gamer8
Smash Lord
I gotta agree with their top 10, I want them in too.
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IGN's wishlist for Smash 4
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smash_lord1050
Smash Apprentice
thats stupid!!!!!! wheres megaman????
Pieman0920
Smash Master
Well...
Bowser Jr./Shadow Mario: I can see Bower Jr. being in the next game if his current status of being a important side villain remains. He's got the moveset pottential, and really has had importance in the plot Shadow Mario though...not so much. It was there for one game, had no real distinguishable moves, and that's it. While the same can be said about Sheik, she got in at the right time, and is now here to stay. We've already past that phase with Bowser Jr, so chances are he'd be stand alone. I vote Half Yes.
Tom Nook: Even more than a generic Animal Crosser, Nook represents the series the best. There are also a variety of moves that could be implemented that could make him work. Heck, you could throw in some of Mario's Tanooki suit moves for him. I vote Yes.
Samurai Goroh: This guy is the only real next representative F-Zero could really have. He's got long standig importance coupled with the one thing most F-Zero characters lack, actual move set pottential. He not only has his sword, but he actually knows sumo. Meanwhile Black Shadow, his only real competition, has absolutley nothing at all outside of his Batman wannabe apperance. I vote Yes
King K. Rool: This thing...really shouldn't get into whatever is next. Just look at the thing nd how malformed it is...heck, it's just Bowser from the Super Show. I vote No.
Geno: Oh Geno...You're one of my favorite video game characters, but you seriously have no chance at all. People kept on thinking that Nintendo would go out of its way to deal with at get the rights for a character with such a small role...even when the company itself has multiple better known characters. This guy really can't get in despite fanbase here. I vote No.
Mewtwo: Hehe. No one cared about Mewtwo at all before, and now that he's gone, everyone is crying that they want him back. Personally I don't care all that much about him, but I think that he will probaby make it into the next one due to him being in Melee combined with the large fan outcry. Hopefully he will get impoved. I vote Yes.
Rival Pokemon Trainer: Well...I can't say a thing here. It's just asking for nother PT like character. Any opinions I would have would be based on the Pokemon the Rival would have. But, the thing is that that's way too many Pokemon. If you keep the old PT, Pika, Jigs, Lucario, and then add this guy along with Mewtwo, we have 10 Pokemon. Now personally, I like the idea of say having someone like Cynthia with both Lucario and Jigs as her Pokemon, along with a Garchomp to round it out, but that's just unlikely. In any case, I vote Maybe.
Midna: I doubt this. As others have said, Midna's probably not coming back. By the time that he next Smash is out, we'll probably have someone else from the latest LoZ get added. I think Smash may always be focused around the main three. Unless Midna breaks away from the fate of all the other Zelda characters, I'll have to vote No.
Ridley: Yes. There's nothing more I think needs to be said. I vote Yes.
Koopalings: This one's a shocker, huh? How it would work out though is beyond me. There are too many of them after all...But that still doesn't mean they wouldn't be a awesome addition. Seriously, if you're voting them down, you probably never played the games they were in or something. While I wouldn't technically put them higher than Ridley, these guys are still somehing I'd love to see pulled off. I vote Yes.
Bowser Jr./Shadow Mario: I can see Bower Jr. being in the next game if his current status of being a important side villain remains. He's got the moveset pottential, and really has had importance in the plot Shadow Mario though...not so much. It was there for one game, had no real distinguishable moves, and that's it. While the same can be said about Sheik, she got in at the right time, and is now here to stay. We've already past that phase with Bowser Jr, so chances are he'd be stand alone. I vote Half Yes.
Tom Nook: Even more than a generic Animal Crosser, Nook represents the series the best. There are also a variety of moves that could be implemented that could make him work. Heck, you could throw in some of Mario's Tanooki suit moves for him. I vote Yes.
Samurai Goroh: This guy is the only real next representative F-Zero could really have. He's got long standig importance coupled with the one thing most F-Zero characters lack, actual move set pottential. He not only has his sword, but he actually knows sumo. Meanwhile Black Shadow, his only real competition, has absolutley nothing at all outside of his Batman wannabe apperance. I vote Yes
King K. Rool: This thing...really shouldn't get into whatever is next. Just look at the thing nd how malformed it is...heck, it's just Bowser from the Super Show. I vote No.
Geno: Oh Geno...You're one of my favorite video game characters, but you seriously have no chance at all. People kept on thinking that Nintendo would go out of its way to deal with at get the rights for a character with such a small role...even when the company itself has multiple better known characters. This guy really can't get in despite fanbase here. I vote No.
