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Interesting 'Facts' 3.0 AKA: Zook's Misinformation Scheme

Eor

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kentucky really means nice pants. A man asked what the place was called and the aboriginal replied with Kentucky.
Absolutely false.

Why do you keep making these things, Zook :mad:

More people like Tom than Eor.

also, Eor can't ban me for that anymore. =)
I shall prove you wrong (in the later)
 

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4,467 asteroids have nearly hit Earth since 2000.
 

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The Leatherback Sea Turtle is the only known warm blooded reptile.
Eh, well sort of. There are varying degrees of endothermy and ectothermy, or "warm-bloodedness" and "cold-bloodedness". Most animals are neither wholly "warm-blooded" or "cold-blooded" but some mixture of the two.

Dinosaurs, for example, which were reptiles, were very endothermic ("warm-blooded"). Crocodiles, also reptiles, also rely largely on endothermy (at least more than most reptiles).

Mammals are generally considered "warm-blooded", but not all are completely endothermic. The camel, for example, is adapted to withstand higher body temperature during the day. In other words, it lets the hot sun increase its body temp during the day, much like a "cold-blooded" animal.

Fish are generally considered "cold-blooded", but the tuna for example is a very effective thermoregulator; the placement of its arteries and veins combined with its movement make it very effective at maintaining a high body temperature despite a cold environment.
 

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Eh, well sort of. There are varying degrees of endothermy and ectothermy, or "warm-bloodedness" and "cold-bloodedness". Most animals are neither wholly "warm-blooded" or "cold-blooded" but some mixture of the two.
Dinosaurs, for example, which were reptiles, were very endothermic ("warm-blooded").
Pardon me, but I would like to know the reasoning behind this wide generalization of a species weve been speculating about up until now. Last I checked the debate was still going on and if dinosaurs were indeed very endothermic reptiles like you suggest, what caused them to become extinct after inhabiting the Earth for millions of years? No conclusive evidence exists that tells us dinosaurs were either strongly endothermic or strongly ectothermic. Its widely believed that dinosaurs fall somewhere in-between given the many unknown variables that complicate matters and fuel the discussion.

Crocodiles, also reptiles, also rely largely on endothermy (at least more than most reptiles).
You mean crocodiles regulate their body temperatures like other cold-blooded animals by relocating or waiting for heat to enable meaningful activity again? Crocodiles are better able to maintain their body temperature due to their size, but the fact remains they still need to absorb heat in order to go hunting. For the most part a crocodile is going to be considered "cold-blooded" because it still cannot regulate its body temperature through internal means and it tends to endure long periods of time without sustenance by being inactive for the majority of the time its out there. Most, if not all, warm-blooded creatures consume food at a higher rate and have a metabolism that is indicative of an active lifestyle. When a crocodile can stick around for a very long time with hardly any food, it tells me that its endothermic traits are very limited.

Mammals are generally considered "warm-blooded", but not all are completely endothermic. The camel, for example, is adapted to withstand higher body temperature during the day. In other words, it lets the hot sun increase its body temp during the day, much like a "cold-blooded" animal.
This much is true, but you're not telling the whole story. The camel absorbs heat for entirely different reasons than reptiles do. The camel does not really need the excess body heat that comes from standing under a hot sun. If the camel's body temperature threshold is breached, it will begin to sweat to keep its temperature within acceptable range. Similar to what humans do on a hot day. We don't need the extra heat to function, but reptiles do. Reptiles will absorb heat and enable reactions, in which case they will become active. Leatherback sea turtles are a special breed in that they can maintain a body temperature that is significantly warmer than their surroundings despite swimming in freezing cold water. This tells us they can regulate their body temperatures through internal means. Their size, skin, and fat are all factors in their ability to maintain consistent body temperatures and withstand waters which may be too cold for ectothermic turtles to thrive in.

