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Inception mafia: Town and Indy Joint Win!

Terywj [태리]

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It's Tandora's fault for causing us to substitute out.

On a different game, both we and Tandora were part of the Mafia, and on the sideboard, Tandora posted something along the lines of, "Meh. Whatever, just pressure Joey/Tery to cave in."

Would have been unfair, so we substituted out.
 

July

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Haha J <3 Oh my god once this game started and you kicked X1 and the game went from Cinemafia to Nice Point I was soo jealous not to be in this game, this was a really awesome set-up and fun to watch.

J and Ran were both playing like bosses, definitely agree this is the best town game I've seen Ran play. J kept throwing doubt on different players, and it even worked with Rockin, but not Ran so it was definitely an impressive show and an impressive battle between you guys.

But watching the final 6 (Ran, J, Swords, Rockin, Vocal, Nabe) working everything out was really interesting, you were all playing really well and I was rooting for you all to find the remaining scum lol.

Good job town!!
 

Terywj [태리]

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Yeah, I was following ever since Nabe replaced me, and thinking what I would have done in the situations and stuff.

At least Swords remembered that I was originally in this game.
 

#HBC | J

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I remembered Tery was in this game ;_;

*is in the middle of shoutouts*

Why do I have to love to write so much? Dx
 

#HBC | J

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We got REALLY paranoid with you Vocal. But **** there was no way you were dieing because we picked a horrendous N1 pick. My bad luck brought our teams pick down ;_;

I find it funny though the BP was Doc protected with the Mafia targetted them for a NK.
 

#HBC | Dancer

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Hmmm to vote J for MVP or not to vote J for MVP, that is the question.

I simply cannot agree with the strategy of taking X1 out so early but damn J played an extremely good game. Almost nothing scummy until the end when J was forced to do scummy things to survive. So incredibly solid.

Um, did Ran visit me the same Night J did (after I was revived)?
 

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It was a little more than that Tery. What had happened was Tery mentioned the above to me, so I told them about the game. Well then I realized there could be other people with access to that qt in my game. So i asked Tery. Three of my players had access. So rather than replace three people, Tanny had to be modkilled.
 

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I found it funny as well, gave me a chuckle when I found out :grin: Still, wish I could've kept DH alive, would have been nice to not need to worry about a night kill
 

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I will open it up for votes on MVP, as I think that is a good system. My votes on j for sure though. Reasons later
 

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Arthur, mafia executioner. Nabe had it 100% right on flavour guidelines....he's good at flavour that guy o-o
Yeah boi. Were you given the character claim? It definitely seemed solid until the game dragged on no-kills and I reevaluated the situation.


For the record, I always do a lategame analysis to some extent. This game happened to give me a mountain of flavour to analyze on top of the game-checking, that's all. IMO a necessary thing, because while things can seem obvious to some people, it's much better to have a lategame post conglomerating all of town's knowledge. No townie will miss the facts, and no scummie can feign ignorance.


Good lengthening by J. It was a shame for you that Vocal claimed tracker, you'd have had the game otherwise.

Rockin lynch was funny, although I'm sure it seemed like a good idea for town at the time. Imagine having a mafia Tricker of Watchers with no town Watcher in the game -- ******* modding at its finest.


Well done, town. I will definitely admit that Ran held on strong.
 

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bleh.

still a bit mad about my death, but then again I did kinda quicklynched.

but then the case against me was so bad...ugh

J did good, regardless
 

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Yeah boi. Were you given the character claim? It definitely seemed solid until the game dragged on no-kills and I reevaluated the situation.


For the record, I always do a lategame analysis to some extent. This game happened to give me a mountain of flavour to analyze on top of the game-checking, that's all. IMO a necessary thing, because while things can seem obvious to some people, it's much better to have a lategame post conglomerating all of town's knowledge. No townie will miss the facts, and no scummie can feign ignorance.


Good lengthening by J. It was a shame for you that Vocal claimed tracker, you'd have had the game otherwise.

