Inception mafia: Town and Indy Joint Win!

[ranmaru]

Kk. Will do.

 

[Delvro]

All Vanilla townies, don't forget to do absolutely nothing tonight.

 

[#HBC | J]

*facepalm*

 

[Delvro]

I love you too

 

[th3kuzinator]

No sense of humor, J has no sense of humor.

Bad J.

 

[#HBC | J]

Wow that's the first time someone has told me I don't have emotion towards something in a mafia game.

*new style is succeeding*

 

[Ronike]

Aight, I had a really good idea for flavor, but now I don't have the time to implement it, so you get this for flavor.

Cobb (Dark Horse), townie, has been lynched.

Get your night actions in by midnight of tuesday, the 8th.

 

[Ronike]

The night was eventful

Morpheus (Kuz), Vanilla Townie, has been killed.

Sworddancer walks among you once more.

Day 6 begins.

Vote Count (5/8 to lynch):
Sworddancer [0]:
Ranmaru [0]:
Kirbyoshi [0]:
Delvro [0]:
Nabe [0]:
J [0]:
-Vocal- [0]:
Rockin [0]:

Not Voting: Nabe, Rockin, Ranmaru, Sworddancer, Kirbyoshi, -Vocal-, J, Delvro,

Deadline is Febuary 19th at midnight.

 

[#HBC | J]

Huh Kuz is dead but we get Swords back....I have never heard of a role that ressurects someone before.

Swords tell us how ur alive if you know.

Rockin/Ran, report.

Vote: Kirbyoshi

 

[ranmaru]

I went against the plan. I protected you, J.

Also, I don't want to go in the direction of Kirb this time.

Vote: Delvro

@ALL: Who would you think is scum if Kirb wasn't?

I was wrong about Kuz. I admit that.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Yo, what's up people?

So basically, after I died, I was given a qt. The opening post of the qt told me that I was on a beach, and that I have been there for several thousand days. So basically, I was in limbo (ait wasn't called limbo, but I'm pretty sure it was limbo). Also in limbo with me was Evil Eye (no idea why he was there) and Tom. EE just made a couple of joke posts before abandoning the topic. Tom didn't say anything, and I just joshed around in the qt at first myself. However, once DH was revived, it was releved to him that he was actually the one-shot reviver, and he could only use the power that Night. Since Tom was completly inactive, we decided it would be best to revive me. So yeah, here I am.

Also, before you ask; No I cannot commuciate with the people in limbo or see what they are saying anymore. The mod told me that I'm not allowed this.

 

[ranmaru]

Interesting. Welcome back, Sword. : D So, now we know Kuz was not scum. So, my early read was wrong.

Do you feel we should lynch Kirb now?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Btw who did Nabe and Delvo replace?

vote Kirbyoshi

@Ran: Do NOT go against the plan. We can literally just keep lynching people as long as we have two cleared townies like you and Rockin. The path we are going down should guarantee us the win if you are really the doc.

 

[ranmaru]

EBWOP:

I don't want to lynch him. It seems it was DH, Kirb, Kuz. Now two were townie. Although I think it will be hard to find one scum instead of 2 or 3.

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah, I know. It's just scum wouldn't kill him since I was supposed to protect Rockin. It was a risky move, but Scum wouldn't want to risk being blocked.

But yes, I am sorry. I won't do it again. I failed in protecting correctly.

 

[-Vocal-]

One-shot reviver, how about that. Cool role, glad to have you back Swords.

vote: KirbYoshi

Delvro replaced Cello and Nabe replace Teryble Doom, iirc.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

If Kirbyoshi was to flip town, who would we lynch first, Nabe or Delvo?

Btw when someone puts Kirbyoshi at L_1 don't hammering him. We might as well test his claim. If he really is the last mafia then he's going to be forced to not self-hammer.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Ran is very likely town at this point. Copping J rather than Rockin and rather than Kuz is consistent with townRan, and matches his stances in-thread 100%.

Swords, you were NKed, right? The Night before last? Can you remind us what your flip was?

Vote: Kirbyoshi
Kirbs, who's scum?

 

[ranmaru]

Actually, I didn't cop. ( i'm not the cop )

I assume you meant docced.

Also, before I was asked why I picked vocal over J, because I had some suspicions of him.

But, I picked him this time because I was thinking who was the most pro-town to me? I'm sorry Kuz. ;-;

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Vote: Kirbyoshi

Look at Delv and Nabe. One of them is scum. I was right on the other 2 scum, now I'm giving you a list of 2 to pick one out of. Lynch one of them toMorrow.

 

[Rockin]

UGH

did we just quick lynched Kirbyoshi?

OY....

well, w/e. I doubt he'll come up town.

Also, nothing yet.

