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Isaac for DLC - One day. Some day. Golden Sunday.

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Actually, Isaac would make a lot of sence to be chosen as such a character due to his absence as an Assist Thropy indeed. It would be mad hype if he was, and for such, would be released even this year.
 

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Actually, Isaac would make a lot of sence to be chosen as such a character due to his absence as an Assist Thropy indeed. It would be mad hype if he was, and for such, would be released even this year.
I find it funny that a lot of people think that Isaac's chances are reduced because of his missing trophy!
Why would they add in less relevant characters as trophies and forget about Isaac, especially when he was a major AT in Brawl.
 

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I was out for the whole day and the internet goes crazy with the leak. I don't really care for Ryu, probably not even gonna buy his DLC, but I'm probably going to buy Roy, since I think he looks pretty awesome.

Here's hoping that Isaac will make an appearance (I mean, Ryu didn't deserve it more than Isaac, or K. Rool).
 

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I was out for the whole day and the internet goes crazy with the leak. I don't really care for Ryu, probably not even gonna buy his DLC, but I'm probably going to buy Roy, since I think he looks pretty awesome.

Here's hoping that Isaac will make an appearance (I mean, Ryu didn't deserve it more than Isaac, or K. Rool).
Just got the Final Smash footage and... Ryu has two Final Smashes!!! :surprised:
Now I want Isaac with 4 Summons! :laugh:
 

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Just got the Final Smash footage and... Ryu has two Final Smashes!!! :surprised:
Now I want Isaac with 4 Summons! :laugh:
How about he actually uses his Djinni in a sort of combination attack for one Final Smash attack, and then does a Summon for the next?
 

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So I jump on a plane and head out the west coast for a few days and Roy and Ryu get leaked.

Whee.

For the people who supported them, I'm happy for you. Go out and enjoy the game more. As for me? Well, I'm salty.

This is of course provided this leak is legit and not somebody with mad artistic skills with a death wish trying to fulfill that wish by making such a leak this close to E3.
 

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@ Chapter Serf Chapter Serf There's no way that's it, someone was playing it on twitch!
Yeah. I did see the stuff about the patch. Still, whatever. So Ryu and Roy got confirmed. Whee.

To be fair, I wasn't totally opposed to Roy, just thought there were people more deserving of the honor of being on the roster. But I was opposed to Ryu.
 

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Yeah. I did see the stuff about the patch. Still, whatever. So Ryu and Roy got confirmed. Whee.

To be fair, I wasn't totally opposed to Roy, just thought there were people more deserving of the honor of being on the roster. But I was opposed to Ryu.
Ryu is one of those characters you probably don't want to see before other Nintendo characters get in first, but it happened so roll with it, I'm not that happy about it either.
I'm just curious how Nintendo is going to handle his introduction in the game, what reasons will they give, basically...
 

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Ryu is one of those characters you probably don't want to see before other Nintendo characters get in first, but it happened so roll with it, I'm not that happy about it either.
I'm just curious how Nintendo is going to handle his introduction in the game, what reasons will they give, basically...
Perhaps that's why. The question of "Why is this non-Nintendo character getting in before other maybe not as famous (but still damn popular) Nintendo characters?" is kinda large in my opinion. Hell, Splatoon may very well save the Wii U from being just a laughingstock this generation and we're getting this dude instead of the Inkling. (Although I think it's safe to say that the Inkling will end up in Smash one day. If not 4, then 5).

I'll think on it more when I'm not buried in a salt mine.
 

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This is of course provided this leak is legit and not somebody with mad artistic skills with a death wish trying to fulfill that wish by making such a leak this close to E3.
We have gameplay footage.

A lot of it.
 

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Perhaps that's why. The question of "Why is this non-Nintendo character getting in before other maybe not as famous (but still damn popular) Nintendo characters?" is kinda large in my opinion. Hell, Splatoon may very well save the Wii U from being just a laughingstock this generation and we're getting this dude instead of the Inkling. (Although I think it's safe to say that the Inkling will end up in Smash one day. If not 4, then 5).

I'll think on it more when I'm not buried in a salt mine.
I have been saying this for a while now but the Inkling will almost surely be kept for Smash 5.
They needed to know if the game would be successful first and they can't build an intelligent moveset for them without thinking it out for a few weeks. Besides that, the game is still getting a lot of new content they could possibly draw from in the future if they wait.
DLC is a possibility, but I think they will keep them so they have at least one hype generating character in the next game.
And they could always cross promote a Splatoon 2 alongside it, since this is going to be one of their evergreen titles going forward, apparently.
Unless they get a very high placement in the ballot and Nintendo greedily decides to give their fans what they want, I don't see it happening.
But who knows what the future holds, right?
 
