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I've never been a prideful person, but I'm disgusted at what I've been reduced to (a

The_Altrox

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Been awhile... this might get long. and it may seem like another "BAAAAHHH, MY HEART GOT BROKEN" blog but I'm not begging for your sympathy. Because sympathy from people I don't know over the internet means little to me. Why am I posting? Because I need to vent, and my friends have their own troubles. I hate bothering them with my issues.

I'm a pretty average dude. I have a good number of friends, guys and girls. I guess I'm a good friend, but that's all I ever been. As far as relationships with significant others, I've never really had a solid relationship here. I've screwed up a lot too, so it's partially my fault. I know what rejection is like, and I usually take it pretty gracefully. It's better to move on than hang on. But things really changed...

Last year, a new girl came to our school for her Junior Year and later Senior year. She is a cute, smart girl, who was overschedualed with school, jobs, extra cirric, etc, but we got to know each other real early on. She had a lot of qualities I found attractive. Cute, smart, sarcastic and cynical. And here is when I make a vital mistake.
At the same time, there was another girl I sorta liked, and I'm pretty sure liked me back. I knew I could easily have had a relationship with her, but I tossed that opportunity away to pursue the first girl mentioned. The second girl... well, that's a different story...

So I ended upasking the first girl to our winter dance, and I was ecstatic when she said yes. We kept talking on the phone and stuff though she avoided me in school it seemed. I figured it was cause she'd rather hang out with her other friends. But I didn't care so much.
When we finally reached the date, I... well, felt pretty sad about the results. The dance was fun, but because I hung out with my friends. She spent more time hanging with her friends. about 95% of the time, even though I bought the ticket/dinner/etc. Really, that doesn't bother me as much as the vibe I recieved. I got the feeling that she didn't want to be there with me...
I gave up then. I figured "why chase what I cant catch?" and I moved on. we still talke, but not as much. I went on for the rest oof the year without caring. Went on to Prom and what not with a friend. Basically saying I wasn't pining over the issue.

This is real it starts. Before Summer arrived, we started talking frequently on Facebook and in person. She asked me to go hang out with her + friends multiple times, though I couldn't a lot (couldn't drive then. had my license, but wasn't allowed and my parents said no to driving me a lot.) But it was this time when I realized that oat of me still wanted her. I remembered about the opportunity I had lost before and decided I did not want that to be lost in vain. I was gonna try again. I knew I had too, or else I would regret it.

I didn't see her much during the summer, because she was interning a long drive away, but we talked alot on FB. She said she wanted to hang out, though we couldn't. During this time, I was getting my parents' trust with the car. Finally as summer reached it's closing, she asked me if I wanted to see a movie. Just the two of us. I remember driving through torrential rain just to get there (still a relatively new driver) but I didn't care. Before and after the film, we talked a lot, but during the film, I put my arm around her. I know this isn't much, but I didn't want to go to fast and ruin things (I have a tendency for doing that). This was also a litmus test for me to see if it would be okay. and visibly it was. I'm sort of a pesemist in my view on life, but I remember feeling really good there.

A few weeks passed. School started, and we started acting like normal. Things were okay. But then one night on FB, I asked her if she wanted to hang out again, only to get a response similar to this: "You're an awesome guy. Seriously, like one of the most awesome people I know (BS lines) but we can't be more than friends." I just read the words in my mind a few times before posting "Story of my ****ing life" before logging off. She tried to call me, but I wouldn't answer the phone. I wasn't overly mad. I just wanted to let the reality sink in. And when it did, it began to ache. At this time, I was grounded from the computer, but I snuck on to do stuff, only to be confronted by her, asking me if I was okay. We talked for a little bit, and she said that she would have gone out with me several years ago, but now she couldn't becaise of the "bad things she had done in the past" >__> She wouldn't tell me what. But I couldn't keep talking. I had to get off because a parental unit was coming.

