"It's just that simple." - Nobunaga Oda (Warriors) Enters the Battlefield!

[ninjahmos]

Hello!
Welcome to my first Smashboards thread, and my first Newcomer Speculation thread! The first character I’m gonna talk about is Nobunaga Oda!

Who is he?
Nobunaga Oda is the titular character from the Nobunaga's Ambition series, by Koei Tecmo, and a recurring character from the Samurai Warriors series, or the Sengoku Musou series, as it's known in Japan, by Koei Tecmo and Omega Force. He's based on the Japanese historical figure, Oda Nobunaga.

What are those series?
Nobunaga's Ambition is a tactical turn-based strategy role-playing war-game video game series, and Samurai Warriors is an action hack and slash video game series, and a spin-off of the Dynasty Warriors series. Both series take place in the Sengoku period of feudal Japan. There’s a crossover series between Dynasty Warriors and Samurai Warriors called Warriors Orochi. There was also a Pokémon x Nobunaga's Ambition crossover for the Nintendo DS called Pokémon Conquest.

What are they about?
In Nobunaga's Ambition, you take on the role of the Oda Clan, or a different clan, and basically, your main objective in that game is to unify and rule all of Japan. In Samurai Warriors, you can take on the roles of many different Japanese historical figures, like Nobunaga himself, who may or may not have participated in these battles. Some of the characters' stories in this series are kinda like alternate history. Some of the outcomes of the battles in their stories are too.

Why Nobunaga?
Not only does Nobunaga have his own video game series, but he's also one of the most well-known characters in the Samurai Warriors series. (In fact, he's one of the most well-known characters in all of Koei Tecmo.) He's portrayed as a major antagonist, and I think he’s in every game in the series.

What would his moveset be?
It would be based on his moveset from the Warriors games. His Final Smash would be True Musou.

What are his chances?
Well...to be honest, I’m not so sure. Probably pretty small, compared to some other Koei Tecmo rep, like Ryu Hayabusa.

What stage would they use?
That, I’m not sure of either. Maybe they could use Incident at Honnoji.

What music would they include?
Like its sister series, Dynasty Warriors, the Samurai Warriors series has many great and memorable songs to choose from. We need music from the Samurai Warriors series, including Spirit of Sanada, the Warriors Orochi series, and the Nobunaga's Ambition series, and maybe some music from Pokémon Conquest. Both originals and new remixes. Here are my picks for Samurai Warriors music:
Samurai Warriors - Okehazama: https://youtu.be/XIvr69fkSvQ
Samurai Warriors - Anegawa: https://youtu.be/1LJ6E2AWh5I
Samurai Warriors - Kawanakajima: https://youtu.be/bnxEGvRZJ6g
Samurai Warriors - Ueda Castle: https://youtu.be/LUDF6qR6NMI
Samurai Warriors - Mikatagahara: https://youtu.be/OLpvjrghxZ0
Samurai Warriors - City of Flowers: https://youtu.be/5QzeW_eQFMk
Samurai Warriors - Nagashino: https://youtu.be/r-YG69y91Fk
Samurai Warriors - Osaka Castle: https://youtu.be/RcGxs7sXtEE
Samurai Warriors - Superiority: https://youtu.be/b0lTlNX3Jlc
Samurai Warriors - Yamazaki: https://youtu.be/eLMFfcvVQ_w
Samurai Warriors - Honnoji: https://youtu.be/UOI0rEB3duo
Samurai Warriors - Inferno/Destruction By Fire: https://youtu.be/LDjDEAy6JoQ
Samurai Warriors - New Officer: https://youtu.be/VYMiqSH8ln0
Dynasty Warriors 3 (Samurai Warriors) - Theme of Lu Bu: https://youtu.be/N2va6UFIgf4
Samurai Warriors: Xtreme Legends - Tadakatsu Honda: https://youtu.be/0z8g-IAGZfs
Samurai Warriors: Xtreme Legends - Komaki-Nagakute: https://youtu.be/R1JnCPfpIxA
Samurai Warriors 2 - Tedorigawa: https://youtu.be/8MugO4LL-aY
Samurai Warriors 2 - Sekigahara: https://youtu.be/pHZLwo8ES5A
Samurai Warriors 2 - Backwater: https://youtu.be/jB6KrQ3cmWQ
Samurai Warriors 2 - Honnoji: https://youtu.be/9z2ZWC-RP0E
Samurai Warriors 2 - Rescue: https://youtu.be/vf8-CHqV5oM
Samurai Warriors 2 - Kyushu: https://youtu.be/PdMXa7rU2Q4
Samurai Warriors 2 - Retreat: https://youtu.be/H5Ndv8h5V7s
Samurai Warriors 2 - Annihilation: https://youtu.be/hMV-wbhMZlc
Samurai Warriors 2: Empires - The Journey: https://youtu.be/qlR-Eg1PK6w
Samurai Warriors 2: Xtreme Legends - Raging Waves: https://youtu.be/YpyD1VpgVdc
Samurai Warriors 2: Xtreme Legends - Okehazama: https://youtu.be/CF_RpazG_js
Samurai Warriors 3 - Shouki ~Winning~: https://youtu.be/cYFvzQbz1rs
Samurai Warriors 3 - Life or Death: https://youtu.be/RwUP2izu5yQ
The Mysterious Murasame Castle (Samurai Warriors 3) - Douchuumen: https://youtu.be/1tdVkYtWf4k
Samurai Warriors 4 - Shattered Sky (Takeda): https://youtu.be/lk8ucg6-KIQ
Samurai Warriors 4 - God of War: https://youtu.be/2Ge5HkPH1f4
Samurai Warriors 4 - Blunder: https://youtu.be/thSmNUS6jig
Samurai Warriors 4 - Lightning Strike (Oda): https://youtu.be/q7P1k-mhe7w
Samurai Warriors 4 - Destiny (Oda): https://youtu.be/ae95tI-GMg4

