Isaac for DLC - One day. Some day. Golden Sunday.

[MagiusNecros]

Don't say that, because it's actually too realistic.

I hope not, though. I think Sakurai and the crew understand that Assist Trophies are not what we want.

Sakurai likes giving fans the opposite of what they want though.

 

[Falgor]

So Falgor... care to tell us what you know about this Golden Sun X Fire Emblem game they are working on!?

And didn't I tell you guys they would keep Roy's Neutral B to differentiate him from Marth and Lucina.

Basically, Sakurai does it. The concept is simple: 100% Fire Emblem, 0% Golden Sun.
That's what would happen.

That being said, I refuse to give up and all of you must do the same, our goal was the Ballot and it's far from being over.

 

[PlayfulMushroom]

Why didn't they just release this patch after E3? Now the whole presentation for tomorrow seems kind of spoiled...

I think it's cool that we get a newcomer at least, Ryu looks kind of cool. Still weird that Fire Emblem has the same amount of characters as Zelda now. Had high hopes for Smash on E3 this year, thinking we might get some cool newcomers (Isaac mainly).

Still excited towards the presentation tomorrow, I'm hoping they will reveal something shocking

 

[MagiusNecros]

Someone probably lost their job in Japan.

 

[Nintendokusou]

Someone probably lost their job in Japan.

Or at least they will have a lot of explaining and apologizing to do!

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Why didn't they just release this patch after E3? Now the whole presentation for tomorrow seems kind of spoiled...

I think it's cool that we get a newcomer at least, Ryu looks kind of cool. Still weird that Fire Emblem has the same amount of characters as Zelda now. Had high hopes for Smash on E3 this year, thinking we might get some cool newcomers (Isaac mainly).

Still excited towards the presentation tomorrow, I'm hoping they will reveal something shocking

To be honest I'm not sure why I get my hopes up for E3 in terms of Smash Bros. The characters that get revealed never really excite me. I'm probably among the most unhyped Smash fans around E3 time.

Only time it came close was when Villager was revealed, and even then at the time I was hoping for Tom Nook.

Probably the most hype thing that could happen for me at E3 now is that Ryu and Roy get released during E3. If only because it might mean they're making more dlc than we're expecting if they can afford to toss out 3 of them in quick succession.

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

Basically, Sakurai does it. The concept is simple: 100% Fire Emblem, 0% Golden Sun.
That's what would happen.

That being said, I refuse to give up and all of you must do the same, our goal was the Ballot and it's far from being over.

I agree, it seems like it... Why else did we have two FE characters debut in Melee, but no Isaac?

Golden Sun was released August 1 2001

Melee was released November 2001, there was plenty of time to add Golden Sun to Melee within those few months, yet we didn't even get a trophy, which wasn't fair because two other new Nintendo IPs Animal Crossing and Pikmin did and they were released the very same year.

Here's one Earthbound is similar to Golden Sun with its fanbase, it got two characters, Golden Sun still has none.

Keep in mind Olimar was added to Brawl as a playable character, Villager was intended to be a playable character, but scrapped... All Isaac got was being a Assist Trophy, why wasn't Isaac intended to be playable?

Lucas was supposed to be in Melee, but scrapped...

Something isn't right...

 

[LasermasterA]

Yea to be honest I am not really hyped up for too much Smash during this E3. The only character that I am excited for is Isaac but even then he is unlikely to be shown this early.

Hopefully the "surprising" reveal during the Smash direct is not Roy or Ryu, like Nintendo usually does, ignoring any past leaks. And hopefully Roy is slightly changed and does not become the 3rd Marth of Smash 4.

If we are lucky, we will see a small Isaac reveal. Since Roy and Ryu look finished, some ballot characters might be being worked on.

 

[Burruni]

I agree, it seems like it... Why else did we have two FE characters debut in Melee, but no Isaac?

Golden Sun was released August 1 2001

Melee was released November 2001, there was plenty of time to add Golden Sun to Melee within those few months, yet we didn't even get a trophy, which wasn't fair because two other new Nintendo IPs Animal Crossing and Pikmin did and they were released the very same year.

Here's one Earthbound is similar to Golden Sun with its fanbase, it got two characters, Golden Sun still has none.

Keep in mind Olimar was added to Brawl as a playable character, Villager was intended to be a playable character, but scrapped... All Isaac got was being a Assist Trophy, why wasn't Isaac intended to be playable?

Lucas was supposed to be in Melee, but scrapped...

Something isn't right...

First off, don't put Golden Sun in Melee as a chance.

had much more chance being Miyamoto's creation and being released that same year, but Melee was rushed, very much so, in a short development cycle.