For two weeks, I felt very emo about the whole situation. I only talked to her when she talked to me first, but I avoided looking at her, because I felt sick when doing so. Eventually, we did get to talk online (too busy IRL) and she told me the same stuff as before. AND THIS IS WHERE I CHOPPED MY BALLS OFF! Yeah, THAT got your attention. anyway, I started talking about the way I felt (I hate doing so, but...) what I had given up, what I wanted, that I didn't care if she did things in the pas, how angry I was, etc. I told her I still wanted to go out with her. But she told me that because of her job and classes and etc, she told me to wait till December when she had time to commit to a relationship, but if I found somebody else by then, it would be okay. I said okay.

Just so you know, I'M NOT THAT NAIVE!I know that is code for "not interested" but I wanted to try. I had already put way too much emotion into this. I asked for help from friends. One told me to give her time, and it would pay off. another told me that if I kept hanging on, it would hurt me. and it did. I hated the uncertainty of it all so much. I went out on a blind date during this time. The date was nice, but I couldn't stay focused. I kept thinking about you know who.

A month or so that. A dance is coming up now. I asked her if she wanted to go, saying that I knew she wanted to wait
, but that she was the only girl I wanted to go with (if I had grown my balls back, consider them rehacked.) What she said was really a low blow. She told me she asked a friend already, and that she should have known I would ask her (YA THINK!?) I logged off, and was very depressed. The next day, we talked in person. She told me that whole thing about the "actions of the past" only for me to tell her it didn't bother me. and then she told me that I needed to let go and move on. The whole "waiting" game was just a plot to get me uninterested. and her parents apparently won't let her date (strict asian family)and that she never brought it up earlier becaise it embarrassed her. I was giving the cold and somewhat sad stare now, and asked her why she didn't just tell me to **** off a long time ago. she never answered. She also told me that she had intentiannally been acting cold to me, because she didn't want to lead me on. what she said last really injured me inside. she said that the way I felt were just stupid hormonal emotions that caused me to overreact, and that how I feel will be meaningless eventually. after this whole speech, she told me she still wanted me to be friends, and hugged me. I hugged back unsincerely though.

(if you're still reading this... you must be really patient.)

a month has passed since then. school is rough. I'm going to the dance with a friend. I act like I've moved on. I only talk with her if she talks first, because in all honesty, the whole "let's act like it never happened" deal don't play well with me, though I act like I'm okay. After we talked that day, I didn't go in my corner to cry about how life sucks. Because even though it does suck, I still have to live it. So I did. I can recognize the ups and downs. But after thinking about everything over and over again, I began to get pissed about the whole ordeal. Pissed that I though things could work. Pissed that I severed my manhood. But now that I think about it, there are so many holes in the story.
If she has strict parents, how could she get away with all these bad things? Somethings seem amiss. I think she's lying about both, and she doesn't want to go out with me because she thinks I'm boring or something (my theory.)
And even so, why did she ask me out if her parents wouldn't allow it? And the "as friends" thing is BS. Who goes to a movie alone with just one friend of opposite gender? I bet by then, she knew liked her too. She's a smart chick.
And why does she expect me to forget everything and be friends? After the ways she treated me, it's not impossible, but it ain't happening right now.
The whole "stupid emotions" has some truth to it. I assume I'll be over this in the next few months. But at the same time, I never felt this way about a girl before.

What's next? Well... I know I need to move on. That would be the best thing to do. BEcause I'm angry in this state. However, part of me still wants he. That part makes me sad. When I don't think about her, I feel good. But forgetting is probably not possible. The whole situation angers me. I wish I could understand why she is so different to me. Why I can't let go so easily. She's hurt me more than any woman I know, and yet, part of me wants to hold on, against all logic... I don't get it. Infatuation never did this to me before...

If you read this far, kudos to you. If you have anything to post, go ahead.
 

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Girls will tell you what they want you to hear, not what they are really thinking. They will lie. They will fake. They don't want you to hate them, and they want to feel popular/sexy, so they let you fall hopelessly in love until you eventually force them to admit that they don't like you by constantly pursuing them or trying to go too far. They don't realize how bad their rejection feels, so they want to "be friends" even after they reveal that they don't have feelings for you. That is how the vast majority of girls are, and the only way to avoid it is by being a d!ck and advancing the relationship really fast. This has nothing to do with your "manhood", it has to do with the infuriating puzzle that is the female mind.