His victory theme would be this: https://youtu.be/OUd3m3mUYi8

Oda Clan (Supporters):
ninjahmos
PeridotGX
RcS735
@Velveeta Dream
SonicMetaphor
Doc Monocle
Commander_Alph​

 

[PeridotGX]

I'll accept him only if we gewt some sort of Pokemon Conquest representation with it. Maybe an alt, definitely some music.

 

[ninjahmos]

I'll accept him only if we gewt some sort of Pokemon Conquest representation with it. Maybe an alt, definitely some music.

Welcome to the Oda Clan, PeridotGX

 

[RcS735]

Loved pokemon conquest, so i would live to see it.

 

[Deleted member]

Count me in on the Oda Clan.

Yeah I think his chances are low (though really high for a Mii Costume), but Nobunaga squaring off with Ganondorf would be sick. If he is in Smash, I'd be curious as to which version of Nobunaga is chosen from Nobunaga's Ambition to Samurai Warriors to maybe even Samurai Cats and how his moveset would reflect from any of the series in question (like if the Nobunaga from NA will play more like his SW counterpart or will have something else instead).

 

[ninjahmos]

Count me in on the Oda Clan.

Yeah I think his chances are low (though really high for a Mii Costume), but Nobunaga squaring off with Ganondorf would be sick. If he is in Smash, I'd be curious as to which version of Nobunaga is chosen from Nobunaga's Ambition to Samurai Warriors to maybe even Samurai Cats and how his moveset would reflect from any of the series in question (like if the Nobunaga from NA will play more like his SW counterpart or will have something else instead).

I think he'll most likely play like his SW counterpart, and they might use his design from SW4. BTW Since I described my picks for SW music, which SW songs would you like them to include, whether they be originals or new Smash remixes? Also, In case anybody’s interested, I made a petition for Koei Tecmo and Omega Force to remake Dynasty Warriors 2-5, and to remake Samurai Warriors 1 and 2. Here it is: https://www.change.org/p/koei-tecmo...-one-ps5-xbox-series-x-nintendo-switch-and-pc

 

[Deleted member]

I'm a day late on the news, but Samurai Warriors 5 was announced on yesterday's Direct!

Honestly the new and completely different direction they're taking the series right now looks great so far. The new artstyle actually looks pretty cool, and main focus being on the Oda clan really has me wondering if this will be more in line with Spirit of Sanada.

BTW Since I described my picks for SW music, which SW songs would you like them to include, whether they be originals or new Smash remixes?

Also sorry for not responding to this in so long. Truth be told, I'm not as familiar with Samurai Warriors' OST as I am with Dynasty Warriors', but I do have a handful of tracks I hope they include.

Kawanakajima
Osaka Castle
City of Flowers
Komaki-Nagakute
Tadakatsu Honda's Theme
Destiny
Petals in the Wind

 

[ninjahmos]

I'm a day late on the news, but Samurai Warriors 5 was announced on yesterday's Direct!

Honestly the new and completely different direction they're taking the series right now looks great so far. The new artstyle actually looks pretty cool, and main focus being on the Oda clan really has me wondering if this will be more in line with Spirit of Sanada.


