Infinite Grab (Video now up on first post)

[waks]

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Nice Find :D Though kinda situational, but still nice.

 

[MuBa]

And this is why I love Snake....Awesome find Cecil mad props to you!

 

[WIN]

cool, but highly...highly situational. All the same, nice find bro.

and "lol" @ psycho's comment.

"I'm not cocky I swear" hehe, yaright.

 

[PsychoMidget]

you dare accuse the great psychomidget of being cocky?

shield your eyes for you are no longer privileged enough to gaze upon my posts

 

[Cecilanius]

oh sh- *explodes* I meant it in a good way I swear

 

[unixphone]

gotta give you a thumb up man. good find

 

[Cecilanius]

cool, but highly...highly situational.

I think you can move just a little bit during the grabs to get closer the person. So if you think you are too far away. You need to carefully move towards the other person.

Fox's stage can be an easy place to this grab. Three platforms and two edges. You just need to scare your opponent to go into that location.

 

[AlAxe]

Wow great find. Does this work on every character and every stage with a ledge?

 

[Cecilanius]

Yes, it works with every ledge. But, I'm not sure about every character. I haven't got to try it to all characters. All I know is it works from the tall people like Ike, to the smaller people like Olimar.

 

[wazgood]

sorry if this has been aksed before, but does this work on platforms too? if it does then itll be even more broken since theres no ledge invincibility

 

[Depressed Man]

Yes it works on platforms too.

 

[S2]

Okay, so clarify for me...

is it possible to break out of this grab or is it a true infinite (assuming Snake doesn't make a mistake)?

 

[Depressed Man]

From what people has tested so far (character size, moves, etc..) it seems to be an infinite unless Snake makes a mistake.

 

[Squall_Leonhart]

Nice find.

Could anyone check with another player if Ike's bAir can interrupt it? I've tried against the CPU and he manged to get out of it with Ike's bAir, It could have been my fault as I might have grabbed too late or something.. but just to make sure cause Ike's bAir is really fast.

 

[DTKPch]

Isn't it possible to fast fall to a ledge, like in melee?
Does that affect it?

 

[Hax]

holy crap.. props... major props

 

[FrozenFire13]

It's possible for some characters to get out of it. I just don't know how many. Wario, for example, can immediately UpB out of it. At least the comp. does.

 

[Skazryk]

nice, i never thought of trying that.

 

[Cecilanius]

Umm, Can't you just grab someone as they are doing the upB? If you move your position a little. maybe you can lessen the effects of the upB so there is no knock back by moving just a little~ bit.

 

[FrozenFire13]

Idk. Try it against a Wario comp. I can get it against all the other characters I've tried it on, but I could have just been getting the timing wrong with the Wario.

 

[Cecilanius]

It seems you can do it at different times. If you get it perfect, the other person cannot do anything about it. But, if you wait just a little bit, wario can do the upB. I usually grab at the top of the head to know if I am doing it at the right time or not. When I see myself grab a little lower,. I fix my beat on the grabbing.

 

[FrozenFire13]

Can you, or anyone else for that matter, make sure that it's possible to do it on every character. And if not, make a list of characters that you can't do it with? I'm too busy with school work right now to spend to much time on it.

 

[Cecilanius]

I will once I get to go over my friend's house for a lengthy amount of time

 

[goodoldganon]

I'll look into this in a little bit. Looks like some good info. Situational for sure, but still good stuff.

 

[Twin Dreams]

I thought it was situational at first as well. But, really, this isn't that un-probable. Specifically, when the opponent is recovering.

 

[Wing-Zero]

i tried this yesterday and it worked mostly but i could have messed up for the times it didnt work

 

[Ballistics]

where is an action replay when you need one? any updates on the testing of this thing? I can imagine this working well when shieldgrabbing someone's get up hit animation from the ledge

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

I tested this out in training mode. This doesn't work on everyone. For this to work, the character must be at least Ness' height or they can fast fall to escape. Great Find though.

 

[Ballistics]

thanks eterenal

 

[FrozenFire13]

Yeah, I've been having problems with comps FFing out of this. I don't know why they are smart enough to do that. Seems like Sakurai spent too much time making the comps better instead of focusing on ATs. *sigh at incoming flames*

 

[Wave⁂]

Does FF'ing really help that much?

 

[ch_checkmeout]

Can I name this the "Windmill Grab of Fury?"

 

[Cecilanius]

Why windmill?

 

[abit_rusty]

Why windmill?

closest thing I can think of is an old melee reference (jokingly) to samus's dash attack.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vnT_eaOVNJ4

which has nothin to do with grabs lol.

 

[FrozenFire13]

Does FF'ing really help that much?

Against this it does, yeah. When Snake puts you down, if you time it right, I'm pretty sure you can FF out of it before Snake can grab again. Haven't tested it myself, but after so many times, comps FF before I can grab again.

 

[dr0go]

do comps always FF?because they probably always get it right but people dont so if you can always get out by FF then this move will depend on who makes a mistake first.whoever has more experience in this move whether it is aplying it or getting out of it doesnt matter since the one aplying it already did some damage while the one getting grabbed gained nothing which makes this a good move if you do it correctly.
NICE FIND!!!

 

[Hylian]

I haven't read this thread, but I really hope people know that you can just airdodge out of this...

This doesn't work on any character. And I know I am doing it right.

 

[Cecilanius]

I haven't read this thread, but I really hope people know that you can just airdodge out of this...

This doesn't work on any character. And I know I am doing it right.

It depends on where you drop the person sometimes. If it's a smaller person, farther away from the edge is a better spot to dthrow them than being right over the edge.

Well, you can do the same thing to get out of any chain grab. It's like a motion of using a wave dash but slower. It just has to be at a precise time. I've gotten out of Falco's chain grab on the second time my friend threw me down. Same with D3's grab.

 

[StoleUrCar]

Argh my cousin plays lucas a lot and this is tough to do on him >.<


But awesome discovery I never really got to thank you cuz all that i posted here was that i was confused (b4 the vid was up lol). So thanks :D

 

[Junker4life]

couldn't the player try to FF down out of it then recover since they are in the air off the stage?