EDIT: Sorry if I come off as a chauvinist, I am scarred by past experiences... :laugh:
 

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Been awhile... this might get long. and it may seem like another "BAAAAHHH, MY HEART GOT BROKEN" blog but I'm not begging for your sympathy. Because sympathy from people I don't know over the internet means little to me.
It's human nature for this to happen: When you say "I don't mean x," people are generally gonna think "He means x." So, when you said this wasn't another BAWWWWW blog, that was the first thing I thought it was when I started to read.

Otherwise, I can only say these things happen. Brush your shoulders off and learn how to get better as a result of the circumstance.
 

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Last year, a new girl came to our school for her Junior Year and later Senior year. She is a cute, smart girl, who was overschedualed with school, jobs, extra cirric, etc, but we got to know each other real early on. She had a lot of qualities I found attractive. Cute, smart, sarcastic and cynical. And here is when I make a vital mistake.
Wait, what did this girl have to do anything? Couldn't the post have been virtually the same without mentioning this first girl that is completely irrelevant to it? Or am I missing something?

Anyways... not much I can think to say but... sucks for you, try and get over what happened and try and not let it happen again.
 

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Haha, you remind me of my friend, smart enough to know it's a trap, but goes in anyways. he loses his balls around women he he thinks he has a chance with which is different than you a bit.

anyways, read this it'll cheer you up.

I know where your coming from so here's my advice: get laid, that way you'll be smart enough to know it's a trap, and care so little about the outcome that the outcome with almost always be positive. Plus it takes away the hurt inside that women from the past have placed there. inadequacy leaves like a fart in the wind.

btw I wanna know what you thought about the article I told you to read :p


EDIT: john9blue has it basically right, a few minor details, they know it hurts but not how bad (the rejection) and the reason they want to be friends is to lighten to mood and make you feel less hurt, HOWEVER they do not have a ***** so they do not understand taht this jsut makes it worse. any guy that is scared by past exp's is a smart man, learn from your mistakes always, girls do play mind games with you, even when they don't realize they are doing it, and it's to take control of the situation, thus you need to say the things they wish to hear so they fall into their own trap.

 

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Haha, you remind me of my friend, smart enough to know it's a trap, but goes in anyways. he loses his balls around women he he thinks he has a chance with which is different than you a bit.

anyways, read this it'll cheer you up.

I know where your coming from so here's my advice: get laid, that way you'll be smart enough to know it's a trap, and care so little about the outcome that the outcome with almost always be positive. Plus it takes away the hurt inside that women from the past have placed there. inadequacy leaves like a fart in the wind.

btw I wanna know what you thought about the article I told you to read :p
Meh, that didn't even seem like an article. Just seemed like a summary of what I was told. Overall though, I still don't get why she asked me out only to say no later.

Wait, what did this girl have to do anything? Couldn't the post have been virtually the same without mentioning this first girl that is completely irrelevant to it? Or am I missing something?

Anyways... not much I can think to say but... sucks for you, try and get over what happened and try and not let it happen again.
The girls I described in the text you quoted was the girl who was focused on. Not the other girl I mentioned.

Girls will tell you what they want you to hear, not what they are really thinking. They will lie. They will fake. They don't want you to hate them, and they want to feel popular/sexy, so they let you fall hopelessly in love until you eventually force them to admit that they don't like you by constantly pursuing them or trying to go too far. They don't realize how bad their rejection feels, so they want to "be friends" even after they reveal that they don't have feelings for you. That is how the vast majority of girls are, and the only way to avoid it is by being a d!ck and advancing the relationship really fast. This has nothing to do with your "manhood", it has to do with the infuriating puzzle that is the female mind.



EDIT: Sorry if I come off as a chauvinist, I am scarred by past experiences... :laugh:
Yeah... this makes sense.

