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Inception mafia: Town and Indy Joint Win!

Ronike

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Vote Count (5/9 to lynch):
th3kuzinator [0]:
Ranmaru [0]:
Kirbyoshi [0]:
Delvro [0]:
Nabe [0]:
Dark Horse [0]: th3kuzinator, Kirbyoshi, -Vocal-, J, Delvro,
J [0]:
-Vocal- [0]:
Rockin [0]:

Not Voting: Nabe, Dark Horse, Rockin, Ranmaru

It is now twilight UNTIL MIDNIGHT. Preferably ten. I don't want to have to worry about this game tomorrow.
 

th3kuzinator

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You're dumb or scum.

kuz, why did you feel the need to post that rule? Pretty sure we all read it in our PMs.
Since I forgot about it, I thought I would post it again. Its pretty standard practice to say one final go town/scum post. Came across it in my re-read of the milestone thread.

Also kuz, why did you feel the need to reiterate that this was Inception Mafia, like 2 Days after we figured it out?
No one had bothered to decipher the flavor word scrambles that Ronike presented us with. It was an interesting addition so I pointed it out because no other discussion was happening.

kuz, why post so much fluff? You've been playing well so far, so why, when you come back from your "silence," are you fluffing so much?
I don't know if you're a jester or are just dumb, but are you serious with this post? You're the one thats been phoning in content all game, commenting on unimportant aspects (like your above post), and fluffing pretty hard. Also, you were just calling my play terrible one Day before. Now, all of a sudden, I was playing so well until I started "fluffing" in twilight when no one else was talking, not even the person who was lynched. What caused this change in your view of my playstyle? From your PoV I should have just been playing terrible the entire game, this being no exception.

Anakin/Vader is the only one in the Star Wars series with ability to force choke. Why would Anakin disguise himself as Obi-Wan (in the context of a Mafia game, a mod-given fakeclaim)? If there is truly a Silencer, I don't believe it would be Anakin/Darth Vader, due to the belief that I still hold that, unless there are unclaimed Masons (unlikely), there is only one Town member per movie (or movie series).
OR, you're Darth Vader, the indy silencer, and Obi Wan is your fake claim. Wow, that was hard. If Dark Horse pops mafia and the game is still going, you're so dead.

Why has no one considered that kuz could be the Indy? Perhaps Warlock?
Yeah, why hasn't anyone considered this? Maybe its because I am actually playing pro-town. Maybe its because I am not worried to be the loudest of the group because I am not afraid of getting NKd. Maybe its because I, myself, was silenced by a probable indy PR and came out with this information. Yeah, thats why.

And before you even try to spit the disgusting WIFOM that I was lying about being silenced, consider this. We were all on board to lynch DH, and then you tomorrow, most likely. Why would I want to cause confusion now and deter us from that course of action if I was scum? Plus the silencer is either you or -vocal- and I am guessing it is you.
 

th3kuzinator

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Absolutely zero idea.

I just have this confident feeling, regarding the way Dark Horse has not said anything about being lynched, that he will flip scum. If he does, and he does not flip silencer, and the game does not end, its probably kirbyoshi.

That is, if there isn't a role I have never heard of that can stop people from talking in thread for 24 hours. First time I have run into something like this personally \(o_o)/

You're right in thinking an indy silencer is kind of week, assuming thats all he has. I was thinking that it may be only one of his active abilities or that we are dealing with a JoaT that has that power one of the Days.
 

#HBC | J

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What is the possibility that Harry Potter could be a silencer and it's a spell?

IMO, Silencer is either the mafia's last PR or it's a town PR. Not seeing indy silencer. What would be it's wincon? Would you say it would be like a piper? If so, why is the person notified like you were.
 

th3kuzinator

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Why would that town PR silence me? I doubt its town.

It could be one of like 3 actives abilities of an indy. Silencer is usually a mafia PR, though, and we will confirm this once DH flips.

Who knows maybe he is the silencer *shrug*

Doubt its delvro
 

th3kuzinator

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errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

does not compute

let me tell you who its definitely not.

Me
J
Ranmaru
Nabe
Rockin

which leaves what?

Delvro
Vocal

Yeah one of those two, I suppose.
 

th3kuzinator

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Pretend I claimed sane cop and told you nabe was inno.
Ranmaru has not been CCd and no Jailer has claimed (they would out him if they existed)
Rockin is so legit, its not even funny. If we specifically have a tricker of watchers, and only one watcher claim, hes so legit.
J, you executed X1 and he flipped mafia, nuff said.
And I'm town.

Which leaves

Vocal
Delvro

I dont believe either are scum, but in the offffffffff chance that kirbyoshi and DH are not, then it has to be one of them

Why its probably not vocal?

Vocal said he was going to tunnel Tandora D2, as he said in the post right before Night, and Tandora was probably the most experienced scum left alive N1 (x1 executed d1) therefore she tried to make life easier for herself and NK'd Vocal. Ranmaru said he protected Vocal and there was no NK. There was a NK the following Night. Therefore Ranmaru protected well. You could say Ran/Vocal team, but there is only one scum left so we can discard that.

My reasoning for why delvro is not scum is weaker.

