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Inception mafia: Town and Indy Joint Win!

#HBC | J

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No way in ****ing hell bro. Not since the last time you told me that.

Seriously I'm gonna say what I want but the fact of a lyncher is a bunch of bull. I mean why did someone decide to make a random post introducing the concept there might even be a lyncher to cause WIFOM regarding each lynch and in the end all it is is anti-town behaviour and ultimately distracts from scumhunting to instea hunting for something WE HAVE NO PROOF OF.

It's a wild goose hunt and I'm not gonna just sit back and entertain an idea that holds no air.
 

th3kuzinator

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Even if DH is the lyncher, Tom is not the target. If he exposes himself by actually hammering Tom, then we get tomorrow. Since you have come this far on the basis of trusting me, please put that vote back.

Lynchers are not prohibited in the rules and Ronike's games are known to be particularly swingy. If people gave Tanny's Jester claim the light of day, disregarding the possibility of a lyncher is stupid. Maybe thats just J and Rockin though.

Vocal, character claim when you see this.
 

#HBC | Dancer

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No way in ****ing hell bro. Not since the last time you told me that.

Seriously I'm gonna say what I want but the fact of a lyncher is a bunch of bull. I mean why did someone decide to make a random post introducing the concept there might even be a lyncher to cause WIFOM regarding each lynch and in the end all it is is anti-town behaviour and ultimately distracts from scumhunting to instea hunting for something WE HAVE NO PROOF OF.

It's a wild goose hunt and I'm not gonna just sit back and entertain an idea that holds no ai
Check X1's flip bro. It saids that "his disguise has fallen" and for awhile it showed his flip of indy lyncher. He has the PR of a "tricker," one who disguises themselves as someone else in the game. It's very likely that X1 just so happened to disguise himself as the indy lyncher, withouth knowing that he was disguising himself as such a person.

To many unknown factors, I know, but please considerate it. The evidence seems to point to such a scenario.

I can't wait all day, so I'm going have to

vote Tom

TOM IS AT L_1. NO ONE HAMMER BUT DH!!!
 

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Pretty much what swords said.

I will fill in many of the blanks for us once I know that DH is legit and I know Vocal's character.
 

th3kuzinator

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Oh and DH, if I see you viewing the thread and then leave without voting tom, I am going to assume you're lying and we are going to lynch you toDay.

We still have five days to talk many things over, we need to prove you're legit asap.
 

Ronike

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I thought I made this clear, but apparently not. X1 flipping a lyncher was a joke as so many people were like "Grrr if X1 doesn't flip scum" & it fit flavor well. Boba Fett the indy lyncher was what X1 asked to flip as a joke when I asked him.
 

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Well then, I guess I do not have to make that lyncher case. Bah and everything made sense too.

Vocal, you still might as well tell us your character. Don't vote Tom.

We need to see if DH is legit, then we can either just hammer Tom or someone else can make a Kirbyoshi case.
 

#HBC | Dancer

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I thought I made this clear, but apparently not. X1 flipping a lyncher was a joke as so many people were like "Grrr if X1 doesn't flip scum" & it fit flavor well. Boba Fett the indy lyncher was what X1 asked to flip as a joke when I asked him.
Lol, I did not see this. :awesome:

That makes me able to rest easy.
 

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Check X1's flip bro. It saids that "his disguise has fallen" and for awhile it showed his flip of indy lyncher. He has the PR of a "tricker," one who disguises themselves as someone else in the game. It's very likely that X1 just so happened to disguise himself as the indy lyncher, withouth knowing that he was disguising himself as such a person.
Again, I am not confirming the absence of a lyncher, I am saying this ^^^ is incorrect
 

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Alright, I have FINALLY finished that massive catchup. Once again, I apologize for my absence; this week has been hell for me and it will be nice to finally have time to myself again.

So how bout that scum Tandora - http://z0r.de/1464 :awesome: Honestly I probably should have put more pressure on her Day One, but at least she has been nixed through other means. (Pretty unexpected, and god knows what the circumstances were, but hey, -1 scum is -1 scum.)

I am Tony Stark, Vanilla Townie.

This was just my post to let you guys know that I'm caught up. I'll be going through my huge multi-quote in a minute and hope to have it up within the hour.
 

