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K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

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I figured that I'd leave this here. It's a DKC2 metal medley, including K Rool's boss theme:


The K Rool bit begins at 4:48, though it's certainly worth listening all the way through. I'm a long time fan of FJ7X, and this piece sounds just as great as his usual fare. :)
 

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Man...hearing a metal remix of Crocodile Cacophony during K. Rool's triumphant return Smash trailer would make me literally die of happiness. I honestly wouldn't care about anything else in the entire game.
 

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Sakurai is slinging the "not-playable-in-smash" hammer with increased frequency as of late. Keep them b-holes clenched because the next one could be someone we all love... (K. Rool)
 

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Solution: King Koopa K. Rool :troll:.

Using what's left of his wife's spare pots and pans, K. Rool makes a makeshift shell to emulate Bowser. :awesome:

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Looks something like this:


But more "K. Roolified".
I always wondered if K. Rool was based off Bowser' s design in the super mario bros. super show. Then again, it makes me wonder why they made Bowser all green with a crown instead of hair in that show in the first place.
 

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Sakurai is slinging the "not-playable-in-smash" hammer with increased frequency as of late. Keep them b-holes clenched because the next one could be someone we all love... (K. Rool)
Doubt it.

I feel that K. Rool is either going to get announced as a newcomer or deconfirmed when the game comes out. If his role isn't playble, then I don't think he'll have any role. Possibly not even a trophy. Why? Because pretty much the only reason for him to not be playable is if Nintendo is really trying to sweep him under the rug. He meets all the other qualifications: moveset potential, popularity and importance. The only other reason I can think of is Sakurai personally disliking the character, in which case the situation will probably be the same.
 
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Doubt it.

I feel that K. Rool is either going to get announced as a newcomer or deconfirmed when the game comes out. If his role isn't playble, then I don't think he'll have any role. Possibly not even a trophy. Why? Because pretty much the only reason for him to not be playable is if Nintendo is really trying to sweep him under the rug. He meets all the other qualifications: moveset potential, popularity and importance. The only other reason I can think of is Sakurai personally disliking the character, in which case the situation will probably be the same.
It's sad this even remains a possibility. It's ominous how despite his popularity, the name K. Rool hasn't been mentioned by Nintendo in years. Maybe we should rename K. Rool to "he who shall not be named" if he fails to get into Smash 4.
 

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I can agree to that. If they just totally ignore him all together, then it's obvious what Nintendo is trying to do with the character [For some stupid reason.].

This is King K Rool's chance. This is his moment. This is the first time, I can honestly say the desire for K.Rool to be in this game is HUGE. It's not something they can just easily ignore. It's all over Miiverse. It's all in comments.

Sakurai needs to think wisely here.
 

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This is kind of a now-or-never scenario. I don't think Sakurai hates him - let's just reminisce real quickly about the amount of content he got for just a trophy character: a trophy of both him and his minions, quite a few stickers, a default name in the Stage Builder, and an obvious homage via Bowser's character in the Subspace Emissary - but if Nintendo is really trying to sweep the Kremlings under the rug, then that could easily be his downfall. However, it would obviously have a negative impact at least on fans' opinions, as well, since K. Rool has easily been up there in the Most Wanted for Smash for quite a while, with no exclusivity to one region of the world.

After Dixie Kong's ideal time to shine came and went, I feel like K. Rool's chances are as strong as ever. We got the bare minimum of what you'd expect to promote Tropical Freeze (Diddy Kong). And let me remind you that the Direct happened the same day as Japan's release for Tropical Freeze. A hypothetical TF newcomer would have been SO ideal! I seriously doubt Sakurai would have someone related to Tropical Freeze and not reveal them at such a perfect time.

Literally, the only things K. Rool has against him is Nintendo trying to get rid of the Kremlings....and that sounds more like a conspiracy theory than anything, honestly. I just think that Retro is trying their hand at making their own rogue gallery. I don't think we need to needlessly get ourselves down in the dumps about it, especially at a time when his ambiguous role is flickering towards the better.
 

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This is kind of a now-or-never scenario. I don't think Sakurai hates him - let's just reminisce real quickly about the amount of content he got for just a trophy character: a trophy of both him and his minions, quite a few stickers, a default name in the Stage Builder, and an obvious homage via Bowser's character in the Subspace Emissary - but if Nintendo is really trying to sweep the Kremlings under the rug, then that could easily be his downfall. However, it would obviously have a negative impact at least on fans' opinions, as well, since K. Rool has easily been up there in the Most Wanted for Smash for quite a while, with no exclusivity to one region of the world.

