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Isaac for DLC - One day. Some day. Golden Sunday.

Coaltergeist

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Roy is awesome, glad he's changed a bit. Lucas is like he was in Brawl and I like that, Ryu is stiff for me. I don't like his mechanics that much. ALSO HE SPEAKS ENGLISH WHY? and he only says Tatsumaki Senpukyaku when doing the SF input which is stupid. Need more money for Mother and need to save for Isaac and K Rool if they get made.
He speaks English in SF4...
also Mother 1 localization + Lucas DLC = totally confirmed Mother 3 localization!
Right?
Waiting for that GS4 soft-announcement Tuesday
 
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I only bought Roy, Lucas and Zero custom, after that, I was out of money and since I'm getting a Wii U this summer, by that time, I'll buy another e-shop card and then, buy Ryu and Dreamland.
 

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I like how Sunday was IMO the best E3 day ever, and it wasn't even an official day of E3. That's incredibly ironic. The Smash Direct, Nintendo World Championships, and Bethesda E3 Conference were all A+++ showcases and were each damn near perfect. Kudos to Nintendo and Bethesda for their incredible showcases.
I definitely think we need to have more realistic expectations in terms of trophies though.

We'll probably get three Isaac related trophies (Classic, All-Star, Final Smash) and then a trophy of whatever Assist Trophy they add (So probably Felix)
I think Ryu/Street Fighter set the standard that series getting their first character get another character as a trophy. If Isaac is playable ,that roll will likely be filled by Matthew. Additionally, Matthew and/or Felix may "replace" Isaac as an Assist Trophy character, although that's stretching things. A stage... I'm 50/50 on the odds of it.

Ultimately the odds bear down on how many ballot characters get in, as well as whether a character was worked on prior to becoming DLC. Isaac may have been a "cut in actual development" character (like I assume Lucas and especially Ryu were), and if he were, the chances of us getting extra Golden Sun content is substantially higher.
I could be wrong but even if it's a godsend music (just like every other Golden Sun song, don't get me wrong), it's not the more fitting one for a fighting game like Smash Bros, no?
I've had The First Book on Castle Siege in my Project M build for 3 years, and it works great. It really fits that Medieval atmosphere especially well.
 
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Maybe not flood the Miiverse stage itself, but Miiverse, esp. for Golden Sun and TLA could use some more Isaac love.
*cough*IKnowIt'sNotIsaacBut*cough* Is anyone else enjoying the new fighters? Love me some Roy action; he's pretty great too.
I like Lucas quite a lot. I went through Classic mode pretty much up smashing everyone into a pulp. :p

Roy is different enough that I'm satisfied. His attacks are actually more satisfying to land than Marth or Lucina......there's a sort of oomph to them.

Ryu is fairly fun although I don't know if I'll be able to use him to his full potential.

Also, if you look at the Inkling costume from the back it totally looks like the Inklings are in Smash.
 
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Roy is definitely amazing. And I like Lucas to, but I still hugely prefer Ness. Am happy both came back however, as fans of their character and their games. I actually did play both FE6 and Mother 3, and loved the hell out of them. So I'm even more excited to see the last of my favorite GBA heroes make it into Smash, namely: Isaac!

It's rather ironic how much similarities there are between Roy, Lucas and Isaac honestly. Isaac has psychic powers, just like Lucas, and is a great swordsman despite his age like Roy. All 3 hail from critically aclaimed GBA titles as well. I at least think that Golden Sun, TLA, Mother 3, and FE6 are amongst the best GBA titles. Just speaking of them alone makes me want to play FE6, Mother 3 and Golden Sun again!
 

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Roy's seriously gotten a way better design. From having an actual skillset that isn't a weaker Marth, a playstyle that promotes unique offensive play, and a moveset that is more intuitive and original (he's a lot less of a clone than before), his redesign is truly great.

That unique new sword fighting style in addition to Shulk's great new sword fighting style (and even Robin's) gives me hope that Isaac could have a unique and fascinating such style. You can really feel the work of the Bamco Soul Caliber staff in their design of sword wielding characters in Smash 4, and it is definitely a net positive.
 

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One would hope that Isaac's playstyle would still revolve more around psynergy than swordplay even with Soul Calibur staff possibly having a hand in its creation.

He could be completely unique even if he only used his sword, but his Venus psynergy is truly what sets him apart.

Also I still think Matthew is likelier than not going to end up an alt over a trophy should we get Isaac. It just makes too much sense.
 

