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save feeling here, Sakurai really threw us off this time.I remember standing up two hours past the usual update time, still seeing Pitfall listed, and was like screw it and went to bed. I was expecting something like some random stage, item, music, or Metaknight, but I didn't expect a newcomer.
i ment, it a shot of the supposed aether "hit" the only point worth taking of... (as in, he could have done any sword twirling relative to the game before the strike) if it is or isnt the aether move only TIME will tell.... but do you think any of his brawl moves or going to be one for one with his game's moves, marth's and roy's werentMeaning that you have absolutely no reason to believe that those screen shots are Ike using Aether. Those shots could be of anything. Although, since I'm assuming that the creators of this game would at least try to make it look like what it's supposed to be, and none of the shots look anything like what Ike looks like before, after or during Aether, it hardly seems likely that any of them are.
There weren't any specials in the Fire Emblem games that Marth and Roy come from. There wasn't really anything to get wrong. I'm not saying that everything's going to look exactly like it did in Ike's game. I'm saying that that it's going to look at least something like it. All of those pictures look nothing like Aether. Neither do they look like he's just finished performing Aether.i ment, it a shot of the supposed aether "hit" the only point worth taking of... (as in, he could have done any sword twirling relative to the game before the strike) if it is or isnt the aether move only TIME will tell.... but do you think any of his brawl moves or going to be one for one with his game's moves, marth's and roy's werent
plus, none of the characters hit by it are getting knocked away so it is atleast SOME KIND of special Ike only move
The fact that he can wield a two-handed sword with a single hand is a testament to his magnificent strength.
That's so Roy! Two handed sword? One handing? Magnificent strength?Try for a single-stroke finishing blow with his mighty blade!
The sword that Marth uses in Melee (Falcion) is hardly a rapier. it's nearly as big as Roy's Sword of Seals on its own. Ike was by no means slow in his game either. By the end, he was strong enough that even very heavy weapons didn't hinder his speed all that much. Of course, they could very well make him slower in Brawl...Why are people saying that Ike is going to replace Marth? Just look at what Sakurai said on the main page:
That's so Roy! Two handed sword? One handing? Magnificent strength?
Last time I checked Marth used a rapier primarily, which is why you need to tipper it in Melee. The idea that they'd replace Marth's quick comboing (and everything else he does) with a mighty broadsword is laughable at best.
Now if they're leaving Ike in, alone, and nobody else from Fire Emblem, maybe. But I doubt it.
I smell biased in your statement.If you give a character too much potential, people will come to exploit it sooner or later. There's no point in debating how hard he is to master when his moves are ridiculous on any level, unless you're talking about top tier vs. top tier. And just what does Marth do to any character that isn't top tier, CF, or ICs? He destroys them. I despise him, his ridiculous 40% tipper KOs, his camping game, and his 100% damage edgeguards just as much any asset of any other top tier.
Lol at hinting Marth would be unable to get grabs when he wants to, btw.
Besides that, I think Ike might be a replacement to Marth as the Fire Emblem representative. Marth's never even appeared in a FE game released in the states, so Ike would be a more recognizable character on a much wider level.
What's funner than whacking people with a big metal phallus, though?If only his sword wasn't so phallic.
Ok!Now let's go over those screen shots again...
Ike's possible taunt.
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Neutral air A - second strike
Neutral A - second strike
Nonsense!So far, he doesn't look like he fights like neither Marth nor Roy to me. I'm not seeing anything that comes close to Aether in any of those screen shots.
who know?PS... I have feeling this post was very unfriendly to those on 56k.![]()
I know! When I first saw this this morning, I was so shocked I almost had a heart attack! And then I was so excited, I really DID have a heart attack! (JK)VICTORY!!!
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Ike's sword has a ranged attack, and he has a special, both things that Marth and Roy don't have. The other Japanese only sword user lords would probably be fairly similar, but a speed/critical based lord, like LYn or Eirika (the latter so unlikely that she's barely worth mentioning) would be quite different. Also, there are Lords that use different kind of weapons as well: Ephraim (spears), Hector (axes), Sothe (knives), Micaiah (light magic) and so forth.I am not a FE fan, but Ike looks good. Much cooler than Roy and Marth.
But I hope he is the only FE representative. Marth would look too similar during gameplay, even if their models had many different details. Plus I do not think other lord/ sword characters in FE can be that different then each other. It is still a sword swinging in one direction or another.
One character can easily represent the series strategy based game alone. Just like Captain Falcon can represent the fast paced action of his series alone.
This leaves room for other series. And with new techniques (crawling, footstool jumping, final smashes) and deeper gameplay, I do not think there will be more then 35 characters. Maybe just 30.
It's been said at least twice before that Ike would almost certainly have a projectile attack. His sword's magic or something of the sort and can do a wave... thing.He's not built as a speed character, and with that sword there's no way he could be the new Marth. I can see him as a replacement of Roy, because any slower than that and he's the new Bowser. Roy's problem was just being a stat change with some fire effects thrown in, this guy seems designed as a heavy hitter. Good reach, powerful weapon and physical attacks, but I doubt he'd be exceptionally fast. This can lead to a mid-speed, heavier power playing style unlike anything in Melee. No projectiles, give him a shorter jump, this guy could be a solid character for 3-4 player matches with everyone in the fray. I can see him as a hidden character with the warning screen and his supposed style being both solid and new.
A Marth vs Ike fight could come down to speed versus power. He's not a broken clone, he could be the Anti-Marth in theory. Ike could either bring up a new kind of player, or the Marth players would split down the middle favoring one or the other.
Pending Ike is an exposed unlockable to advertise for the new game, I'll go out of my way to unlock him before the others. Just that hidden character match alone might show off his real style. Clone, the new Marth, or something else entirely...?