Second, him being an AT in Brawl was decent, but there should have been other trophies for the series.

It's Smash 4 that's upsetting to have lost content while still being a demanded series... much like Advance Wars.

 

[EmeraldDragonair]

I can't see any more new characters revealed at E3, but we probably still have 2 more Pre-ballot "Mario"s.
1 is probably Wolf.
The other will be someone who was planned but cut for time constraints. Maybe a newcomer. Like Isaac. Or Dixie. Or K. Rool. Or a Rhythm Heaven rep. Or maybe , , or

Either way I doubt we'll hear about them at E3, Nintendo want us to look at Roy and Ryu (and Lucas) for now. At best they'll give us a notification that Wolf is on the way (like Mewtwo's announcement), then give us game-play of him, and whoever else, in a later direct. They would release around October, by which point Sakurai would have moved onto the ballot characters.

The wait continues...

 

[1/128]

Oh, well. I still think Isaac has a chance though, but the wait is just killing me... If you really push it, we at least we could get another character (hopefully Isaac) at E3, and let's not forget Sakurai teasing Duck Hunt's trailer and we getting Bowser Jr.'s. Ryu and Roy are fine, but still...

 

[Burruni]

Oh, well. I still think Isaac has a chance though, but the wait is just killing me... If you really push it, we at least we could get another character (hopefully Isaac) at E3, and let's not forget Sakurai teasing Duck Hunt's trailer and we getting Bowser Jr.'s. Ryu and Roy are fine, but still...

At most, I'd expect a trailer like Lucas got in April for Wolf.

The team is STILL smaller than it was in Smash 4 Disc time. Don't over-extend what to expect from them. This is already beyond the expectations of most.

 

[Nintendokusou]

Yea to be honest I am not really hyped up for too much Smash during this E3. The only character that I am excited for is Isaac but even then he is unlikely to be shown this early.

Hopefully the "surprising" reveal during the Smash direct is not Roy or Ryu, like Nintendo usually does, ignoring any past leaks. And hopefully Roy is slightly changed and does not become the 3rd Marth of Smash 4.

If we are lucky, we will see a small Isaac reveal. Since Roy and Ryu look finished, some ballot characters might be being worked on.

From the images I'm seeing, Roy seems to retain his moves from Melee, much like Mewtwo, which means at max he is a semi-clone of Marth because Marth was kind of different back then. He still has the explosive downward slice Neutral B, for example.
If we are talking about getting more newcomers, I think someone like Dixie or a Rhythm Heaven character that got cut during development are more likely than Isaac...

 

[Coaltergeist]

At least their pulling an Ike, making the Roy model based off of his older appearance in Awakening DLC.

 

[1/128]

At most, I'd expect a trailer like Lucas got in April for Wolf.

The team is STILL smaller than it was in Smash 4 Disc time. Don't over-extend what to expect from them. This is already beyond the expectations of most.

I now I can't expect much, but that's just about what I can do in the moment. We'll still get a ton of new games from E3 hopefully, Smash characters aren't the only thing in the world after all.

 

[Nintendokusou]

At least their pulling an Ike, making the Roy model based off of his older appearance in Awakening DLC.

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Roy's new voice is awesome! I love it! 0.0'
Ryu's is... meh... I guess!?
I wonder what Isaac would sound like, we never heard them speak outside o giberish in DD...

 

[Burruni]

Roy's new voice is awesome! I love it! 0.0'
Ryu's is... meh... I guess!?
I wonder what Isaac would sound like, we never heard them speak outside o giberish in DD...

Wait.
Where have you HEARD the fighters?

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Wait.
Where have you HEARD the fighters?

There are videos uploaded on youtube. Hang on I'll get a link....

Edit: here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK-DSAgs6fQ

 

[Burruni]

There are videos uploaded on youtube. Hang on I'll get a link....

Edit: here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK-DSAgs6fQ

JESUS HELL I'VE NEVER HEARD RYU SPEAK ENGLISH
THIS IS WEIRD

 

[Cutie Gwen]

There are videos uploaded on youtube. Hang on I'll get a link....

Edit: here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK-DSAgs6fQ

First of all, Shinku Hadouken and Shin Shoryuken? What's this? Second, THEY RUINED 'EEEEEEEYAH'

 

[Sabrewulf238]

JESUS HELL I'VE NEVER HEARD RYU SPEAK ENGLISH
THIS IS WEIRD

Really?

I didn't realize it was unusual for him to be speaking English.....

He always speaks in Japanese in the Street Fighter games?

 

[N3ON]

He speaks English in SF games, you can choose the language.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Really?

I didn't realize it was unusual for him to be speaking English.....

He always speaks in Japanese in the Street Fighter games?

