Inception mafia: Town and Indy Joint Win!

[-Vocal-]

Vocal, tell me if there's anything wrong with this thought:

If he quickhammered, the mafia would be quick lynched tomorrow. No one wants that, so they refrain.

I'm ready to vote Rockin. Who all is in favor - do we have a majority?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

If he quickhammered, the mafia would be quick lynched tomorrow. No one wants that, so they refrain.

I'm ready to vote Rockin. Who all is in favor - do we have a majority?

However, asssuming the mafia is between J and Rockin, the other one is just going to be lynched toMarrow anyways, correct? So at this point they would want to survive on a Day to Day basis. Thoughts?

I want J to answer my question before the hammer.

 

[-Vocal-]

However, asssuming the mafia is between J and Rockin, the other one is just going to be lynched toMarrow anyways, correct? So at this point they would want to survive on a Day to Day basis. Thoughts?

I want J to answer my question before the hammer.

Yes, this is true. As long as we are certain it is between those two (I am) then they can't really win at this point; any modest gain could have it's own intrinsic value, I suppose

I just can't wrap my head around the idea that Ronike would create a Tricker of Watchers with no town or indie aligned watchers. At the same time, I also can't wrap my head around the idea that mafia would bus one of their strongest roles before the first day even ended. Both seem so illogical yet one of them must be true...

 

[#HBC | J]

Post is almost done. I think.

Well 80% done.

Will def be up tonight.

 

[#HBC | J]

4.) Rockin, question for you. If we were to lynch Kirbyoshi and he were to pop Town Suicidal you would be lynched next. Are you okay with this? Are you that confident? Give me your answer and let's see what happens.

Yes. I would be completly okay with being lynched if KY pops up as town.

I want to put my vote Kuz, but I'm more focused on KY. If KY comes up as Mafia, it would make Cello's sudden reaction to my case on KY's role a bit more clear, as well as Kuz (who was following Cello). Don't get me wrong though, he's slightly scummy even without the need of KY's flip, but only slightly (it's mainly cause he didn't want to answer my question on D1 and his sudden interest of wanting to lynch me).

I'd be willing to trust you more yes. Viewpoint I'd need to think about it more.

I'd be willing to trust you more now if you were to put your vote on th3kuzi.

So are you saying you are 100% okay to be lynched if KY pops town? Even though you extremely highly doubt this fact.

So would you stop a th3kuzi lynch to prevail your KY lynch?

Your voting KY because you think he is a liar and has scummy behaviour.

You realize that if we were to lynch KY and he would pop town then we have a NK and assuming you would possibly be town then another NK we would be down 4 people.

Then we would still have to lynch th3kuzi which we had put off for 2 Days.

Are you still okay with a possible 4 townies dieing to make sure 100%? Are you this confident to put of th3kuzi lynch till D6?

Oh, that was your case on me? I shall check that in a second

And also, fine J. Since you seem to really want Kuz gone (can't blame ya much lol)

Unvote Vote: Kuz

this doesnt SCREAM weird to anyone????

holy freaking cow.

Like I said in my big post, I switched it because of J. I told him I wanted KY GONE. I disliked his claim, and I was so confident, that if KY DID flip town, I would be willingly lynched. If KY came up as scum, I would've went with a Kuz lynch the next Day cause the moment when I mentioned my dislike and reason of the claim, Kuz put the scum label on me.

For the moment, Kuz is scummy TO A DEGREE. If KY flips scum, it would make his scumminess more valid.

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In this Kuzi even points out how weird it was for Rockin to ditch someone he was willing to DIE for just to appease me. He even continues to pronounce that he would be more then happy to take the lynch if KY did in fact flip town but he never once reminded anyone of this. During a re-read I saw and remembered this. So he only said this to gain some points and try and seem more confident when in reality....it was a straight up lie.

anyway...

Let me explain my reason of feeling you're scummy, J

First of all, it was your constant need of wanting both me and Ranmaru to use our power on each other throughout the rest of the night. while it secures us both, it deminishes our power to help town when it counts, and it lets Mafia tackle other players freely without any worry of being watched or their victim protected.

Second, last day was really anti-town. Not only did you lead a quick wagon on someone, but the day ended SO fast. Argh. Information is important to town, and there's nothing to dig up from a near instant lynch.

