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K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

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"Why does everyone like K. Rool? He's always the same old, boring, heavyweight villain, not like Tiki Tong or Lord Frederick. They represent what's new and trendy, why don't you K. Rool fans get over it, for real?"
 

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Seeing that I made the Lord Fredrik thread, I wonder if I should copy the K. Rool movesets in the OP to that thread. :p

"K. Rool will never be playable! Lord Fredrik can do whatever he did and is cooler (pun intended) than him."
 
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"K. Rool can't get in Smash. He dressed like a captain and a scientist, obviously not a king. So, why should he get in Smash if he isn't a true king?"
 

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"We already have a Giant Reptile King, he would just be a Bowser clone."
 

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"Is K. Rool Bowser? Is K. Rool Olimar??? Bowser's a freakin' turtle! Turtles come in all shapes and sizes. K. Rool...is a crocodile! Cro-co-dile! Crocodile anatomy dictates they have to be frickin' huge!"
 
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"Is K. Rool Bowser? Is K. Rool Olimar??? Bowser's a freakin' turtle! Turtles come in all shapes and sizes. K. Rool...is a crocodile! Cro-co-dile! Crocodile anatomy dictates they have to be frickin' huge!"
Actually, that makes me wonder how Shokio feels about K. Rool...
 
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It's no surprise, I've seen "K. Rool is a too big" used as a serious argument.
 
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It's no surprise, I've seen "K. Rool is a too big" used as a serious argument.
Even though in the glorious masterpiece game known as "Mario Super Sluggers" has him at the same size as Bowser. Yeah, K. Rool is too big for Smash, you guyz.
 
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Even though in the glorious masterpiece game known as "Mario Super Sluggers" has him at the same size as Bowser. Yeah, K. Rool is too big for Smash, you guyz.
I believe his implication was that K. Rool is too fat or wide to work.

Just like newcomers, idiots come in all shapes and sizes.
 

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How annoyed would people feel if DK didn't get a third rep at all and both K. Rool and Dixie received nothing outside the obligatory trophy mention?

I'd be pretty pissed.
I would be fairly annoyed, especially since Kirby got 3 reps and Fire Emblem even has 2... Nothing against either of those franchises (Kirby is one of my favourites), but I feel that Donkey Kong, especially given its revival since 2010, deserves at least one more rep.
 

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Actually, that makes me wonder how Shokio feels about K. Rool...
"Donkey Kong Country...he's big as s***! Donkey Kong Country 2...oh my god, he's big as s***! Donkey Kong Country 3, lo and behold...big as s***! DK64, the n**** so big, DK can fit in his mouth! He can-NOT. BE. DOWNSIZED."
 

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"Donkey Kong Country...he's big as s***! Donkey Kong Country 2...oh my god, he's big as s***! Donkey Kong Country 3, lo and behold...big as s***! DK64, the n**** so big, DK can fit in his mouth! He can-NOT. BE. DOWNSIZED."
"Donkey Kong Country Returns... he's big as s***!"

(For those of you who didn't notice before, Shokio said that Ridley was huge in Metroid Prime 2, a game Ridley did not appear in, while displaying footage of Metroid Prime 1. I find this hilarious.)
 

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As funny as it all is it's kinda dampened for me. As I'm quite certain I've read comments like that... unironically.
(What is it about Smash Bros that brings out the worst in some people? I'm serious. I've read such vitriol over what ultimately amounts to ****ING NOTHING.)
 
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As funny as it all is it's kinda dampened for me. As I'm quite certain I've read comments like that... unironically.
(What is it about Smash Bros that brings out the worst in some people? I'm serious. I've read such vitriol over what ultimately amounts to ****ING NOTHING.)
Two things:

a) it's incredibly popular, which naturally draws in more users, that includes a proportional, vocal minority of the rude and ignorant
b) Smash Bros has passionate fans, who sometimes don't know how to put their point across in a non-insulting way

But most Smash Bros fans are good people, it's mostly, in my opinion, an unfortunate consequence of the series' popularity. Just look at this thread, plenty of friendly and supportive fans of K. Rool who choose to rise above the low-hanging fruit of inflammatory comments.
 

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"Donkey Kong Country...he's big as s***! Donkey Kong Country 2...oh my god, he's big as s***! Donkey Kong Country 3, lo and behold...big as s***! DK64, the n**** so big, DK can fit in his mouth! He can-NOT. BE. DOWNSIZED."
I'm feeling a "Getting Sand in Their TooBigotry" remix coming on...
 

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Guys, stahp. I need to breathe to live ya know :laugh:
 
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Actually, that makes me wonder how Shokio feels about K. Rool...
Something alone the lines of, "I've heard a lot of people asking for King K. Rool. I guess that could work, but he'd really need a new model before he made it in. The one they have right now isn't very good. Give him a new model and he'd work pretty well."

He's actually a Dixie Kong supporter.
 
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Something alone the lines of, "I've heard a lot of people asking for King K. Rool. I guess that could work, but he'd really need a new model before he made it in. The one they have right now isn't very good. Give him a new model and he'd work pretty well."

He's actually a Dixie Kong supporter.
I'm still relatively new here. Is Shokio thought of unfavourably here on SB? I saw the Ridley vid but that's all...
 

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Something alone the lines of, "I've heard a lot of people asking for King K. Rool. I guess that could work, but he'd really need a new model before he made it in. The one they have right now isn't very good. Give him a new model and he'd work pretty well."

