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Isaac for DLC - One day. Some day. Golden Sunday.

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What sucks is we KNOW Isaac is being worked on. This is just annoying. Regardless, I didn't really care much anyway. Once we got Isaac I was done caring about it; the only thing I plan to do is request Lip after every one, but otherwise, I don't care.


Also, the "Smashified Live" is probably Geno.
 

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My consideration for Smashified were always low (first Klonoa, then Rayman, then Shovel Knight, then Banjo-Kazooie and then King K. Rool). Once we got King K. Rool, my hopes for Smashified grew, since I though they finally got their minds together and were going to start do actual NINTENDO characters, instead of third parties, but then, Travis happened (don't get me wrong, I love the Mother franchise and I'm very eager to play Mother 4), but why was Travis smashified when he's from a fan-made game? However, I saw that they leaked Isaac on their Travis video and my hopes for them were higher than never.

Then my hopes started to fall when they were getting hungry for follows like teens asking you to like on their facebook photos, but I knew they were still working on Isaac, which still kept my hopes kinda high. But now, they are saying they will show two characters painted together, that doesn't even fit Isaac, unless they hope Isaac comes alongside Matthew or Felix.

My other wild guest for those two characters are Isaac and Chibi-Robo as a tribute to Super Smash Flash 2.
 

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I'm willing to bet that the Mario character is Geno.

Eh, whatever. Considering it's basically a favour, I'll just wait. Though it's really looking like they're doing what they want, not what is being actually requested, which sucks. Hmph.

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Shouldn't we still remember that Smashified is still just a fan project made by very talented artist, who's still a human being instead of a promoting machine?

We shouldn't be trying to get annoyed by the characters they make, in case it interests them at the moment more than what fans are currently requesting - which would be considerations for another entries in other words.
 

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Shouldn't we still remember that Smashified is still just a fan project made by very talented artist, who's still a human being instead of a promoting machine?

We shouldn't be trying to get annoyed by the characters they make, in case it interests them at the moment more than what fans are currently requesting - which would be considerations for another entries in other words.
That's true.

But if they aren't going to produce works that I am interested in, I am going to stop showing interest in them. I don't hate them, I'm not going to disparage them or downvote their works or anything like that. They're doing what they feel is right, and for an artist, you can't ask much more than that.

I'm just not going to watch them in the future.
 

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The Smashified project was interesting, but they made bad choices and keep doing bad choices, imo.

All in all, I deeply despise Nintendo for triggering this 3rd party nonsense with the Ballot. If that's how they see the future of Smash, I'll just definitively quit. :glare:
 

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I think you guys are just exaggerating a lot. Nintendo isn't going to make EVERYTHING IN SMASH IS THIRD PARTY. They've done great with the third parties so far (not too many and all good choices). Also I watch Smashified just cuz its cool to see characters in Smash theme (except Travis cuz really? A fan game?)
 

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I think you guys are just exaggerating a lot. Nintendo isn't going to make EVERYTHING IN SMASH IS THIRD PARTY. They've done great with the third parties so far (not too many and all good choices). Also I watch Smashified just cuz its cool to see characters in Smash theme (except Travis cuz really? A fan game?)
There's a point here. Just because the entire damn world votes for ****ing Master Chief or something like that, doesn't mean he's going to get it. There are limitations on the Third Party. Mainly, Nintendo needs to get approval for it. They can't just stick in Cloud Strife because he won the ballot.

As for Smashified, I rank that on par with fan made trailers: someone with too much time on their hands trying to influence powers WAY beyond their control OR someone so bored and unable to stand not having whatever it is they want, they try and fill the void in their life by making something up.

Some fan made trailers and stuff are terrible. I saw an "Official" trailer for Star Wars VII last year. I immediately knew it was bull**** when I saw clips for the movie Serenity. I then started seeing and picking out clips from various Star Wars games.

Yeah. Way to go. You're not convincing most people with that crap. So don't try.

OK. I'll admit, that might be a harsh criticism and maybe more than a little unjustified and undeserving.

Nevertheless, I can't say I'd be all that excited if Isaac got "Smashified". Let me know when Sakurai or Miyamoto comes out and says "We now present the next DLC Character for Super Smash Brothers" and the minute and a half, two minute clip is of Our Boy, Isaac. THEN I'll get excited.
 