Oberall though, I still don't get why I can't move on from this like I have done for past rejections
 

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Ha.Ha.Ha. ****...
I've met a girl like that too. Difference is, she liked me and decided to dump me when I became too soft showed too much 'love'. She's an asian chick man (I'm asian, no racism!)... Asian chicks have the rep to lead on people like that. The whole thing about her parents being strict and doing bad things, I'd bet my 2 dollars that they were true. Asian parents are strict, but man... They ain't good in keeping tabs on their kids. No jokes.

You were led on, and it hurts you. You should stop meeting her if possible. I've known a lot of guys who were led on the same way... The best way is just to keep yourself busy and not see her at all. At first, it'll eat you from inside. But then, you'll feel... Oblivious. Not the right term, but it's the only one that comes to my mind at the moment. Just give it a few months, no talk and no sight. Maybe that'll help you a bit.

I've liked that blog, I know exactly how it feels.
Anyway, if you wanna talk or something. Add me on AIM or MSN (for both: tang.kenley@hotmail.com)
I'm not a nolife nor one who thinks he could help you out, but if you feel the need to vent. Go ahead, add me up. We could always discuss about stuff.

Oh and one more thing.
Wisdom is to know that you know nothing.
 

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I **** you not, I know what that's like. My first girlfriend I ever had was like that. Caring, we tried and do things together, talk, just get to know each other a bit better. I remember I tried to win her back the first time we broke up (she broke up with me... phone text FTL.) I later learned that she had an enormous past of drinking, drugs, and massive amount of sex. That was after I broke up with her when we were going out the second time (I found out she was cheating on me with.. get this... a girl. Yep. The "you turned your girlfriend lesbian" jokes rained amongst my friends and I) I had felt betrayed and shafted. Now I take relationships lightly unless the girl calls me at 2 in the morning just to say "Hi, I miss you". My motto is; Be loved then love. Therefore I love. It basically says; **** love unless someone loves you first.

Here's my bit of advice; make room to love, be loved, to grow and to see. Never wear your heart on a string nor lock it in a chest. Be free and experience several girls. You can't go wrong. Unless it's like your cousin, cause then your totally messed up in the head.
 

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Reminds me of what happened to me twice. Each story a little shorter. Each over a shorter time-period. Here's ho it went:

Situation 1:
I liked this new girl from Ohio. We were hanging out a lot, both in-school and out. I liked her for a good three months. Without going into crazy detail, I figured we were way too close to date; it killed me. I liked her so much, and could have sworn that she liked me. It all seemed to make sense. We had a song called "It had to be you;" here are the lyrics, if you are interested. I still help firm, and decided not to get involved. She started talking to my brother. They talked a lot; she would not respond to my texts while talking to him (a really dumb trick to play on a sibling). I told her that he would break her heart, not because I wanted to date her, but because that's what he does. She ignored me and her best friend. In the end, he broke her heart, I got over her, and I'm currently dating her best friend; we are all okay with the situation. It was hell in the meantime, though.

Situation 2:
I liked a girl. Strict, Asian parents, as in your story; she used them as an excuse to reject me, saying she wasn't allowed to date. The very next day she said that she liked me, but started avoiding me (sound familiar?) After a week, we finally straightened it out, and we started dating. She walked quickly and quietly beside me in the halls. She wouldn't stand me up at our meeting spots. She would run off before hugging me. She would avoid me. After ONE WEEK, she gave me a note, saying that we were over. This was really depressing. My relationships had gotten shorter and shorter and this was the shortest (1.5 years, 1 year, 7 months, 1 month, .5 month, 1 week). We decided to stay friends. She blocked me on everything and avoided me constantly. Yeah.

It gets better; at least, it did for me. Just settle down with someone you're really comfortable with.
 

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You've got your head in (almost) all the right places. You recognize a lot of your mistakes, you know that you need to move on, you're noticing the "holes" in her stories. The one thing you need to fix is the mentality that you shouldn't "bother your friends with your issues because they have their own problems". That's EXACTLY what friends are for. Just make sure you're there for them when they need you to return the favor.