After Dixie Kong's ideal time to shine came and went, I feel like K. Rool's chances are as strong as ever. We got the bare minimum of what you'd expect to promote Tropical Freeze (Diddy Kong). And let me remind you that the Direct happened the same day as Japan's release for Tropical Freeze. A hypothetical TF newcomer would have been SO ideal! I seriously doubt Sakurai would have someone related to Tropical Freeze and not reveal them at such a perfect time.

Literally, the only things K. Rool has against him is Nintendo trying to get rid of the Kremlings....and that sounds more like a conspiracy theory than anything, honestly. I just think that Retro is trying their hand at making their own rogue gallery. I don't think we need to needlessly get ourselves down in the dumps about it, especially at a time when his ambiguous role is flickering towards the better.
I guess the idea of "sweeping under the rug" is where that rock formation sort of comes into play. I would think that if they really are trying to wipe K. Rool out of the picture, making any kind of reference to him would seem a little backwards. Ultimately, it's just an easter egg, but the acknowledgement alone shows they haven't completely forgotten about K. Rool. And seeing just how popular he is at this point, it would certainly be in their best interests to have him return for future installments, perhaps preceded by an appearance in Smash. That's how I see it anyway.
 

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I've noticed that while Ridley definitely gets more hate then K. Rool in terms of loud objection, K. Rool is actually the one in the more dire situation.

The biggest threat is Dixie. If she gets in before he does, then just about all hope for the King is lost. Unless Dixie ends up being paired with Diddy somehow, or if there are four slots for the DK series instead of three, nither of which sounding incredibly likely.

When you look at Ridley though, he has no serious competition, and there is only one rep in his franchise (not counting ZSS transformation) as is.
 
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This is kind of a now-or-never scenario. I don't think Sakurai hates him - let's just reminisce real quickly about the amount of content he got for just a trophy character: a trophy of both him and his minions, quite a few stickers, a default name in the Stage Builder, and an obvious homage via Bowser's character in the Subspace Emissary - but if Nintendo is really trying to sweep the Kremlings under the rug, then that could easily be his downfall. However, it would obviously have a negative impact at least on fans' opinions, as well, since K. Rool has easily been up there in the Most Wanted for Smash for quite a while, with no exclusivity to one region of the world.
I'd forgotten about the trophies and other references. K. Rool is undeniably a huge part of Nintendo's history, he can't be ignored or swept under the rug. I think it says a lot for K. Rool and his chances that you'd need a kind of conspiracy theory for him to be left out entirely.
 

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I always wondered if K. Rool was based off Bowser' s design in the super mario bros. super show. Then again, it makes me wonder why they made Bowser all green with a crown instead of hair in that show in the first place.
Blame the factor that the guys who developed the cartoon were using the sprites as the basis.

It's also why Peach had brown hair and Toad had a red vest.
 

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I can agree to that. If they just totally ignore him all together, then it's obvious what Nintendo is trying to do with the character [For some stupid reason.].

This is King K Rool's chance. This is his moment. This is the first time, I can honestly say the desire for K.Rool to be in this game is HUGE. It's not something they can just easily ignore. It's all over Miiverse. It's all in comments.

Sakurai needs to think wisely here.
I'm going to disagree with this because Sakurai is developing the game. You know, the guy who decided it was a genius idea to "level the playing field" between players of various skill levels by adding tripping. The guy who dedicated 60% of Brawl's development time to the SSE because "that's what players were looking for." The guy who cut cutscenes from the game, not because they're a resource vacuum, but because his feelings were hurt that they were uploaded to YouTube, rather than trickled out at tortoise pace on the website over the next month and a half.

Literally all it would take for K. Rool to be left out is for the guy to *laugh* more at the idea of adding a second monkey, or to find generic hair whips to be more unique than multiple boss fights chock-full of villain weaponry, and the King is sunk. That wouldn't be evidence of some conspiracy, it would just be Sakurai being Sakurai, yet again.

Fortunately, the outcome of every character is at the mercy of The Almighty Sakurai, not just K. Rool's. Stupid factors could affect any of them, not just him.
 
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I'm going to disagree with this because Sakurai is developing the game. You know, the guy who decided it was a genius idea to "level the playing field" between players of various skill levels by adding tripping. The guy who dedicated 60% of Brawl's development time to the SSE because "that's what players were looking for." The guy who cut cutscenes from the game, not because they're a resource vacuum, but because his feelings were hurt that they were uploaded to YouTube, rather than trickled out at tortoise pace on the website over the next month and a half.

