Isaac for DLC - One day. Some day. Golden Sunday.

[N3ON]

And now GS is the top selling VC game in France, and the third overall on the eShop.

Very nice to see.

 

[MAGMIS]

Isaac was also on Japan players char demand list when brawl was coming out.

http://smashboards.com/threads/characters-on-sakurais-poll.71872/

Hopefully he doesn't become an Assist Trophy, but a character.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Isaac was also on Japan players char demand list when brawl was coming out.

http://smashboards.com/threads/characters-on-sakurais-poll.71872/

Hopefully he doesn't become an Assist Trophy, but a character.

I really hope so.

There's a lot of names on that list, at least it shows Sakurai has considered the possibility of a playable Golden Sun rep.

 

[M23-X0]

Isaac was also on Japan players char demand list when brawl was coming out.

http://smashboards.com/threads/characters-on-sakurais-poll.71872/

Hopefully he doesn't become an Assist Trophy, but a character.

Felix is in that list as well^^ Golden Sun was really popular at that time, too bad the timing was so bad

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Felix is in that list as well^^ Golden Sun was really popular at that time, too bad the timing was so bad

Well, he's quickly risen to the head of the pack in terms of ATs who could be promoted. Starfy, Saki, Samurai Goroh, Lyn, Waluigi are all out.

He's more relevant than Ray, so I think he still has a fighting chance.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

He's pretty much his own enemy at this point. Since even his biggest (and arguably only realistic) opponent Saki is gone.

As already said his only remaining reasonable assist trophy opponent is Ray and I don't think he'll get in over Isaac.

 

[BluePikmin11]

He also has Tingle to compete with.

 

[Kind Dedede]

People actually want to play as tingle? Isaac should be included, no reason why they can't include new franchises rather then just keep fluff long their core ones with rehashed people over & over.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

He also has Tingle to compete with.

Tingle has the western world to compete with.

 

[N3ON]

I really hope so.

There's a lot of names on that list, at least it shows Sakurai has considered the possibility of a playable Golden Sun rep.

Pretty sure that list only signifies characters requested via submission to the site, not ones actually considered by Sakurai.

That said, I can't imagine the thought never crossed his mind at one point or another.

 

[DMurr]

So, I'm playing Golden Sun for the first time on the Wii U virtual console. I wanted to see what all the fuss is about... OH MY GOD I CANNOT PUT IT DOWN.

It has been literally years since I could sit and play a video game for longer than 2 hours without getting bored or wanting to do something else. This game is fantastic! I'm nearing the end and it makes me sad because I can't play the sequel (yet). Hopefully when they do decide to put up The Lost Age up on VC it's not a long time from now.

My one gripe is that the cutscenes get a little wordy sometimes.

 

[Arteen]

The Lost Age probably won't be released for a while, but that will give you plenty of time to write down the gold transfer password.

 

[Deleted member]

So lets talk pic of the day:

We didn't introduce ALL of the assist trophies in the smash bros. direct.

And so the frightening battle of whether Isaac will be shown as an AT before E3 begins....

 

[Staarih]

I sure hope Isaac isn't an AT this time around... but looking at Dillon, at least his model would likely look gorgeous nonetheless.

 

[Accursed]

Another casualty. Hopefully Isaac isn't one.

 

[Bassoonist]

I sure hope Isaac isn't an AT this time around... but looking at Dillon, at least his model would likely look gorgeous nonetheless.

However, Dillon having such a quality model seems to be the exception. If you look at Waluigi, he doesn't look much better - if any - than he did in Brawl. So if Isaac is an AT again, he might get the same treatment. =(

 

[jweb22]

I'm honestly not worried about it. I'd be pretty shocked if Isaac or Matthew wasn't playable. Though this is Sakurai we're talking about so I shouldn't have much faith that it will happen. The only good thing that could happen from Isaac being an AT is if it's adult Issac so the chance of Matthew being playable would increase.

 

[Arteen]

Honestly Isaac didn't look that hot in Brawl, so he'd stick out pretty badly if they ported his model straight over.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Dillon got deconfirmed today, you might as well stop deluding yourselves and stop setting yourself up for disappointment

I kid, Isaac looks all sorts of amazing. And from what I see, he has such a diverse moveset and so many fans that making him an Assist Trophy again would be wasteful. He's humanoid and has his own music from Brawl!

But if I did believe that Isaac wasn't going to make it in, my biggest argument would be the fact that Sakurai hasn't talked about or teased him. Deconfirmations come deadly, but are always swift and without buildup.

 

[Bassoonist]

Honestly Isaac didn't look that hot in Brawl, so he'd stick out pretty badly if they ported his model straight over.

Well, I would say Waluigi doesn't look so hot in this game. lol.