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I have been saying this for a while now but the Inkling will almost surely be kept for Smash 5.
They needed to know if the game would be successful first and they can't build an intelligent moveset for them without thinking it out for a few weeks. Besides that, the game is still getting a lot of new content they could possibly draw from in the future if they wait.
DLC is a possibility, but I think they will keep them so they have at least one hype generating character in the next game.
And they could always cross promote a Splatoon 2 alongside it, since this is going to be one of their evergreen titles going forward, apparently.
Unless they get a very high placement in the ballot and Nintendo greedily decides to give their fans what they want, I don't see it happening.
But who knows what the future holds, right?
Hopefully it holds Isaac. According to the actual ballot page where you vote, the ballot is running until October 3rd. I imagine the results will be released soon after, excluding already released/announced characters (Lucas, Roy and Ryu) and characters that have no chance (Cloud Strife, Master Chief and Goku).
 

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Hopefully it holds Isaac. According to the actual ballot page where you vote, the ballot is running until October 3rd. I imagine the results will be released soon after, excluding already released/announced characters (Lucas, Roy and Ryu) and characters that have no chance (Cloud Strife, Master Chief and Goku).
At the rate the team is pumping out characters, if Isaac isn't in the future somewhere I won't have faith in Sakurai and Nintendo anymore! :laugh:
I imagine they will make a Direct that same month after the results are in, or maybe they will wait so they can reveal a prototype of the winner during it (although they can start working on the top 3 before the annoucement is made so they have prototypes ready, for example...)
 

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At this rate of characters, we'll get Isaac in Smash before we get the Smashified team to finish him. And to be honest, I would love that (I mean, who wouldn't?)
 

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For all three. :4lucas::4feroy::4ryu:
Video taken down due to copyright claim.

The biggest thing I'm getting out of the Ryu addition is:
  • New "universe" icon.
  • New "universe" stage.
  • New "universe" character.
  • New "universe" trophies.
Isaac would fall directly into this category. Mewtwo, Lucas, Roy, and a lot of the top prospects (K Rool, Krystal, etc) all come from existing universes.

Just my two cents.
 

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Also music.
That Ken's theme remix is pretty dope. It' no Clamato Fever, but it's still really good.
BUT NOT THE MOST ICONIC THEME OF THE SERIES

Edit: SERIOUSLY why is there no Guile's theme
Can someone explain to me why Guile's Theme (Guile to Ryu: "Go to Smash Bros. and be a Street Fighting Man!") and the Street Fighter II HD Turbo Ken's theme remix "Clamato Fever" (for the love of God, click this link. This song is so Godlike, it made me learn how to make BRSTM's for Brawl for me to mkae to put it in my copy of Project M) aren't in Smash 4=???

(I get jacked up when listening to Clamato Fever. I've done tests in PM, and my L-cancel rate is way higher when that song plays vs. when it doesn't on the stage I have it on [Wario Ware: PM Version])

This is a war crime to video game music. Seriously, if Isaac as a DLC character with a Golden Sun stage and we don't get The First Book as a song on said stage, the Smash 4 development team are confirmed 100% music scrubs.
 

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That Ken's theme remix is pretty dope. It' no Clamato Fever, but it's still really good.

Can someone explain to me why Guile's Theme (Guile to Ryu: "Go to Smash Bros. and be a Street Fighting Man!") and the Street Fighter II HD Turbo Ken's theme remix "Clamato Fever" (for the love of God, click this link. This song is so Godlike, it made me learn how to make BRSTM's for Brawl for me to mkae to put it in my copy of Project M) aren't in Smash 4=???

(I get jacked up when listening to Clamato Fever. I've done tests in PM, and my L-cancel rate is way higher when that song plays vs. when it doesn't on the stage I have it on [Wario Ware: PM Version])

This is a war crime to video game music. Seriously, if Isaac as a DLC character with a Golden Sun stage and we don't get The First Book as a song on said stage, the Smash 4 development team are confirmed 100% music scrubs.
UGH, FIRST BOOK GOODNESS IN MAH VEINS.
 

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With Ryu not just comes a new series, but a new trophy and stage.

I think Isaac could definitely get the same treatment.
Yeah.

I definitely think we need to have more realistic expectations in terms of trophies though.