Anyways, time heals all wounds, it's hard when you see the person on a regular basis but just keep your distance and you'll be feeling better soon. Now what you need to do is make sure that you learn from this experience and most importantly, REMEMBER the lessons you've learned and don't keep making the same mistakes.

Couple quick tips I've learned:
-Don't feel obligated to pay for stuff on a "date". ESPECIALLY a first date. She's not broke, she can pay for her own ticket to a dance. Paying for stuff, especially early in a relationship/before there is a relationship, puts you in to the "provider" category. Think of it as trying to buy her affection. Do you really think a woman is going to give her affection to the highest bidder? I'm not saying to be a jerk about money, but in a situation like going to a dance, you're not obligated to buy her ticket.

-You need to re-think your concept of "taking things too fast". Maybe discuss the subject with some of your female friends. You put your arm around her during the movie...then did nothing? You sent the message that you wanted to move things forward with her, and then slammed on the brakes without regard for what she was thinking/feeling. At your age the acceptable "speed" to move things is changing very rapidly, what was too fast a year ago for a girl is probably way too slow now. Just remember this, girls are not only expecting you to make the moves, they WANT you to. And if you make a move they don't want, they'll say no.
 

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You were led on, and it hurts you. You should stop meeting her if possible. I've known a lot of guys who were led on the same way... The best way is just to keep yourself busy and not see her at all. At first, it'll eat you from inside. But then, you'll feel... Oblivious. Not the right term, but it's the only one that comes to my mind at the moment. Just give it a few months, no talk and no sight. Maybe that'll help you a bit.
Gonna be hard to do that considering she's two lockers away. I already don't talk to her unless she talks to me first.


Situation 2:
I liked a girl. Strict, Asian parents, as in your story; she used them as an excuse to reject me, saying she wasn't allowed to date. The very next day she said that she liked me, but started avoiding me (sound familiar?) After a week, we finally straightened it out, and we started dating. She walked quickly and quietly beside me in the halls. She wouldn't stand me up at our meeting spots. She would run off before hugging me. She would avoid me. After ONE WEEK, she gave me a note, saying that we were over. This was really depressing. My relationships had gotten shorter and shorter and this was the shortest (1.5 years, 1 year, 7 months, 1 month, .5 month, 1 week). We decided to stay friends. She blocked me on everything and avoided me constantly. Yeah.

It gets better; at least, it did for me. Just settle down with someone you're really comfortable with.
Yeah, if there's one thing I've learned from half the people who've commented on this and people I know in real life, it's STAY AWAY FROM ASIAN CHICKS! lol, other people said similar stuff.

You've got your head in (almost) all the right places. You recognize a lot of your mistakes, you know that you need to move on, you're noticing the "holes" in her stories. The one thing you need to fix is the mentality that you shouldn't "bother your friends with your issues because they have their own problems". That's EXACTLY what friends are for. Just make sure you're there for them when they need you to return the favor.

Anyways, time heals all wounds, it's hard when you see the person on a regular basis but just keep your distance and you'll be feeling better soon. Now what you need to do is make sure that you learn from this experience and most importantly, REMEMBER the lessons you've learned and don't keep making the same mistakes.

Couple quick tips I've learned:
-Don't feel obligated to pay for stuff on a "date". ESPECIALLY a first date. She's not broke, she can pay for her own ticket to a dance. Paying for stuff, especially early in a relationship/before there is a relationship, puts you in to the "provider" category. Think of it as trying to buy her affection. Do you really think a woman is going to give her affection to the highest bidder? I'm not saying to be a jerk about money, but in a situation like going to a dance, you're not obligated to buy her ticket.