Rockin lynch was funny, although I'm sure it seemed like a good idea for town at the time. Imagine having a mafia Tricker of Watchers with no town Watcher in the game -- ******* modding at its finest.


Well done, town. I will definitely admit that Ran held on strong.
Well we had a silencer from beyond the grave, that messed with my mind already.

Vote: J for MVP

You played very well, as I said earlier. It was always hard to think of you as scum; if I ever play a game with you again I'll be sure to keep that in mind ;)
 

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This gaaaame.

Ugh. I'm really sorry about our replacing out. I'm really sorry about my play. I let feelings get in the way, and that plus bad communication with my hydra partner really ruined it for us. I'm really sorry about that Tery, and if we hydra again, then that will be something I will try very hard to fix. Maybe we can make a quick topic between the both of us and that may be better.

Tanny, I'm REALLY sorry about the modkill. I honestly just felt that it was really unfair that we knew about you being mafia after the X1 flip along with a few others. I really am sorry. We weren't able to sub in after the modkill because Ronike revealed the other mafia member to us afterwards by accident XD! It was fun learning about the setup though!

Honestly, I believe that Rockin' deserves MVP. He tried really hard this game, and quite honestly he shouldn't have gotten lynched at all. He knew that J was mafia, and from what I saw, he was the only person that REALLY stuck with it, nothing getting too in the way.

Vote: Rockin

I really am sorry about this game. I know that day 1 was really pathetic for us, and I know that we got extremely mad at the town. That's something that will be fixed later though. Thank you for taking our spot and playing it well, Nabe! ^_^
 

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Kuz said:
Pretend I claimed sane cop and told you nabe was inno.
Ranmaru has not been CCd and no Jailer has claimed (they would out him if they existed)
Rockin is so legit, its not even funny. If we specifically have a tricker of watchers, and only one watcher claim, hes so legit.
Kuz said:
In the amount of time it would take to convince you Nabe is not mafia, the world might collapse.

Just take it as fact. Nabe is not mafia. He may or may not be indy, probably town.
Kuz said:
Also, if any of the vanillas try to claim anything different once i'm dead, lynch em.
Kuz's words of wisdom before death. LISTEN TO THEM NEXT TIME.

Nabe looked obvtown. His lynch was dumb dumb dumb

Rockin looked even more obvtown. His lynch was dumb dumb dumb dumb looking forward to the weekend dumb.

Why didn't town review night actions ffs. Vocal tracked Rockin Night 4 and he only saw him visit ranmaru. However, night 4 swords died as well, meaning Rockin could not have been the killer. Simple stuff, needs to be done at any endgame.

Also, you guys seriously lynched the only mod confirmed pr? That's so grody. Instead of wifoming yourself into thinking the mod had given scum a stupid fake claim, should have taken it at face value. Man that lynch just really annoys me. Salty.

The reasoning for lynching J the final Day was horrendous, even though it was the right choice. Swords, if you thought J was not mafia, then why would you go through on his lynch anyway? Makes no sense whatsoever. Vocal had been playing a much quieter game and probably should have looked more suspicious through your POV. Same thing to you Ran. Just because J made a case on a townie, does not make him scum. The thought process that led you to ScumJ could have just as easily led you to townJ. You say Vocal had not been played scmmy all game, while in reality, it was J who was putting in the work getting his hands dirty. His scummy appearance should not have been determined from the fact that he went strong against the watcher, but because he was being scummy. Its like you switched from your adamant D9 stance of J so town to J so scum by D10 for largely unexplained reasons.

@Vocal, congratz about winning as indy. Its not the easiest thing to accomplish and you should be congratulated.

@J, Good try. Shooting yourself in the foot like that D1 was one of the dumbest things you could have done, imo, but it fooled me well enough while I was still alive. IMO, your scum play is pretty easy to pick up on, but I was blindsided by DH and KY who were both scummy as hell and that bus was legit looking. Was apparent to me when you lied about being a vt and said you got a cop investigation from a fallen player, just to use it on the only 100% confirmed town player. I don't know how town let that slip through the cracks either. BTW, your reactions after you lynched rockin were obvscum imo. You knew Rockin was town as soon as you lynched him and completely flip flopped stances once the hammer was dropped. Tipped the scale from sincere to just outright bad acting. You must also be congratulated, though, for surviving this far with all the impediments put in place against you. Almost pulled it off and I still can't believe you made it past D8.

