Zulyar
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i support both matthew and isaac will be fine, also verry possible alternate costumes to have both in the same slot
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My thoughts exactly. Until the day where they showed Golden Sun VC, I had made my mind that Isaac would not be playable. But now, hope has resurfaced and I'm hoping Isaac for the next Nintendo Direct. If he's not showing up in April, then I'll be crushed forever.I was suddenly overcome yesterday by a scarily irrational "gut feeling" that Isaac will be the next newcomer revealed in April.
I know I'm more than likely setting myself up for disappointment, but something about the current scenario makes it feel "right".
Do you think a Nintendo direct would happen as early in the month as April 3rd though? Considering that's when Golden Sun VC is being released.
Well I don't think we should be crushed, Isaac could very easily be a secret unlockable. (He was one of just two unlockable ATs after all)My thoughts exactly. Until the day where they showed Golden Sun VC, I had made my mind that Isaac would not be playable. But now, hope has resurfaced and I'm hoping Isaac for the next Nintendo Direct. If he's not showing up in April, then I'll be crushed forever.
I totally agree, the playable characters were awful.If Golden Sun 4 ever comes out, I'd hope they really improve on what Dark Dawn offered.
If not, I'd rather have them just do a remake of Golden Sun 1+2 for the 3DS. That would be fantastic.
That would be really really great and they can use them to promote Issac in Smash Bros..If Golden Sun 4 ever comes out, I'd hope they really improve on what Dark Dawn offered.
If not, I'd rather have them just do a remake of Golden Sun 1+2 for the 3DS. That would be fantastic.
I can't say I disagree with that at all. However, it wasn't too far out there from the werewolves in Garoh in The Lost Age... I know they never ended up being a team member, and stuff... But still, when I thought of the beastmen idea being stupid, I isntantly remembered Garoh and was like "Oh..."However, then it got dumb, Sveta and this whole Beastman idea was incredibly stupid.
I totally agree, the playable characters were awful.
It started out ok with Matthew, Karis, Tyrell, then Mia had the twins with Rief and Nowell, and then we find out Amiti is possibly Alex's son.
Getting Amiti that soon after really overshadowed Reif...
However, then it got dumb, Sveta and this whole Beastman idea was incredibly stupid.
O-oh, I rather liked Sveta and the Beastmen(but mainly Sveta)...
Then we find the second Mars Adept to be a let down, Eoleo, really, he was a descendant of a npc.
I don't really see how that's a let down, That NPC was important at some point
Same with Himi, in fact Himi was just pointless.
Yeah she was just there to have that third eye thing..
I hope having to put up with Himi, we get Felix's son in Golden Sun 4 instead.
IF he has a son.
I would love to play as Nowell, she reminds me of Mia and Mia is my favorite Adept to play as in Golden Sun and GS The Lost Age.
I'd fully agree, I'm almost certain she'll be playable next time
I'm also not really into getting Golden Sun on the Wii U VC, I have to just say I hate RPGs on the game console, I like them better on the handheld consoles, like how Pokémon is on the 3ds.
I agree, being able to bring the adventure with you is makes trips much better.
This, so much.It felt like the game should have focused on Matthew, Tyrell, Karis and Rief. Then in Golden Sun 4 add Amiti, Eoleo, Sveta and Himi to the team. Like what happened in the first two games.
My main issue was how the plot progressed, you spent so long on a quest (getting some feather) that didn't really seem that important. Then almost as soon as things start really happening it's over. It felt a bit like a glorified prologue.
The Sleep Bomb and the Bramble Seed could make interesting items.I just started replaying the first Golden Sun, since it's been so long since I played it. Currently I'm inside Tret. (think deku tree)
It's making me think about possible items that could represent Golden Sun in smash Bros. It's kinda hard to find an item that really sticks out that doesn't do something an existing smash item already does though.
I was thinking a psyenergy stone: http://goldensunwiki.net/Psynergy_Stone
but I'm not certain what it would do since it restores psynergy points (mp) rather than health.