Literally all it would take for K. Rool to be left out is for the guy to *laugh* more at the idea of adding a second monkey, or to find generic hair whips to be more unique than multiple boss fights chock-full of villain weaponry, and the King is sunk. That wouldn't be evidence of some conspiracy, it would just be Sakurai being Sakurai, yet again.

Fortunately, the outcome of every character is at the mercy of The Almighty Sakurai, not just K. Rool's. Stupid factors could affect any of them, not just him.
Eh....I will agree that Sakurai isn't perfect. Yeah, Brawl wasn't all it could've been because of the fortune sunk into a lackluster Adventure Mode and the ability to unwillingly fall over, but I think Sakurai has proven that, with this go-around, the newcomers will be thought out more so than in Melee and Brawl. Where Melee introduced a slew of characters that barely differed from other characters, and Brawl introduced characters whose gimmicks were so unrefined that most found it hard to play with them, SSB4 is not only attempting to correct Brawl's incapability to update characters and make their gimmicks work (Lucario's aura actually matters, Diddy has found his inner Lanky, Bowser went to the chiropractor), but the five newcomers we know about are characters who can't really be replicated. I would be very surprised to find out Sakurai put in a newcomer clone as a serious priority...

...And that leads me to Dixie Kong. I will never doubt her status as an All-Star, but I can't think how she'd be anything different than Diddy Kong with a Hair Propeller Up-B. Diddy has nimbleness and wooden makeshift gadgetry to define him. Dixie literally just has the Dixie Copter. Compare that to K. Rool's array of crazy gadgets and "disguises". That's something that 1) Can be replicated by few, if any, and 2) is more than enough to fill a move set.

I'm not saying that Dixie Kong is impossible, or that I will do anything in my power to make it clear how much I hate her (because I don't, for the record), but if she is on Sakurai's list of characters to put in the game, she's probably low-priority. The fact that she wasn't announced when Little Mac was is a testament to the fact that Dixie probably isn't in, since it was such an ideal time to announce her.

I'm not trying to say that you or anyone is "wrong". I just think that, while Sakurai has certainly made some questionable decisions in the past, he has kind of proven just how "in the game" his head is this time around...at least in picking newcomers. If there is a new DK rep, he'll choose the one who not only has the stronger move potential, but also a worldwide fanbase....which is K. Rool.
 
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You'd think that if Dixie made it in, they would change DK's up special.
 

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I'm not trying to say that you or anyone is "wrong". I just think that, while Sakurai has certainly made some questionable decisions in the past, he has kind of proven just how "in the game" his head is this time around...at least in picking newcomers. If there is a new DK rep, he'll choose the one who not only has the stronger move potential, but also a worldwide fanbase....which is K. Rool.
Thing is, I agree with you...thus far, at least. My reservation stems pretty much entirely from the Wii Fit Trainer at this point. If that's what passes for unique this time around, I have less confidence in Sakurai's adherence to unique newcomers than I would just looking at the other four.
 

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Thing is, I agree with you...thus far, at least. My reservation stems pretty much entirely from the Wii Fit Trainer at this point. If that's what passes for unique this time around, I have less confidence in Sakurai's adherence to unique newcomers than I would just looking at the other four.
And I can totally understand that. I don't know a single person who wasn't shocked by WFT's inclusion. But with Wii Fit Trainer, there wasn't someone already in the game with her potential playstyle. There really isn't anyone with her potential health-nut statistics who fights using casual yoga/aerobic movement. Dixie Kong, on the other hand, is built exactly like Diddy Kong and has very little to differentiate her. In my opinion, it's two different leagues. One, while very absurd, doesn't really take from any veterans. The other is a female version of a veteran, which would probably make her low-priority.

Dixie Kong aside, I think that both Wii Fit Trainer and Villager should kind of get us excited for K. Rool's chances. They may not offer as much as, say, the Ice Climbers or Olimar, when it comes to unique playstyles, but their movesets are crafted so specifically that only they could really pull it off. It's sort of like that with K. Rool: he probably won't offer a completely foreign strategy like Rosalina will with the puppeteering she will be doing, but his wealth of weaponry and bizarre Saturday-morning cartoon villainy is something only he can pull off.

I can understand being reserved about it. That's how I was with Little Mac, even to the point that I occasionally doubted his inclusion. But just look at him now! Here's to the same fate being bestowed upon King K. Rool!
 
