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goodoldganon

goodoldganon

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I didn't view the video but it is either:

A) A hoax
B) A costume swap hack

I'm 99% sure we can't create characters, and if we can they certainly would take up too much space and probably not even be possible to complete.

TL:DR
No
 
DemonFart

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if so,gengar is so a newcomer lol.
it might be possible though....very small chance but a chance nonetheless...

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Revven

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There's no way to do it because that would be NEW memory for the game to store and hacking CANNOT do that. Hacking can only edit what's there, you can't add anything to the game, only edit the memory (you can't make new addresses for the new character, that's what I mean by adding).
 
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Almas

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It is unlikely that this will ever be possible.

If it is possible, it is likely that this will be through ISO modification, which is borderline illegal (and any form of distribution of said ISOs is illegal).

It may be possible to load character information on an SD card in the extreme future (we're talking YEARS, if ever. And I wouldn't think it would happen even then.), but creating a character would hardly be a glamorous job.

In short: no.
 
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regardless of it's possibilities the video gives no proof, and knowing a thing or two about programming, he's not there, you would have to make him from the ground up, that's a **** ton of imposssible work. Anything is possible with enough work, like making your own game for example, but it's completely outside our relm of possibility.

so to answer your question.

no.
 
superyoshi888

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I'm sure it is obviouse to everyone that this is fake, but I think it would be possible to make a character. However, it would be very time consuming as it would require editing an existing character by changing the model, hit boxes, every single last detail. You would be better off making your own game at that point.
 
Revven

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superyoshi888 said:
I'm sure it is obviouse to everyone that this is fake, but I think it would be possible to make a character. However, it would be very time consuming as it would require editing an existing character by changing the model, hit boxes, every single last detail. You would be better off making your own game at that point.
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Of course you could make the character on the computer but, you would not, under any circumstance, be able to add that character to the game. There's only space for what's there in the game, you couldn't POSSIBLY add new code to the game to accommodate for a new character, new hitboxes, new animations and etc. It's not possible, stop getting people's hopes up. Hacking is only RAM editing, not adding new ****. (Notice how textures are only possible because they overwrite already there colors, they're not completely new costumes).
 
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Falco400 said:
Of course you could make the character on the computer but, you would not, under any circumstance, be able to add that character to the game. There's only space for what's there in the game, you couldn't POSSIBLY add new code to the game to accommodate for a new character, new hitboxes, new animations and etc. It's not possible, stop getting people's hopes up. Hacking is only RAM editing, not adding new ****. (Notice how textures are only possible because they overwrite already there colors, they're not completely new costumes).
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At the speed that ISO hacking is progressing its quite possible for someone to figure out how to make room for new stages/characters by removing other things like the movies and single player modes.

Of course doing this would take a dedicated team, working 12 hours a day, many years to under go a project of that magnitude. And if those people really wanted to it would be much easier to just code an entirely new game while just stealing textures and models from brawl.

So it is theortically possible, but not at all practical, which is why it won't happen.
 
DemonFart

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ssbbFICTION said:
Thats some nice editing 0_o
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This.
that video(fake or not) looked very nice.
man,that guy mustve had a lotta time on his hands lol.
The only hack I want on my wii for now is the shiny zard texture hack.
if only there was a squirtle squad shades texture hack...

*sigh*

:007:
 
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Pharrox

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I'm really no expert in this area, but it is my opinion that it would be possible. The file replacement code (to my knowledge) uses names returned from the fst.bin to know what files to load. We can have up to 50 character slots. Each of these slots has an index in RAM. If we could generate names with the index of a character slot + whatever identifier would be needed (00, 01, Motion, Entry, etc) Then we could have one character for all 50 slots.

Naturally this would be a pain to manage manually because all files would just be named as numbers. However, a character manager program could at least somewhat make it tolerable. I could be way off with this, but from what I've seen it could be done. I can't say whether or not someone will ever actually take the time do this or any of the other possible solutions, as it would be quite a big project, but I maintain that it at least possible in theory.

I may be way off with this, so if any of you experienced RAM hackers see some major flaw or think I'm just crazy, well then let me know. But yeah, that's where I stand based on what I know.


EDIT: Wow, I worded that horribly.
 
Viquey

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Whoa necro.

Nonetheless, it's hilarious seeing the opinions from so long ago. Almas saying it'd take YEARS if it EVER became possible, then a few months later we have PSA and model hacking and more to come. XD
 
Shadic

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MK26 said:
Omg ROFL at this necro

"Geno will never be possible"

Last I checked, PW doesnt know the meaning of impossible
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Funny how that works. Also MK/Maestro/whatever - Play my Geno, I want some good feedback. :laugh:
 
Kei_Takaro

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Speaking of models, is the guy (forgot the name) still working on the model swapping project? The one where he creates a model along with the same skeleton?
 
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