Third, and what really puts me off, is your target of this 'so called' power. You chose someone...who died as a townie, who was brought back the next day after. That was merely a waste. I know you questioned his role...for there ARE roles where a townie could be lynched and then come back as a mafia the next day but...ugh. There are two dead townies already, plus a third one on the loose. Don't you think that'd be a biiiiiit broken in the setup?

IMO, you have made several reckless/careless choices and yes, while you did manage to kill off a mafia member with your power, really puts me off in some of your later plays.

First point, it wasn't just me and after re-reading I didn't even hound you two are made threats that you two should protect each other. I told you two to.

Yeah, I know. o.o

what's wrong, you wanted the day to be a bit longer?

I wanted to hear from Vocal more because what he is saying at the current time I am not liking whatsoever and I'm thinking over moving it to:

Vocal>Ran

We had three more days but there is nothing we can do now.

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Man you are trying hard to paint me as scum...-_-;

I honestly don't have to try hard at all since you are scum and it's so blatantly obvious.

Didn't swords say NOT to use the quicklynching in your case? Now who's not listening...>>

Now that that's done...

You bolded the wrong line because that wasn't what I was talking about. I was talking about at the beginning of the day in which you tried to lynch me before I could talk.

You bring up an interesting point though, Did you know you have actually tried to, not once, not twice, but three times get me quick-lynched? You did so when you saw me visiting Swords, you did so at the beginning of toDay, and you also tried to quickhammer. I could comment alot on all three of those situations and bring them up to remind people why you are scum for such blatant scummy behaviour but Swords has asked me not to but since you decided to try and point out that I brought up the Quicklynching, let's really bring them up if you want to.

It's called 'research.' Do it sometimes, ya?

Why don't you just prove to us that watchers are never mafia? Oh wait, you can't. Soon you'll be saying cops/docs can't be scum roles either

*insert Rita's ice cream break here*

*insert squabble with Seph about not knowing what Rita's is*

*continues post*

*finds out homework is actually due tomorrow instead of Wednesday.*

*freaks but finds out everything is still good*

*continues post*

Swords, I honestly cannot say why Rockin would kill who he did each night because whom he did kill seemed like pretty obvious choices and it also makes sense for why I have been alive so long because ever since he got all the easy lynches in line (i.e. Tom/DH/KY/Delvro/Nabe) He has made it very close to killing me quite a few times and has hurt my town credibility so bad that I have been a lynch candidate for quite some time but he kept urging people to forget that I executioned X1-12. However I cannot give a full answer because there is nothing I can say but speculation on my part.

 

[#HBC | J]

Ack didn't finish a quote because I got distracted by finding stuff. To Rockin's scummy actions he has found on me.

Point two: He tries to blame me for the KY quicklynch. Which just is not true in the slightest.

Point three: Is just his opinion.

Overall his "case" on me is just so full of fallacies.

 

[#HBC | J]

I love Dahlia and I miss using her in my posts ;_;

I should use her more.

 

[ranmaru]

Yes you should.

Rockin can Die now.

 

[Rockin]

Yes you should.

Rockin can Die now.

Woah, so quick.

can I at least answer before I'm lynched?

 

[#HBC | J]

Maybe, but if you keep spouting lies, I'm becoming less and less leniant on having you live and continue to "attempt" and squirm your way out.

You cannot run from these lies because they are right there in black and white that you HAVE lied and continue to do so.

Now die.

 

[#HBC | J]

Woah, so quick.

can I at least answer before I'm lynched?

Can I also point out the hypocrisy in which you wouldn't let me talk and called for a quicklynch on me three times?

How ironic wouldn't you say?

 

[Rockin]

That is so hypocritical. You say you would have voted KY ANYWAYS even though he was quicklynched but you say you b****ed at everyone for doing what you would have done anyways. Why did you bring up the fact that you got mad at everyone? It doesn't help your case whatsoever but you're trying to say, "Look at the town action I did! Even though I got what I wanted I'm still gonna yell at them!"

I would have voted for KY anyways, yes. But I wouldn't try to lynch so fast without information being brought to the table anyways. How do we know nothing else happened on that day? How do we know what other people may have wanted to share?