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One would hope that Isaac's playstyle would still revolve more around psynergy than swordplay even with Soul Calibur staff possibly having a hand in its creation.

He could be completely unique even if he only used his sword, but his Venus psynergy is truly what sets him apart.

Also I still think Matthew is likelier than not going to end up an alt over a trophy should we get Isaac. It just makes too much sense.
Just like :4ryu: getting a Ken alt.
 

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Currently, I have 2 mains (Pikachu and Ness) and I bought both Lucas and Roy and they are both awesome, that I can't decide which one should become the 3rd main.

Also, do you guys think that tomorrow is there any chance for us to get a 3rd DLC character announced (that would probably end up being released in August, following the 2 month DLC pattern)?
 

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Just like :4ryu: getting a Ken alt.
I personally never thought that would happen. I did think he'd get a Ken palette swap though.

Getting Matthew is a little different though, it covers new and potentially future GS games. It's akin to getting Alph, except Matthew and Isaac are even more similar than Alph and Olimar.
 

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I' trying to contain the hype...
But I just can't help it. Waiting for tomorrow's GS4 announcement; it's totally not going to happen!
Roy is definitely amazing. And I like Lucas to, but I still hugely prefer Ness. Am happy both came back however, as fans of their character and their games. I actually did play both FE6 and Mother 3, and loved the hell out of them. So I'm even more excited to see the last of my favorite GBA heroes make it into Smash, namely: Isaac!

It's rather ironic how much similarities there are between Roy, Lucas and Isaac honestly. Isaac has psychic powers, just like Lucas, and is a great swordsman despite his age like Roy. All 3 hail from critically aclaimed GBA titles as well. I at least think that Golden Sun, TLA, Mother 3, and FE6 are amongst the best GBA titles. Just speaking of them alone makes me want to play FE6, Mother 3 and Golden Sun again!
Also Roy can do this:
 
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Ryu can do THIS!

I hope Isaac's sword gets used for 4 attacks or so
Damn Ryu's fine. Anyone else here play any other fighters? I've dabbled in MK and SF, and I'm not awful at them, but Ryu's moves seem pretty difficult to throw out, especially the true Shoryuken.
 

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Damn Ryu's fine. Anyone else here play any other fighters? I've dabbled in MK and SF, and I'm not awful at them, but Ryu's moves seem pretty difficult to throw out, especially the true Shoryuken.
I've dabbled in the P4 Arenas and Skullgirls.
I'm still garbage at em.
I've died due to trying to turn around dash attack with Ryu and ending up doing his friggin windmill kick away from the opponent.
 

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Damn Ryu's fine. Anyone else here play any other fighters? I've dabbled in MK and SF, and I'm not awful at them, but Ryu's moves seem pretty difficult to throw out, especially the true Shoryuken.
I've played my share of fighting games and an attack like Shoryuken is relatively basic compared to some of the stuff out there, especially combos that involve multiple attacks that require more intricate inputs. Ryu himself is a pretty easy character to use in SF compared to some of the other options.

And that's why I've never been very good at traditional fighters. x_x
 

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What we need are artists to draw Miiverse pictures of Isaac with each other character in Smash, and upvote them in the Miiverse ranks, so that anyone playing on Miiverse will see "Isaac for Smash" pictures.
Some puns and really good drawings are needed too. That's how some drawings end up being in the top drawings.
 

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Anyway, I'm working on a (terrible) fanmade Isaac trailer. What should it say on the splash screen? Need ideas.
 
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Ryu can do THIS!

I hope Isaac's sword gets used for 4 attacks or so
The fact that it's Shulk in the video that gets it made me like it so much. Sorry, can't help myself.

Anyway, I saw how much the whole thing was and holy schnike! I'm just gonna buy Ryu & Suzaku Castle, Roy, Lucas, the Dream Land 64 stage, and MegaMan.exe costume instead of the whole bundle when I get a chance.

Does anybody hope that we get more bundles down the road? I personally hope the next one is Isaac, King K. Rool, and Wolf. Besides, with Isaac, we know he'll probably be $5.99-$6.99 since he'll likely have his own stage, as well.

Besides, I gotta ask; do you think they did the right thing in making the first DLC newcomer Ryu? I would've preferred Golden Sun, naturally, but to play devil's advocate, sometimes the more marketable franchise needs to be the first one to present the significance.
 