#HBC | Dark Horse

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Unvote, Vote: Tom

We're in twilight now.

I lied. I am actually cobb from inception, vanilla townie, probably miller (obvious reason is obvious). I had realized that my claim would have gotten me autolynched, so I had fakeclaimed jake sully fro avatar. The disabled townie thing was a lie and was an adjustment to make my claim more believable
 

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If Tom doesn't flip mafia, then we lynch DH toMarrow.

Vig, if you're out there, then shoot DH (unless Tom does flip mafia).

Cop cop KY.

Rockin watch Ran. Ran protect Rockin.

Souns good?
 

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Sounds cool to me.

But anyone wanna tell me why Eames and Ariadne would turn on Cobb? Not saying it's impossible, but it seems unlikely. Just saying.
 

#HBC | Nabe

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People really need to stop giving Kirbs excuses to phone in content. Please.

Claim actually sounds very plausible. Main characters of Inception are Cobb/Ariadne, with Arthur and Eames secondary to that (but with Arthur above Eames in importance). So if DH is telling the truth, last mafia would be Arthur. Ron might've gone the route of Cobb/Ariadne/Eames for the sake of having a really good flavour reason for a tricker, but Arthur being in makes more sense, and we can discount a 4-man team obviously. So Arthur/Ariadne/Eames is very plausible.

DH, why did you decide to hammer Tom and then claim? Why not just admit to lying without the hammer? Either way, you're admitting the lie, but in one variant you're not ending the Day with a lynch of someone we know nothing about. Despite how plausible your claim sounds, your actions smack of an odd unthought-out self-preservation.
 

Ronike

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Sworddancer [0]:
th3kuzinator [1]: Ranmaru,
Ranmaru [0]:
Kirbyoshi [2]: Tandora, Rockin,
Cello_Marl [0]:
Tom [6]: th3kuzinator, Kirbyoshi, Nabe, J, Sworddancer., Dark Horse,
Teryble Doom~ [0]:
Dark Horse [1]: Delvro,
J [0]:
-Vocal- [0]:
Rockin [0]:

Not Voting: -Vocal-, Tom,

The game has reached twilight. Tom will be lynched in about 24 hours.
 

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Okay, time to show my reason of why Kirbyoshie should be lynched

He's Lying about his role.



Okay, first of all, anything with survivor related should be lynched no matter what.

2nd, that role is fake. Want proof? Check it here

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs22/f/2007/354/a/1/Mafia_Roles_by_mikeburnfire.swf

Suicidal Townie is a vig role and KILLS himself during N1. No if, ands, or buts. He's meant to live D1 and D1 only.

The only role in relation to that is the HATED townie, and he gets lynched a vote less then a normal townie (he is also pro-town). I highly doubt Obi-wan is hated that much (unless you're the bad guy) or that suicidal/emo.

So yeah, his role is fake and deserves to be lynched...like, now

Unvote Vote: Kirbyoshie
Shaky reasoning. Unless Ronike has a history of always 100% following set-in-stone roles exactly as they are commonly used, this is just making assumptions about role titles, of all things.
Read the first 10 out of 25 pages so far. Vocal and X1 and Tandora are reasonably scummy (winning scum strategy = agree with Cello a bunch, seen it a hundred times). Sir Bedevere doesn't exist, this worries me.

I'll finish reading tonight. I don't yet know who died last Night Phase. Hopefully one of those 4.
Why did you find me scummy? During my read through, I don't think I saw you mention the reasoning on me once; I'd be delighted to hear why I was so suspicious to you.
Does not even make reference to the vote I placed on him and simply skips over it to regress back to the flavor. Noobscum afraid to cross vote. At the time, I was L-5.'

[If I'm not mistaken, this was my first post in the thread. The game was still in RVS, so I didn't feel there was much significance to your vote. Secondly, I was (as I said) severely confused about what the flavor meant, which was a more pertinent matter to me.]

Also backing up Rockin'. He even says he is not trying to defend or buddy him. The fact that he included that last passage means he was aware of how his post might come off and wanted to make sure he was not viewed in that light. If he knew that, why not simply revise his post? Cuz it would lose the message of "stop picking on Rockin."