 

[ranmaru]

Yeah. ;-; Sadly. Who would you want Lynched, Rockin?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

@Nabe:

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12112110&postcount=1620

Okay guys, no quick lynching toMarrow. Since Kirbyoshi ended up being legit (at least it looks like it right now) we're going to have to have a serious discussion toMarrow over who to lynch from Nabe and Delvo, since the last scum seems to be from them. If we mislynch toMarrow, we're be in MYLO, and honestly I don't just want to relay on the "lynch all vanilla townies until we're down to three" stratagy. I think it would work, yes, but I want to play it a bit safer than that tbh.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

@Kirbyoshi: Who would you pick out of those two to be lynched toMarrow?

Same question to everyone, actually.

 

[Rockin]

Yeah. ;-; Sadly. Who would you want Lynched, Rockin?

I wanted to lynch Kirbyoshi, no lie

But I wanted to at least make the day out of what happen and talk about other possible people as well.

 

[#HBC | J]

Nabe>Delvro>Vocal for me.

We have 3 mod-comfirmed townies so this game cannot get any easier. (J, Rockin, and Swords) So we have the remaining four left in which one of them are the last mafia member.

Ran, although flattered by the protect, do NOT DEVIATE from the plan. We need to keep you two alive for as long as we can together because then we have an awesome protection block in which two people are safe no matter what.

Again, I know this must be dreadfully boring but Ran protect Rockin and Rockin watch Ran.

toMorrow we lynch out of Delvro/Nabe/Vocal.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

J, that was the exact list I was going to post: Nabe>Delv>Vokester. If one of the first two isn't scum, you can...erm...quicklynch me D1 in the next game I'm in.

Also, Sworddancer., please don't say toMarrow. It makes me think of how much I want to crush the bones of the people who didn't believe my claim.

 

[Ronike]

Vote Count (5/8 to lynch):
Sworddancer [0]:
Ranmaru [0]:
Kirbyoshi [5]:J, Sworddancer, -Vocal-, Nabe, Kirbyoshi,
Delvro [1]: Ranmaru,
Nabe [0]:
J [0]:
-Vocal- [0]:
Rockin [0]:

Not Voting: Rockin, Delvro,

The game has entered twilight. Kirbyoshi will be lynched as soon as I have a chance, which is likely to be tomorrow after work.

 

[-Vocal-]

I gotta work on my scum senses I agree with the lynching Nabe before Delvro (and myself last, of course); judging by both their actions since replacing in and the actions of the people they replaced for, I feel like Delvro's slot has a lesser chance of being scum.

 

[-Vocal-]

I'm also going to do a bit of ISO when I get the chance (sometime before ToMorrow begins) just to be sure of this, but I don't see that read changing. Going to pay close attention to those who put pressure on KY early on

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

'kay.
Assuming a town flip and an NK, 6 players left toMorrow. My lynch and NK puts us at 4 the Day after that, assuming we're not completely wrong about mafia's numbers. Remember that there may be an indy, meaning the goal in 4-mylo is to lynch mafia.

Finding our claim list, one sec.

 

[#HBC | J]

Nabe,

You or Delvro or Vocal first?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@Mod, is DH's flip supposed to be just "townie"? Is that accurate?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

A big juicy flavour catch-up and me rambling in general

The people who have flipped:
X1-12 - Eames - Mafia Watcher Tricker lynched D3
Tandora - Ariadne - Mafia Goon modkilled D4
Tom - Katsumoto - VT lynched D4
Sworddancer - V - VT died N4
Kuz - Morpheus - VT died N5
Dark Horse - Cobb - VT lynched D5 (and Limbo Reviver?)
Kirbyoshi - Obi-Wan Kenobi - Suicidal VT lynched D6

I'm assuming Kirbs flips town, since this whole spiel won't be necessary if he's mafia.

And for the sake of it, let's also include:
EE - Rod Green - VT "lynched D1"
Sold2 - Superman - BPT "lynched D2"

And the sample roles!
Scott Pilgrim - Self-Reviving RB
Leonard (Memento) - VT

Still alive:
Sworddancer - V - VT
Ranmaru - Griffin - Doctor
Delvro - Harry Potter - (Did he claim VT?)
Nabe - Jack Sparrow - VT
J - Leonidas - One-Shot Executioner
Vocal - Tony Stark - VT
Rockin - Batman - Watcher

Rockin, what iteration of Batman are you? Don't get me wrong, but I'd bet you're the recent Batman, right?
i.e. Christopher Nolan's Batman.


I wondered why three arbitrary players had been in limbo: EE, Tom, and Swords. What's the connection? Why are they there? Did someone's role put them there, or is there another reason? A different list occurred to me.

X1-12 - Tom Hardy
Tandora - Ellen Page
Tom - Ken Watanabe
Kuz - Lawrence Fishburne
Dark Horse - Leonardo DiCaprio
Kirbyoshi - Sir Alec Guinness
Sworddancer - Hugo Weaving
Ranmaru - Jamie Bell
Delvro - Daniel Radcliffe
Nabe - Johnny Depp
J - Gerard Butler
Vocal - Robert Downey Jr.
Rockin - Christian Bale

A great cast. Now, a couple things pop out at me, but the first one is obvious.
Tom - Ken Watanabe

Spoiler

Before anything else, what does that tell us about the game? Well, who have we seen from Inception so far? Leonardo DiCaprio, Ellen Page, Tom Hardy, Ken Watanabe.

