Inception mafia: Town and Indy Joint Win!

[-Vocal-]

Why the use of the word Possibly alot? I mean. "possibly Vocal, possibly Sworddancer, possibly Teryble Doom." But what does it mean. Can you elaborate more then you have already done on Cello/Sir B/Myself. The word possibly just seems like "meh I'll throw that name, that name, and this name in there.

So to be clear your scum-pick you are clear on is Tanny? Why not vote her besides the reason you wanna hear more from her even though you think she's scum....? I'm confused.

The possiblys are an extension of this:

I'm bad at early game scum picks, so I'll tackle those last...

I don't feel confident enough to say "these people are scum;" it's much more of a "these are the people I suspect might be scum more than the other players in the game."

This also extends to Tanny, though it's a slightly stronger suspicion. I want her to contribute things to the conversation so that she will have some sort of connection to the game before being lynched. The difference between her and the others is simply that they have given us more to observe and analyze after their lynches if they were to take place.

Moving on: To re-iterate, I am comfortable with a Teryble lynch today. Although my read on him earlier was pretty null, arguments made against them recently hold more merit than any other arguments I've seen presented today in favor of a lynch. Additionally, I don't see them as a great asset to the town so far, though if they are townie they'll give us plenty to discuss tomorrow.

 

[-Vocal-]

EBWOP: "I don't see them" is referring to Teryble-Doom, not the arguments against them

 

[ranmaru]

@ Tery:

I mean when he was inactive you shouldn't have left it. Of course you would have to take your vote off once he DID get back on.

Now, who else do you think you should vote? Currently not voting and saying "we'll make a case later" isn't doing anything.

You said you were going to make a case on those three. WHY? I don't think you should say "I'm going to make a case on x,y,z later as if they are scummy". That's what i'm saying. You should already have an idea as to why you want to make the case, and just MAKE IT. Don't say you are going to. (At least give a brief reason as to why you want to make the case)


OH, so then they aren't scummy? You mean you are only voting them because they are inactive? We have lives you know. When it comes to someone viewing the thread, that is different. (They can lurk, but you can post and ask them to contribute, that is it)

Now, I said I wanted to see who else you thought was scum... But you say you will stick to the inactives. Why?

If everyone was active, which persons would you choose as a 3-scum pick list?

It's nice that you will get them to post, but post about others too, not just them. Spread it out.

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SCUMPICK EXPANSION -

Sworddancer - I think he is town. I need to see more from him. He did question me, which seems town. Also, hope he did well at that tournament. KISSIMEEEEEEEE <3

X1-12 - Followed Cello, or says he was agreeing, so early in RVS. Now says Kuz may be town.

th3kuzinator - Seemed to make a town read on Cello, but I don't think he really knew Cello was town. I think he just said that to garner reactions. Thus, that early post is null.

Tandora - No opinion, says she won't really contribute much until D2.

Kirbyoshi - Seems to be very sure Cello is town. He told Vocal he... was town... Gee, Cello has been pushing with that post in mind. Cello, I can agree a little bit about Kirb being confident you are town.

Cello_Marl - Leaning town, scumhunting, just needs to reply about his committment to keeping his vote on Rockin. I think he plays a bit risky and disregards it when asked. (happened twice this game)
Also never mentioned anything about X1 agreeing with him blindly, so early in RVS. Although he did comment on X1 stating that he was wrong.

Sir Bedevere - Is actively getting my attention to post my stances, and that is a townie thing to me. I still want to see more from him too.

Teryble Doom~ - Is sticking to voting Inactives, and is lingering too long with the case to be made on J, X1, and Kuz.

Dark Horse - Following X1. BAH. We shouldn't bother with DH toDAY, maybe toMorrow. Why? I don't know why he follows all the time... He is always town when lynched. So we should lynch someone else toDAY and then lynch him tommorow when we have more to go off of him. What do you guys think?

DH: Why do you play so scummy? Is there a benefit to it? (Why do you agree with everything? GAH)

J - I think he is town. I now agree with him on the X1 stance. I wouldn't mind X1/TD going toDAY.

-Vocal- - Still trying to assess Vocal's read.

Rockin - Needs to post more. D:

 

[ranmaru]

Also, I'm done for today. WHOOO. (I just posted two big posts omfg all dai)

I'll linger a bit to read any sudden replies, but I'll get off soon.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Kirbyoshi's vote needs to be on Teryble Doom if it isn't, but I don't think it is.

 

[ranmaru]

If TD goes toDAY who do you think should go ToMorrow?

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Yeah, I meant to do this earlier when I posted...

Unvote Tandora
Vote: Teryble Doom~

Dark Horse - Following X1. BAH. We shouldn't bother with DH toDAY, maybe toMorrow. Why? I don't know why he follows all the time... He is always town when lynched.So we should lynch someone else toDAY and then lynch him tommorow when we have more to go off of him. What do you guys think?

@The lime text: Why does that make a difference?