On that day, we wouldn't know cause everyone was so quick on ending the day without a lack of discussion, to which was why I RAGED. Major difference.

In this Kuzi even points out how weird it was for Rockin to ditch someone he was willing to DIE for just to appease me. He even continues to pronounce that he would be more then happy to take the lynch if KY did in fact flip town but he never once reminded anyone of this. During a re-read I saw and remembered this. So he only said this to gain some points and try and seem more confident when in reality....it was a straight up lie.

Ahh, looking it over now, I do kinda remember me saying that. If I did say that (which it seems that I did), I guess I was waiting for people to try and pressure me after that lynch, yet no one has really done this or try to bring this back to me after that lynch (which is odd that you NEVER brought this to my attention or try to lead that lynch against me after I 'said that').

Also, I never really felt it's good to say 'K, guess I was wrong, lynch me' cause it seems like one is taking pity on town ****ing up. Mistakes/misreads happen. Yes, I was confident and was willing to be lynch ON THOSE GROUNDS, but no one has really brought it to my attention till NOW.

I say that reason is pretty cold (as in temperature) for you to lynch me imo.

Pressure of Ranmaru you are now doing in fact to conjoin us both as indie lovers? Hypocrisy thy name is Rockin.

Your opinion of my night action choice for one-shot cop is duely noted, but again how is that scummy?

Your reasons that were stated in mid-February are found here and I already refuted them soundly.

I'm not really doing any pressure to Ranmaru. I'm just disliking the questions he's asking, that's all. I never said your Night action choice was scummy. I just don't like it.

Are you serious? You just admitted to having NO SCUM READS WHATSOEVER all game. No action has been scummy to you? No one has ever popped up on your scum list? Everyone all game has been null. That is what you are saying? So you are saying nothing I have done is scummy and nothing KY did was scummy? Your two big scum-picks....wait I mean null-picks by your logic. You have to be joking. Listen this is so contradicting if it wasn't pointed out then I just don't even know, it HAS to to be pointed out. So there is no-one at all whom you find to be scummy? WAIT, you said you found me to be scummy?

see this is why I'm wondering if you're reading clearly or not.

I said from beginning to MID DAY. MID DAY /=/ ALL DAY. As in, from D1/D3 to D4/D7 I didn't find anything scummy or anything that really jumped off to me that said 'they're scum.' Days/hours after that, I found at least one or two people a bit scummy.

Way wrong. The day wasn't even close to deadline and your little "favor" costed us three whole days of discussion when we were still talking. I have a quote to prove this when you prematurely hammered.

I consider 3 days before deadline as 'close to deadline' in my books.

You bring up an interesting point though, Did you know you have actually tried to, not once, not twice, but three times get me quick-lynched? You did so when you saw me visiting Swords, you did so at the beginning of toDay, and you also tried to quickhammer. I could comment alot on all three of those situations and bring them up to remind people why you are scum for such blatant scummy behaviour but Swords has asked me not to but since you decided to try and point out that I brought up the Quicklynching, let's really bring them up if you want to.

I didn't know night actions means quick hammers. Does that mean lynches means Night kills? Does the word 'pressure' means 'inactivity? o.o

Snaps. 1 vote means a quick hammer? Now I'm confused! is the new word for quickhammers night actions or 1 vote? Tell me, I want to be hip and popular too! DX;;

Why don't you just prove to us that watchers are never mafia? Oh wait, you can't. Soon you'll be saying cops/docs can't be scum roles either

There are actually Mafia based roles for cops and docs, but they're SO rare and I highly doubt anyone would really put any of those two in a game. I'm not even gonna try and pretend those things are in the game. >>

 

[#HBC | J]

That's a pretty shoddy defense. =/

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . .

what are the possibilities that both J and Rockin are town?

What if Delvo was mafia?

I'm WIFOMing myself so much right now that's it's not even funny.

 

[#HBC | J]

Lol Swords, Delvro being mafia. If he was then that would mean you could be up for a lynch as well.

But wait I got a cop inno on you....what if I was insane? Oh the WIFOM.

 

[Rockin]

What if Delvo was mafia?

Delvro is dead.