Of the main cast, that leaves Arthur/Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Robert Fischer/Cillian Murphy, and Yusuf/Dileep Rao. Yusuf was rather unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and Cillian Murphy wasn't working with the other main characters per se. So our last mafioso is Arthur -- which we knew to be likely, but is really all but confirmed on closer inspection. Can there be two mafia? Possibly, but it's very unlikely given the flavour choices available to us.


So, back to Swords and his resurrection. Several curious things here. Why was he there? Why were EE and Tom there? We all wrote off EE and Sold as having nothing to do with this game and just being cool flavour. But EE actually participated, in a QT. The first townie to die in the game was Tom. Then Swords, and finally DH. But why was EE there?

EE is what really interested me. So I took to Google, and here's what I found. A quote, from Inception. It's from the Mr. Charles scene -- when Cobb first introduces himself to Fischer.

"Pleasure to see you again. Rod Green from marketing."

Teehee.
What is the sense we're suddenly getting? What else can we glean?

Leonard from Memento is a sample role. Memento is a Christopher Nolan movie.
Superman -> Nolan is producing the latest Superman movie.
Ronike is a big Christopher Nolan fan. Not really relevant.


What do we know?

• J is not mafia, and very likely town.
• If Ran is town, then Vocal is town. You'll recall that Ran protected Vocal on N3, and that there was no NK that Night. Chance of the scumteam not killing on the Night after one of them was lynched is 0. So unless there's another explanation for there being no kill, Ran is town and Vocal is as well.
• Swords is town. Some of you may think that this goes without saying, but we weren't given any assurance from the mod that he has the same role that he did before. And he was on a beach from Inception, surrounded by people from Inception. But he's town because his explanation makes a ton of sense. Cobb as limbo reviver makes sense, and DH would obviously not have picked Tom. His story checks out 100%, no doubt.
• X1 flipped Watcher Tricker. We can reasonably expect a Watcher to be in this game, but the existence of one is not guaranteed. Watcher Tricker's existence could be a mod ruse, and it bugs me that Rockin's role is from a Nolan movie. But let's keep things simple.

FMPOV, Delvro should be lynched, followed by Rockin if Delvro weren't mafia. I understand that's not viable for most people though. My lynch followed by Delvro's is satisfactory. If Delvro flips mafia, we should have three players left. If the game still continues at that point, there must be an indy, so please lynch Rockin. Watcher is suggested to exist but is not confirmed, and Batman could be a fakeclaim for Scarecrow i.e. Cillian Murphy.

tl;dr lynch me, then Delv. GG.

 

[Ronike]

DONT EDIT!!! 2 Prod points for you, Nabe.

OOC: Nolan is producing the next super man? 0_0

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Mm, my bad, I need proper formating 150% of the time.

@Mod: is DH's flip accurate? Should it say "vanilla townie"?

 

[-Vocal-]

Interesting analysis Nabe, though I don't think the flavor rolls that deep. About the list, I'm pretty sure those are the townies killed, look here for confirmation.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Nabe, that was the longest useless post I have ever seen. For brevity and clarity's sakes, I will address holes one at a time, in the order they are in my mind (probably in order of obviousness):

If the fact that Tom is a WataNabe character, is significant to flavor, wouldn't it make more sense to make DH, say, DiCaprio's character from Titanic? Or Shutter Island? He didn't flip miller, so it's pretty obvious he's Cobb, the One-Shot Resurrector, not Leo DiCaprio, who could play Cobb. I'll await your response to that.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I'll reiterate a bit and see if that satisfies you?

Tom being a Ken Watanabe character means that Saito from Inception is very likely not a character in this game, and therefore ineligible to be one of the mafia. And Saito gained a deep relationship with Cobb over the course of the movie; he wouldn't be on an opposite side from him if he were in our game anyway (and he's not).

As for Cobb, I agree that he was the One-Shot Resurrector. Again, as I stated, that makes sense based on what happened in the movie.

I would imagine that the existence of both these characters in the game, particularly Cobb, was to throw town off the scent and look for actors/characters that looked like mafia fakeclaims. The whole game is built to make us see that we're playing Inception Mafia. Rod Green, the anagrams of Inception, Cobb and the mafia members. For that matter, Cobb being who he is facilitates his death and therefore the use of his ability, because we would naturally lynch someone who claimed the main character from Inception.

 

[Delvro]

Wowwwwww I really don't want to lynch Nabe. And Vocal must be town because of Ranmaru's doc protect.....

Are we ABSOLUTELY, 100% sure J isn't mafia? I know it's crazy, but I simply can't accept Nabe and Vocal as mafia, and I know I'm not mafia.

I must admit I've gotten nothing but town reads from J... but I've also gotten mainly town reads from Tryble/Nabe.

I suppose as long as Ranmaru protects Rockin and Rockin watches Ranmaru, we're guaranteed to have 2 townies alive (or else Rockin sees who kills Ranmaru) and it doesn't matter much? I dunno.