 

[Cello_Marl]

@Ranmaru: If he's anything that isn't independent and I die, Tandora. The only reason for that distinction is because I haven't considered any TD-indy scenarios.

 

[ranmaru]

I don't know why he plays that way. It's NEVER good to lynch a possible townie. We need to re-think ways to catch him if he really is scum.

So, if we lynch someone that can connect to him in some way, that could help us with our read on him.

Or would you rather just lynch him and get him out of the way? Not that I'm for Policy Lynches. It still urks me that he does this.

TD and DH are equal to me in scumminess regardless.

 

[ranmaru]

EBWOP:

Last post (#529) was in response to Kirb's #527.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

But why does the fact that "he is always town when lynched" matter with his alignment THIS game?

 

[ranmaru]

@Kirb:
I already stated that. Re-read my post.

 

[ranmaru]

@Kirb: Let me try to get you to understand...

He follows blindly... We all think he is scummy. We lynch him, and for some reason he was doing that as town.

Do you understand? Town must make accurate decisions about who to lynch, and DH is certainly a question mark in this town.

 

[Cello_Marl]

@Ranmaru: Do you think that Dark Horse would make a good target for a Cop investigation? Or someone else?

 

[ranmaru]

Sure, he should be copped. But, we shouldn't rely %100 on it, because we won't know if the cop will be sane or not. It would help.

At this time I can't think of anyone that I can't really get a read on. If I see someone being ambiguous then I'll want them copped. Usually I'd do something like that with X1 but this time around he had agreed with you a few times, without posting his stances really. I want to see X1's stances.

 

[ranmaru]

Bed time. :3

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Ran, if im following X1, then why didn't I immediately jump on the kirb wagon? Also, X1 gave up on Kuz a while back, while im still on him.

There are differences in our playing. Read before making accusations.

That lynch chart was made from my PoV, and in my PoV I'm confirmed town.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I don't play scummy.

You just don't read

 

[Kirbyoshi]

@Ran: It just seems like you're saying we shouldn't lynch DH simply because he's never been scum. Is that basically what you're saying?

 

[ranmaru]

@DH:

Why were you so sure of a Kuz lynch that early on?

Ok, what do you think of Kirb?

What do you think of X1's strong town opinion of you, DH?


@Kirb: I said that he should be left for D2. Meaning I'd lynch X1/TD over him, but I'd still want him lynched after.

 

[Teryble Doom~]

@ Tery:

I saw this and I knew this wasn't going to be good. My point will be proven later.

I mean when he was inactive you shouldn't have left it.

So what you're saying is, "Vote: Inactive, Unvote Vote: Inactive" would have been the most effective way to apply pressure on inactive players?

Of course you would have to take your vote off once he DID get back on.

Consider reading our posts. We voted Sir Bedevere. Sir Bedevere begins posting. We unvoted Sir Bedevere. It's not as if we're able to be online 24 hours a day, checking back at this thread every two minutes. Again, your wording is very poor.

Now, who else do you think you should vote? Currently not voting and saying "we'll make a case later" isn't doing anything.

You said you were going to make a case on those three. WHY? I don't think you should say "I'm going to make a case on x,y,z later as if they are scummy". That's what i'm saying. You should already have an idea as to why you want to make the case, and just MAKE IT. Don't say you are going to. (At least give a brief reason as to why you want to make the case)

*Facedesk* You really need to start actually reading the posts in this game, Ranmaru. I am not responsible for dark green font. I am posting in lime. You know this. Refer to Tery as Tery and Dooms and Dooms. Again, if you're just being stupid and addressing my head of the hydra for something Dooms said, be my guest. You're not actually doing anything and only making a fool out of yourself.

 

[Cello_Marl]

*Facedesk* You really need to start actually reading the posts in this game, Ranmaru. I am not responsible for dark green font. I am posting in lime. You know this. Refer to Tery as Tery and Dooms and Dooms. Again, if you're just being stupid and addressing my head of the hydra for something Dooms said, be my guest. You're not actually doing anything and only making a fool out of yourself.

No, you get this through YOUR heads. YOU are a hydra. You are a single player slot. If you don't wish to be treated as such, then you shouldn't BE a hydra.

Think about it; YOU (Tery) are the only person in this game that is in direct, AIM-capable communication with Joey/Dooms. YOU are the ONLY person that CAN speak with him at length, KNOWING what his alignment is, and can understand why and what he is doing. Why are you browbeating a person who doesn't know what Doom's alignment is and simply wants his player slot to have reasonable explanations for it's actions? Why is it better to allow that avenue of conversation to lie barren, unfulfilled, which in turn prevents us from moving on to other conversation?

You've had EIGHT days to speak with your partner, and you mean to tell us that you can't even get together to speak about this game for even, say, an HOUR with the noose hanging over your head? Why didn't you make an appointment or some other sort of arrangement to meet?

All heads of a hydra are responsible for everything that every other head of that hydra says and does. If you can't deal with that, then drop out of the game.

 

[X1-12]

so lynching teryble now?


still stalling. Will read the thread properly soon, tomorrow most likely

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

@ran

Because he was acting very scummy.

