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Wow, just looked - very in-depth and, as you said, really shows off how capable they really are! I like it! The more I think about it, the more I want them. Looking forward to the next few weeks!
Glad to hear you liked it!
You make a very valid point. Heck, Woolly World has had a stage since launch, and it's still not out in the U.S.! (By the way, it's stupid that Europe got it in, like, July, and we have to wait. >.<)
I don't see it happening, but who knows?As I stated above, I would prefer Octolings to be Inkling clones, but that's even more unlikely sadly. Also, Inklings have too much potential for great alts, so I am not sure if relegating one alt for the Octoling is a great idea. That said, I am not against Octoling as an alt, it is just not the ideal scenario for me.
It's definitely possible, depending on their moveset. If the Inkling attacked by slapping with their tentacles, for example, it might not work too well, since they have rather different tentacle shapes.
It actually wouldn't be that strange, especially if the NX is something like "Nintendo's iOS" like it has been speculated. Other companies are following the MOBA format (one game with constant updates instead of various games every x years), so I can see Nintendo jumping in the bandwagon. Also, there wouldn't be that much of a graphical update in a NX Smash anyways (especially if it is a console and handlheld, like it has been speculated) and new and shiny graphics is what sells games for many people, so yeah. I am aware whatever I post here won't convince anyone in this particular thread that Smash 5 might not be released for the NX, but I wanted to share my thoughts anyways.
If Smash 5 isn't a new game (which I doubt, as there's still plenty that can be done with both the gameplay and aesthetics), but rather just an updated Smash 4, then the same principle applies in this context really. They might hold the Inklings off to kick off the "expansions" or whatever. But I doubt that, as A) I doubt the concept to begin with, and B) it's in their best interest to keep Splatoon's inkredible momentum going.
Smash 4 is the 3DS version and Smash 5 is the Wii U version according to Sakurai -_-
It's weird he thinks this, Smash 3DS and Wii U are way too similar to be considered entirely different entities; if anything Smash Wii U is Smash 4 and Smash 3DS is Smash 4-lite
And the Captain Cuttlefish clone they can have.
My brother suggested Callie and Marie alts. It could happen. What if Inklings became like Little Mac, with 16+ different skins? 8 Inklings, a smattering of Octoling Colors, Callie, and Marie.
I feel like they would make perfect cameo characters on the Inkopolis stage. They could appear at night on a stage (similar to KK Slider) and sing their theme song.
That's what I was thinking too. It was mentioned in Game Explain, along with the usual KK Slider style of special events at certain times they could also coincide with actual Splatfests.
CatRaccoonBL
I kind of think that's what it boils down to. What people like as their special weapon. I will say I'm the opposite. I love the Kraken and my favorite special weapon is the Inkstrike. I'm awful with the Inkzooka so I don't really want to see it as their final smash lol.
Sure sure. I understand that mentality. But at the same time, I personally prefer movesets that I can see happen. And as fun as wanting Kraken and Inkstrike probably is, I just find it more beneficial to think of the more likely scenario of the Inkzooka being the final smash.
In my moveset, I inkorporated them as "overcharged smash attacks." That is, if you're standing in ink, you can charge your smashes past the normal amount for a super-powerful attack. Overcharging the side smash, for instance (which is normally the charger), will turn it into an Inkzooka, which creates a giant tornado of ink that deals inkpressive damage as well. They'll definitely turn the tides of battle if the Inkling manages to land the hit; I'd recommend reading the set if you're inkterested.
Here's my moveset
The KO Punch is like that yes, but it also doesn't have the range and visual effect as the Inkzooka. The inkzooka is a powerful bazooka that kill foes in a single hit. It is the most offensive special in the game. It would have to be weaken significantly to fit into smash.
Problem. Ryu's moveset is based off the gameplay mechanic of Kirby's fighter ability in Superstar/Ultra where depending on how you pressed the button you get a different attack. (The fighting ability was also based off Ryu. It comes full circle). So unless there is a Sakurai game that uses a similar gameplay mechanic as your idea, than I don't know the likelihood.
