Inception mafia: Town and Indy Joint Win!

[#HBC | J]

Kuzi we have salt? That's funny.

Your reason for unvoting is....strange to say the least.

You still didn't answer what info you would benefit from what you were doing.

Why are you not answering the full question asked to you?

Also it was relevant to bring up that a lyncher did exist why?

 

[Delvro]

Because if I didn't hammer, you guys would've probably lynch me quickly

It was an act of self-preservation. I know I'm town, so therefore I don't want to die

Also, did swords claim? I dint remember it and Kuz has him listed as "V"

Complete and utter bull.

Have you ever heard of the phrase "Lynch all liars"? Yeah. You claimed that you couldn't hammer, waited until Tom was at L-1 just so that we could test your claim, then you said "I lied" and HAMMERED him!

I don't believe I've ever seen a move this anti-town in the entire history of games that I've played in. If you SOMEHOW turn out to be town, then that lie you made is about to cost us TWO mislynches, because there is no way that I am letting this slide.

Why did you even let us waste a bunch of time getting Tom get to L-1 anyway? Why didn't you just claim "I'm miller"? That's a HECK of a lot better than waiting until you hammer someone to say it. Sheesh.

Not to mention, you didn't say ANYTHING when everyone in the game discovered that this game is actually Inception mafia rather than Cinemafia. As a "miller" from inception, why wouldn't you add anything to that discovery and perhaps point out that not every Inception claim may be a mafia claim.

I'm still in shock from this move. Unbelievable.

 

[#HBC | J]

Delvro, calm yourself by talking about Swords/th3kuzi.

If one of them is scum, which is it and why?
Who are you looking at after Tom's flip?
Who are you looking at after DH's flip?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I didn't do it for info. Look, if Tom was someone elses lynchee, then I wouldn't want them coming in and hammering if they weren't all ready on Tom's wagon. So I thinking that I could try to test DH's claim out asap without any interference from a lyncher. I was just trying to be as safe as possible.

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If you had reason to think a lyncher existed, wouldn't you bring it up? That sounds like some pretty important info if you ask me. After all, a lyncher could end the game for town.

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I thought was answering the full question.

 

[Delvro]

Delvro, calm yourself by talking about Swords/th3kuzi.

If one of them is scum, which is it and why?
Who are you looking at after Tom's flip?
Who are you looking at after DH's flip?

If Tom and DH flip town, I still want to consider KY, on the basis that I feel like he made up his role. A good mod wouldn't put in such a gaping loophole in someone's role that makes the role effectively null and void (in other words, KY is pretty much a Vanilla Townie as long as he doesn't make a single post while he's at L-1). Therefore, he probably lied about it.

If I was forced to choose between Swords/Kuz, I would probably choose Swords. I don't think that either of them are all that scummy, but Kuz is much less so.

 

[#HBC | J]

Kay, now what is your town point system looking like as of now?

That was very interesting when I saw it the first time.

 

[Delvro]

I stopped keeping track, sorry. I'll give you a scumminess tier list though (although realize that I'm making this up on the spot.)

Scummy:
Dark Horse (Metaknight tier scummy)
Kirbyoshi (Snake tier scummy)

Sort of Townie:
-Vocal-
Rockin
Sworddancer

Townie:
Nabe
Ranmaru
th3kuzinator
J

 

[#HBC | J]

KY, talk about Nabe since I see you viewing but not posting.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Delv, J

You guys seem to be thinking that I was the sole reason Tom was lynched. In case you noticed, 5 other people were voting for Tom, and no one really spoke up against Kuz's plan


Delv

LAL is bull****.

Second, I do not know whether I am a miller or not

Third, if I had claimed a guy from inception, who's a miller, do you think anyone would believe me?

 

[#HBC | J]

I stopped keeping track, sorry. I'll give you a scumminess tier list though (although realize that I'm making this up on the spot.)

Scummy:
Dark Horse (Metaknight tier scummy)
Kirbyoshi (Snake tier scummy)

Sort of Townie:
-Vocal-
Rockin
Sworddancer

Townie:
Nabe
Ranmaru
th3kuzinator
J

Does Nabe rank so high because of Tery's play or his play?
Ran, that high cuz of claim?
Vocal so low, why?
Rockin so low even though his claim?
You just said Sword vs. th3kuzi was close to being both really townie but they seem to be leagues apart where you made note to put them in different categories. Why?
If DH AND KY both flip town. Would Vocal be next looking at your list?

 

[#HBC | J]

Delv, J

You guys seem to be thinking that I was the sole reason Tom was lynched. In case you noticed, 5 other people were voting for Tom, and no one really spoke up against Kuz's plan

Delv

LAL is bull****.

Second, I do not know whether I am a miller or not

Third, if I had claimed a guy from inception, who's a miller, do you think anyone would believe me?

Your passing to blame onto everyone but yourself.

"No! Not I!"

"Everyone else did have something to do with it but not me!"

"I didn't know!"

"No one was going to believe ME/MYSELF/I!"

Please die.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Lol at thinking there is salt. This is nothing compared to how we go at it in some games.

Sword unvoting means absolutely nothing. We are assuming there is only one mafia members left, so, if swords is mafia he would have no reason to unvote Tom because he would already be riding a mislynch. Same thing win indy. With the current setup at hand, I dont think we would have looked at him straight away upon a townTom flip, so unvoting at that moment only brought more attention to him than nessecary. You could call it noobScum, but its much more likely he is just a cautious townie. The move fits his playstlye that he has doing all game, its really just a null-tell.