[I wanted to know why people were putting so much pressure on someone who was not there to feel pressured, so I inquired. I didn't tell them that Rockin was above suspicion or that I felt that Rockin was town, which would have been defending or buddying respectively.]

Would also like to note the Vocal skipped over the entire Cello/X1 vs Kuz thing at the start of the Day and only got interested when his boy Rockin came under fire.

[I was fine with the Cello/X1 interactions, didn't have anything to contribute to them, and decided to watch for the time being. However, Cello's aggression towards Rockin felt out of place, which is why I wanted more information.]

PERFECT scum buddy deflection. Is asked between Kirbyoshi or Rockin and throws out a tentative Kirbyoshi but then quickly says he would rather vote Cello than either of them. Major scum-vocal tell IMO.

[Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be a more accurate scum tell if I threw lynch support behind someone I had not posted any suspicions of previously? You are just trying to cast a scummy light on an action that does nothing more than state my accurate opinions.]

@Vocal, can you explain the first sentance?

[Yes I can. I had already stated that I disliked how quickly Cello was trying to end the day; I would need at least a few more days real time before I would jump on a wagon with him. Ending the first day too quickly is a big mistake in my book.]

Does this not set off a warning flag from ANYONE?! They had not argued once this entire game and suddenly, out of the blue, X1 tells everyone he has established a valid excuse for ignoring Vocal this entire game. I dont care about Majora's Mask johns, that simply Bull****

[I have posted the reasons why X1 and I had an unusual relationship with one another. If you and others would like to discuss this in more detail or make it a topic of discussion I will oblige, but otherwise I believe I have said enough about this.]

KIRBYOSHI DOES NOT EVEN RESPOND TO THAT WALL OF TEXT THAT CELLO RAISES AGAINST HIM, VOCAL HAS TO DO IT INSTEAD *facepalm*

Besides, the last three quotes that Vocal presents are the unimportant interactions Cello was talking about

1. "Is making you laugh a legitimate reason to back off" --> Self explanatory
2. Metaing the mod
3. Defending Rockin based on the fact that Rockin posted in a normal "catchup" playstyle, which we all know is BS because we should be able to assume the Rockin can make inferences for himself for his first post.

Kirbyoshi just rides this defense and just states that he agrees with Vocal.

Vocal and Kirbyoshi may be SvS, probably SvT.

Stepping back and taking a look, it seems to me that Vocal is kind of just flailing a case at Cello. TownVocal vs ScumKirbyoshi seems likely.

[Those were my opinions. It seemed to me that Cello was applying pressure for silly reasons that were not enough to base a lynch off of, and so I responded as such.]

Kirbyoshi tells vocal that Cello is not scum anymore and *poof* Vocal agrees. Still probably noobtown.

[I didn't like Cello's actions and felt that he was not working well at accomplishing town's goals, yet I did not feel like his actions were inherently scummy (just useless).]
Responses were implanted into the quote itself, as that was easier to type.
And J, how else are we going to go about clearing people? From their interactions with X1.

From that, Tery, Me, DH, You, Swords and Cello are town.

Ran and vocal have been playing well, tom is getting caught up.

leaves kirbyoshi, rockin and tando.

Am I opposed to my lynch? Absolutly not, but only if town can't see past J's case into why Rockin/Tando/Kirby are scum.
We already know that Tanny was scum. Rockin is leaning towards town at the moment. However, I haven't seen KY do anything that helps town, to be honest. I'm not trying to derail the current wagon on Tom as we will learn many valuable things from it, but KY just does not sit well with me.
Oh, that was your case on me? I shall check that in a second

And also, fine J. Since you seem to really want Kuz gone (can't blame ya much lol)

Unvote Vote: Kuz
WHOA, WUT? I don't like this one bit. He just BLINDLY moves his vote onto Kuz because J wants him gone? Bull****.

Furthermore, his "crumbs" for watcher are pretty weak. The first one is acceptable, but I don't think the second one qualifies as a crumb at all. Adding onto this, he tried to lynch KY based off of what he believed a role name SHOULD act like (first quote in this post). I still need to finish moving through the rest of this quote pile, but Rockin is not looking good to me.
this doesnt SCREAM weird to anyone????

holy freaking cow.
See above
J you made a case, an incorrect one, but I have no problem with it.