I could see it being ported over, but with updated textures.

I know this is kind of - no, really - shallow, but part of the reason I want to see Isaac playable is because I want to see what he would look with a quality 3D (and now HD) model. I still have a hard time picturing it in my mind, so if he gets confirmed playable, that will be something to look forward to for me.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Come on guys, let's have hope.

Isaac for Smash 4 and Dillon for Smash-Not-4.

And now GS is the top selling VC game in France, and the third overall on the eShop.

Very nice to see.

I wouldn't be surprised if this did well in the states. People seriously underestimate the Mother and Golden Sun fanbase. Especially Golden Sun, but that is easy to overlook.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Come on guys, let's have hope.

Isaac for Smash 4 and Dillon for Smash-Not-4.
.

Agreed.

 

[Leafeon523]

If Isaac was to be revealed as a playable character, when do you think it would happen: pre e3, at e3, post e3, or not announced until the game's release?

 

[Thirdkoopa]

If Isaac was to be revealed as a playable character, when do you think it would happen: pre e3, at e3, post e3, or not announced until the game's release?

It really depends on unlockables this time, but Isaac is a big enough bomb to be around E3 time.

 

[jweb22]

If Isaac was to be revealed as a playable character, when do you think it would happen: pre e3, at e3, post e3, or not announced until the game's release?

I would have to say unlockable character. Assuming Isaac got the upgrade from AT to playable then we can compare him to Little Mac.

In Brawl, Little Mac was a starting AT so it makes sense for him to be a starting character, but Isaac was a surprise unlockable AT so if he is playable then it would make sense for him to be a surprise for after the games release.

 

[N3ON]

I could see Isaac as a starter, but tbh he seems like he'd be a prime choice for an unlockable character at this point. In which case he'd probably not be revealed until... he gets leaked, either sometime the week before release when everything is getting leaked, or maybe even prior to that.

So, I'm playing Golden Sun for the first time on the Wii U virtual console. I wanted to see what all the fuss is about... OH MY GOD I CANNOT PUT IT DOWN.

It has been literally years since I could sit and play a video game for longer than 2 hours without getting bored or wanting to do something else. This game is fantastic! I'm nearing the end and it makes me sad because I can't play the sequel (yet). Hopefully when they do decide to put up The Lost Age up on VC it's not a long time from now.

My one gripe is that the cutscenes get a little wordy sometimes.

It's great to hear that GS can still have this sort of impact on people. It really is a great game that rarely is been given the attention it deserves.

But yeah it totally gets wordy at points.

 

[Doncalot]

Anyone who remembers how many characters for SSBB they announced before it's release?

 

[N3ON]

Anyone who remembers how many characters for SSBB they announced before it's release?

They announced all the starters plus the third-parties before release, which was 27 characters iirc.

They had all leaked before the street date in one form or another though.

Don't really see how this pertains to Isaac...

 

[Altais]

Sort of off-topic: Does anyone remember when Brawl's soundtrack was leaked? I know for a fact all the songs were out on the net before the game's release; I just cannot remember when. I was thinking that if Smash 4's soundtrack gets leaked prior to the 3DS release, perhaps we could check for any Golden Sun tracks. If there is more than one Golden Sun tune, perhaps that could signify a Golden Sun stage, and thus maybe a playable character. The recent leak of Mario Kart 8's soundtrack kind of gave me this idea.

Heh Heh, I will probably get an Ether Bullet shot at me for saying this, but... Speaking of soundtracks, given the made-up rivalry between Isaac and Shulk, wouldn't it be ironic if Isaac was playable and Shulk wasn't, and then the Golden Sun stage had a Xenoblade tune?

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Sort of off-topic: Does anyone remember when Brawl's soundtrack was leaked? I know for a fact all the songs were out on the net before the game's release; I just cannot remember when. I was thinking that if Smash 4's soundtrack gets leaked prior to the 3DS release, perhaps we could check for any Golden Sun tracks. If there is more than one Golden Sun tune, perhaps that could signify a Golden Sun stage, and thus maybe a playable character. The recent leak of Mario Kart 8's soundtrack kind of gave me this idea.

Heh Heh, I will probably get an Ether Bullet shot at me for saying this, but... Speaking of soundtracks, given the made-up rivalry between Isaac and Shulk, wouldn't it be ironic if Isaac was playable and Shulk wasn't, and then the Golden Sun stage had a Xenoblade tune?

I remember that for some reason, Golden Sun music played on Norfair last time.

 

[Kamikazek]

But if I did believe that Isaac wasn't going to make it in, my biggest argument would be the fact that Sakurai hasn't talked about or teased him. Deconfirmations come deadly, but are always swift and without buildup.