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I think you guys are just exaggerating a lot. Nintendo isn't going to make EVERYTHING IN SMASH IS THIRD PARTY. They've done great with the third parties so far (not too many and all good choices). Also I watch Smashified just cuz its cool to see characters in Smash theme (except Travis cuz really? A fan game?)
What I meant is because they said the Ballot is open to every video game character, people won't focus on Nintendo charaters anymore. Which is pretty stupid, because (I hope) we won't see tons of 3rd parties anyway. They should have stated "Nintendo characters only", because now tons of people will be disappointed, just like for Ridley: This is getting out of control.

And the "good choices" thing is 100% subjective.
 

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What I meant is because they said the Ballot is open to every video game character, people won't focus on Nintendo charaters anymore. Which is pretty stupid, because (I hope) we won't see tons of 3rd parties anyway. They should have stated "Nintendo characters only", because now tons of people will be disappointed, just like for Ridley: This is getting out of control.

And the "good choices" thing is 100% subjective.
Well a person with any sense would know that someone like Master Chief, Nathan Drake, Jak and Daxter, etc. aren't possible since they are the competitors exclusives. Most people are reasonable enough to know that mainly Nintendo characters will be added (I still think Bub and Bomberman would be cool). There is no getting through with Banjo and Kazooie fans that believe that they'll get in.
 

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Well a person with any sense would know that someone like Master Chief, Nathan Drake, Jak and Daxter, etc. aren't possible since they are the competitors exclusives. Most people are reasonable enough to know that mainly Nintendo characters will be added (I still think Bub and Bomberman would be cool). There is no getting through with Banjo and Kazooie fans that believe that they'll get in.
Yes, of course most 3rd parties aren't talked about since they really are not possible, as far as we know (?). The problem does mostly come from characters like Banjo or Shovel Knight, since important (in their companies) people having nothing to do with Nintendo talked about their enthusiasm, or just because their fanbases are really committed. Which is perfectly understandable since Nintendo said it was okay. Though we don't know to which extent it was true, and I believe it's in fact not very much.

My opinion is that it was not responsible for them to do it like this. Somehow it's just going to be unfair and unclear for most of us, and it possibly influenced a ton of votes for nothing. A better solution would have been to make a Ballot with one option for a Nintendo character and one option for a 3rd party character, if they wanted informations about them.

To explain why, I could take myself as an exemple: One of my favorite characters is Sonic. Before Brawl, 3rd parties were a dream but then, surprise, the hedgehog unexpectedly (for me at least) comes to Smash. Though if he was not yet in the game, I would have been torn between Sonic and Isaac, since Nintendo stated to vote only once, yet also stating that 3rd parties were okay. And since these two categories of characters are in a way different situation right now in the game, it makes everything way more complicated imo.

I'm conscious it's too late and anyway my "complaining" wouldn't have made any difference, but to me, the whole thing is not clear enough and influenced the discussions/fan polls/community in a pretty bad way, and could cause a lot of disappointment (Eh, maybe I'm a bit overprotective, I don't know). Of course, everyone is free to disagree with me about this.
 
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IMHO, I feel that sometimes, people take the 3rd party characters too serious and almost forgot that Smash is mainly dedicated to celebrate the history of Nintendo, rather than the history of videogames. After all, I've always heard about Smash as Nintendo all-stars and not Nintendo and friends.
 

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'Sup guys and gals. How's the thread chugging along?

Couldn't post lately as I just came back home after my semester so my activity has been less. Any positive news?

By the way, where is @NonSpecificGuy, haven't seen him around either.
 

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Maybe they're doing 3rd parties because they know they're never going to get in, and are settling for the next best thing? :p

'Sup guys and gals. How's the thread chugging along?

Couldn't post lately as I just came back home after my semester so my activity has been less. Any positive news?

By the way, where is @NonSpecificGuy, haven't seen him around either.
Thread has been okay-ish, but looks like Smashified Isaac won't come before July at this rate. We can wait.

NonSpecificGuy goes by @ NonSpecificGuy NonSpecificGuy now, by the way. :p

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Maybe they're doing 3rd parties because they know they're never going to get in, and are settling for the next best thing? :p


Thread has been okay-ish, but looks like Smashified Isaac won't come before July at this rate. We can wait.

NonSpecificGuy goes by @ NonSpecificGuy NonSpecificGuy now, by the way. :p

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Oh so he's still around :p

Haven't seen him on this thread though for a long time. Smashified Isaac doesn't matter as long as we get him in Smash DLC!
 
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IMHO, I feel that sometimes, people take the 3rd party characters too serious and almost forgot that Smash is mainly dedicated to celebrate the history of Nintendo, rather than the history of videogames. After all, I've always heard about Smash as Nintendo all-stars and not Nintendo and friends.
I kinda feel this way about Smash Bros., especially during the debates about popularity vs. relevancy before the Smash Ballot, because those third party characters are "guests" and that the Nintendo characters should take front-and-center.
 