-You need to re-think your concept of "taking things too fast". Maybe discuss the subject with some of your female friends. You put your arm around her during the movie...then did nothing? You sent the message that you wanted to move things forward with her, and then slammed on the brakes without regard for what she was thinking/feeling. At your age the acceptable "speed" to move things is changing very rapidly, what was too fast a year ago for a girl is probably way too slow now. Just remember this, girls are not only expecting you to make the moves, they WANT you to. And if you make a move they don't want, they'll say no.
Yeah, the whole "moving fast" thing. I knew I was moving slow, but I get nervous and I REALLY DID NOT WANT TO SCREW THINGS UP! Seriously, I would have a hard time going from there since I've never had a steady relationship before, and I really don't know how to move from there, and I don't want to ask my friends because I know most of them have had good experiences, and it embarrasses me how slow I am in comparrison. either way, she would have told me to GTFO if I tried to go farther knowing what happened

and about telling friends, I don't want to, since most of them don't come to me with problems. Some of my best friends always have problems but they never tell me, so I really don't feel much urge to talk to them. The only person I've reallly talked to is my best female friend (we've been good friends for four years) and her boyfriend, who I'm good friends with, and she told him, so he knows most everything anyway
 

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2 Lockers away? Man, I understand your pain. She was right beside me last year... But the best trick would be to let her know that you simply don't want to talk to her, really.

If you're quite direct, the moment she says hi or something... Just answer something like this: "I'm sorry, but I really don't wanna talk to you."

Or if you're a bit more leaned toward the indirect side, just talk to her (in very brief sentences) in a way that says: "Very interesting, kthxbai."


Man.....I feel your pain, dude.

Feel free to talk to me on AIM sometime, if you need to vent.
Difference is that she hasn't led you on bro, she didn't.
 

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2 Lockers away? Man, I understand your pain. She was right beside me last year... But the best trick would be to let her know that you simply don't want to talk to her, really.

If you're quite direct, the moment she says hi or something... Just answer something like this: "I'm sorry, but I really don't wanna talk to you."

Or if you're a bit more leaned toward the indirect side, just talk to her (in very brief sentences) in a way that says: "Very interesting, kthxbai."
The first one is rude. I'd be a complete ***** if I said that. TBH, I usually respond in a quick sentence without much emotion, and I normally don't look at her when I speak
 

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TBH, I usually respond in a quick sentence without much emotion, and I normally don't look at her when I speak
You consider it less rude to do this, than to be honest and up front with her? Really man, think about it.

I have some stuff to say about your earlier response but this is more important :p
 

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You consider it less rude to do this, than to be honest and up front with her? Really man, think about it.

I have some stuff to say about your earlier response but this is more important :p
Remember, she told me that the emotions I feel were stupid and meaningless. I'd rather not create more drama by blubbering over honesty.
also, it's not like she wants to talk to me. 90% of our conversations before hand were started by me, and she rarely talks to me now. so much for al that "I want ys to be friends" crap.
 

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Remember, she told me that the emotions I feel were stupid and meaningless. I'd rather not create more drama by blubbering over honesty.
also, it's not like she wants to talk to me. 90% of our conversations before hand were started by me, and she rarely talks to me now. so much for al that "I want ys to be friends" crap.
Who said anything about blubbering? If you don't want to talk to her, say that simply. You don't have to elaborate. If she asks you to, then tell her "you said what i felt before was stupid and meaningless, lets leave it at that" (or something along those lines).

This idea actually just came up in another girl blog that's pretty active right now, but it's definitely worth reiterating here. Stop caring what she thinks of you. Seriously. She (and everyone else) will respect (and like!) you way more if you stop trying to be captain nice guy that doesn't ever step on anyone's toes or risk upsetting anyone in any way.

And one more great quick tip for dealing with women you're attracted to:
-"Give her the gift of missing you". You can test this one out super easily the next time you find a girl you're starting to get close to. You can even test it with a friend you talk to regularly. Just don't initiate a conversation with her for a couple days. Guaranteed she will initiate the conversation with you, and be happier to talk to you. Always being the one initiating conversation gives off a "needy" and "clingy" vibe. Women RUN from needy and clingy.
 

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Who said anything about blubbering? If you don't want to talk to her, say that simply. You don't have to elaborate. If she asks you to, then tell her "you said what i felt before was stupid and meaningless, lets leave it at that" (or something along those lines).

This idea actually just came up in another girl blog that's pretty active right now, but it's definitely worth reiterating here. Stop caring what she thinks of you. Seriously. She (and everyone else) will respect (and like!) you way more if you stop trying to be captain nice guy that doesn't ever step on anyone's toes or risk upsetting anyone in any way.