Alternatively if Isaac didn't use Djinn in his moveset a variety of them could appear as "items" similar to pokeball pokemon.
Anyone have some ideas for items?
Im really critic with Dark Dawn, but i wouldnt say that the characters were awful, some characters are acceptable and others are mediocre. It wasnt the worst thing of the game. Matthew at the beginning was sightly different from the final design, at least that seems to show the first trailer but for some reason Camelot needed to make him more like a clone of Isaac. Descendants of first game are in general acceptable.I totally agree, the playable characters were awful.
It started out ok with Matthew, Karis, Tyrell, then Mia had the twins with Rief and Nowell, and then we find out Amiti is possibly Alex's son.
However, then it got dumb, Sveta and this whole Beastman idea was incredibly stupid.
Then we find the second Mars Adept to be a let down, Eoleo, really, he was a descendant of a npc.
Same with Himi, in fact Himi was just pointless.
I hope having to put up with Himi, we get Felix's son in Golden Sun 4 instead.
I'm not sure what they'd do regarding replacing Eoleo, but imo a Proxian like Saturos, Menardi, Karst and Agatio would be a interesting character to use.
I am totally clueless about what they'd do with the second Jupiter Adept, all I know is I'd like to see something like Sheba since Karis lacks psychic abilities and Sveta was a piece of garbage.
I would love to play as Nowell, she reminds me of Mia and Mia is my favorite Adept to play as in Golden Sun and GS The Lost Age.
If they were to replace Amiti, I wouldn't mind seeing a Lemurian character.
Then there's the Antagonists, Blados and Chalis sucked, just use Arcanus is what I have to say about the Antagonists.
Yeah I hope we do see the first two games remade, we totally need to see Golden Sun with these amazing 3ds graphics.
I'm also not really into getting Golden Sun on the Wii U VC, I have to just say I hate RPGs on the game console, I like them better on the handheld consoles, like how Pokémon is on the 3ds.
That would be really really great and they can use them to promote Issac in Smash Bros..
I think they'd combine the team of GS4 and Matthew's team.Im really critic with Dark Dawn, but i wouldnt say that the characters were awful, some characters are acceptable and others are mediocre. It wasnt the worst thing of the game. Matthew at the beginning was sightly different from the final design, at least that seems to show the first trailer but for some reason Camelot needed to make him more like a clone of Isaac. Descendants of first game are in general acceptable.
From the other 4 characters, Amiti is the son of Alex and i liked the character, those "we are not going to help that dirty pirate" dialogues are priceless.
To be fair, Eoleo was one of the most expected characters to be playable in a possible sequel to TLA. We basically get him for the ship and he promised to take revenge but at the end it doents fell that he takes revenge at all.
Then we have Sveta, while the Beastmen is an stupid idea, she brings something sightly different in gameplay. And after all Sveta was the main protagonist of Dark Dawn, really. Think about it, Isaac is main protagonist of GS because the wise one sends him to recover elemental stars and because he wants to save Jenna and Kraden. Felix is the main protagonist of TLA because he is destined to liberate the Alchemy to save the world. The most memorable thing of Matthew is that he is Isaacs son and that it was sended to acomplish a ******** mission, in other hand Sveta history is way more intense.
About Himi, well, she is autistic, she wouldnt speak, with the exception of those "trances".
Dark Dawn pointed many things about the possible 4th game, first it seems that is going to take place mainly in the west sea. And two likely characters are Takeru and Nowell. Takeru, if you dont remember is the brother of Himi... That dont says much of him, but he can not really do it worse and probably being an Earth Adept he is maybe the main character, so he can be muted with justification. According to the encyclopedya: "This courageous warrior is the son of Susa and Kushinada, making him the prince of Yamata and heir apparent. After his sister, Himi, had a vision of the world in peril, he went abroad on an important mission." And he aparently was going to help Isaac. Considering this if i had to select 4 character for a sequel to Dark Dawn...