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For some reason, while many see a comradery/rivalry between Bowser and K. Rool, I like to think more of K. Rool and Ridley being the unexpected duo.

You've got the crazy, borderline goofy K. Rool who comes up with convoluted schemes, and Ridley who is no nonsense serious and just wants to get the job done at any cost.

...

Someone needs to make a cartoon show out of that idea.
 
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For some reason, while many see a comradery/rivalry between Bowser and K. Rool, I like to think more of K. Rool and Ridley being the unexpected duo.

I think it makes sense that Bowser and K. Rool would be rivals. At first it didn't make sense, but now it does since they are both completely different characters with different motives. Bowser just wants to take over and control everything he sees while still keeping honor to his foes. K. Rool on the other hand will use all sorts of machinery and wants to start ruling the world by starving his arch-nemesis to death. I can definitely see K. Rool and Ridley get along for their maddening plans.

You've got the crazy, borderline goofy K. Rool who comes up with convoluted schemes, and Ridley who is no nonsense serious and just wants to get the job done at any cost.

...

Someone needs to make a cartoon show out of that idea.
I was thinking about an action movie for "Never Say Too Big," but I think a sitcom could work. Two and a Half Reptiles, anyone?
 

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I think it makes sense that Bowser and K. Rool would be rivals. At first it didn't make sense, but now it does since they are both completely different characters with different motives. Bowser just wants to take over and control everything he sees while still keeping honor to his foes. K. Rool on the other hand will use all sorts of machinery and wants to start ruling the world by starving his arch-nemesis to death. I can definitely see K. Rool and Ridley get along for their maddening plans.

I was thinking about an action movie for "Never Say Too Big," but I think a sitcom could work. Two and a Half Reptiles, anyone?
Who's the half reptile?
Bowser Jr.? :awesome:

If K. Rool is to Ridley, that would make King Dedede comparable to Bowser then right? I got it new sitcom, all 4 of these villains live in an apartment together and their next door neighbors are the respected heroes. :awesome:
 

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Who's the half reptile?
Bowser Jr.? :awesome:

If K. Rool is to Ridley, that would make King Dedede comparable to Bowser then right? I got it new sitcom, all 4 of these villains live in an apartment together and their next door neighbors are the respected heroes. :awesome:
why not added Link and Ganondorf later on the show? ;)


We got :

Bowser -- Mario
King Dedede - Kirby
Ganondorf -- Link

we really need :

Ridley -- Samus
King. K.rool -- Donkey Kong
 
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It's sad this even remains a possibility. It's ominous how despite his popularity, the name K. Rool hasn't been mentioned by Nintendo in years. Maybe we should rename K. Rool to "he who shall not be named" if he fails to get into Smash 4.
Lord K. Rooldemort, you say? :p

Why, that could be the theme for the next DKC game with K. Rool. Who doesn't want to see crocodiles flying on brooms?
 

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Well, I've gotten a SNES emulator now, and my mission to beat DKC has begun!

YEAH!
 

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Lord K. Rooldemort, you say? :p

Why, that could be the theme for the next DKC game with K. Rool. Who doesn't want to see crocodiles flying on brooms?
I'd prefer J. K. Rooling as his new persona, myself.

Come on, you could have one HorKrux as the reward for beating each world's boss, all the way up until you fight Rooling himself.
 
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I'd love for a level to be set in Azkabanana. Imagine the dissonance as Kong Weasley hops, skips and jumps on top of Death Eater heads to the tunes of David Wise.
 

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I'd love for a level to be set in Azkabanana. Imagine the dissonance as Kong Weasley hops, skips and jumps on top of Death Eater heads to the tunes of David Wise.
Wait, would that mean Crankydore... y'know... pops his last balloon?
 

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Kongville Lankybottom becomes a major character later in the books.
 

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SPOILER: Hermonkey Granger and Kong Weasley get together at the end! Sorry, shippers!
 
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What you don't know is that Crankydore had a crush on Grindlewalrus
 
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So far, we have:
  • Harry Potter - Diddy Kong
  • Ron Weasley - Donkey Kong (?)
  • Hermione Granger - Dixie Kong
  • Severus Snape - Snide
  • Albus Dumbledore - Cranky Kong
  • Neville Longbottom - Lanky Kong
  • Grindlewald - Lord Fredrik (I'm assuming)
I propose that we have Monknerva McTinygall.
 
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