And one more great quick tip for dealing with women you're attracted to:
-"Give her the gift of missing you". You can test this one out super easily the next time you find a girl you're starting to get close to. You can even test it with a friend you talk to regularly. Just don't initiate a conversation with her for a couple days. Guaranteed she will initiate the conversation with you, and be happier to talk to you. Always being the one initiating conversation gives off a "needy" and "clingy" vibe. Women RUN from needy and clingy.
consisdering we rarely talk, I'm not gonna suddenly say that.
and the whole thing about not talking. I did occaisionally drop on the initiating conversation thing. I do this with a lot of people actually, just to observe.
 

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Well do it more. Way more if you want a girl to be interested in you.

And don't just randomly say to her "hey, i don't want to talk to you". That would be weird lol. But the next time she tries to talk to you, if you don't want to talk to her just say so. Not looking at her and just saying something in an unnatural tone is, well, unnatural. And not a little bit immature.
 

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Cherry64, that article was too good :) sounds just like a friend of mine.

this has happened in my life, A LOT. And i [was] in the same boat my friend. The best advice i can give is to forgive and forget, and keep yourself open. im dating said girls best friend now, FYI ;D.
And yes, be fun, but as highfive said be loved and then love =]
 

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Bummer man.
I can empathize buddy.
I like an asian friend of mine and I have for quite some time, and she doesn't like me back.
Whats worse is that this year when I first told her that I liked her last year she told me that she liked me last year too.
The funny thing is that when I told her friends that I liked her they said she wasn't looking for a guy.
I also really like this redhead chick I met this year and I have since the moment I saw her....but she keeps dating people right when I'm ready to ask her out.
Just know that you aren't alone and everything will be alright.
One day you will find the perfect girl and realize that you are glad that things didn't work with girl#1.
 

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One day you will find the perfect girl and realize that you are glad that things didn't work with girl#1.
That's...a really silly viewpoint. If you sit around waiting for "perfect girl" and you don't date people you're interested in, when you actually meet "perfect girl" you're gonna be clueless about what to do and things probably won't work.

Everything in life is a learning process, and you can't have success without failure. Rejections happen, it sucks, but you can learn from it so get what good you can from it and continue on =)
 

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That's...a really silly viewpoint. If you sit around waiting for "perfect girl" and you don't date people you're interested in, when you actually meet "perfect girl" you're gonna be clueless about what to do and things probably won't work.

Everything in life is a learning process, and you can't have success without failure. Rejections happen, it sucks, but you can learn from it so get what good you can from it and continue on =)
This. I think there was a quote about seeing an imperfect person perfectly or something to that extent
 

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That's...a really silly viewpoint. If you sit around waiting for "perfect girl" and you don't date people you're interested in, when you actually meet "perfect girl" you're gonna be clueless about what to do and things probably won't work.

Everything in life is a learning process, and you can't have success without failure. Rejections happen, it sucks, but you can learn from it so get what good you can from it and continue on =)
This. I had expected that "But it's rude!". But being straightforward is a good thing when used in the right moments.

Oh and, being nice and **** just sucks. You're exactly behaving like girls that give out excuses instead of rejecting you... That's bad, yes.
 

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yeah, one more thing... about the whole progressing at the movies... what should I do in those situations? I mean, I know what I CAN do, but that may be the same as what I SHOULD do.
 

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I began reading this and thought it was going to be another one of those pathetic "She said 'Let's just be friends' and I got sad" stories but to be honest, this time it actually put things in perspective. I was going through a similar situation a while ago, but when she told me that she just wanted to be friends, I was happier. That was probably only because I was expecting it but now I realise that you don' need someone close (ie girlfriend) to have someone to talk to or spend time with. My best friend is a girl and sure I've thought about what if I asked her out but this time I'm the one who just wants to be friends because I don't want to lose what we have now. We're basically as close as a guy and girl can be without dating. I mean, we've even said we love each other. lol. It's the best relationship I have with anyone. I've never had a girlfriend so I don't know what that feels like but because I've read a whole lot of these stories, that it can wait and something will come along eventually, I'm trying to put myself out there more.

tl;dr I know what you mean and I'm learning from others mistakes instead.
 