Burruni might not have played SF4, Ryu speaks English there. At least Kirby's EEEEYAH sounds alright

 

[Nintendokusou]

Really?

I didn't realize it was unusual for him to be speaking English.....

He always speaks in Japanese in the Street Fighter games?

I don't think so, at least he seems to have the same voice in Street Fighter IV 3DS, from the trailer.

I compiled all the info in a post by the way, will update later if there's more.

 

[Burruni]

I am garbage at arcade fighters.

I've played some SF2 and Alpha 3.

He spoke japanese in those.

It made sense to me.

Now, we just need Guile's theme.

if that song isn't in this game, Ryu being added was so poorly handled.

 

[Schnee117]

I am garbage at arcade fighters.

I've played some SF2 and Alpha 3.

He spoke japanese in those.

It made sense to me.

Now, we just need Guile's theme.

if that song isn't in this game, Ryu being added was so poorly handled.

Guile's theme wasn't found by the leaker.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I am garbage at arcade fighters.

I've played some SF2 and Alpha 3.

He spoke japanese in those.

It made sense to me.

Now, we just need Guile's theme.

if that song isn't in this game, Ryu being added was so poorly handled.

BAD NEWS THEN! It's not in the 10 songs leaked.
DAMMIT BAE

 

[Burruni]

Guile's theme wasn't found by the leaker.

BAD NEWS THEN! It's not in the 10 songs leaked.
DAMMIT BAE

HOW
FRIGGIN
HOW
IT'S THE STREET FIGHTER SONG
HOW WAS NINTENDO AWARE ENOUGH TO MAKE I'M REALLY FEELING IT A JOKE
BUT NOT PUT IN /THE/ STREET FIGHTER SONG

 

[Cutie Gwen]

HOW
FRIGGIN
HOW
IT'S THE STREET FIGHTER SONG
HOW WAS NINTENDO AWARE ENOUGH TO MAKE I'M REALLY FEELING IT A JOKE
BUT NOT PUT IN /THE/ STREET FIGHTER SONG

It's like Lightning Battle, modern Kirby music (though apparently KTD final boss theme is in) and variety in DK. Nintendo's not flawless, no one can deny that

 

[Schnee117]

It's like Lightning Battle, modern Kirby music (though apparently KTD final boss theme is in) and variety in DK. Nintendo's not flawless, no one can deny that

*ahem*
Unfinished battle not being in is a crime.
Engage the Enemy being made shorter is a crime.

 

[Burruni]

It's like Lightning Battle, modern Kirby music (though apparently KTD final boss theme is in) and variety in DK. Nintendo's not flawless, no one can deny that

Guile's theme is the single most iconic musical track of Street Fighter, though.
It's like if Ryu couldn't haduken.

Or if Isaac didn't have Djinn in his moveset.

 

[Arteen]

I really don't expect to see any Smash news other than Roy (boring) and Ryu (why).

 

[Cutie Gwen]

*ahem*
Unfinished battle not being in is a crime.
Engage the Enemy being made shorter is a crime.

And the exclusion of

Spoiler

Zanza's boss theme

 

[Schnee117]

And the exclusion of

Spoiler

Zanza's boss theme

Spoiler

Both of them.

Could have done without the Medley and Gaur Plain (Night) really.

 

[Nintendokusou]

Guile's theme is the single most iconic musical track of Street Fighter, though.
It's like if Ryu couldn't haduken.

Or if Isaac didn't have Djinn in his moveset.

Gamnesia details confirm no Guile's Theme. Better luck next time! ~_~'

 

[Coaltergeist]

Any Roy fans here? I liked him in Melee; like many people, him and Marth turned me on to FE. Roy's game (FE6) is probably the hardest game in the series, which makes sense that it wasn't released in NA.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Roy's game (FE6) is probably the hardest game in the series.

I'm pretty sure that title belongs to Thracia 776, FE5

 

[Burruni]

Any Roy fans here? I liked him in Melee; like many people, him and Marth turned me on to FE. Roy's game (FE6) is probably the hardest game in the series, which makes sense that it wasn't released in NA.

FE2, will destroy you.

Also FE4/5 are pretty high up there.

FE6 is one of the harder ones, but certainly not the hardest.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

In my opinion, Gaiden was the WORST in the series. It's indecisive approach made the game feel like one big failed experiment. I see FE3 as the real FE2. Much like how A Link to the Past is seen as the actual sequel to Zelda.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

FE2, will destroy you.

Also FE4/5 are pretty high up there.

FE6 is one of the harder ones, but certainly not the hardest.

I want to play all FE games. Lack of trading and Witches are making me cry about Gaiden and I haven't touched it yet