J: Tery vote someone.
Tery: Okay, vote kuz. It looks like you strongly believe Kuz is scum, so i will now too.
J: Thank you

Kirby: Your first sentence in your wall was about flavor? Wow you so scum despite me clearing you 10 minutes ago. I am not even using J's reasoning, but im getting on there anyway
J: Thank you

Rockin: Ill read Kuz's post against me now (not like I should have read it before), but ill buddy up to townJ and vote kuz because he seems to want him gone. obv buddying is obv
J: Thank you

Tanny: I don't know if I am right or wrong about the Jester comment, but who cares? All your evidence is circumstantial and, despite your case involving very little x1 meta, ill use it as my excuse to hammer you when you are at L-1.

J: Maybe I will actually try to defeat your case with logic, but only if you are at L-1 and claim. But for now, I feel attacking it incorrectly will suffice.

Sorry for being freaking blunt, but thats what just transpired.
Once again, we know Tan was scum. I'm getting a strong feeling that either KY or Rockin is the final scum that we are looking for.
Whoops, I wrote that badly... I meant to make that comment about x1 and not you. However it doesn't matter, since I realize x1 is dead.

Unfortunately, the temptation to read the last few pages was too much. I'm currently compiling a scum ratio for everyone and it's going to blow your minds away.

As for Rockin/Tandora/Kirbyoshi, I don't really know what made Rockin so scummy early game. I think people pushed on him too much for not posting and everyone got a Rockinscum mentality that's hard to shake off. Dunno though, I haven't seen a lot of his posts.

Tandora, however, is scummy. She plays like Advice Dog more than like Opinion Dog and I find that scum love to do this.


Kirbyoshi is a null for me, but I haven't seen his entire claim yet, although I know it's suicidal townie or something. I have no idea what that is. More definite opinions will come once I read the entire claim.
Like I said
I feel like up to this point she's kept from making actual connections to the game and more posts about mafia theory and mechanics and whatnot.
Couldn't have agreed more.
K whatever I was a little too assuming that I would be cleared. I would argue that doing that as scum would be stupid, but J will just tell me not to WIFOM.

Scum IS between

Ran
Vocal
Tom
Kirby
Rockin
Tanny

because everyone else is cleared in my mind

I would like to say Ran and vocal are town from playstyle (and tom needs to catch up) which leaves the other three, but if all of them go eventually I am satisfied. The latter three first preferably.
Ran is (what's that word...?) conditionally(?) town for now (not to mention I've never had problems with him), Tanny was modkilled and was mafia, and I'm town :) That leaves KY, Rockin, and Tom. Tom/Bed has been practically non-existant but their few posts leave no bad taste in my mouth. I am more and more convinced that scum is either KY or Rockin, and I'm leaning more towards Rockin than anything.

Also, I would just like to point out that I harped on Tandora HARD for not being more active and not making more connections to people. I even wanted to postpone the end of Day One specifically so that she could maybe post something of substance. Is this not enough to clear me as town?

Where's Vocal? Did anyone else notice the fact that the color of all the vote-counts and the front page hold Vocal's color? I wonder.
They're actually different shades of green. No connection there.
Tandora, Ariadne the mafia goon, has been modkilled.



The day continues
The death certainly caught me off guard, but I was pleasantly surprised to find that I had been right about Tanny.

Whoa. Also just thought about something else. Didn't Tandora protect Rockin? *goes to look*
Honestly, if I was Rockin' I'd be afraid to say anything any more. No matter what he says or how town he acts he gets lynched (in the two games I've been in with him of course)

Cello, don't you think tunneling someone is a bad idea? Why the hate?
Kuz quoted this as part of his wall of text I quoted above. While I was reading it I didn't thik much of it and therefore cut it out, but now I am leaning even more heavily towards Rockin being scum. On the subject of the aggression towards Rockin, I simply wanted to know people's reasons, but here is Tandora actually giving a defense for him and possibly a justification for future actions? I still need to finish this multi-quote, but I am 99% certain that I'm going to end it with a Rockin vote.

so now I can clear myself based on wanting to lynch both scum

derp.

So yeah Kirbyoshi is legit which leaves

Rockin
Vocal
Tom
Ranmaru

i say we go rockin imo
Ditto
Guys, I seriously know this game. It's not Cinemafia nor is it DBZ mafia.

