#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
none of this makes sense . . .
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Inception mafia: Town and Indy Joint Win!
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#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
Watcher safe claim is so bogus though.
*sigh*
*sigh*
Hey, if you want to hammer me, I wouldn't blame ya honestly.
However, I just want J lynched off cause out of all, I really don't think he's town. No one hasn't really taken my word into consideration and everytime when they do the opposite, I get upset about it.
Yes. Cause I want to end the day so as to see J flip scum.
I can't see anyone else as scum really aside from Vocal (but he has a winning condition, so he'll win in either way)
#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
KevinM quickhammered me in RG mafia and he was town.
I'll . . . just let vocal do it. I don't want to be on a wagon that I can't agree on all the way.
I'll . . . just let vocal do it. I don't want to be on a wagon that I can't agree on all the way.
ranmaru
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He's playing to win as town.
That was completely different but I understand your unwillingness.
I told everyone to hammer you when you specifically stated in your post to Rockin DO NOT HAMMER and he intentionally tried to hammer me.
Big difference.
In anycase, I'm gonna go off to work in a few minutes. Whatever you want to do sworddancer, do it.
Me however, I want to keep my vote right on J cause out of all other people, J has to be scum. Little to no exceptions.
I don't know why ranmaru is hesitant about lynching J or was being non-chilant about J pressuring him.
Me however, I want to keep my vote right on J cause out of all other people, J has to be scum. Little to no exceptions.
I don't know why ranmaru is hesitant about lynching J or was being non-chilant about J pressuring him.
#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
but . . . you ignored me bro . . .
and I was so confident in you being townie and everything . . .
*whimpers*
J, I'll give you the time.
Thank you, you won't be dissappointed. ^.^
I ignored your request for the best of town. Nothing personal.
I've just havn't been agreeing with what's been said, and what's been done. So I wanted to take the ignititive to my own hands cause I grew impatient to everyone oversimplifying something to what is so simple, especially last day.
I asked everyone it has to be a lynch between J or Nabe.
Most people picked Nabe, to which I didn't completely agree. I asked to state reasons and most have said it's because of 'lack of taking ignitive.' Something that can't really show info once Nabe flips. Why? Cause he didn't take the ignititive in anything!
a J lynch yesterday would've been more beneficial. We would've cleared the fact whether he was 100% town aligned or Mafia aligned in terms of his role, plus the game would've been over. If for some retarted reason he did flip town (highly unlikely), then I would've been opposed to a Nabe lynch then.
But no. Everyone chose the lack of info and thus, we don't have much info to really talk about in terms of his death.
The entire basis of your arguement as to why I am scum is based around my role and not myself.
You have stated this multiple times.
*goes back to writing*
Lol, you are so full of it it isn't even funny xD
Not really, J. I'm not really that egotistic or self centered.
Anyway sworddancer, I ignored your 'request' cause you didn't seem to really believe in me. Or to trust my words/judgement just like I have with yours when it came to Nabe. You shouldn't be so hesitant when you think someone is truly town. =/
In anycase, I'm off to work. Do whatever you feel is best.
Anyway sworddancer, I ignored your 'request' cause you didn't seem to really believe in me. Or to trust my words/judgement just like I have with yours when it came to Nabe. You shouldn't be so hesitant when you think someone is truly town. =/
In anycase, I'm off to work. Do whatever you feel is best.
I would've lynched Nabe.
Didn't mean it like that. Meant like you are so full of bologna because it is just not true. Should've clarified.
Always, but I disliked him hesitating on something that should be simple.
-Vocal-
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Willing to hear J's post. Prob going to be Smash 64ing for a little while (hour or so at most), i'll check up on the thread when I return
Willing to hear J's post. Prob going to be Smash 64ing for a little while (hour or so at most), i'll check up on the thread when I return
#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
X1 with that popcorn
Rockin you what would of really made me trust you? like even more so then I already did? not trying to hammer. If it was a concern of yours that I didn't fully trusted, then you could of easily of just gainned it.
Rockin you what would of really made me trust you? like even more so then I already did? not trying to hammer. If it was a concern of yours that I didn't fully trusted, then you could of easily of just gainned it.
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Right, I understand. Taking initiative is good. But is questioning bad?
#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
J your case better not mention what just happened because that would be unneeded.
