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[InASnowBoundLand]

Good for Shovel Knight and Yacht Club to get an amiibo. That is quite an accomplishment.

But I hope this character is not in Smash Brothers. I feel that Smash Brothers would be cheapened with an addition like that. His recency would make him a very underwhelming pick, particularly so for a third party character. I have Shovel Knight on Steam and Wii U. I enjoy it, but Shovel Knight as a newcomer would feel forced and hamfisted.

In terms of K. Rool, however, it might not be bad. If Shovel Knight is a ballot character, his inclusion suggests that the fan polls could be more accurate than some believe.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...w5m-b4JHJ0_cGRKU15KYlTe1E/edit#gid=1483868529

I very much doubt that Shovel Knight, an indie character with approximately 700K sales across all platforms, is getting much if any of the "casual" vote.

I would still feel disappointed with Shovel Knight's inclusion, but if your problem with the character is mostly that you see the character's inculsion as a bad omen for K. Rool, consider this point, too.

 

[CannonStreak]

Could be that they pre-maturely tweeted it.

I'm not worried any more.

Wait, what tweet was it?

 

[Bedoop]

Well, that's not ominous in the slightest. I want to play as Butt Butt. Sue me.

Yes, let's just throw a random symbol that nobody's seen before to rep Butt Butt on an Amiibo Box, why not?

(Also I made some minor errors on the logo so I fixed it for more accuracy)

 

[Wintropy]

Wait, what tweet was it?

It was confirmation of a Shovel Knight amiibo, compatible with "future content on Nintendo platforms released by Yacht Club Games".

Yacht Club really, really, really, really love Nintendo platforms.

 

[TheSmasher916]

So the SK thread is taking this as amazing news for them, but I'm still kinda on the boat that this means he's not in Smash; if this indeed is the "megaton" announcement that is. I don't see why they'd go through the trouble of making two separate amiibo for SK if the Smash one is coming soon anyways. This is likely all SK is getting.



Gotta admit though... that amiibo is godlike

 

[Senselessbreak]

Also for anyone saying "This amiibo could also be used in Smash."

Sure it could....but that implies he would get his own Smash amiibo.....meaning TWO SK amiibos are on the way. This would make no sense, since no other 3rd Party Amiibo got a second amiibo yet....

The next big point, if SK is INDEED in development RIGHT NOW, and ready to be revealed soon as Tamaki speculates....why would Nintendo go to the effort to make a none Smash related SK amiibo first? If they knew he was in development, they would have waited a little longer.

I think its safe to say this debunks the fact that SK is coming to Smash anytime soon............all the said, it is possible for him to come somewhere down the road, but at the very least it deconfirms everything Tamaki theorized about.

Another thing to note. The SK says "Official Licensed Nintendo Product" on it, which would imply YCG made this amiibo themselves.

No other Amiibo (Including 3rd parties from Smash) have this.

 

[EmceeEspio]

Let's be honest here...

What does Shovel Knight's inclusion mean anything for or against K.Rool's?

I'm personally going to be happy if we get both.

 

[ShinyRegice]

This amiibo is interesting news. For a third-party character "who needs to maintain his momentum to shine as a series", this is a much better handling of things than being playable in Smash.

Though I hope we won't hear too much of "Shovel Knight has an amiibo that means Nintendo really really cares about him and that he's Smash material!!". If anything it proves that Nintendo is willing to cooperate with other companies to make amiibos of third-party characters (outside of Smash characters), and I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes more than an isolate case in the future. For example, Yooka-Laylee developers said they were interested in amiibo functionality in the Wii U version; I originally assumed it only meant compatibility with already existing amiibos made by Nintendo, but I'd actually expect Yooka-Laylee themed amiibos at this point.

Speaking of this, if Yooka-Laylee is indeed compatible with amiibo, I'd love to see functionality with amiibos of characters Rare already worked on several years ago - obviously Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong, and more according to the Smash DLC newcomers we will get, such as, you know, a certain crocodile king or maybe even more if we get a DKC themed amiibo line. Though I suppose it would be mostly special cameos with no major influence on the overall gameplay, besides maybe giving you a collectible for free.