Also sorry for not responding to this in so long. Truth be told, I'm not as familiar with Samurai Warriors' OST as I am with Dynasty Warriors', but I do have a handful of tracks I hope they include.

Kawanakajima
Osaka Castle
City of Flowers
Komaki-Nagakute
Tadakatsu Honda's Theme
Destiny
Petals in the Wind

This game looks great! The music, on the other hand, seems to be missing that techno feel that the whole SW series uses for its music. I mean, don’t get me wrong. The music is great, but it just doesn’t have that...KICK from previous games, if you know what I mean. But, on a side note, they could use Young Nobunaga as one of his alts.

 

[Oracle Link]

You may should write Warriors in the title considereing that Oda has his own Game Series that even Had a Pokemon Crossover Game

 

[Doc Monocle]

I have debated for a long time whether I would support this.

Reasons I would: He is a very significant Tecmo Koei character appearing in multiple series, he has his own game, I have played a number of Warriors games, there is plenty of potential for an interesting moveset, few characters in Smash Bros make extensive use of the 'darkness' effect (perhaps with enough fighters using 'darkness,' development would have ideas for giving it a practical, as opposed to aesthetic, use in combat), and his gameplay could be intriguingly distinctive in contrast to other sword wielders.

Reasons I would not: He is another sword fighter (swords are somewhat cliché in gaming), Samurai Warriors names him and portrays his story after a historical figure (would that not make him borderline fourth-party?) ... Hmmm... I suppose it is not too bad after all.

Considering all, the reasons outweigh the anti-reasons, so I support. (to clear one psychological hurdle, I shall call him a 'three-and-one-half' party character.)

 

[Commander_Alph]

I feel like with Nobunaga taking the center in Samurai Warriors 5 probably make him more likely to be chosen among the crowds and also more than Yukimura (feel like I always forgot about him), in any case Nobunaga is somewhat the series definitive main protagonist and antagonist at the same time. Also, it's a must that he have to had an alternate costume based on his younger look from SM5 but idk if a difference in personality and power matter much because from what we've seen his attack involved fire more than dark energy which is the power he usually had.

 

[Doc Monocle]

I feel like with Nobunaga taking the center in Samurai Warriors 5 probably make him more likely to be chosen among the crowds and also more than Yukimura (feel like I always forgot about him), in any case Nobunaga is somewhat the series definitive main protagonist and antagonist at the same time. Also, it's a must that he have to had an alternate costume based on his younger look from SM5 but idk if a difference in personality and power matter much because from what we've seen his attack involved fire more than dark energy which is the power he usually had.

I did not know that about him having a greater elemental affiliation for fire. For all that I speak, I reference Warriors Orochi 2 and 3, and Samurai Warriors before 3. It is somewhat upsetting since fire seems one of the most frequently used attack effects in gaming, and the dark color of the alternative fits Nobunaga's behavior in the Samurai Warriors series (at least up to 3).

 

[ninjahmos]

I have debated for a long time whether I would support this.

Reasons I would: He is a very significant Tecmo Koei character appearing in multiple series, he has his own game, I have played a number of Warriors games, there is plenty of potential for an interesting moveset, few characters in Smash Bros make extensive use of the 'darkness' effect (perhaps with enough fighters using 'darkness,' development would have ideas for giving it a practical, as opposed to aesthetic, use in combat), and his gameplay could be intriguingly distinctive in contrast to other sword wielders.

Reasons I would not: He is another sword fighter (swords are somewhat cliché in gaming), Samurai Warriors names him and portrays his story after a historical figure (would that not make him borderline fourth-party?) ... Hmmm... I suppose it is not too bad after all.

Considering all, the reasons outweigh the anti-reasons, so I support. (to clear one psychological hurdle, I shall call him a 'three-and-one-half' party character.)

I feel like with Nobunaga taking the center in Samurai Warriors 5 probably make him more likely to be chosen among the crowds and also more than Yukimura (feel like I always forgot about him), in any case Nobunaga is somewhat the series definitive main protagonist and antagonist at the same time. Also, it's a must that he have to had an alternate costume based on his younger look from SM5 but idk if a difference in personality and power matter much because from what we've seen his attack involved fire more than dark energy which is the power he usually had.

I do think more characters with dark energy powers for Smash would be cool, especially Nobunaga. Besides, I'd say he's one of Koei Tecmo's most recognizable characters, although maybe not as recognizable as Ryu Hayabusa.