He has been playing brownie townie. Done. Some stuff with Cello opposing X1 and playing like town cello etc. but really, it boils down to him being town.

I would honestly be SHOCKED if it was anyone else besides KY or DH. We will cross that bridge when we come to it, whether I am alive or not. If not, take my above reads as fact.
 

Delvro

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Agreed. I personally think Silencer is mafia, not indy. For one, this is inception mafia. Why would we need to lynch a Jedi or Harry Potter to win?

Secondly, if there is an indy, he probably has a safe claim of some sort.
 

#HBC | J

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Delvro, talk about Nabe. If it comes down to it, it might be you or him. What do you think about this situation.

Same question to you that is located in my 1687.
 

th3kuzinator

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Obv. We will see what DH flips anyhow.

What are the chances that Ronike gave Ranmaru a doctor fake claim?

It happened in DBZ.
 

-Vocal-

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Question: does a game even bother going into twilight if the last mafia has been lynched? It would seem quite odd to me, meaning that DH is probably going flip town, unfortunately.
 

th3kuzinator

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It does regardless (though its often shortened). DH is not flipping town. We probably have an indy, anyway.

Vocal. talk about delvro.
 

th3kuzinator

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Oh and I rememberd why I thought Ranmaru was town. Its cuz he is.

This makes me think that vocal is even more legit.

DH and KY are pretty much cornered. Good work town, imo.
 

th3kuzinator

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Reason being is that 10 vs 3 is okay if scum have good PRs and, since a goon already flipped, I think that would be a bit too anti-scum.

An indy somewhat makes sense.

Oh and if I die toNight, kill KY tomorrow. Thanks.
 

th3kuzinator

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Okay then. What else is there to talk about? We know that the game is not over because Ronike said he did not want to deal with this game tomorrow. However, I am fairly certain that DH is scum because he completely gave up after we lynched him.

If he flips non-silencer --> lynch kirbyoshi
If he flips silencer --> probably still lynch KY.

If he flips mafia, though, all those people I cleared are viable again because I cleared most of them off of interactions with the mafia.

Ill break it down further for yall.

If DH flips indy --> lynch Kirbyoshi
If DH flips mafia --> it could be Kirbyoshi, Nabe, Delvro, Vocal

I'm sure you will all figure it out when the time comes, but the vanillas are the people we have to worry about if DH flips mafia.

Also, if any of the vanillas try to claim anything different once i'm dead, lynch em.
 

th3kuzinator

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In the amount of time it would take to convince you Nabe is not mafia, the world might collapse.

Just take it as fact. Nabe is not mafia. He may or may not be indy, probably town.
 

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K, will protect rockin.

My opinion, is that DH may not entirely be scum... Because everyone seems to be ok with his lynch.

Although, I wouldn't really care if he went or not. But, he seems to be the easy way.

I think we should try to think of Cello's actions and compare them with Delvros. If it were between vocal or delvro, I'd choose Delvro, but only because of Cello.

I agree with Kuz that Delvro might be playing brownie townie. I still don't entirely get that, but I don't understand why some people were thinking I was obv scum and some like del (and sword tho) didn't think that.
 

th3kuzinator

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He did, nothing.

With the Sword kill and me being silenced, I am not surprised.

Nabe, anything to say about the silencing subject?
 

th3kuzinator

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1. No one is opposed to DH's lynch because he is obvobv scum. There is only one mafia left, so he would have no buddies to defend him anyway.

2. He probably will flip scum. I am surprisingly confident about that.

3. Delvro and Cello have been playing obvtown in my opinion.

4. People can have differing opinions about your alignment. Does not give us anything important unless you were obvobvscum, which you weren't.
 

#HBC | Nabe

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If there's a silencer, it'll be Kirbs. Take it from a Potter nerd, no flavour reason there (if it was a throat thing). The other movie flavours don't feel likely either; including Inception lol, where there was no one who did anything like that. Indy is likely and points to Kirbs.
 

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I honestly wouldn't know who to lynch for independant after Kirbs. It's probably Kirbs. I'm not going to scare myself into thinking one of you is anti-town until I have to.
 

th3kuzinator

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By having Ran target Rockin and vice a versa we have essentially stunted both their PR use.

You guys should target who you want to toNight, don't tell us and maybe we can trick the mafia into killing someone less important to be safe.

IMO, you shoudl target whoever you want at this point, no use keeping the PRs alive just to stunt them and give mafia a 100% chance of a successful nightkill.

Food for thought.
 

#HBC | J

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No, bad idea is bad.

Although it helps mafia with their NK choice it also keeps our only two claimed PRs protected together for as long as we can.
 

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But if we stunt both of them then its the same thing as having two vts. While everyone else dies around them, they dont get results and are thus are useless.
 

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Kuzi what does this scenario look like?

LYLO 3 people

Especially if Rockin/Ran are both still alive?
 

th3kuzinator

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If there is no indy I am fine with this plan, I am just afraid of a non-killing indy role.

I retract what I said though, protect each other toNight, I guess. If Dark Horse flips mafia and the game is still going, re-evaluate that. If he flips indy keep doing it.
 

th3kuzinator

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Its so convenient only having one mafia member left. I completely forgot that we still have like 3 more mislynches.
 
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