Confirmations also usually come swift and without buildup. Previous to their trailers Sakurai didn't do anything at all to indicate Greninja would be playable for instance, and all Little Mac and Rosalina had to go off of were vaguely relivant stages, which especially didn't mean much for Rosalina. Sakurai doesn't really make a habit of hinting at unrevealed characters. It's all just anyone's guess.

They announced all the starters plus the third-parties before release, which was 27 characters iirc.

They had all leaked before the street date in one form or another though.

Don't really see how this pertains to Isaac...

They leaked well before the game came out, but people didn't actually agree which leaks were true until people in Japan actually started posted pictures from subspace when the game was released in Japan or very shortly before. I imagine the situation here will be the same. There will be a legit leak but no one will believe it and we'll be arguing about who's in until release or a few days before when someone makes off with an actual copy.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

So many of us think Isaac may be an unlockable playable character....

How difficult do you think he'll be to unlock? Would he be one of the first to be unlocked or one of the last? (Or somewhere in between)

Personally I think he'd be a middle to late unlock. So assuming there were 15 unlockables, I think Isaac would be the 9th-12th unlocked.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

So many of us think Isaac may be an unlockable playable character....

How difficult do you think he'll be to unlock? Would he be one of the first to be unlocked or one of the last? (Or somewhere in between)

I'd guess somewhere like Marth, assuming they keep unlockables around.

 

[Arteen]

I remember hunting through the soundtrack as soon as it leaked. I was disappointed to find only one song, but it was a pretty awesome song.

 

[N3ON]

So many of us think Isaac may be an unlockable playable character....

How difficult do you think he'll be to unlock? Would he be one of the first to be unlocked or one of the last? (Or somewhere in between)

I don't imagine he'd be overly difficult to unlock, as there'd probably be enough GS content that it'd be strange if he was hidden away until towards the very end.

There haven't really been too many non-G&W/ROB-esque series hidden relatively deep into the game.

 

[Doncalot]

They announced all the starters plus the third-parties before release, which was 27 characters iirc.

They had all leaked before the street date in one form or another though.

Don't really see how this pertains to Isaac...

Ah, sorry if I was a bit unclear, was just thinking of the odds of them announcing a potential Isaac before launch.

I think I read somewhere though that they would have cinematic trailers for all newcomers? Not sure though.

 

[N3ON]

Ah, sorry if I was a bit unclear, was just thinking of the odds of them announcing a potential Isaac before launch.

I think I read somewhere though that they would have cinematic trailers for all newcomers? Not sure though.

Yes, there will be a trailer for all the newcomers, which is a good point, but tbh I could see them saving a few trailers to be unlocked in-game along with the hidden character, even with Sakurai's anti-CG trailer-leaking agenda.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Yes, there will be a trailer for all the newcomers, which is a good point, but tbh I could see them saving a few trailers to be unlocked in-game along with the hidden character, even with Sakurai's anti-CG trailer-leaking agenda.

Of course. Why spoil the surprise so soon when you can have fun with secret characters?

 

[ToothiestAura]

Yes, there will be a trailer for all the newcomers, which is a good point, but tbh I could see them saving a few trailers to be unlocked in-game along with the hidden character, even with Sakurai's anti-CG trailer-leaking agenda.

Actually, he wants these to be spread on the internet because he sees that as beneficial, at least that seems to be the vibe I'm getting:

"Unfortunately, the movie scenes we worked hard to create were uploaded onto the internet." Sakurai lamented. "You can only truly wow a player the first time he sees [a cutscene]. I felt if players saw the cutscenes outside of the game, they would no longer serve as rewards for playing the game, so I've decided against having them."

Rather than letting a setback ruin things completely, Sakurai has focused on having video sequences that would instead potentially benefit by being spread around. This has led to the new character intro video sequences for the Villager, Mega Man, and the Wii Fit Trainer. Sakurai expressed a desire to make similar videos for all subsequent new characters.

Source: http://kotaku.com/the-next-super-smash-bros-wont-have-a-story-mode-or-c-906856304

 

[N3ON]

Actually, he wants these to be spread on the internet because he sees that as beneficial, at least that seems to be the vibe I'm getting:

Source: http://kotaku.com/the-next-super-smash-bros-wont-have-a-story-mode-or-c-906856304

The vibe I'm getting is that Sakurai feels you only get wowed by a cutscene/trailer once, and if they're leaking onto the internet that takes away from experiencing them in-game, where Sakurai intended them to be found last time around. That's why this time he's making them with the intent to be found on the internet instead, which is why him hiding some away to be found in the game would seemingly go against his principles, as it would definitely leak before people following the game could find it.

That said, I still think he will leave some to be found in-game, because Sakurai says a lot of things.