I can't believe it but this flavour is so much cooler now.

It's Inception Mafia.

Ariadne was the main girl from the movie.
*high fives Ronike*

Cool flavor, bro.
Dark Horse is acting a little silly as well.

Rockin -

Vocal - Town
Dark Horse - Townie enough
Tom - Pratically non-existant but leaning town from the little content we have
Ranmaru - provisionally town
Hm. This guy is on a lot of lists, isn't he?
Nice point mafia D4.

A mafia that switches flavor each Day?

Started with DBZ, was something else d2 and now....

this flavor is so interesting
I thought it was a commentary on something someone said to him before reading the thread. 'Twas odd.
Not commenting on players who end up flipping scum practically at all in a game is pretty much just as good as having solid connections to them in the game, maybe even more so. It's a common strategy for scum mates often simply ignore their buddies. They simply weren't in your thoughts you say? Okay, maybe. However, you're main target was, and is, KY, correct? Well, thing is, going after that guy at this point is one of the easiest things you can do. Actually, I have to reread to see if this is true, but IIRC this ENTIRE GAME you've been going after some of the safest, easiest people that there is to go after.

^Gotta reread to confirm that, and will do so later.

@Nabe: In this order:

Rockin
Tom/Vocal
KY
Ran
Subtract me from that list and I agree. Actually, put KY above Tom, and that list is perfect.
Whoa whoa I'm looking for J's post and I get a pile of votes. I'll claim early as well.

I'm the doc. I protected Vocal. That is why I have been asking Kuz about Vocal and me. The end.
Oh, how nice. Explains the no-kill. Doesn't set off any alarms for me.
I feel as though Kirb is in it to Wagon though.
Possible. That's the reason why he's #2 on my lynch list.
Well I want to lynch Kuz over Kirb. Let's wait for the others.
That's a mistake. Kuz is town. You are (most likely) town. Put your vote on someone who deserves it - like Rockin.
Aparecium !

Vote: Kirbyoshi

Mass Roleclaims are so amazing.
Should read Rockin imo.
I don't understand that role. What does it do?
How didn't you read about it when we were talking before?
If you don't believe someone is scum, don't vote for him.

But listen to his role.

"If I ever get to L-1, my next post must be a vote for myself or I get modkilled/indy survivor"

That's KY's role. Problem is, it has a loophole. A big one.

If KY gets to L-1, all he has to do is NOT POST. Problem solved.

.....And that's why I don't believe KY's role.
He'd still be a townie, and thus wouldn't want to hurt town. I don't see why this makes his claim false. Still, I find him suspicious just due to his non-contribution-ness.
Guys, just so you all know, Rockin is not cleared. Watcher is just a rare enough role that scum could very well get away with fake claiming it.

Now, that said, it makes me feel better about Rockin, so I'm gonna have to

unvote
vote Tom
I said this earlier in my post, but I don't think you should have moved your vote. I am going to push for a Rockin lynch today. I will change if necessary to avoid a no-lynch, but I really believe that Rockin needs to die.
Yeah breadcrumbs from both claims would be beneficial...specially from Ran's.

Also I just thought this quote from X1 was interesting. Its what gave me some doubts about Rockin being mafia upon my second re-read.



That + claiming a PR makes me feel safe keeping Rockin alive for now. We can also get some info out of him. If ran Docs Rockin and Rockin watches Ran we can keep both alive for the time being.
Oh. But this makes me less sure :(

Would X1 take the risk of mentioning both his scum mates? *sigh* Maybe we should just go ahead with the current lynch as planned. I need opinions on this guys.

tbqh I was thinking about the idea for a bit and I have decided against it.

We already have a doc who can successfully protect one PR while he can watch the doc to see who NKs him. This will effectivly save Ranmaru and Rockin from certain death for quite awhile that is, if Rockin is actually a watcher. I still doubt scum rockin would have claimed watcher before everyone else (it would be too risky if someone CCd, scum would be done). I know scumRan would definitely not fake claim doc, because that would be 100% CCd.

I think we are on a fine plateau for D2 tbqh.