More importantly, Dark Horse, if it ends up you're town and we do end up mislynching you, then l2p. Seriously. Also, while we still have time, FULL CLAIM RIGHT NOW. No lies, all you know. If you claim anything, and I mean anything different tomorrow you'll be ****ed.

The self preservation post made by Delvro, although a little strong, is 100% accurate and I agree with his thoughts on the matter. If Tom flips a town PR, I am going to be really freaking mad.

 

[Delvro]

Second, I do not know whether I am a miller or not

.....what?

Third, if I had claimed a guy from inception, who's a miller, do you think anyone would believe me?

Probably. Miller is a common role. But people would have been more likely to believe it before your no-hammer claim then after. The best time, however, would have been right when we discovered that this was Inception Mafia..... but you didn't do that.

 

[#HBC | J]

Leonidas, Town One-Shot Executioner (from 300)

Do this in your next post. My info was already known but th3kuzi why are we full claiming?

 

[th3kuzinator]

I was going to make the same post as Delvro but he made it first.

What freaking idiot scum claims to be a character from the movie we are obviously all after. He would use his fake claim. If anything, not lying and actually claiming a guy from inception would have been more believable. Now I feel I just can't trust you at all.

 

[Delvro]

Wait, Kuz, you want everyone to full claim or just DH?

 

[th3kuzinator]

nononononon I just told DH that he had to full claim this instant. I know he already did, but he lied once, right?

Everyone else dont full claim. I just want to make sure DH is not playing with us more.

 

[ranmaru]

You are using "Oh well since everyone else agreed he was scum, so Did I" to deflect attention off yourself.

When you are being looked at because of your lie.

You say you lied so that you can stay alive, but that's scum wincon. You should die for that.

If tom flips town, I'd consider Dh, Kirb, Kuz. I'll have to re-read a bit to strengthen my stances. I have been a bit busy. : D

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

. . . noobscum?

Kuz please, I've been playing this game while you were still in mafia diapers.

 

[ranmaru]

Sorry, was reffering to DH.

 

[#HBC | J]

I remember when Swords was an IC in one of MY first mafia games. Now he is definetely not a noob.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Thats why I said it wasn't noobscum

durrrrr

 

[th3kuzinator]

and lol @ mafia diapers XD

 

[#HBC | J]

Ran, talk about Vocal, mainly his big catch up post.

 

[Delvro]

Does Nabe rank so high because of Tery's play or his play?
Ran, that high cuz of claim?
Vocal so low, why?
Rockin so low even though his claim?
You just said Sword vs. th3kuzi was close to being both really townie but they seem to be leagues apart where you made note to put them in different categories. Why?
If DH AND KY both flip town. Would Vocal be next looking at your list?

I don't really have large suspicions of anybody except DH and KY.

Rockin is in the middle simply because he didn't return any results N1. If he gets results N2 and they're believable he will probably be more townie.

Swords is fairly townie. It's just that Kuz is EXTREMELY townie.

Yeah, Vocal would probably be 3rd. A very distant 3rd, however.

 

[#HBC | J]

Why did you skip the Ran question?
Why did you skip the Nabe question?

Answer both of these after telling why.

 

[Delvro]

Whoops. Yes Ran because of claim AND no night kill.

And Nabe because of Teryble Dooms acting extremely townie. That and Nabe wants KY dead which is nice.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I think we should deff look at the Vanillas after DH/KY

As I said, the fact that there is a tricker implies a few town visiting PRs. I want to believe Rockin for now, and that one X1 comment that he made about Tanny/Rockin relationship makes me ultra skeptical.

Anyone else curious at to why Kirbyoshi has been viewing this thread the entire time and not chimed in?

Yeah, Cop get on that...............^^^

 

[#HBC | J]

Kay I think I've asked you about everyone that is important. Anything else I should ask you?

 

[#HBC | J]

Kuzi, trickster only implies there is a watcher which only adds to Rockin's claim more....

 

[th3kuzinator]

Also, IDK if you all forgot about D1 before J busted a cap in X1, but X1 was trying pretty freaking hard to save KY and get TD lynched.

Like I have never seen X1 push for a lynch, especially against someone like Cello, that hard D1. Doubt TD, and therefore Nabe, was a scum buddy.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Cobb, Vanilla Townie (From Inception)

Happy?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Kuzi, trickster only implies there is a watcher which only adds to Rockin's claim more....

How so?

10?s

 

[th3kuzinator]

Cobb, Vanilla Townie (From Inception)

Happy?

Not really, considering you quick hammered Tom.

However, I do feel much better about possibly mis-lynching you.

 

[#HBC | J]

Eames (X1-12) Mafia Watcher Tricker has fallen as has his disguise.

Idk something along the lines that it says blatantly that he Tricked Watchers.....hence why he is called Watcher Tricker...derp.

Skim much?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Do you even know how a tricker works? lmfao.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@Mod, please clarify. Was X1 a Watcher and a Tricker, or was he a Tricker of Watchers?

 

[#HBC | J]

Excuse you?

I am going off of what it says in BIG BOLD RED LETTERS. I know you brought up something but look it says it in the name written by the mod, he is a WATCHER TRICKER.

What are you possibly talking about there is possibly a tracker/cop? Nothing is confirmed and you are just assuming.

 

[th3kuzinator]

The first one Nabe. Or at least, I think so.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Assuming the former; latter wouldn't be useful unless there were multiple Watchers (even then it's a bad role) and if there were multiple Watchers, one of them would've CC'd Rockin thinking they had a scumcatch.