea where he switches between costumes would be best.
 

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'Eh, I think K. Rool's costumes should just be reskins and not linked to anything, and he just has his blunderbuss he pulls out for the attacks he needs it for, same with his helicopter where he just pulls it out when he needs it. He can use moves from all of his boss battles without switching at all.
 

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K. Rool could certainly have unique move options for each Special like Palutena, although I think, if that approach were going to be taken, the stance-changing idea where he switches between costumes would be best.
Orrrr...

If you switch between K.Rool Amiibu!

King K.Rool would be the standard one though.
 

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Well, speaking of K. Rool-related purchases, let's bring out the DLC topic.

Do you think K. Rool is the sort of character who could become DLC if he's not playable? Would you buy playable K. Rool DLC if it happened?
 
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I kan kertainly see K. Rool's kustomization options for his blunderbuss being just straight-up kannonballs, bouncing/spiky persistent kannonballs or the clouds that reverse kontrols. Also, it seems like there kould be multiple options for the side-special... We'll see though.
Well, speaking of K. Rool-related purposes, let's bring out the DLC topic.

Do you think K. Rool is the sort of character who could become DLC if he's not playable? Would you buy playable K. Rool DLC if it happened?
If that happened, I'd buy it anyway but I'd kertainly be a bit annoyed by it. Honestly though, I feel like he'd at the very least be a secret karacter.
(Wow, this post had a lot of c's to turn into k's.)
 
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I think that K. Rool could become DLC if not playable, being popular worldwide. And, of course I would buy playable K. Rool DLC.
 

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Well, speaking of K. Rool-related purchases, let's bring out the DLC topic.

Do you think K. Rool is the sort of character who could become DLC if he's not playable? Would you buy playable K. Rool DLC if it happened?
No I doubt he'd be DLC if he's not in the game, unless he doesn't have any other sort of role going on (like, boss, AT, whatever). Dixie Kong seems like a much better DLC choice, due to her being overall less wanted, as well as possibly quite similar to Diddy (limiting the resources needed to make her).

However, I'd buy the pack I guess. If I finally got all the money for a Wii U, I think it won't matter me too much paying for one DLC pack, or more.
 

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Well, speaking of K. Rool-related purchases, let's bring out the DLC topic.

Do you think K. Rool is the sort of character who could become DLC if he's not playable? Would you buy playable K. Rool DLC if it happened?
I'd be annoyed, but hell yes I'd buy him. As for him being a character who could become DLC... eh, I think they'd try and get him in the game first. I think there's a few characters we still don't know about that didn't get leaked out and since K. Rool wouldn't promote any recent or upcoming games, he'd be one who wouldn't be promoted as much (kinda like Ridley and Isaac).

Dixie Kong I think would be more likely to be DLC than K. Rool, though, especially due to the high chance she'd be a semi-clone of Diddy (roughly the same model, and although her moves would look unique, they may still play similar to Diddy except for her not having jet barrels). Either way, if either one of them were DLC I'd probably buy them, though one at a time.
 

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I'd buy him. But only him since a) he's all I wanted out of the roster, and b) I hate paid DLC (it's annoying)
 

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I think if anything they'd make DLC characters of "popular" picks, but ones who aren't as popular to cause such a controversy. For example, Jigglypuff, Lucas, Roy, and Dixie Kong. Perhaps even Ivysaur and Squirtle.
 
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If he was DLC, I would buy him in an instant...
Though, I doubt that he will be DLC. He would definitely make it for the initial release.
 

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I just want K. Rool, man.

...Yes, I have no clue how to make deep and interesting posts about how much I freakin' want K. Rool.
 

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It's been awhile since i've heard about K Rool. He would make a interesting playable character. But I do wonder, would he or Dixie or neither be playable in this game. I mean, Dixie has appeared in the recent game while K Rool hasn't appeared since that Mario Baseball game for the Wii. But I wouldn't mind K Rool being in this too.

Anyways he might have a chance, considering we have kremlings and Chunky Kong (if he is actually real) as a assist trophy. But with that Gemastu leak, things are looking a bit shaky for him. But I wouldn't mind seeing him in. I would love to try him out since he has potential to be a good character.

Good luck guys. I wish you guys the best luck for the King.
 

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K. Rool is exactly the type of character that could/would/should be DLC, alongside Ridley, Mewtwo, Toad, and Bandana Dee due to their large popularity and relevance and importance to both their series and Nintendo as a whole, if he was not in the main roster. And I don't know if I'd buy him, considering I have no money, haha; but I would definitely get him because he deserves to be in Smash Bros.
 

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It's been awhile since i've heard about K Rool. He would make a interesting playable character. But I do wonder, would he or Dixie or neither be playable in this game. I mean, Dixie has appeared in the recent game while K Rool hasn't appeared since that Mario Baseball game for the Wii. But I wouldn't mind K Rool being in this too.

Anyways he might have a chance, considering we have kremlings and Chunky Kong (if he is actually real) as a assist trophy. But with that Gemastu leak, things are looking a bit shaky for him. But I wouldn't mind seeing him in. I would love to try him out since he has potential to be a good character.

Good luck guys. I wish you guys the best luck for the King.
Gematsu doesn't have all the answers. I think there's a lot of evidence to suggest K. Rool could be playable, but we'll have to see. Just the fact that he included Kremlings is a major factor.

As for K. Rool or Dixie, here's how I see it. He plans to do both. K. Rool has higher priority, and Dixie has lower priority. Dixie might be cut if they've got complications with other characters, but neither would be outright ignored, and they wouldn't hurt each other's chances at all. K. Rool is way more requested than Dixie as a whole, but both are the "next logical" suggestions for the DK franchise and DK had a HUGE boost in popularity with Returns. K. Rool is highly likely to come back in the next DKC game as well, so this game would be a way to bring him back into the spotlight again in time for the next DK game in a few years (probably not done by Retro).

Just my take on it. I think K. Rool wasn't leak because the leaks were from marketing; they're marketing characters who have been in recent titles, while K. Rool and Ridley are major antagonists and popular choice, they wouldn't be marketed heavily because Other M failed miserably and K. Rool didn't appear recently. Instead, they'd be unlockable, and likewise, not really marketed.
 
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