@DH, worst idea ever. Not only did you lie about your role but you also ended the day for town with the assumption we would have lynched you if you didn't. Self preservation at its finest and, if mafia was not already in terrible shape, it could have cost town.

@KY, play less scummy. Thanks.

@X1, lolbus. Your play D1 reminded of how you tried to take advantage of me in BaF and I was onto you as scum when you made that weird comment about KY that Cello picked up on as well. Was kinda silly J bussed their PR instead of the goon.

@Tandora, D2 was typical scumdora as I remember from DnD ^_^. Too bad about the modkill, quicktopics can be confusing at times.

@Cello, bleh @ replacing out. You did well when you were alive, though.

@Teryble, sorry for getting on your case in thread about replacing out. Shouldn't have assumed it was just due to laziness, but thats what it looked like at the time. No hard feelings. You were obvtown with that AtE and Nabe just made the slot look all the better.

@Rockin, I didn't find the attempted quick hammer all the scummy but swords sure did. Too bad you weren't a minute sooner :p Your responses to J made it seem like you were very unsure of yourself, as you kept giving credence to J's side of the argument. J argued with blatant over confidence, even though most of his stuff was reaching, but you seemed very reserved almost defeated. Not surprised he won.

Glad town won, though. Wish I could have done more while alive.
 

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TBH, I don't think any town member really deserves a MVP, including myself

There were 3 mafias. One Mafia was bussed on D1 by a pr to add. I don't think a lot really suspected x1 from the getgo and even if they did, there wasn't enough of a push to really get him lynched. Tanny got modkilled. Nuff said. J was only lynched by proccess of elimination and not cause of scummy behavior/any sort of suspection.

Yes, I pushed for his lynch, but only cause of some stuff I saw that were scummy, but even then, townies were hesitant to lynch him based on his kill D1.

Granted, from a mafia's point, I do believe J deserves it for sticking out as long as he did.
 

#HBC | J

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Kuzi is the only guy I know who will come into this after the game is all and finished and say every scummy was so obvscum and so predictible with their scumplay that they would have been lynched if he was alive.

Idk I find it funny and I guess that's one of the reasons why I love playing with you Kuzi. <3
 

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@Kuz:

Yeah I noticed J's flipflop after Rockin's lynch. I KNEW from there it had to be him because he had to deflect blame onto Vocal, when he NEVER SUSPECTED HIM before.

I have asked about Vocal a jillion times and no one really thought about him lol.

J would have to have claimed he was an indie to get people to think Vocal was mafia.
 

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Kuzi is the only guy I know who will come into this after the game is all and finished and say every scummy was so obvscum and so predictible with their scumplay that they would have been lynched if he was alive.

Idk I find it funny and I guess that's one of the reasons why I love playing with you Kuzi. <3
Oh don't take what Kuzi said completely serious.

http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/Jvng8xxJXxTK

read the latest page and laugh. He seemed very unsure about me being scum from that point LOL
 

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I DONT EVEN FREAKING KNOW ANYMORE LOL

xDDDD Man Kuzi.

Also, I never said J was town. I just thought Rockin was scummier than J because of his actions.

Nabe/Delv were obvtown but I wasn't sure.

I knew after Rockin was lynched, that I needed to go back on J.
 

#HBC | Dancer

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@Kuz: True I didn't think J was mafia last Day, but thing is I didn't think anyone else was mafia at all. J simply was the only remaining gray area at that point, more so than anyone else.

Btw I think you mixed some of what Ran said up with what I said. I never once said that I didn't believe Vocal was scummy, Ran said that.
 