Mewtwo: Hehe. No one cared about Mewtwo at all before, and now that he's gone, everyone is crying that they want him back. Personally I don't care all that much about him, but I think that he will probaby make it into the next one due to him being in Melee combined with the large fan outcry. Hopefully he will get impoved. I vote Yes.
Rival Pokemon Trainer: Well...I can't say a thing here. It's just asking for nother PT like character. Any opinions I would have would be based on the Pokemon the Rival would have. But, the thing is that that's way too many Pokemon. If you keep the old PT, Pika, Jigs, Lucario, and then add this guy along with Mewtwo, we have 10 Pokemon. Now personally, I like the idea of say having someone like Cynthia with both Lucario and Jigs as her Pokemon, along with a Garchomp to round it out, but that's just unlikely. In any case, I vote Maybe.
Midna: I doubt this. As others have said, Midna's probably not coming back. By the time that he next Smash is out, we'll probably have someone else from the latest LoZ get added. I think Smash may always be focused around the main three. Unless Midna breaks away from the fate of all the other Zelda characters, I'll have to vote No.
Ridley: Yes. There's nothing more I think needs to be said. I vote Yes.
Koopalings: This one's a shocker, huh? How it would work out though is beyond me. There are too many of them after all...But that still doesn't mean they wouldn't be a awesome addition. Seriously, if you're voting them down, you probably never played the games they were in or something. While I wouldn't technically put them higher than Ridley, these guys are still somehing I'd love to see pulled off. I vote Yes.
captainfalconmute
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hmm, interesting. heres mine:
10. Bowser Jr / Shadow Mario - NO
9. Tom Nook - NO
8. Samurai Goroh - NO
7. King K. Rool - NO
6. Geno - YES
5. Mewtwo - YES
4. Rival Pokemon Trainer - ABSOLUTE NO NO NO
3. Midna - NO
2. Ridley - NO
1. Koopalings - Are they taking this seriously?
and i cannot believe they put 'pokemons'...
Okay, speculation on Smash 4 is getting kind of ridiculous now, most of us haven't even played Brawl yet. If you guys got all the characters you wanted NOW in the next Smash, you'd be pissed, because I guarantee there will be a kajillion new characters we'll all want that Nintendo brings out within the next few years.
And a lot of you are flipping out like IGN decides who's in. This is just what THEY want. They're not making the choices for you. It's opinion. That's it. We're not going to get another Smash for a LONG time, so let's just enjoy the one we just got/are soon to get.
And a lot of you are flipping out like IGN decides who's in. This is just what THEY want. They're not making the choices for you. It's opinion. That's it. We're not going to get another Smash for a LONG time, so let's just enjoy the one we just got/are soon to get.
bayonettrials
Smash Cadet
Tom Nook (or an AC rep) VERY YES!
AC should have had a rep. Simple as that.
AC should have had a rep. Simple as that.
Machete
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Well... pretty strange.
I mean... OK. K. Rool, Ridley, Goroh, Tom Nook, Mewtwo and Bowser Jr. deserve to be in the next game, even if you don't like them. F-Zero and Metroid need a new character. Mario, Donkey Kong and Pokémon deserve another one. Animal Crossing should have one as well.
Geno... well.. I'm pretty neutral about him. If the roster is big enough, he should be in.
Midna, no. Even though I like her, in the next.. ¿5-7? years she won't be in any Zelda game, so she wouldn't deserve the playable status. However, if she reappears, then she's a "maybe".
Koopalings, no. Sorry, they deserve a trophy, but nothing more. They'd need more recent appearances, and Bowser Jr. is enough.
I'm a bit surprised with this list. A new FE main character (probably replacing Ike), a new extremely-popular Pokémon (probably replacing Lucario along with Mewtwo), a new Zelda main antagonist-sidekick are likely choices too. Ok, they don't count because they don't exist yet.
But Krystal is a extremely likely choice (even though I hate her, I think the only character who'll be more likely than her will be Ridley), and they didn't mention her. Isaac, if he reappears in a new Golden Sun, would be another likely character...
Meh, it's too soon to debate that. From that list, the only "likely" choices that I see are K. Rool, Ridley, Mewtwo, Nook, Goroh and Bowser Jr.
I mean... OK. K. Rool, Ridley, Goroh, Tom Nook, Mewtwo and Bowser Jr. deserve to be in the next game, even if you don't like them. F-Zero and Metroid need a new character. Mario, Donkey Kong and Pokémon deserve another one. Animal Crossing should have one as well.
Geno... well.. I'm pretty neutral about him. If the roster is big enough, he should be in.
Midna, no. Even though I like her, in the next.. ¿5-7? years she won't be in any Zelda game, so she wouldn't deserve the playable status. However, if she reappears, then she's a "maybe".