Besides, this amiibo solves the problem of whoever is number 40 in Super Mario Maker - 34-36 are Kid Icarus characters, 41-44 are Fire Emblem characters, 37 is Mega Man, and I assume 38-40 are other third-party characters, and there's most likely not Ryu considering his amiibo will not be released before 2016 anyway (especially if we consider that there's no room for Roy), so if we get Pac-Man and Sonic then Shovel Knight probably fills the last third-party slot which I think would be in the base game considering the amiibo releases before 2016.

 

[Cyberguy64]

Also for anyone saying "This amiibo could also be used in Smash."

Sure it could....but that implies he would get his own Smash amiibo.....meaning TWO SK amiibos are on the way. This would make no sense, since no other 3rd Party Amiibo got a second amiibo yet....

The next big point, if SK is INDEED in development RIGHT NOW, and ready to be revealed soon as Tamaki speculates....why would Nintendo go to the effort to make a none Smash related SK amiibo first? If they knew he was in development, they would have waited a little longer.

I think its safe to say this debunks the fact that SK is coming to Smash anytime soon............all the said, it is possible for him to come somewhere down the road, but at the very least it deconfirms everything Tamaki theorized about.

Another thing to note. The SK says "Official Licensed Nintendo Product" on it, which would imply YCG made this amiibo themselves.

Then again, considering Shovel Knight's unique status as an Indie character, maybe this will be his only amiibo even if he ends up in Smash. Who knows? Everything is unprecedented at this point. It's like the Old West of Smash.

 

[InASnowBoundLand]

Shovel Knight's inclusion could actually be a good omen for K. Rool, even if I feel that the choice would be extremely underwhelming. As I stated above, if Shovel Knight is a ballot character, that suggests the polls in the community are more accurate than believed. It seems unreasonable to attribute his success to casual voters when he is a recent character with a game has sold approximately 700K on all platforms.


The Smash Brothers style logo in the background makes me believe that this character is coming.

 

[TheSmasher916]

Let's be honest here...

What does Shovel Knight's inclusion mean anything for or against K.Rool's?

I'm personally going to be happy if we get both.

The "leaker" that said SK was in also said that K. Rool was unlikely

 

[Senselessbreak]

Then again, considering Shovel Knight's unique status as an Indie character, maybe this will be his only amiibo even if he ends up in Smash. Who knows? Everything is unprecedented at this point. It's like the Old West of Smash.

Shovel Knight's inclusion could actually be a good omen for K. Rool, even if I feel that the choice would be extremely underwhelming. As I stated above, if Shovel Knight is a ballot character, that suggests the polls in the community are more accurate than believed. It seems unreasonable to attribute his success to casual voters when he is a recent character with a game has sold approximately 700K on all platforms.


The Smash Brothers style logo in the background makes me believe that this character is coming.

This amiibo is entirely pushed out by YCG and not Nintendo

 

[InASnowBoundLand]

The leaker did not have any information about K. Rool. The leaker's reasoning was that the Mii costume suggested he wasn't going to get in. Something we've all heard at this point.

 

[dangeraaron10]

The plot thickens!

So I take it this is Yacht Club's megaton, eh? Shovel Knight getting his own amiibo is a huge accomplishment. I wonder at all how they managed. Shantae has had more exclusive games on Nintendo so I think of all indies she'd get one, especially since the artist behind Rhythm Heaven posted up his own art of Shantae.

I feel bad for those who voted for and want in Shovel Knight, but I think other fanbases (Notably the Shantae one) dodged a bullet. It's not that I don't want Shovel Knight in Smash, I just don't want this Tamaki guy to be right. K. Rool is still on the fast track.

 

[Bananija]

The "leaker" that said SK was in also said that K. Rool was unlikely

It was opinion. He said that because he thinks the K.Osplay deconfirms him (which is not the case). Not some of his "source".

I think that the logo means that Shovel Knight come to Smash, and that @ Cyberguy64 is right about it being is only amiibo. However, like @ InASnowBoundLand said, Shovel Knight means more good for K.Rool than anything because of the polls accuracy.

If he gets in, it's good for K.Rool, if he doesn't, it doesn't affect his chances. Either way, it's a win-win situation for us. (Also, I believe that if Butt Butt gets in, Tamaki just had a lucky guess.)

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Also for anyone saying "This amiibo could also be used in Smash."