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@Rockin, I didn't find the attempted quick hammer all the scummy but swords sure did. Too bad you weren't a minute sooner :p Your responses to J made it seem like you were very unsure of yourself, as you kept giving credence to J's side of the argument. J argued with blatant over confidence, even though most of his stuff was reaching, but you seemed very reserved almost defeated. Not surprised he won.
Eh.

I sounded 'defeated' mostly cause of the fact that my two only known townies were WIFOMing themselves to death and looked very unsure, especially sworddancer. Ranmaru seemed to be 'going with the flow' of things instead of actually decifering who was scummy or not.

I mean, seriously. "Mafia Watcher?" "Mafia Tracker?" wtf guys?

I just got angry that no one wanted to take the ignititive and actually listened to my plan of the 'process of elimination.'

Like I said many times. "Don't oversimply yourself," especially at fragile moments like MYLO
 

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I think I also just got tired of the game itself. It was too much of strain to go on any further and I was irritated by the lack of kills...

I really felt J should've killed last night and coated Vocal to lynch swords. it was risky, but it would be better then the position he was in now.
 

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Same thing to you Ran. Just because J made a case on a townie, does not make him scum. The thought process that led you to ScumJ could have just as easily led you to townJ. You say Vocal had not been played scmmy all game, while in reality, it was J who was putting in the work getting his hands dirty.
@Sword, Yeah it was directed at Ran.

@Rockin, I hear you. If I was in your position I would have been really mad as well. However, I would have yelled it down their throats way more often than you did. You referenced it a few times, but it was obvious their minds kept drifting back to other things. I would have kept bringing up the absolute ludicriousness of giving a mafia a pr to trick another one of their PRs (since you were confirmed watcher)
 

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Yeah you were asking me "why were you siding with J?" when I was re-evaluating my reads. Sheesh and I DID not like the process of elimination lynches at all.

I liked the nabe/delvro lynches tho, cuz I was confused about them. xD

I was never so sure lol. Same as people were suspicious of me.

and I LOVE J's paragraph about me <3

But yeah I was pushing for J earlier but I guess I didn't convince people that J could have been mafia.
 

#HBC | J

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Just commenting now but that QT is hilarious. Kuzi sooooo good at acting like he knows it all =P

@Rockin: I wanted to Kill N9 but I messed up in communicating with the mod.

 

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I really felt J should've killed last night and coated Vocal to lynch swords. it was risky, but it would be better then the position he was in now.
Agreed, but even Vocal said he would not have followed along with the "win with J" strat. Idk what he would have done in game, but thats what he claimed he would have done.
 

#HBC | J

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Agreed, but even Vocal said he would not have followed along with the "win with J" strat. Idk what he would have done in game, but thats what he claimed he would have done.
After Rockin's lynch my chance of winning went to 0%.

There was absolutely NOTHING I could have done to win. Not a single thing and the loss became more prevelant the longer I stayed alive. I'll comment more with my shout-outs.
 

#HBC | J

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I did end up calling it right in the end w/o any help. Then the game got kinda idle so I stopped posting.
I mean congratz and all but I still stayed alive so nya nya nya =P

Lol I love messing with you when I'm in a good mood over something. ^.^
 

#HBC | J

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But yeah I was pushing for J earlier but I guess I didn't convince people that J could have been mafia.
I comment on this in your shout out but this is kindof one of the reasons why I kept you in. See you had all the pieces in front of you and you seemed to know that I was mafia but the thing was is that you couldn't convince or persuade anyone to think otherwise then what they all thought which just ends up sucking in the end. =/ Most of the time you have to be more adamant about things and do something compelling because honestly if anyone could have gotten me lynched this game, it would have been you.
 

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[23:12] jbandit999: Vocal
[23:12] jbandit999: looks good
[23:12] tandoravonsydow: That was my choice too. I think Vocal has made good points and is pretty townie
[23:12] jbandit999: true
[23:13] jbandit999: and he actually wanted to call me scummy before my move
Callllllled it.
 

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I remembered Tery was in this game ;_;

*is in the middle of shoutouts*

Why do I have to love to write so much? Dx
The more text the better I feel. <3

Shout outs soon, making them :3
 
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