Fish are generally considered "cold-blooded", but the tuna for example is a very effective thermoregulator; the placement of its arteries and veins combined with its movement make it very effective at maintaining a high body temperature despite a cold environment.
Leatherback sea turtles do not require constant activity to maintain warm body temperatures, but its a moot point since were comparing apples and oranges here. You gave me an example of an animal that is an exception to the classification its species normally falls under, but no such definitive exception aside from the leatherback sea turtle exists to justify warm-blooded status for a reptile. They are the only known creatures who could be considered warm-blooded reptiles. Endothermy is not just a small part of what they are, but a large one. On the endothermic/ectothermic spectrum, they fall far to the warm-blooded side. Other reptiles can lay claim to smaller instances of endothermy, but never enough to justify a "warm-blooded" label.
 

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dinosaurs
I should clarify: dinosaurs were not exclusively endothermic in the way that some mammals are, but most dinos were almost certainly endothermic. Fossils suggest several things about many/most (though not all) dinosaurs: bones suggest high capillary density (like in mammals) and the presence of heat exchangers (like in mammals and birds). The large size of many dinos relative to modern day animals also supports endothermy (due to surface area:volume ratio). Unlike birds and mammals, however, dinosaurs did not appear to have nasal maxilloturbinals to reclaim water from exhaled air (a trait present in higher endotherms, eg mammals and birds), though these were present in later dinosaurs.

Dinosaurs also had 4-chambered hearts (first discovered fossilized heart found in 1993, see link). 4-chambered hearts are found in mammals and birds and are most definitely characteristic of endotherms; among modern day reptiles, only the crocodile has a 4-chambered heart. The separation of oxygenated and deoxygenated blood allows for much higher metabolic rates, characteristic of endotherms.

Endotherms also have a much higher blood pressure in general than ectotherms. Considering the large size and volume of dinosaurs, they would have needed powerful hearts capable of producing such pressures (especially in dinosaurs that were very tall, eg brachiosaurs, ultrasaurs, apatosaurs, etc). The growth rates of dinosaurs were also similar to mammals and birds and required a high metabolic rate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/720871.stm
http://www-tech.mit.edu/V120/N21/Dinosaur_21.21w.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/plain/A590294
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/288/5465/503
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v412/n6845/full/412405a0.html
Sherwood, Klandorf, Yancey. Animal Physiology. Belmont: Thomson, 2005.



crocodiles
Not sure why you’re trying to refute this one so much. Crocs are ectothermic, definitely, but they have a 4-chambered heart, very much a trait of endotherms. The extinct ancestors of crocs were also most likely endothermic.

Additionally, the isochores in the genes of endotherms (homeotherms) are generally very rich in GC-base pairs; very similar homeothermic isochores were found in crocodiles and turtles, as well as some species of alligator.

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/16/11/1521.pdf
http://www.springerlink.com/content/d31m7qn07176562m/
http://dml.cmnh.org/2005Apr/msg00204.html

This is incorrect. Camels don’t sweat as much as other mammals. There’s a big difference in the thermoregulatory physiology of camels vs other mammals.

Let’s take humans, for example. In humans, the normal core body temperature is 98.2 F. If the temperature falls below that, the body will warm it up back to 98.2 F. If the temperature goes above that, the body will sweat and increase vasodilation to cool back down to 98.2 F. In fact, in humans and most mammals, just going a degree or 2 above this temperature can cause serious illness (ever had a bad fever and been stuck in bed?).

Not so in camels. Camels use their fur, sweating, and inactivity (note that inactivity is an ectothermic trait) to stay cool. Even then, on a normal day, a camel’s core body temperature will rise at least 2 degrees and it will not become ill. On a dehydrated day, a camel’s core body temperature can rise 6 degrees or more and it will still not become ill like a human; such large temperature ranges would kill humans and most other mammals. The camel has adapted to withstand these higher temperatures.
It is most definitely an ectothermic trait.

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761553331_2/camel.html
http://www.jstor.org/pss/35544
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel
Sherwood, Klandorf, Yancey. Animal Physiology. Belmont: Thomson, 2005.

turtles and other things
I think you’re confusing a lot of “endothermic” and “ectothermic” traits. A lot of things that endothermic mammals do, including us, are ‘ectothermic’. Examples include moving to warmer/colder areas (ie, going in the sun vs staying in the shade), vasoconstriction/vasodilation, and movement.