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whats with all the negative comments about asian chicks? they're not that bad.. i live in a school full of them.

as for your blog, i think im probably too young to comment on this sort of thing, but ill join the others and say you need to move on...
 

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That's...a really silly viewpoint. If you sit around waiting for "perfect girl" and you don't date people you're interested in, when you actually meet "perfect girl" you're gonna be clueless about what to do and things probably won't work.

Everything in life is a learning process, and you can't have success without failure. Rejections happen, it sucks, but you can learn from it so get what good you can from it and continue on =)
I never told him to wait, I told him to be patient.
 

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I think fate hates me. Dance coming up this weekend, and she invited herself + date into our group. The thought of it makes me sick. BUt I can't visibly affect me. Ugh. WHY CAN'T I GET OVER THIS!?
 

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You know with crises like this, the best solution is to start thinking of nothing but yourself.

You know sometimes a period of shameless self service in absolutely every regard does wonders to bring you back to your best.

Start caring about yourself and not her.
 

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You know with crises like this, the best solution is to start thinking of nothing but yourself.

You know sometimes a period of shameless self service in absolutely every regard does wonders to bring you back to your best.

Start caring about yourself and not her.
Yeah, this makes sense, but I don't know how to do that per-say. I mean, what can I do for myself? Especially this time of year when I'm supposed to be thinking of others (Christmas). I get what you're saying, but I don't get HOW to accomplish it...
 

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**** others.

I mean love your mother and all that other stuff, but really, why should you care about others?
It's you that you should worry about first, after all, it's your body you inhabit.
 

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Yeah, this makes sense, but I don't know how to do that per-say. I mean, what can I do for myself? Especially this time of year when I'm supposed to be thinking of others (Christmas). I get what you're saying, but I don't get HOW to accomplish it...
You do know how to do that, you're just afraid to because you think there will be negative consequences. While it's possible there may be, the positive you'll get out of it will far outweigh any negatives.

But if you really need a roadmap, start by taking a stand on going to this dance with this girl hanging out with you. Even if it means not going to the dance at all (I'd suggest telling your friends that you're just not over what happened yet and you don't want to be around her first though). Is there something you've wanted for a while? Buy it if you can afford it. **** christmas, it's over a month away. Eat a big ****ing bowl of ice cream or something. Just do whatever comes to mind, don't think about it just do it.
 

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I can't exactly bail on the dance. I kinda have a date (we're going as friends.) and I'm not going to think about myself only in this situation. that's a really evil thing to do. Even if I wanted to, I already payed a hefty price for the tickets, so...
I will start being more self thoughtful though
 

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...evil? To not put yourself in a situation where you're going to have a terrible night and probably get hurt? That's...a very odd way of seeing things.

So if you can't bail on the dance, then do whatever you have to in order to enjoy the night. And please do me a favor, write this down on a piece of paper, and keep that paper in a pocket you use often: "Stop being what I think everyone else wants me to be". Remind yourself of it every time you happen to put your hand in that pocket. Pull the paper out and read it regularly. You will be so much happier, and people will like you MORE, if you can learn to stop being what you think everyone else wants you to be, and just be yourself.
 

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...evil? To not put yourself in a situation where you're going to have a terrible night and probably get hurt? That's...a very odd way of seeing things.

So if you can't bail on the dance, then do whatever you have to in order to enjoy the night. And please do me a favor, write this down on a piece of paper, and keep that paper in a pocket you use often: "Stop being what I think everyone else wants me to be". Remind yourself of it every time you happen to put your hand in that pocket. Pull the paper out and read it regularly. You will be so much happier, and people will like you MORE, if you can learn to stop being what you think everyone else wants you to be, and just be yourself.
Would you bail on a girl? seriously? I don't mind doing things for myself, but I'm not going to be a complete <censored> about it. I will try to enjoy the evening, and I will try to remember those "being myself" things.
 
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