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Eyyyyyyyyyyy

I finally picked up a copy of Dark Dawn and it's been years since I beat TLA.

Any warnings/tips you guys wanna give me?
First Warning: There are a few Points of No Return (three actually), and the first occurs pretty early on, so make sure you explore everything before you leave Lonpa Ruins. This stinks as you'll miss a few Djinni if you aren't careful.
Second Warning: There are a few plot holes to deal with, but if you're a Golden Sun fan, you already would know about that.

That being said, unlike the first two games, you start playing for real pretty early, and you deal with the beginning intro and exposition setting while you explore the Tanglewood, as opposed to waiting for the discussions to end before you actually start.

Speaking of which... I really need to go back to my copy of Dark Dawn and see for myself the game again, because I thought the mechanics were fun in the 3D enviroment. I briefly mentioned playing Xenoblade (finally) a while back for a few hours, and I just didn't like the experience at all, so I can confirm once and for all that I'm a turn-based JRPG kind of guy.
 

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First Warning: There are a few Points of No Return (three actually), and the first occurs pretty early on, so make sure you explore everything before you leave Lonpa Ruins. This stinks as you'll miss a few Djinni if you aren't careful.
Second Warning: There are a few plot holes to deal with, but if you're a Golden Sun fan, you already would know about that.

That being said, unlike the first two games, you start playing for real pretty early, and you deal with the beginning intro and exposition setting while you explore the Tanglewood, as opposed to waiting for the discussions to end before you actually start.

Speaking of which... I really need to go back to my copy of Dark Dawn and see for myself the game again, because I thought the mechanics were fun in the 3D enviroment. I briefly mentioned playing Xenoblade (finally) a while back for a few hours, and I just didn't like the experience at all, so I can confirm once and for all that I'm a turn-based JRPG kind of guy.
So make sure I somewhat frequently check a Djinn Location guide like I happened to do in TLA, got it. xD
 

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A little disappointed because of how well their own renders fit the Smash look already.... whatever. Guess we're waiting for late June to see Isaac done..... and even longer for Bandana Dee.
 

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'Sup guys and gals. How's the thread chugging along?

Couldn't post lately as I just came back home after my semester so my activity has been less. Any positive news?

By the way, where is @NonSpecificGuy, haven't seen him around either.
Oh so he's still around :p

Haven't seen him on this thread though for a long time. Smashified Isaac doesn't matter as long as we get him in Smash DLC!
Well, I was on the last page, but you missed me. :p
 

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Just had to school someone on the Krystal thread why Isaac DOESNT JUST USE A SWORD.
links please.

The Inklings look pretty good, however, I though they weren't going to make characters with already high quality renders, but since they're from Nintendo, I think that can be ignored.

Hopefully next is Isaac.
 

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links please.

The Inklings look pretty good, however, I though they weren't going to make characters with already high quality renders, but since they're from Nintendo, I think that can be ignored.

Hopefully next is Isaac.
They namedropped that for Yookah Laylee specifically, but they did clearly state that Yookah Laylee were unlikely to be Smashified because they had high quality renders. Then they contradict that with Inklings... I don't really get it. Honestly, the Smashified doesn't look any better for Smash than the Inklings Splatoon artwork.


Just had to school someone on the Krystal thread why Isaac DOESNT JUST USE A SWORD.
I had to explain that as well to people on Youtube.
 

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Inklings were Smashified. Like they needed one. :p

At least it looks good.

The waiting game continues.

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Well, I was on the last page, but you missed me. :p
Oh cool. I thought you were not feeling liking it anymore :p

Just kidding. Nice to see ya back! With a name change!

Inklings were Smashified. Like they needed one. :p

At least it looks good.

The waiting game continues.

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Wait what? Not that they needed it. Love Splatting around in Splatoon, but still....

Oh well, guess I will enjoy it and wait for Isaac. They are working on it so he's coming that's for sure.
 
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They namedropped that for Yookah Laylee specifically, but they did clearly state that Yookah Laylee were unlikely to be Smashified because they had high quality renders. Then they contradict that with Inklings... I don't really get it. Honestly, the Smashified doesn't look any better for Smash than the Inklings Splatoon artwork.
weight. Sakpie alsu contradicks himslef. Artsee is Sakurai confirmde!1!!
 

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Doesn't it annoy you guys how so many people want nobody names like Shantae, Shovel Knight, and Quote. Like, how are they even near the legacy, popularity, and impact that Sonic, MegaMan, Pac-Man, and even Snake had? Smash is supposed to be a Nintendo all-stars game, and if someone like stupid ass Shantae gets in before Isaac, I might just flip.
 