We have

Dark Horse
Tom
Kirbyoshi
Vocal

We lynch one of the top three and get the cop to get a result for the two remaining survivors (Until we hear from him, I want to say Vocal is town because of Ran protection and playstyle). If there are any BP townies, claim soon so we can either clear Vocal or add him back to the list. In two Days we will have eliminated or found out the alignment of everyone in that grouping which I feel is the last pot for scum.

So yeah, scratch that mass claim idea, cop just get a result from someone on that list (flip a coin if you have to) and we will probably pressure most of them toDay.

I would say everyone else is town until CCd or proven otherwise.

Thoughts? And yeah I think the first one we should pressure is Tom, since we know Kirbyoshi's claim and we have extremely little info from Tom. Vocal looks the towniest of the bunch and Dark Horse only looks scummy because he plays like Dark Horse.



And ^^^
I guess the weight's already on Tom. I would rather a KY lynch but for the purpose this will serve Tom will be ok. I still can't shake the feeling that Rockin is probably scum...I don't know after looking at that X1 quote :/
Vocal, tandora was scum and she got modkilled. You were right about her

before you leave vote Dark Horse
I read and was happy to discover that <3

On the other note, I would rather a Tom or Rockin lynch ToDay.
If Vocal faked 1415 then he's better than I'd give him credit for. Treating it as the super-town tell that it looks like. Keep rereading though.

Don't like 1422 one bit. Kirbs has been phoning in activity not just all Day, but all game.
'Twas genuine. I really didn't have time to read, which is the reason why I'm just now posting my catchup response.

I mirror your sentiments on KY; I don't think he's ever pushed solidly enough on anything. Still, I feel like others are scummier at this point.



So at the end of all this, I feel like Rockin made some extremely scummy plays but I'm shaken by X1's explicit mention of him (otherwise I'd lynch him in a heartbeat). What does everyone else think about this?

I suppose I don't need to place my vote anywhere, as Tom is already at L-1. Thank god I'm finally finished; it took me at least over 4 hours total to get back into this game @_@
 

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Ok, whoa. Tom is dead now :/

If Tom flips town, I don't even know what to think about Dark Horse. Throughout this whole game it felt like it was just ordinary Dark Horse being Dark Horse, really. The claim fits the flavor as well. We're really going to have to rely on night actions to give us direction for tomorrow.

I'm feelin like a Rockin lynch is in order tomorrow, depending on the results of tonights occurences.
 

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If we hit the last mafia member (and the game does not end), then everyone I cleared as town previously is back on the list pretty much. An indy wont care who it goes after, as long as he is not caught in the cross fire.

Thanks for the catch up post vocal, too bad Tom already died by the time you finished.

DH...:mad: However your claim does seem legit-ish. Too bad we are lynching you anyway if tom flips town.

In DBZ mafia there were three visiting town PRs (tracker, watcher, comparison cop) which was counteracted by the Tricker. Basically, the tricker (x1) could send in a person's name (kuz) at Night and town PRs would get back the following results if they visited X1.

- Cop: the alignment of Kuz is
- Tracker: Kuz visited
- Watcher: X was visited by Kuz

Despite them all seeing X1. Pretty powerful scum PR and I am glad we got him out of the way.

The point I am trying to make is, for there to be a mafia tricker, there are probably a decent number of town visiting PRs that get results back (doc is visiting but does not get back results). The only visiting role we have thus far claimed is a watcher. Although many of us have not claimed, I am inclined to believe Rockin's claim until we other visiting roles claim.

I am actually thinking that Tom may flip scum. Crossing my fingers.

Sworddancer. said:
If Tom doesn't flip mafia, then we lynch DH toMarrow.

Vig, if you're out there, then shoot DH (unless Tom does flip mafia).

Cop cop KY.

Rockin watch Ran. Ran protect Rockin.
This. I dont think we have to worry about corrupted night actions, either, because Tricker is already gone.

In DBZ, mafia had a Yak. If the Yak is kirbyoshi, he will yak toNight most likely. If tom is scum, then well...pretty kickass town. To say the least.
 

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ffs I tried to quote part of my post and hit the edit button by mistake.

stupid internet x_x

can a mod edit it back?
 

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I reverted Kuz's post for him by request from the Edit mistake. It was only like a small grammatical fix changing an S though or something.
 