#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
the grammer . . . the left out words . . .
Surprisingly, it doesn't. =P
ranmaru
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And why would it be unneeded?
#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
why do you think?
#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
ninja, was at Ran
Alright let's re-start this mofo.
Kay there is one main point I would like to point out in this little post here that is probably gonna take a while to write and quite some time to read but meh it's what I have to do or this game will be lost.
- Point out why exactly Rockin is scum
Let's go back ALL the way to D1? Sounds like a long time ago because it has already been two months since then and we are finally reaching a closing point here. However Rockin has done something he has done to me to what he has done to someone else and has tried to get away with doing it to me.
Does anyone remember someone named Kirbyoshi?
Yep, alright Rockin was the first to call out Kirbyoshi lieing about his role claim and continued to push his lynch and actually got him lynched D5(?). Rockin was shouting to all hills that KY was lieing and that he was not a town role and that he would risk his life on that but guess what? He lied there and never threw himself up for a lynch like he said he would if KY did flip town. Rockin NEVER stated why KY was scum but it was by the fact of his claim that made him scum and that it was so super obvious a role like his would be anti-town and not a town role. Now we are back to present day where we are facing the same situation where Rockin does not comment on how scummy I am but instead discredits my claim like crazy. He has continuously stated that I am scum because of MY ROLE, NOT for my scummy actions, NOT for my interactions, but because of my role. He has never stated why someone is scum, has hopped onto every wagon there was in this game and talked as little as he could unless he thought he could get away with an easy lynch. Where has Rockin given a scum-list and said that someone was town/scum? Most of his reads this entire game have been nulls. However the only two reads he was sold on was his reads on KY/J because he disbelieved their claims and therefore should die. Why? Where has he scum-hunted unless it is served on a silver platter and easy to discredit.
Rockin has had some interesting interactions this game. Let's see, kuzi pointed out on D2 after X1's scum-flip that Rockin had a literaly TWO posts that connected him to X1-12. As it is well-known, when X1-12 is mafia he tends not to talk to his scum-mates and even can be said to Tandora as he did not have many connections as well to him. However, you probably think all I have is meta on Rockin-X1-12 relationship? *Tsk* You should know me better. Kay, Rockin-X1-12 had a sort-of weird relationship but what was for certain was that neither of the two found the other scummy. X1-12 iirc hopped on Rockin because Cello did but never fullly believed he was scum because he was ready to hop on with him. Rockin, however, thought of X1-12 as town and did not see the point of my execution.
X1-12 and him had a very little connection but if you look at it, it consisted of buddying and finding each other town.
Rockin had another interesting relationship with Tandora. They also had a very consistent buddying pattern where they would both go inactive but when they posted they tried to mention each other and play up the other as town which was very interesting to watch, especially when Tandora hopped on to lynch Kirbyoshi with Rockin. She tried to play him up as town when she was alive and so did X1-12.
The relationship between this scum-team is weird because they all tried to play each other up as town and never really tried to throw suspicion in their direction. It worked because no one thought to connect these three.
Rockin has tried to get me lynched before all this nonsense began when he saw me visiting Swords during the night. He discredited my choice of whom I wanted to investigated with my one-shot cop ability and even said I HAD TO be scum since I visited him during the night even though nothing happened to Swords to state otherwise. He continued to tunnel the fact that it was inconcieveable that I was town.
Let's jump back to the beginning of the game, during Rockin's introduction post, he said to discredit any and all flavour arguements because they were dumb and just something that Ronike would do. Why would he try and discredit the flavour of the game? Interesting tidbit indeed since the flavour is there to PROTECT the mafia. Why would he try and extinguish the conversation about it so early in the game? It was to protect his own backside and protect the flavour of the game from becoming known which was Inception Mafia.
Now toDay some very interesting things have happened in which Rockin comes into toDay not caring about any of the night actions that happened to anyone and does not do a thing to try and discuss what should happen or anything, but INSTEAD he tries to get me lynched as fast as possible. Why? He was under a time-limit. I had been silenced and he knew this. Therefore, I had to be lynched as quickly as possible and he was hoping to get everyone on board but Ranmaru/Swords were not gonna have any of it. Vocal was because honestly he is just skating by with his claim to endgame and doesn't care either way. Rockin tried to get me lynched ASAP. He even said, "Let's lynch J, there's no point to letting this day continue as long as I can." When I came into the game saying that I had been silenced he said "Is everyone, honestly gonna believe him?" Which shows that he automatically tries to discredit something to get me lynched faster again.