*Takeru, a proxian, descendent of Felix-Sheba wind adept-warrior type and Nowell... However if they want to add innecessary characters, Venus adept of Shaman village, A dwarf of Loho with Mars psynergy?, Jupiter adept of Contigo and a 2nd Lemurian, there we are 8 characters.
Felix and Piers possible going to have a non-playable role and the game is going to mention that Sheba is in a town that we cant go.
Im really critic with Dark Dawn, but i wouldnt say that the characters were awful, some characters are acceptable and others are mediocre. It wasnt the worst thing of the game. Matthew at the beginning was sightly different from the final design, at least that seems to show the first trailer but for some reason Camelot needed to make him more like a clone of Isaac. Descendants of first game are in general acceptable.
From the other 4 characters, Amiti is the son of Alex and i liked the character, those "we are not going to help that dirty pirate" dialogues are priceless.
To be fair, Eoleo was one of the most expected characters to be playable in a possible sequel to TLA. We basically get him for the ship and he promised to take revenge but at the end it doents fell that he takes revenge at all.
Then we have Sveta, while the Beastmen is an stupid idea, she brings something sightly different in gameplay. And after all Sveta was the main protagonist of Dark Dawn, really. Think about it, Isaac is main protagonist of GS because the wise one sends him to recover elemental stars and because he wants to save Jenna and Kraden. Felix is the main protagonist of TLA because he is destined to liberate the Alchemy to save the world. The most memorable thing of Matthew is that he is Isaacs son and that it was sended to acomplish a ******** mission, in other hand Sveta history is way more intense.
About Himi, well, she is autistic, she wouldnt speak, with the exception of those "trances".
Dark Dawn pointed many things about the possible 4th game, first it seems that is going to take place mainly in the west sea. And two likely characters are Takeru and Nowell. Takeru, if you dont remember is the brother of Himi... That dont says much of him, but he can not really do it worse and probably being an Earth Adept he is maybe the main character, so he can be muted with justification. According to the encyclopedya: "This courageous warrior is the son of Susa and Kushinada, making him the prince of Yamata and heir apparent. After his sister, Himi, had a vision of the world in peril, he went abroad on an important mission." And he aparently was going to help Isaac. Considering this if i had to select 4 character for a sequel to Dark Dawn...
*Takeru, a proxian, descendent of Felix-Sheba wind adept-warrior type and Nowell... However if they want to add innecessary characters, Venus adept of Shaman village, A dwarf of Loho with Mars psynergy?, Jupiter adept of Contigo and a 2nd Lemurian, there we are 8 characters.
Felix and Piers possible going to have a non-playable role and the game is going to mention that Sheba is in a town that we cant go.
I knew for Takeru and Nowell, and obviously they'll be playable characters. However, because we know that Nowell is with Piers, and that Piers is a good old friend of Felix, I'm convinced that Felix's and Sheba's son will be playable. In my opinion, the hero will be the son, Nowell will be the heroine, and in the same way that Isaac and Garet helped the protagonists in Golden Sun 3, Piers and Felix will do the same. I know it's all speculation, but as mentioned, it seems logical that the main character is as the following :I think they'd combine the team of GS4 and Matthew's team.
I'm not playing as this stupid Takaru guy, especially for him to be the main guy to play as, I'd much rather Felix have a son or daughter to be the main character.
The reason for this is I loved Felix in Lost Age, in fact I like Felix more than Isaac, therefore if Isaac's descendant was the main character in Dark Dawn, it's only right for Felix's descendant to be the main guy in GS4, either that or keep Matthew the main character, therefore keep Felix's descendant a Earth Adept.
It would be absolutely terrible making the main guy you play as Takeru, a descendant of npcs from Lost Age and brother of Himi, the most hated Adept like ever.
I think the Proxian Mars Adept idea would be like the new Sveta idea, think about it, it introduces a scythe user, like Magus in Crono Trigger, and it's like playing as good Saturos.
As for Jupiter Adept, I was thinking that could be Hama's descendant, and those of you who forgot Hama, she's Ivan's sister.
Then we get Nowell as the Mercury Adept.