He turned up town. LOL

Maybe it'll be good you do a big post on how you feel on both J and myself (as well as Ranmaru and Vocal, if you like), so it may help you decide on who you want lynched (at least between us two).

 

[Rockin]

GUYS QUIT MAKING THE WIFOM.

sheesh, you guys suck at Mylo.

I finally see why KevinM strives SO HARD on wanting a strong mylo team. -_-

 

[#HBC | J]

Rockin can't take jokes.

Continue dissing town, it'll make us wanna keep you alive. ^.^

 

[Rockin]

Rockin can't take jokes.

Continue dissing town, it'll make us wanna keep you alive. ^.^

This is not the best time for jokes. -______-;

 

[ranmaru]

I'm not making wifom. Rockin is scum.

 

[#HBC | J]

Why so serious?

Your tension is becoming painfully obvious.

Sorry Rockin, but your time is up.

 

[ranmaru]

But yo Swords, Rockin is right. Make a decision. : D We gotta stop wifoming. It's confusing.

 

[Ronike]

Vote Count (3/5 to Lynch):
Rockin[0]: J, Ranmaru
Ranmaru[0]:
Sworddancer[0]:
-Vocal-[0]:
J[0]: Rockin

Not Voting: -Vocal-, Sworddancer

 

[Rockin]

@ mod: can we please get a vote count?

 

[#HBC | J]

Gotta agree with Rockin/Ranmaru.

Swords it is up to you.

Or Vocal if he comes in and hammers Rockin.

 

[ranmaru]

I believe in you Swords.

 

[ranmaru]

GUYS QUIT MAKING THE WIFOM.

sheesh, you guys suck at Mylo.

I finally see why KevinM strives SO HARD on wanting a strong mylo team. -_-

Well, I don't think you would have been here if it wasn't for your role. Same for
me, but I'm inexperienced so what you gonna do?

But I do feel quick lynching in Mylo is STUPID. So is leaving a vote early on, which you did.

 

[#HBC | J]

Also, Swords I did use ROB when I was playing brawl xD

Such a weird character!

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I hate this game. I don't get anything. Nothing makes logical sense.

I simply cannot accept that mod would set up watcher tricker just to set up a WIFOM in case the watcher tricker was lynched. I mean it's like having a Godfather and then having no cop BUT giving mafia a safe claim of cop. So weird.

Tanny buddying someone at all seems like a town tell to their credit. I don't think Tanny would directly say nice things about her teammates. Eh.

Plus, several people beforehand have gunned for J. I want to listen to them. It's so hard though.

But, Rockin tried to quick hammer, he ignored me . . .

and J didn't.

Also, J killed X1.

I hate myself. I hate myself because I'm probably about to lynch the town watcher when there is an anti-watcher mafia role.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Also, Swords I did use ROB when I was playing brawl xD

Such a weird character!

Coming from a peach main. >.>

 

[#HBC | J]

Heeeey there is nothing at all wrong with Peach!

She is so peachy <3

 

[ranmaru]

There was a mafia with a safe claim of cop in FE. D: <

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Was their a godfather though?

 

[ranmaru]

Oh naw. It was a Xiivi setup. lol.

Ummm, how about Vocal? Are we sure we got the numbers right?

 

[#HBC | J]

Swords if I am scum WHY DIDN'T I HAMMER?

Answer me that.

Now tell me, why would TownRockin not listen and actually try and lynch someone in MYLO?

 

[#HBC | J]

Swords, post 2449.

 

[ranmaru]

True, and he would rather take KevinM so that he could approve of his stupidity.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Vocal, once again same question, is J supposed to be a Mafia executioner and a silencer?

I actually have been a game with red herring roles to preserve a certain mafia PR.

In the disco room there was a Mafia Usurper Godfather with a Mafia Godfather (along with Tracker and One-Shot Hitman). The Usurper Godfather flipped and protected the Godfather from being found out and made it all the way to endgame.

Similar situation with Tricker of Watchers and Watcher being on the same mafia team. However we are just playing by set-up terms now.

I guess, but it still feels like a really rare situation.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Didn't Vocal track Rockin already?

 

[Rockin]

Okay sworddancer

if you don't want to lynch neither me or J, then who would would you rather lynch then?

I know this is a tough situation, but you got to make SOME sort of choice.