Endothermic attributes include the production of metabolic heat through aerobic locomotory muscles (whereas many ectotherms are capable of short bursts of anaerobic heat production), anatomic insulation, larger body size, countercurrent rete exchangers, maxilloturbinals, increased internal heat production through several mechanisms: decoupling movement from ATP production as seen in brown adipose tissue (BAT), shivering, muscular activity, and perspiration.

Even the leatherback, which you mentioned, is not “completely endothermic”. It relies on many of those (including ectothermic mechanisms) to maintain its higher body temperature. Other turtles do this as well.

http://www.bio.davidson.edu/people/...s/2005/Fitzpatrick/An Endothermic Reptile.htm


Anyway, the reason I mentioned other animals (‘oranges’ when we were discussing ‘apples’) was to show that most animals are a combination of the two; they are heterothermic to some degree.



You seem to have quite an interest in biology, what level of study are you at? I enjoy discussing medicine and biology, and I pride myself on knowing a lot about it (or at the least, knowing where to look for answers).
 

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It is impossible to lick your elbow.

A duck's quack doesn't echo anywhere, and no one knows why.

The cigarette lighter was invented before the match

- Most lipstick contains fish scales.

It is physically impossible for pigs to look up into the sky.

The "sixth sick sheik's sixth sheep's sick" is said to be the toughest tongue twister in the English language.
 

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there have been 10 incarnations of the Doctor in the long running British television show "Doctor Who". one of these incarnations was only shown in a movie.
 

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The hardest bone in the human body is the jawbone.

A pig's orgasm lasts for 30 minutes.

Bruce Lee was so fast that they actually had to slow a film down so you could see his moves. That's the opposite of the norm.

Michael Jordan makes more money from Nike annually than the entire Nike factory workers in Malaysia combined.
 

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The hardest bone in the human body is the jawbone.

A pig's orgasm lasts for 30 minutes.

Bruce Lee was so fast that they actually had to slow a film down so you could see his moves. That's the opposite of the norm.

Michael Jordan makes more money from Nike annually than the entire Nike factory workers in Malaysia combined.
1. ok, I guess that makes sense? Although I figured the skull.
2. omg that would be amazing, albeit slightly inconvienent and make quickies undoable.
3. Bruce Lee is a beast.
4.that is sad, maybe Michael Jordan should pay them himself...
 

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Hitler was a vegetarian.
Charlie Chapman came third in a Charlie Chapman look-alike contest.
 

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The word/slang in English, "AGGIN" means "Ummm. or 'that'" in Chinese. (The word is spelled from Right to left due to language.)
 

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The ****** language has over 30 demonstrative pronouns.
The Inuit language has no words for snow. It's like the atom to them, but they haven't conceptualized atomic theory.

Although Baseball is considered the American pastime, more Americans get divorced than play baseball. Divorce is the true American pastime.

Citizen Kane was filmed in front of a live studio audience.

Although the ancient Greeks engaged homosexuality, anal sex was still considered taboo. They did it between the legs.

The materials used to make computer circuitry are much faster and more efficient than brain circuitry. If a computer circuit was made to match a human brain it would be thirteen times faster.

Shigeru Miyamoto was voted TIME Magazine man of the year on their internet poll.

Jules Verne conceptualized, built, and destroyed the first submarine. H.G. Wells tried to surpass this feat by inventing the time machine, but gave up when, after setting out in earnest to begin the task, he did not appear before himself, from the future, with the time machine already made.

Mario is loosely based of the Russian folk hero Joseph Stalin.

Hitler came first place in a Charlie Chaplain look-alike contest.

The Beatles were actually Australian, but claimed to be English so people would take them seriously. The opposite is true for Russel Crowe.

In proportion to population, elephants have more varied personalities than humans.

William Shakespeare never wrote anything down, and the writings of his plays were recorded more than a generation later. Hard evidence suggests that Shakespeare was a real man, but that he only co-wrote one play.