He's actually a Dixie Kong supporter.
Well, duh, of course he'd need a new model, that goes for the majority of characters in this game.

I'm still relatively new here. Is Shokio thought of unfavourably here on SB? I saw the Ridley vid but that's all...
The Ridley video alone seems to have generally given Shokio a really bad rap around here, and for good reason.
 

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I'm still relatively new here. Is Shokio thought of unfavourably here on SB? I saw the Ridley vid but that's all...
He posted a pretty long and drawn out video against the inclusion of Ridley which has a pretty good size support base on the forum and has more or less ignored any points other then his own on the subject. That's where alot of it stands, I don't know if he's really disliked anymore then any other person with descending opinions on youtube but he stands out more for reasons I don't entirely understand.
 
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Shokio thoughts on Ridley made me want to see Ridley in smash even more just to see how he would react after the reveal.

Anyways back on topic do you guys think we will see any of K.rool's unexplained abilities in brawl like his unatural athlethicness, his power to turn invisible and/ore his power to teleport?
 

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He posted a pretty long and drawn out video against the inclusion of Ridley which has a pretty good size support base on the forum and has more or less ignored any points other then his own on the subject. That's where alot of it stands, I don't know if he's really disliked anymore then any other person with descending opinions on youtube but he stands out more for reasons I don't entirely understand.
I think one of the reasons Shokio in particular stands out is because his video seems to be the most known anti-Ridley video. Perhaps it just ended up getting quite a bit of views, and it escalated from there. As a result of it being the most known video, many anti-Ridley people reference Shokio as a sort of final say on the matter, usually saying that Shokio disproves all pro-Ridley arguments. That might be because he explicitly ends his video by telling those who agree with him to direct anyone who disagrees with him to his video. He's kind of become a leader figure among anti-Ridley groups, and as a result becomes the main target of hate for the multitude of Ridley supporters.
 

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That one YouTube guy who talks about Ridley basically plays up this "loudmouth ignorant gamer" persona to get attention on his channel, and it works. He pumps out videos with titles like "RIDLEY IS TOO BIG" and "STUPIDEST CHARACTER SUGGESTIONS," and, because he speaks in absolutes and swears semi-frequently, he's developed this cult of YouTube followers who consider his every word to be gospel. He also sticks in little comments like "If you ever see anyone supporting Ridley, show them this video to shut them up" for additional attention, so, naturally, Ridley fans don't like that very much.

As far as K. Rool's athleticism goes, I'd guess he'll either have decent speed or decent jumping, but not both. Even though being a massive target is crippling enough for most heavyweights, Sakurai can't seem to help heaping on additional weaknesses, sad to say.
 
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Would you believe I have actually seen this argument used unironically? Reminds me of the "Mega Man would be a Samus clone!" crowd.
I remember those people! Ha ha... looking back on it now, that first Smash 4 trailer was GREAT.
 

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Has there been any discussion on what K Rool's voice would be? It's been a while since he's had full voice acting, and I'd hope for something like DK64.
 

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As far as K. Rool's athleticism goes, I'd guess he'll either have decent speed or decent jumping, but not both. Even though being a massive target is crippling enough for most heavyweights, Sakurai can't seem to help heaping on additional weaknesses, sad to say.
Speed definitely. I like to focus on the idea he's really heavyset so he wouldn't have great lift. (But then he's shown he can jump before... so maybe not) Should he use his run animation from DKC1 I reckon he could be quite quick. Quicker than you'd expect. But I wonder if he'd have traction though... like say you were sprinting right and you suddenly starting sprinting left-- would he skid?
 

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Has there been any discussion on what K Rool's voice would be? It's been a while since he's had full voice acting, and I'd hope for something like DK64.
I have a good feeling that, if DK and Diddy are keeping their real-life animal sounds from Brawl, that K. Rool will have crocodilian sounds for a voice.

But forget that. I'd rather have him be voiced like he was in DK64.
 

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I personally hope he has a voice reminiscent of his DK64 iteration, so long as the honk/burp/whatever you want to call it noise from the original is in somehow.
 

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I have a good feeling that, if DK and Diddy are keeping their real-life animal sounds from Brawl, that K. Rool will have crocodilian sounds for a voice.
Man, I hope they don't keep the realistic sounds for DK and Diddy. It robbed them of a lot of personality imo.

Honestly, I'd take any voice. The one from the cartoon, DK64...Heck, I'd even be fine with the Paon one. Just as long as he doesn't sound like a real crocodile. A guy with as much personality as K. Rool shouldn't be relegated to having just 'ROAR' as dialogue like Melee/Brawl Bowser.
 

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Man, I hope they don't keep the realistic sounds for DK and Diddy. It robbed them of a lot of personality imo.

Honestly, I'd take any voice. The one from the cartoon, DK64...Heck, I'd even be fine with the Paon one. Just as long as he doesn't sound like a real crocodile. A guy with as much personality as K. Rool shouldn't be relegated to having just 'ROAR' as dialogue like Melee/Brawl Bowser.
When he takes damage, he needs to *BURP*
 

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I like to compare the DK series and the Starfox series for this.

In Brawl the Starfox series had

Fox
Falco
Wolf

Now if the DK series was to get a 3rd rep, then it would be King K Rool, he'd be like what Wolf is with Starfox.
 
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