* - If he has a sonI knew for Takeru and Nowell, and obviously they'll be playable characters. However, because we know that Nowell is with Piers, and that Piers is a good old friend of Felix, I'm convinced that Felix's and Sheba's son will be playable. In my opinion, the hero will be the son, Nowell will be the heroine, and in the same way that Isaac and Garet helped the protagonists in Golden Sun 3, Piers and Felix will do the same. I know it's all speculation, but as mentioned, it seems logical that the main character is as the following :
I also hope that Alex's son will be playable again, and that Alex will have more spotlight in the new game ! Camelot really need to develop Golden Sun 4. Moreover, at the end of Golden Sun 3 we know that there is new psynergies : light and dark.
- Golden Sun 1 -> Isaac
- Golden Sun 2 -> Felix
- Golden Sun 3 -> Isaac's son
- Golden Sun 4 -> Felix's son*
Because you can only use 4 characters at a time, I would be there for hours deciding who to use out of 20 something people!Why not have a huge cast of characters, like Fire Emblem in a way?
I'm not sure if adepts just change like that, I think it was people who weren't adepts before become Light and Dark Adepts?Bet we gonna see Dark Dawn's cast, or a few of them. If there's Light Adepts, Isaac can become one, having absorbed some light of the Golden Sun and all. He could be a uber unit.
Like a prequel? I'm pretty sure that one of the protagonists would be an ancestor of Isaac or Felix in that case.Considering even Dark Dawn's "promise" of the black holes happening and such wasn't as exciting as the original games, perhaps a prequel would be a better way to go.
A game about the sealing of alchemy and the lighthouses would be interesting.
Yeah, playing Dark Dawn with 30 or so characters would be horrendous. Besides a fire emblem size playable cast works better in tile based strategy RPGs. (Where there's more focus on it being an army) I don't think it would make sense in a traditional jrpg.I wouldn't want a Fire Emblem sized set of playable characters. That results in most characters having little if anything to do with the plot. Dark Dawn had trouble making its eight characters all feel worthwhile.
Nah, I don't think goal of Golden Sun is to use lots of partners. Unless there was an MMORPG of sorts.Why not have a huge cast of characters, like Fire Emblem in a way?
I think Alex should just fly solo and be the antagonist, Chalis and Blados were terrible.I knew for Takeru and Nowell, and obviously they'll be playable characters. However, because we know that Nowell is with Piers, and that Piers is a good old friend of Felix, I'm convinced that Felix's and Sheba's son will be playable. In my opinion, the hero will be the son, Nowell will be the heroine, and in the same way that Isaac and Garet helped the protagonists in Golden Sun 3, Piers and Felix will do the same. I know it's all speculation, but as mentioned, it seems logical that the main character is as the following :
I also hope that Alex's son will be playable again, and that Alex will have more spotlight in the new game ! Camelot really need to develop Golden Sun 4. Moreover, at the end of Golden Sun 3 we know that there is new psynergies : light and dark.
- Golden Sun 1 -> Isaac
- Golden Sun 2 -> Felix
- Golden Sun 3 -> Isaac's son
- Golden Sun 4 -> Felix's son
I'd like to see maybe Felix's daughter too, I'd like to see maybe Felix's son perhaps have a brother or sister, one can be Earth and one can be Wind, that's be neat, this would also be similar to how Felix traveled with his sister Jenna, except this time she is a Jupiter Adept and she looks like Sheba.I wouldn't want a Fire Emblem sized set of playable characters. That results in most characters having little if anything to do with the plot. Dark Dawn had trouble making its eight characters all feel worthwhile.
The Lost Age did fine though. And if it's mostly the old cast, why wouldn't they? All the characters have enough back story for it to work.I wouldn't want a Fire Emblem sized set of playable characters. That results in most characters having little if anything to do with the plot. Dark Dawn had trouble making its eight characters all feel worthwhile.
I wouldn't mind it, after all we play a rpg with over 700 characters to use with Pokémon.The Lost Age did fine though. And if it's mostly the old cast, why wouldn't they? All the characters have enough back story for it to work.