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Doesn't it annoy you guys how so many people want nobody names like Shantae, Shovel Knight, and Quote. Like, how are they even near the legacy, popularity, and impact that Sonic, MegaMan, Pac-Man, and even Snake had? Smash is supposed to be a Nintendo all-stars game, and if someone like stupid *** Shantae gets in before Isaac, I might just flip.
Rude much? Shantae is a cult classic, Shovel Knight brought back 8bit expertise and Quote was one of the first indie games out there. When saying 'nobody names' don't bring up the three most iconic indie characters
 

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Doesn't it annoy you guys how so many people want nobody names like Shantae, Shovel Knight, and Quote. Like, how are they even near the legacy, popularity, and impact that Sonic, MegaMan, Pac-Man, and even Snake had? Smash is supposed to be a Nintendo all-stars game, and if someone like stupid *** Shantae gets in before Isaac, I might just flip.
Quote is arguably the single Indie game that made it jump out as a true quality source for small-group or single-person developers instead of just being the kind of things you'd find on Newgrounds. Don't undermine the impact that he had. It had two re-releases onto Nintendo's hardware consoles each time making leaps for improving the quality and still stands as one of the best indie titles for all time.

Shovel Knight and Shantae are noticable because of their sweeping kickstarter success, particularly Shantae for being an actual series that started out on Nintendo and honestly was one of the few things that made the DSi ware titles really something and Shovel Knight for being one of the most noticable indie titles to hit the WiiU when most third party companies have been avoiding the system like that awkward kid hanging out at the punch-bowl.

A fair amount of those are bursts of popularity, but there's no need to flame other people's likes in characters.

I'd much prefer noticable indie choices (mostly Shantae because Wayforward's always made her a Nintendo priority and would do practically all the work to get her in if Sakurai allowed it) over some really questionable first party choices. Meowth, Streetpass NPCs, even Ray.
 
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Rude much? Shantae is a cult classic, Shovel Knight brought back 8bit expertise and Quote was one of the first indie games out there. When saying 'nobody names' don't bring up the three most iconic indie characters
Sonic, MegaMan, and Pac-Man have LEGACY though. People outside the gaming culture KNOW of these characters. Hell, most gamers don't even know who Shantae or Quote are. So tell me, do characters like them with such a pitiful legacy deserve the same recognition as SONIC, MEGAMAN, and PACMAN?
 

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Sonic, MegaMan, and Pac-Man have LEGACY though. People outside the gaming culture KNOW of these characters. Hell, most gamers don't even know who Shantae or Quote are. So tell me, do characters like them with such a pitiful legacy deserve the same recognition as SONIC, MEGAMAN, and PACMAN?
I'd say Shantae would as all her games are on Nintendo, again, you're just being rude. Hell, Mega Man's franchise sells less than Rayman iirc, so that means he's got a better legacy by your logic
 

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"Deserve" has become such a dirty word to Smash fans...
It's not like Pac-Man or Sonic are unanimously agreed to be good fits either, anyway.
While I don't know about Quote, Shantae's history is almost exclusively tied to Nintendo and people love those games, so...it's not really some sort of sin if she gets into Smash.
As for Shovel Knight, I think you're kinda downplaying how popular that game is now.
 

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Sonic, MegaMan, and Pac-Man have LEGACY though. People outside the gaming culture KNOW of these characters. Hell, most gamers don't even know who Shantae or Quote are. So tell me, do characters like them with such a pitiful legacy deserve the same recognition as SONIC, MEGAMAN, and PACMAN?
Legacy isn't everything. I mean look at Greninja. What legacy has he left on Nintendo's history besides being a fairly popular starter Pokemon. Nothing. In my opinion, he didn't even deserve to be in (Meowth deserves it more). Just because Quote, Shantae, and Shovel Knight aren't AAA series made by huge companies doesn't mean they aren't worth mentioning for 3rd party reps.
 

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Hell, I'd love those indie characters but they don't really have a chance and I know it, not like bias is a factor
Legacy isn't everything. I mean look at Greninja. What legacy has he left on Nintendo's history besides being a fairly popular starter Pokemon. Nothing. In my opinion, he didn't even deserve to be in (Meowth deserves it more). Just because Quote, Shantae, and Shovel Knight aren't AAA series made by huge companies doesn't mean they aren't worth mentioning for 3rd party reps.
Remember how Greninja was chosen before XY was released? Greninja got revealed on the release date iirc
 
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