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If I am not around to see tomorrow I suggest you guys mass claim. We need to see if there are more visiting roles so we can evaluate Rockin's claim.

If not, DH or kirbyoshi are the lynch candidates for tomorrow. Don't cop DH.

Cop Kirbyoshi/Rockin
 

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Whoa. I will protect Rockin. Rockin watch me, if you don't, die. : ]
 

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Honestly I wouldn't mind a Tom lynch. I didn't understand what Cello was trying to do. Plus, Cello didn't die. Why would obvtown not die during the night?

Heres the thing guys. We should be more careful of who we lynch because there is one scum left, right? : D

Sorry for my poor D2 play. Kuz is right, I am lucky because of my doc claim. I'll try to do better D3. : D I won't let my doc claim go in vein. (I mean, it won't be useless)
 

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Seriously, wut? Who do you think my target is? Out of the people who haven't claimed, because it wouldn't make sense for it to be a non-Star Wars character.
Why wouldn't it make sense? But without regards to that, I'd think I would be your target.
 

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gonna read but just pointing out

Delvro replaced Cello

Tom replaced Sir B

^that was at Ran.
Ohhhhhhh.... Damn. I don't actually like this... Sir B seemed townie to me... He would try to get me in the fray.. but that's about it. Inactivity. : [

Sorry got confused.
 

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Also, there was no Doctor in DBZ mafia, and it was a scum safe claim. However, there was a protective role, a Jailer.

If you are the jailer and you are reading this, I suggest you claim tomorrow and out Ranmaru.

@Town: if this happens, just dont take the jailer's word for it. Obviously quiz both of them and make an educated guess. However, if there is a jailer, one of Ran/Jailer will be the Play tomorrow. We can't afford to leave the wifom alone.
 

#HBC | J

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Btw what's the updated list of all the claims so that we know to double back and check to see if anyone changes their story?

I can do it but just give me some time.
 

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Sworddancer - V
X1-12 - Eames - Mafia Watcher Tricker
Kuz - Morpheus
Tandora - Ariadne - Mafia Goon
Ranmaru - Griffin - Doctor
Kirbyoshi - Obi Wan Kinobi - Suicidal Townie
Delvro - Harry Potter
Tom - ???
Nabe - Jack Sparrow - Vanilla
Dark Horse - Cobb - Vanilla (miller?)
J - Leonidus - One-Shot executioner
Vocal - Tony Stark - Vanilla
Rockin - Batman - Watcher

I did not realize so many of us had claimed x_x
 

#HBC | J

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Swords, you dodged and still have not answered why you decided to unvote Tom and you definetely knew you had been questioned on this by me and KY. Where is this answer?
 

#HBC | Dark Horse

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DH, why did you decide to hammer Tom and then claim? Why not just admit to lying without the hammer? Either way, you're admitting the lie, but in one variant you're not ending the Day with a lynch of someone we know nothing about. Despite how plausible your claim sounds, your actions smack of an odd unthought-out self-preservation.
Because if I didn't hammer, you guys would've probably lynch me quickly

It was an act of self-preservation. I know I'm town, so therefore I don't want to die

Also, did swords claim? I dint remember it and Kuz has him listed as "V"
 

#HBC | J

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Swords is V from V for Vendetta.

Self-preservation when you are a VT.......

*sigh*

So what if Tom flips a town PR? Was your selfish act worth it? You do know if Tom does flip town you are being lynched ASAP toMorrow correct?
 

#HBC | Dancer

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J I did not know you asked me such a question. I must of missed it.

I unvoted Tom out of paranoia. I was scared he might of been the lynchee (when I thought there was a lyncher in the game). I wanted to wait for DH so we could blitz him.

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Why is it that I sense so much salt inbetween some of the players here? I don't want us killing each other, now. :(
 

#HBC | J

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Salt?

Explain with whom you think has animosity towards some players.

Swords answer 1479 and 1480 if I have the numbers right. The posts by KY and I.
 

#HBC | Dancer

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Eh, you and Kuz mainly.

Again, I unvote because I wanted to see if DH would get on so we could blitz tom.

The idea would be for DH to post.

For me to quickly vote Tom.

Then for DH to quickly "hammer" Tom.

Then for me to unvote immediately.

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I was the one who brought up the possibility of there being a lyncher.
 
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