Rockin this entire game has done absolutely NO scum-hunting whatsoever besides tunneling KY/J over something as trivial as PRs. He even suggested that his PR is so town-like to say that Watcher is NEVER EVER a mafia role. Why would he automatically shut down all talk surrounding his PR but when the fact of the matter is.....that is his entire reasoning for finding me scummy. He has not presented anything as to why I am scum besides the weak presence of "I feel J is scum." or his vague acclamation of "What J has done is scummy." which is a point to bring up since he never stated what actions.
A point I wanna bring up, what is the reasoning behind I am scum from anyone who thinks I am scum? The only reason that Rockin has brainwashed people into voting me is because of simple process of elimination. That's it.
Personally it's obvious that Rockin is scum but it is my job to convince you guys that it is Rockin and I hope to have done so with this case.
Rockin has had very little and a weird relationship with the scum-team, tried to discredit claims, not do any scum-hunting, has tried to get me quick-lynched today not once but twice, and that he is the only remaining choice as mafia.
Unvote
Vote: Rockin
For emphasis that he needs to go now.
Kay there is one main point I would like to point out in this little post here that is probably gonna take a while to write and quite some time to read but meh it's what I have to do or this game will be lost.
- Point out why exactly Rockin is scum
Let's go back ALL the way to D1? Sounds like a long time ago because it has already been two months since then and we are finally reaching a closing point here. However Rockin has done something he has done to me to what he has done to someone else and has tried to get away with doing it to me.
Does anyone remember someone named Kirbyoshi?
Yep, alright Rockin was the first to call out Kirbyoshi lieing about his role claim and continued to push his lynch and actually got him lynched D5(?). Rockin was shouting to all hills that KY was lieing and that he was not a town role and that he would risk his life on that but guess what? He lied there and never threw himself up for a lynch like he said he would if KY did flip town. Rockin NEVER stated why KY was scum but it was by the fact of his claim that made him scum and that it was so super obvious a role like his would be anti-town and not a town role. Now we are back to present day where we are facing the same situation where Rockin does not comment on how scummy I am but instead discredits my claim like crazy. He has continuously stated that I am scum because of MY ROLE, NOT for my scummy actions, NOT for my interactions, but because of my role. He has never stated why someone is scum, has hopped onto every wagon there was in this game and talked as little as he could unless he thought he could get away with an easy lynch. Where has Rockin given a scum-list and said that someone was town/scum? Most of his reads this entire game have been nulls. However the only two reads he was sold on was his reads on KY/J because he disbelieved their claims and therefore should die. Why? Where has he scum-hunted unless it is served on a silver platter and easy to discredit.
Rockin has had some interesting interactions this game. Let's see, kuzi pointed out on D2 after X1's scum-flip that Rockin had a literaly TWO posts that connected him to X1-12. As it is well-known, when X1-12 is mafia he tends not to talk to his scum-mates and even can be said to Tandora as he did not have many connections as well to him. However, you probably think all I have is meta on Rockin-X1-12 relationship? *Tsk* You should know me better. Kay, Rockin-X1-12 had a sort-of weird relationship but what was for certain was that neither of the two found the other scummy. X1-12 iirc hopped on Rockin because Cello did but never fullly believed he was scum because he was ready to hop on with him. Rockin, however, thought of X1-12 as town and did not see the point of my execution.
Actually let's take a little side-step for a moment. Rockin has questioned my execution of X1-12 ever since he could try and paint me as scum. He has not stated WHY I would do such a thing to a scum-mate when I had not one but TWO options to what I could have done.
Yet no, I choose to eliminate a scum-buddy with supposed PR. Why? No one has explained why I would execute X1-12 without a damn good reason. However Rockin keeps jabbing at this and has been cracking away at this since he could and just tries to say, "Lol that role can go for both factions so therefore he must be scum." Which is a load of bull.
Rockin also came in at the end of D1 and was seen no where when X1-12 was catching heat and said that he would have preferred Teryble Doom~ be executed instead and said it was a waste of a Execution.