Sure it could....but that implies he would get his own Smash amiibo.....meaning TWO SK amiibos are on the way. This would make no sense, since no other 3rd Party Amiibo got a second amiibo yet....

The next big point, if SK is INDEED in development RIGHT NOW, and ready to be revealed soon as Tamaki speculates....why would Nintendo go to the effort to make a none Smash related SK amiibo first? If they knew he was in development, they would have waited a little longer.

I think its safe to say this debunks the fact that SK is coming to Smash anytime soon............all the said, it is possible for him to come somewhere down the road, but at the very least it deconfirms everything Tamaki theorized about.

Another thing to note. The SK says "Official Licensed Nintendo Product" on it, which would imply YCG made this amiibo themselves.

Yact Club Games probably had the Amiibo planned before getting asked to add Shovel Knight in Smash. They said they had a megaton announcement for the Nintendo version of the game back in late June, so talks with Nintendo about getting a Shovel Knight Amiibo probably started in early June or even earlier than that. I don't think they decided on adding him into Smash around that time, seems to soon to make that decision.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

It looks like Shovel Knight has Little Mac's face... it's a photoshop, game over guys.

 

[Bedoop]

To be fair, the pose Shovel Knight assumes for the Amiibo doesn't even match the artwork on the box, so that pose could very well be his Smash Artwork pose.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Neo Zero and Push are still backing this. The other sources aren't related to the amiibo guys.

Don't celebrate yet.

 

[Xzsmmc]

Yeah, I'm still convinced hes coming to SSB4. Why not just go the whole hog with disappointment?

 

[-crump-]

Well that's disappointing, I was really feeling () that Butt-Butt hype.

 

[Bedoop]

Neo Zero and Push are still backing this. The other sources aren't related to the amiibo guys.

Don't celebrate yet.

I'm gonna celebrate Butt Butt and you're gonna like it.

 

[FalKoopa]

Neo Zero and Push are still backing this. The other sources aren't related to the amiibo guys.

Don't celebrate yet.

Can you please why are they are confident? We'd like to see the evidence too.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Can you please why are they are confident? We'd like to see the evidence too.

Look at source gaming or ask them themselves. @ PushDustIn @ Neo Zero

 

[Senselessbreak]

Neo Zero and Push are still backing this. The other sources aren't related to the amiibo guys.

Don't celebrate yet.

This still makes literally no sense? So SK gets TWO amiibos then? And SK is going to be announced soon? Does Neo Zero and Push have a source as well? And is this source actually credible? Remember what happened his N3ON and his "Nintendo of Japan" source?

 

[Cyberguy64]

What's a king without his knight? I stand behind both fighters!

 

[Neo Zero]

This still makes literally no sense? So SK gets TWO amiibos then? And SK is going to be announced soon? Does Neo Zero and Push has a source as well? And is this source actually credible? Remember what happened his N3ON and his "Nintendo of Japan" source?

Speaking of sources whatever happened to our mutual friend lol.

And no evidence we can talk about, just good authority atm. In the end it could just be a rumor though, so just be patient and wait to see what happens.

Plus isn't this thread supposed to be about K Rool and not leaks?

 

[FalKoopa]

Look at source gaming or ask them themselves. @ PushDustIn @ Neo Zero

....You didn't ask them? (-_-)

 

[PushDustIn]

Can you please why are they are confident? We'd like to see the evidence too.

Check out Source Gaming. I've written everything I can there.

 

[Bedoop]

Plus isn't this thread supposed to be about K Rool and not leaks?

We're just talking about the hot topic because it's a Smash Character possibility
It's like telling the Roy thread to shut up about the Roy/Ryu leak way back when, they just won't

 

[Neo Zero]

We're just talking about the hot topic because it's a Smash Character possibility
It's like telling the Roy thread to shut up about the Roy/Ryu leak way back when, they just won't

That leak also involved Roy lol.

 

[SleuthMechanism]

Welp, the 3rd party slots just got cheapened...not Banjo Kazooie, not Rayman, not Simon Belmont, not any of those third party icons...Shovel Knight, a one hit wonder that hasn't even had two games...truly an icon to reckon with. This kind of sickens me TBH. I'm not against SK's inclusion as a character, but it's how they handled it which bothers me on a deep level. Don't get me wrong, I'm not attacking his fans nor the character, I'm attacking the ETHICS of the inclusion.