Koopalings, no. Sorry, they deserve a trophy, but nothing more. They'd need more recent appearances, and Bowser Jr. is enough.
I'm a bit surprised with this list. A new FE main character (probably replacing Ike), a new extremely-popular Pokémon (probably replacing Lucario along with Mewtwo), a new Zelda main antagonist-sidekick are likely choices too. Ok, they don't count because they don't exist yet.
But Krystal is a extremely likely choice (even though I hate her, I think the only character who'll be more likely than her will be Ridley), and they didn't mention her. Isaac, if he reappears in a new Golden Sun, would be another likely character...
Meh, it's too soon to debate that. From that list, the only "likely" choices that I see are K. Rool, Ridley, Mewtwo, Nook, Goroh and Bowser Jr.
Unfortunately probable, given the ending of Twilight Princess. But personally, I'm holding out hope. They made Midna the most dynamic, interesting character the Zelda series has ever seen, and clearly there are a lot of fans who simply fell in love with her during the course of the game. If someone like Tingle can wind up with his own games based just on a weird quantity of fans forming around him in Japan, surely someone like Midna at least has a shot at becoming a recurring character. But even if she doesn't, I at least will still support her for the next SSB game if/when one is made.
Zevox
Lecto2007
Smash Lord
HAhaha this is absolutely pathetic.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
I read this and simply can't really say anything because of how miseribly biased it is. Dismissing K. Rool simply on his looks while supporting the almost entirely impractical Koopalings is beyond ********... Really, at GDC, Sakurai said what his four standards were for selecting characters:
1. The character's inclusion must make people want to play the game.
2. The character must be unique.
3. The character must fit into the style of Super Smash Bros.
4. They must contribute to the game balance.
Beyond that, there are only a few characters that Sakurai has completely turned down:
-Sukapon
-Characters from the early NES days that offer little to work with (Balloon Fighter, Bubbles, Duck Hunt Dog, etc)
-Completely region exclusive characters (ie; only Japan) on most occasins.
-The Animal Crosser
-Pac-man
-An L block from Tetris
Really, regarding your arguement against Geno, most people got screwed over, not just Geno fans. Takamaru and Krystal, for example, made mere cameos despite a decent amount of support from both sides of the Ocean. Sakurai decided on 34 out of the game's individual 35 characters on July 7th 2005, 10 months before the offical Brawl poll. In the reality of things, no one stood a chance, not just Geno. To put it in perspective, Sonic wasn't added until the summer of 2007... Get the picture? You have a man that made up his mind 3 months before production even started and added only one new character in the span of almost two years.
The question then goes to how did Sakurai come up with the 14 newcomers? Simple, 10 of them were leftovers from the offical Melee poll or were left on the cutting room floor (Wario, Diddy Kong, Metaknight, Sonic, Snake, Pit, Wolf, Pokemon Trainer, King Dedede, and Lucas.) and the other four/five were pretty much added out of obligation:
ZSS (Sakurai explained at E3 06 that she was Brawl's "new female rep.")
Ike (The most recent FE lord at the start of production much like Roy in Melee.)
Lucario (Pokemon representing the most recent generation.)
Olimar (The only major Miyamoto franchise that didn't have a playable rep yet.)
ROB (A WTF character in the same lines as Mr. Game and Watch.)
With this being said, what's stopping Sakurai from going back to the top choices of the Brawl poll for SSB4?
King Dedede (5 entries)
Geno (5 entries)
Ike (4 entries)
Diddy Kong (4 entries)
Ridley (4 entries)
Krystal (3 entries)
Olimar (3 entries)
Toon Link (3 entries)
Takamaru (3 entries)
Megaman (2 entries and the only third party character that was mentioned more then once besides Geno.)
There's more that were mentioned more then once too like Isaac, Claus, and King K. Rool.
Really, if you ask me, K. Rool's chances of becoming playable in the next installment are outstanding because in each installment, Sakurai has added one big and heavy character:
Original- DK
Melee- Bowser
Brawl- King Dedede
Krystal's pretty much in the same boat too as far as female reps go:
Original- Samus
Melee- Zelda, Peach
Brawl- ZSS
In the end, I believe it's definately way too early to dismiss Geno or K. Rool and they definately have more going for them then you give them credit for.
Machete
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*cough* Ridley *cough*
If only one big and heavy character is added in SSB4, it'll be Ridley.
However, Ganondorf was added in Melee; and Charizard was added in Brawl, so adding more than one is likely, specially since both of them deserve to be in.