Already answered the part about x1

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Yeah, TD using the "it's my other head's fault" excuse is mad grimy.

unvote
vote Tery_Doom

Kuz I still think is scummy but I can't see his lynch happening toDay and plus he's dropped down on my scum list. I would rather lynch Tanny/TD toDay. Voting TD since that's the way the wagon is swinging.

@X1: Sorry if you already posted this and I missed it, but what are your thoughts on Tanny?

 

[Teryble Doom~]

Sword, it is my fault though lol. I haven't been here at all lately sooooo Tery really hasn't been able to talk to me much.

@Ran: Wow. Just wow. Still voting inactives? Our next post after Sir Bed posted content was unvoting. Way to go you caught me. I'm wanting to lynch inactives all the time even though my vote isn't on one. Interesting.

Next post will be me building a case.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Let's see...Ranmaru, X1, J, Kirbyoshi, Sworddancer.. That's L-2, so it's time for you to claim, Teryble Doom. Don't waste time, like Kirbyoshi has done.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Joey, stop replying to this thread, do it as Teryble Doom.

 

[Teryble Doom~]

Yep. X1.

What has he done so far with his votes?

@Cello: Will you settle on a Teryble Doom Lynch? Do you need me to go into how I'm better than you at reading noobs again?

Unvote
Vote: Teryble Doom

Unvote
Vote: Th3kuzinator

I am for now

Unvote
Vote: Kirbyoshi

Notice something strange? Yep, these are the WHOLE posts for all 3 of his votes so far. They have NO reasoning. The only thing that could be considered reasoning is "I can read noobs better than you!" Yeah good job X1. You so pro (y).

He also always voted someone after the person always had a vote on them. Cello voted Kuz and Kirbyoshi; Ran voted us(with his "Pick 3 scum picks besides the people that you think are scummy").

Look at Ran's post.

I meant voting Inactives as a place holder vote. But now you unvoted. Why?

Sorry Mod.

Vote: Teryble Doom

Don't seem to have their own stance. I want to see them vote/ list a scum pick besides J,X1,Kuz. 2-3 at least.

Notice that he actually gives some reasons as to why he's voting within the post. I actually had to take out some other info. Even though he's BS'ing most of the stuff he has against us (pick 2-3 scum people besides the people that you think are scummy. He also says that I've been on J during the whole game, which is obviously false. I stated that I just started thinking J recently when I made the post with J/Kuz/X1), he still has his reasoning. X1 you could learn from this. It'll make you better scum, which you obviously need right now.

Most of X1's other posts are stuff like "You happened. Die." (yeah, that's a quote from a whole post) and "tick... tock... tick... tock..." (also a whole post quote), which are completely pointless to the game. There are some posts that are like "To clarify, wait for and check the votecount, if he's not at L-1 then Vote kirbyoshi".

There is an interesting convo of him calling DH townie/not smart enough to trick town(which is ALWAYS a bad thing to think) by something as little as defending himself even when it's not asked.

Even if he kind of explained his reasonings for voting later on Kuz, he didn't at ALL on Kirbyoshi, and all he did for us was ask us a few questions or two and as soon as someone voted us KABAM. Just teryble, really.

Also, by your definition of wishy-washy, that's exactly what you're being. You're not giving us ANY opinions besides a vote, a little scum hunting at the beginning of the game, and defending DH. >_>

@Ran: Why do we need to have 5-6 scum picks? I only have 3, and no, I havn't been focusing on J the whole game. Honestly I just think the way he says things isn't town-like.

 

[Teryble Doom~]

I read that too late before I started making my case, Cello. Sorry~ We both agree'd to that though. I just made the case. Those thoughts are coming from both heads. Color just shows that it's me posting AS Teryble Doom~.

We're VT.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

@Joey: How much experiance do you have as a hydra? How well do you know Tery?

Thing is, blaming one head of the hydra for scummy actions is one of the most scummy things you can do as a hydra. It gives the hydra an easy out, and as a hydra you really shouldn't have an excuse for not sharing your thoughts.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Also Tery what character are you?

 

[Teryble Doom~]

@ our argument: Take out:

"or two" after "a few questions"

Add:

"also" after "There are" before "some posts that are like"

Yeah I made a few grammatical errors sorry!

 

[Teryble Doom~]

This is my first game Hydra'ing. I don't honestly know Tery well unfortunately. I'll check our character now.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Who do you want us to lynch when you die, Teryble Doom? Pick one person.

 

[Teryble Doom~]

Obviously X1.

Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Caribbean.

 

[Cello_Marl]

If it's so obvious, why isn't your vote on him?

 

[Dooms]

Oh yeah forgot to do that in my case XD!

Vote: X1

 

[Teryble Doom~]

Oh yeah forgot to do that in my case XD!

Vote: X1

Heehee :3 whoops.

 

[Cello_Marl]

Lynch X1 toMorrow, regardless of what alignment Joey flips. Actually, especially if he flips scum.