IF IF IF and a big IF he's confirmed.

yeah. i still think this "leak" is bs to be honest, it's given me no solid reasons to believe it and it's honestly laughable how people are taking this at face value so quickly and freaking out about it like this. but yeah shovel knight just makes absolutely no sense. A one hit fad is not an icon by any stretch of the imagination. i mean to say shovel knight is on the level of gaming legends like mario, zelda, pacman, sonic, etc is just absurd. i don't particularly support rayman but he and several other earned their place more than shovel knight. Nintendo and sakurai usually think of things in the longterm and i seriously doubt they would pick a character with no foreseeable future and no past. since i mean, it only makes sense to choose a character you know is established and won't be forgotten by the next game. indies are incredibly unreliable in that sense, often just acting as very short lived fads.(see, super meatboy. it was on top of the world for a few months and now it's been mostly forgotten) not sure why push dustin thinks this may be legit to be honest as it complete invalidates the roster picking criteria he himself described.

 

[Bedoop]

That leak also involved Roy lol.

Still a leak.
"lol."

 

[Xzsmmc]

yeah. i still think this "leak" is bs to be honest, it's given me no solid reasons to believe it and it's honestly laughable how people are taking this at face value so quickly and freaking out about it like his. but yeah shovel knight just makes absolutely no sense. A one hit fad is not an icon by any stretch of the imagination. i mean to say shovel knight is on the level of gaming legends like mario, zelda, pacman, sonic, etc is just absurd. i don't particularly support rayman but he and several other earned their place more than shovel knight. Nintendo and sakurai usually think of things in the longterm and i seriously doubt they would pick a character with no foreseeable future and no past. since i mean, it only makes sense to choose a character you know is established and won't be forgotten by the next game. indies are incredibly unreliable in that sense, often just acting as very short lived fads.(see, super meatboy. it was on top of the world for a few months and now it's been mostly forgotten) not sure why push dustin thinks this may be legit to be honest as it complete invalidates the roster picking criteria he himself described.

Just like how Dark Pit would never be be his own character and Duck Hunt would never be in, right?

 

[Neo Zero]

Still a leak.
"lol."

and I don't see K Rool in this leak. If you wanna discuss leaks, use the Nintenzone Social Thread

http://smashboards.com/threads/nint...ht-amiibo-hype-catastrophe-feat-swamp.405399/

 

[Bedoop]

and I don't see K Rool in this leak. If you wanna discuss leaks, use the Nintenzone Social Thread

http://smashboards.com/threads/nint...ht-amiibo-hype-catastrophe-feat-swamp.405399/

Alright King K. Rool thread, we're being forced to move for now because muh relevance doesn't like this place.
I'll see you there.

 

[Gunla]

Leaks should be taken to the NintenZone's Social, and this leak doesn't involve K Rool.

Neo said it best.

 

[oinkers12]

I am highly skeptical of the guy's rumor now because, logically speaking, even if this was promo art for a Smash Bros. amiibo, why would the Shovel Knight logo be in the top left corner? Secondly, if this was related to Smash Bros, wouldn't they have an official Smash Bros announcement and then release the amiibo? This, by no means, deconfirms him and I feel like this guy DID have sources, but this situation is, if anything, worse than the Mii costume. I don't believe that they are going to sell not only two variations of an Independent character, but also both variations are going to be released months (at most) between each other. Maybe I'm missing something but I feel like this particular outcome puts Shovel Knight in a worse position than he was already at.

 

[Senselessbreak]

Doesnt the leak involve K Rool though? Tamaki said two characters left. One is SK and the other is not K Rool, so if this is real K Rool isn't happening.

 

[Wintropy]

Listening to metal remixes of Touhou soundtracks has made me realise just how much of a positive impact it'd be for K. Rool's character if he came with his own unique victory theme.

I think the obvious choice is the first few bars of the refrain from Gangplank Galleon, but the other comments I've seen make mention of a metal remix of the DK character theme, or even a few bars from the drop in Crocodile Cacophany. Either way, a unique victory theme would do wonders for K. Rool's individuality as a character, to demonstrate that he's more than "just a DK rep" or "a dull reptile boss".