The hardest bone in the human body is the biceps.

Some ancient hieroglyphs depict Egyptian gods playing Pokemon cards. Osiris had a wicked fire/electric deck.

The pencil sharpener was invented ten minutes after the pencil. The can opener was invented 30 years after canned food.

The first recorded war was between Sumer and Elam, which are now part of Iraq and Iran, respectively.

Thomas Edison was the first recording artist.

Fox only, no items, final destination is the fairest possible competition of skill between humans.

The colour Orange is named after the fruit, not the other way around.

The average spider swallows seven humans in its sleep over the course of its life.

The Chinese government only allows the telling of one story, the legend of the Monkey King.

Both the stapler and superglue were invented for medical uses and later adapted to household uses.

"I think, therefore I am," is not even a sound philosophical statement, because it assumes the existence of the thinker. You might as well say, "The rose is red, therefore it exists."

The first animal in space was a fruit fly, not a dog or monkey.
 

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"I think, therefore I am," is not even a sound philosophical statement, because it assumes the existence of the thinker. You might as well say, "The rose is red, therefore it exists."
But since the 'thinker' is the person to whom 'I' is referring, if this sentence is spoken then the person who is speaking it becomes the subject of 'I', hence they become the 'thinker', and the assumption of the existence of the thinker becomes safe. Therefore, the existence of "I think, therefore I am.", justifies itself.

I think..:ohwell:
 

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The Inuit language has no words for snow. It's like the atom to them, but they haven't conceptualized atomic theory.

Although Baseball is considered the American pastime, more Americans get divorced than play baseball. Divorce is the true American pastime.

Citizen Kane was filmed in front of a live studio audience.

Although the ancient Greeks engaged homosexuality, anal sex was still considered taboo. They did it between the legs.

The materials used to make computer circuitry are much faster and more efficient than brain circuitry. If a computer circuit was made to match a human brain it would be thirteen times faster.

Shigeru Miyamoto was voted TIME Magazine man of the year on their internet poll.

Jules Verne conceptualized, built, and destroyed the first submarine. H.G. Wells tried to surpass this feat by inventing the time machine, but gave up when, after setting out in earnest to begin the task, he did not appear before himself, from the future, with the time machine already made.

Mario is loosely based of the Russian folk hero Joseph Stalin.

Hitler came first place in a Charlie Chaplain look-alike contest.

The Beatles were actually Australian, but claimed to be English so people would take them seriously. The opposite is true for Russel Crowe.

In proportion to population, elephants have more varied personalities than humans.

William Shakespeare never wrote anything down, and the writings of his plays were recorded more than a generation later. Hard evidence suggests that Shakespeare was a real man, but that he only co-wrote one play.

The hardest bone in the human body is the biceps.

Some ancient hieroglyphs depict Egyptian gods playing Pokemon cards. Osiris had a wicked fire/electric deck.

The pencil sharpener was invented ten minutes after the pencil. The can opener was invented 30 years after canned food.

The first recorded war was between Sumer and Elam, which are now part of Iraq and Iran, respectively.

Thomas Edison was the first recording artist.

Fox only, no items, final destination is the fairest possible competition of skill between humans.

The colour Orange is named after the fruit, not the other way around.

The average spider swallows seven humans in its sleep over the course of its life.

The Chinese government only allows the telling of one story, the legend of the Monkey King.

Both the stapler and superglue were invented for medical uses and later adapted to household uses.

"I think, therefore I am," is not even a sound philosophical statement, because it assumes the existence of the thinker. You might as well say, "The rose is red, therefore it exists."

The first animal in space was a fruit fly, not a dog or monkey.
The point of this is to guess which ones are true I assume? Cause clearly some of these are jokes but some of them are quite convincing and possibly true.
 

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Interesting fact: When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's amore.
That's the most awesome sentence ever in a song.

I'm going to change my location back to that again.
 

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Interesting Fact: A tiger can't change it's stripes because it is a component of their skin.
 
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