Storm Eagle
Smash Lord
No Isaac? You suck IGN. And he IS first party.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
But Ridley, Ganondorf, and Charizard really doesn't fall into the category I speak of though. Look at the body structures of DK, Bowser, and Dedede; can't you see the similarities? Ridley's basically what you'd get if you mixed Kate Moss and dragon.
Granted, Ridley probably would be one of the heavier characters but I seriously doubt he be as lumbering as the others I mentioned. Ridley would probably be realitively light on his feet for his size.
Machete
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Oh, now I see what you're saying. Yeah, even though Ridley would be big, he wouldn't be as heavy as them.But Ridley, Ganondorf, and Charizard really doesn't fall into the category I speak of though. Look at the body structures of DK, Bowser, and Dedede; can't you see the similarities? Ridley's basically what you'd get if you mixed Kate Moss and dragon.
Yeah, K. Rool would be more like Bowser or Dedede: big, fat and heavy.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
The main thing that bothers me about Ridley is whether or not Sakurai established his size for the SSB series with his boss appearance... I really want Ridley to be playable in the next installment but I don't know if Sakurai has the vision to make it possible. (He's a man that has a lot of hindsight instead of foresight.)
Luke Groundwalker
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What a mediocre and unvaried, unimaginative list.
Downfall
Smash Apprentice
I can see those who were AT's having the chance to become characters in the next one.
NUDGE NUDGE ISAAC.
NUDGE NUDGE ISAAC.
Downfall
Smash Apprentice
Needs more Cyndaquil, Bayleef, and FERALIGATR. GOD YES.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
That raises yet another question: did Sakurai make those characters ATs just to give them a spot in the sun this one time? Some seem rather obvious that they will never become playable like Jill, Waluigi, Harukin, Kat and Ana, and Lyn (hey, I'm just going off of what Sakurai said about most Japanese exclusives) but will Isaac or Ray 01 ever get the chance?
Downfall
Smash Apprentice
Waluigi, Kat and Ana... those characters were also in games released to the US of A. I don't know of any titles they're in that are Japanese exclusives. Sorry if I may have misunderstood you.
Probably. Just to tide us over until our next meal. I'm sure he's got something planned for the future, the trickster. I refuse to take anything he says seriously.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
I was actually only referring to Lyn because I know a ton of people still like her.
Downfall
Smash Apprentice
Storm Eagle
Smash Lord
Lyn is not Japanese exclusive.
Roy-Kun
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Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Wasn't she in the same game as Roy?
Downfall
Smash Apprentice
And the same game as Roy's father.
Which was the first FE brought stateside. It was on the GBA.
No, actually - she was one of the stars of Blazing Sword, the seventh FE game, and the first international one. The other two stars of that game, Hector and Eliwood, also appeared in Roy's game, Sword of Seals, but Lyn did not. She was created specifically for Blazing Sword. Thats one of the reasons many international fans like her - she was the first Lord, outside Marth and Roy via Melee, that we were introduced to.
Zevox
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Ah but I can't say much about her chances simply because with the Pokemon and Fire Emblem franchises, he seems to only care about the earliest and latest additions at least as far as playable characters go.
Jellybelly
Smash Ace
Female yes
But Mudkip, Grovyle and Blaziken would be a much better choice of Pokemon (some people wanted Blaziken separate.)
TheOfficialSonicFanboy
Smash Ace
This is how media works kids:
"Let's throw in some familiar true stuff and then throw in some speculation to get attention."
This article is pure bull. A lot of those characters shouldn't have been there and a few were missing. Horrible list.
"Let's throw in some familiar true stuff and then throw in some speculation to get attention."
This article is pure bull. A lot of those characters shouldn't have been there and a few were missing. Horrible list.
super-7
Smash Journeyman
all i want is k.rool and ridley in the next one and isaac 
Slight edit, but otherwise I completely agree with your list.
Well, Melee came out not long after SSB64, so hopefully we won't have another long wait.
Is not big, but it's well-received and critically-acclaimed. It was the secondmost notable new series (after Pikmin) from the last generation of games, at least in my opinion. The series is at least important enough to receive an AT. Also, the series isn't over; Nintendo wants a sequel, and Camelot wants to make a sequel (they finally finished their golf game, so hopefully... *crosses fingers*).
Also, a key factor in Isaac's popularity is his potential as a unique character. He has a sword (although he can also use axes, maces, or fight weaponless), but he also has a variety of earth-based magic (both the rock/dirt/sand variety and the thorns/vines variety), numerous psychic powers (most notably telekinesis), the abilty to hover, teleport, or stop time, various magical attacks from enchanted weaponry, and the ability to summon. He's certainly more unique than Landmaster the 3rd, at least.
Spyda
Smash Journeyman
lol rival trainer with like the next gen starts or soemthing wouldve been cool