- I could have waited for a NL
- I could have just lynched Teryble Doom~
Yet no, I choose to eliminate a scum-buddy with supposed PR. Why? No one has explained why I would execute X1-12 without a damn good reason. However Rockin keeps jabbing at this and has been cracking away at this since he could and just tries to say, "Lol that role can go for both factions so therefore he must be scum." Which is a load of bull.
Rockin also came in at the end of D1 and was seen no where when X1-12 was catching heat and said that he would have preferred Teryble Doom~ be executed instead and said it was a waste of a Execution.
X1-12 and him had a very little connection but if you look at it, it consisted of buddying and finding each other town.
Rockin had another interesting relationship with Tandora. They also had a very consistent buddying pattern where they would both go inactive but when they posted they tried to mention each other and play up the other as town which was very interesting to watch, especially when Tandora hopped on to lynch Kirbyoshi with Rockin. She tried to play him up as town when she was alive and so did X1-12.
The relationship between this scum-team is weird because they all tried to play each other up as town and never really tried to throw suspicion in their direction. It worked because no one thought to connect these three.
Rockin has tried to get me lynched before all this nonsense began when he saw me visiting Swords during the night. He discredited my choice of whom I wanted to investigated with my one-shot cop ability and even said I HAD TO be scum since I visited him during the night even though nothing happened to Swords to state otherwise. He continued to tunnel the fact that it was inconcieveable that I was town.
Another side-note I would like to bring up, he quickhammered Delvro instead of waiting for people to comment more as to what had happened because he thought that was what everyone wanted which caused the entire dilemna of Vocal coming out as the indie. Why did he quick-hammer Delvro?
Let's jump back to the beginning of the game, during Rockin's introduction post, he said to discredit any and all flavour arguements because they were dumb and just something that Ronike would do. Why would he try and discredit the flavour of the game? Interesting tidbit indeed since the flavour is there to PROTECT the mafia. Why would he try and extinguish the conversation about it so early in the game? It was to protect his own backside and protect the flavour of the game from becoming known which was Inception Mafia.
Now toDay some very interesting things have happened in which Rockin comes into toDay not caring about any of the night actions that happened to anyone and does not do a thing to try and discuss what should happen or anything, but INSTEAD he tries to get me lynched as fast as possible. Why? He was under a time-limit. I had been silenced and he knew this. Therefore, I had to be lynched as quickly as possible and he was hoping to get everyone on board but Ranmaru/Swords were not gonna have any of it. Vocal was because honestly he is just skating by with his claim to endgame and doesn't care either way. Rockin tried to get me lynched ASAP. He even said, "Let's lynch J, there's no point to letting this day continue as long as I can." When I came into the game saying that I had been silenced he said "Is everyone, honestly gonna believe him?" Which shows that he automatically tries to discredit something to get me lynched faster again.
Rockin this entire game has done absolutely NO scum-hunting whatsoever besides tunneling KY/J over something as trivial as PRs. He even suggested that his PR is so town-like to say that Watcher is NEVER EVER a mafia role. Why would he automatically shut down all talk surrounding his PR but when the fact of the matter is.....that is his entire reasoning for finding me scummy. He has not presented anything as to why I am scum besides the weak presence of "I feel J is scum." or his vague acclamation of "What J has done is scummy." which is a point to bring up since he never stated what actions.
A point I wanna bring up, what is the reasoning behind I am scum from anyone who thinks I am scum? The only reason that Rockin has brainwashed people into voting me is because of simple process of elimination. That's it.
Personally it's obvious that Rockin is scum but it is my job to convince you guys that it is Rockin and I hope to have done so with this case.
Rockin has had very little and a weird relationship with the scum-team, tried to discredit claims, not do any scum-hunting, has tried to get me quick-lynched today not once but twice, and that he is the only remaining choice as mafia.
Unvote
Vote: Rockin
For emphasis that he needs to go now.
#HBC | Dancer
The nicest of the damned.
Hm
K a lot of that is incorrect J but whatever. For example, I def remember Rockin pushing you for pushing ran.
Anyways, I gotta reread.
K a lot of that is incorrect J but whatever. For example, I def remember Rockin pushing you for pushing ran.
Anyways, I gotta reread.