We'll probably get three Isaac related trophies (Classic, All-Star, Final Smash) and then a trophy of whatever Assist Trophy they add (So probably Felix)
 

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I can't see any more new characters revealed at E3, but we probably still have 2 more Pre-ballot "Mario"s.
1 is probably Wolf.
The other will be someone who was planned but cut for time constraints. Maybe a newcomer. Like Isaac. Or Dixie. Or K. Rool. Or a Rhythm Heaven rep. Or maybe :linkmelee:, :ivysaur:, or:squirtle:

Either way I doubt we'll hear about them at E3, Nintendo want us to look at Roy and Ryu (and Lucas) for now. At best they'll give us a notification that Wolf is on the way (like Mewtwo's announcement), then give us game-play of him, and whoever else, in a later direct. They would release around October, by which point Sakurai would have moved onto the ballot characters.

The wait continues...
I agree!

Wow, 2 more Mario characters, that's a lot, but as long as one of them is Daisy then I'm ok with having another Mario character, we need all 3 of the Mario princesses.

I'm expecting Wolf to show up, its not a matter of if, but when.

I don't think we're getting any Rhythm Heaven content unless its a stage.

I think Roy opens the possibility of seeing Young Link return.

I think we're done with Pokémon, hopefully, I don't think I want anymore Pokémon its good the way it is, Sceptile would of been nice instead of Ivysaur, but I don't know... As for Squirtle well I think Greninja kind of replaced him.

Who knows maybe we will hear about 1 more character reveal at E3, I can't help, but hope so due to having some sort of element of surprise, its E3... Oh and Wolf is not a surprise, announce a character nobody is expecting to see revealed at E3.

Nobody's really expecting Isaac anytime soon.
 

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Could work!
How about Sol Blade's four unleashes?

@ Chapter Serf Chapter Serf There's no way that's it, someone was playing it on twitch!
Make those regular sword attacks in his move set, he'll probably have a few sword attacks, and what differs his sword is its the Sol Blade in which does have some unique moves for a sword.
 

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This is a war crime to video game music. Seriously, if Isaac as a DLC character with a Golden Sun stage and we don't get The First Book as a song on said stage, the Smash 4 development team are confirmed 100% music scrubs.
I could be wrong but even if it's a godsend music (just like every other Golden Sun song, don't get me wrong), it's not the more fitting one for a fighting game like Smash Bros, no?

Wow, 2 more Mario characters, that's a lot, but as long as one of them is Daisy then I'm ok with having another Mario character, we need all 3 of the Mario princesses.
The "Mario"s in the code are just placeholders, it doesn't mean we're going to have Mario characters. And frankly, I would be 100% mad to see even more of them. Rosalina + Bowser Jr was already too much, considering the blatant lack of diversity in the roster.
 

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Make those regular sword attacks in his move set, he'll probably have a few sword attacks, and what differs his sword is its the Sol Blade in which does have some unique moves for a sword.
Don't take what I said seriously, we were just having fun with the idea of more than one Final Smash. :laugh:
I actually would use Meggido as the Up B, makes the most sense to me...

I could be wrong but even if it's a godsend music (just like every other Golden Sun song, don't get me wrong), it's not the more fitting one for a fighting game like Smash Bros, no?
Yeah, specially when you consider all the great battle themes in all three games!
Imagine a remix of Jenna's theme... it could be SO GOOD! :love:
 

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Well, pretty straight to what we expected.

I wonder if we'll get something in the actual E3 presentation...
 

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Well, nothing new, aside from two past stages. Okay...

Cross fingers for the E3 presentation, I suppose.

:231:
 

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I'm so amazed about all the passion Sakurai has for these games, he really puts so much effort into pleasing the fans. All this content was just insane!

Shame that we didn't see Isaac, but hopefully he will be revealed later this E3 :100: Also, wish we could get some update on the Smash Ballot.
 

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*tada*

What a surprising Smash direct! xD

But since Roy and Ryu are already complete, there is a high chance that they will start development of ballot characters now! Let's hope that Isaac gets his chance now!
 

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We're well used to the waiting game at this point.

I'm not sure if we will see anything about the ballot during the E3 presentation. I love Isaac but it would seem rather backwards (from a business point of view) to reveal Ryu during the Smash presentation and Isaac during the E3 presentation.
 
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We're well used to the waiting game at this point.

I'm not sure if we would see anything about the ballot during the E3 presentation. I love Isaac but it would seem rather backwards (from a business point of view) to reveal Ryu during the Smash presentation and Isaac during the E3 presentation.
However, a "Look at what we're working on" (like with Mewtwo) would be really neat. They should have known that Roy and Ryu were leaked out to us quite some time ago.

Really pleased to know that new characters will in fact get fancy trailers like the newcomers from the base game.
 

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*tada*

What a surprising Smash direct! xD

But since Roy and Ryu are already complete, there is a high chance that they will start development of ballot characters now! Let's hope that Isaac gets his chance now!
Unless they release an update next month and data miners find data for Pichu and Nightmare (Soul Calibur) in it.
 
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