I can't believe people are complaining about the nerf
He's still the easiest character to play in the game and he is still better than most of the cast. Still has better kill tools than most of the cast, and has the best frame data in the game. Best or second best projectile, best combo breaker and the best upsmash alongside a fast fsmash that kills as early as a heavy's. Most characters would kill for his dsmash but Luigi doesn't use it much because he has better options lol.
He has literally the best damage on hit and kill power relative to framedata and people still complain that you actually have to earn your kills with reads now.
The way I see it, if Luigi had been like this since vanilla I don't think people would be complaining. Especially considering people are still getting results with him.
No, the easiest character in the game goes to Ness or Yoshi. Yoshi barely has any end lag on his moves while having super armor on his second jump and Ness has side B that does 20% damage that combos to anything and has a killing bthrow starting as early as 80-90%. Pre-patch Luigi was debatable but now, he requires more knowledge and skill to use effectively.
Kill tools that require reads, he has some good ones but nowhere near the best.
Best frame data doesn't belong to Luigi. He has amazing data yes, easily top 10 or top 5, but best frame data goes to Sheik.
Best projectile also goes to Sheik. Fast, invisible and scaling knockback, that means you can win neutral with one button at high percents.
Best combo breaker...You mean the Nair im guessing? That Yoshi, Mario, Ness, Peach and a lot of other characters share?
Luigi's, Yoshi's, Pikachu's and Mario's Nair comes out at Frame 3, Ness' and Peach's at frame 5. Its not the best, its TIED for the best. Has higher damage and knockback when sweetspotted which might make it seem better, but that's not always what you want in every situation.
Best Usmash belongs to Lucas, while Mario/Luigi/Sheik/Doc being a close second if sweetspotted. And yeah, Fsmash is fast but it has little range and its active on frame 12-13 like most of the cast and again, it has no set up. It requires a good read from the Luigi player considering our speed to keep up with others.
Lol no, Luigi mains use Dsmash often as its one of his best moves and its active on Frame 6. Honestly, this would be one of the best dsmashes in the game and its one of the things that make Luigi VERY viable.
We're not the best damage on frame data on EVERY move. Nair is definitely one but that's about it. And we don't complain that we require reads, no. We complain that Sheik, the strongest in the game, is left untouched while we got our dthrow, our core mechanic, reworked so now we have to learn the character ALL over again and see what works at what percents and what doesn't while we have a laughable recovery comparable to Little Mac and no speed to keep up with all the other top tiers. Also, our punish game is horrible since we slide when we get hit while shielding so a good Luigi HAS to perfect shield in order to get damage in with our so called "amazing" data.
Lastly, on tournament results, the only good Luigi getting results is a Boss...on weekly tournaments...Now, when was the last time you saw a Luigi at the top 8 in any other being tournament after the patch?
So please, look up some info before opening your mouth. Thank you.