My problem is exclusivity. Sure, I can see some grabs using a charger attack, but I don't think chargers need to be only used in grabs.
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Adding to the OP right away.
Plus it could cover the stage in ink for you to squid in
Which I did. A) it's not an OHKO (although it's still pretty dang powerful), and B) it has to be charged for a whole second (plus the lag of actually shooting the thing).
A) Not being in a Sakurai game doesn't make something unlikely to appear in Smash. Heck, holding the button to do a different action is a common enough game mechanic; I highly doubt that Ryu only has the feature because Kirby used to. Rather, it was to accommodate his many inputs in Street Fighter, much like how the overcharged smashes accommodate both the ink mechanic and the special weapons from Splatoon.
The problem I personally have with this idea is that it's unneccesarily complex.
I don't see how "charge the attack for a more powerful weapon" is "unnecessarily complex." The overcharged specials are tied into the ink; you can only use them while you're on your own turf, so laying down ink is rewarded.
IndigoSSB
Yes, with three different perks.
Only one per attack, though. I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
I don't see how the overcharge mechanic is a detriment to the moveset. Yes, there are other reasons to lay down ink, but A) the more the merrier, and B) most of the other uses are only good when you're fighting up-close and personal. Erm, squidonal. Thus, I decided to inklude a perk that benefits players who prefer to fight at a distance, hence the overcharged smashes. Forward Smash is for general onstage camping, able to keep opponents at bay with its large vertical reach. Up Smash is for a "blend" of up-close and far-away combat -- it's easiest to land if you knock an opponent into the Inkstrike, as it's very telegraphed -- and Down Smash is for both up-close fighting and hitting foes below platforms, whether it be hiding on a top platform of a stage or edgeguarding someone below the ledge.
Makes me wonder if we'll start getting other Splatfests that happen for other places as well.
Munomario777
If something is a character's core mechanic, it should be present throughout the moveset (if possible without making it worse). Luma doesn't just use specials; he has a full moveset, inkluding standards. Olimar uses Pikmin for his specials, smashes, grab game, aerials... everything but standards, pretty much. Shulk's arts don't just affect his specials; they affect all of his attacks. Robin's mechanic is present in aerials and smashes thanks to the levin sword, as well as his jab finishers. Not having attacks spread ink because they wouldn't do that logically (like I did with my moveset, where many standards consist of physical attacks) is one thing, but not having the inkbrush spread ink because "it's not a special" doesn't make much sense logically, and isn't really justified from a gameplay perspective either.
I'll admit, after reading it again the attacks with the Inkbrush may have turned out a bit generic. However, I still maintain that the Ink mechanic should be focused on the Inkling's specials. In a lot of the smash character already existing their special attacks tend to be more iconic moves that represent the character well. I'd like to keep that train of thought with this moveset. Point taken about being too similar to a swordsmen though, but I still think that the Inkbrush should spread minimal amounts of ink. Same with the Splat Roller, I forgot to mention how holding the button will allow you to roll it.
Yes, but you also lose a lot of the options that a normal dive would allow you. One of these is tricking your opponent; you could squid dive to feint an approach, but stop halfway through to bait out an attack for a punish. A regular dive would also allow the Inkling to adapt to an opponent's movement; if the Inkling dives into the ink and the opponent moves towards their original position, in your version of the set, they can't "turn around." However, they can with a Splatoon-style dive, allowing for more versatility. And also, there's the matter of the change just not being necessary in the first place.
You do make a good point with the slowing-down mechanic. Perhaps rather than slowing opponents down, ink could instead damage opponents over time, causing them to constantly be "inked" (a mechanic in my moveset where hitting opponents with ink-based attacks causes them to take a bit of damage over time, like in Splatoon). I'll play around it and see what I can come up with.
My point here wasn't necessarily about staying true to the source material, but rather to the core of the character's gameplay in Smash. For Rosalina, the core of her gameplay is the Luma. For Robin, that happens to align with a major mechanic in Fire Emblem, like the Inkling's mechanic does. So yes, perhaps that was the more apt comparison.
i dont see why not there have been some good ones all round