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I've played my share of fighting games and an attack like Shoryuken is relatively basic compared to some of the stuff out there, especially combos that involve multiple attacks that require more intricate inputs. Ryu himself is a pretty easy character to use in SF compared to some of the other options.

And that's why I've never been very good at traditional fighters. x_x
One thing that's really different between SF and Sm4sh is that an input in the opposite direction won't turn you around in SF/MK/whatever. Thats a big problem when trying to do the Yoga flame in Sm4sh.

Not a big SF guy myself, but I got pretty gud at MKX; agree that there are harder button combos out there. I'm just awful at ttanslating those to smash.
 

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I sincerely hope I'm not the only one that noticed Roy's new design is taken partially from his appearance in Fire Emblem Awakening's DLC

(To break it down: His Gauntlets, boots, tunic, belt, and long flowing headband are all from Awakening. His Purple cape and chest plate, along with the design on the chest plate, are both from Melee, and the front of his headband being more headband than crown is from Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade)
 
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It's a hybrid of his FE6 and 13 looks.
Much like how :4marth:'s combine FE 1/3 (11/12) looks. or :4link: is more of a mixture of SS and TP
Hate to be a stickler, but Marth is pretty much pure FE12 with a tiny bit of Melee/Brawl's DNA in the color of his armor. Absolutely nothing was taken from 1, 3, or 11. Falchion is the only holdover from 1/3. And also there's quite a bit of Melee in Roy, like his cape and armor are clearly Melee.
 
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Roy is definitely amazing. And I like Lucas to, but I still hugely prefer Ness. Am happy both came back however, as fans of their character and their games. I actually did play both FE6 and Mother 3, and loved the hell out of them. So I'm even more excited to see the last of my favorite GBA heroes make it into Smash, namely: Isaac!

It's rather ironic how much similarities there are between Roy, Lucas and Isaac honestly. Isaac has psychic powers, just like Lucas, and is a great swordsman despite his age like Roy. All 3 hail from critically aclaimed GBA titles as well. I at least think that Golden Sun, TLA, Mother 3, and FE6 are amongst the best GBA titles. Just speaking of them alone makes me want to play FE6, Mother 3 and Golden Sun again!
I had some headcanons about Psynergy being ancient version of PSI-powers in Mother-games. Kinda overblown in some ways, but sometimes I like to think it that way.

Now that I have Lucas and Roy here, I'll be hopping full on to the Isaac's support boat to make him join both. I try to get started with Lost Age soon in order to really evaluate best ways to put my vote description for Isaac, while also going back on world of Golden Sun. Boy, it's been so long.

Imagining also getting another assist Trophy promoted to Smash would be basically most of fan's wishes granted in some margin, as oppossed to in big amounts. And well, Golden Sun finally being recongized as one of the more beloved cult RPGs from last decades Nintendo has produced.
 

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Since he's playable in BOTH Golden Sun The Broken Seal and Lost Age, I'd respectfully recommend someone to play both games 100%, and connect them, using default names so they can fully comprehend the game before making an Isaac moveset. That way you have the full scope of his abilities.
 

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Since he's playable in BOTH Golden Sun The Broken Seal and Lost Age, I'd respectfully recommend someone to play both games 100%, and connect them, using default names so they can fully comprehend the game before making an Isaac moveset. That way you have the full scope of his abilities.
Wait
Since when was GS1 called The Broken Seal
 
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Since he's playable in BOTH Golden Sun The Broken Seal and Lost Age, I'd respectfully recommend someone to play both games 100%, and connect them, using default names so they can fully comprehend the game before making an Isaac moveset. That way you have the full scope of his abilities.
Yeah, although you can edit the names if you want, it's more authentic to call the characters by their default names.

The beginning of the first one can be a little lengthy in dialogue (between the start and leaving Vale for the first time should take about an hour or so), but once you get past that, you'll love it.
 

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So Shantae has been Smashified (and she looks great!)

Hopefully Isaac is next in line!
 

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I'm bettin that the next Smashified character will be Bandanna Dee =/.
Meh. The Kirby series has enough characters. It really doesn't need anymore. I understand that the balance is probably going to be thrown off with DLC (Roy lol), but when it comes to characters that have yet to appear in the series, I'd hope we'd get better balance... Surely Isaac will beat out another Kirby character.

EDIT: Smashified... Right. Oops. Sorry, I see "Smashified" and I think "added to Smash" instead of that artist. Sorry, carry on. xD
 
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