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If you were in charge of roster picking for an upcoming Smash!!

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New roster, still work in progress.
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:4mario::4luigi::4peach::4bowser::4yoshi::4bowserjr:*:rosalina:*:4wario:*:4dk::4diddy::4link::4zelda::4ganondorf:*:4sheik::4tlink:*:4samus::4zss::4fox::4falco:*:wolf:*:4kirby::4metaknight::4dedede::4pikachu::4charizard::4jigglypuff:*:4mewtwo:*:4lucario:*:4greninja::4ness::4lucas:*:4falcon::popo::4marth::4myfriends::4robinm::4corrinf:*:4gaw:*:4pit::4palutena::4olimar::4rob:*:4villager::4littlemac::4wiifit::4shulk::4duckhunt:*:4sonic:*:4megaman:*:4pacman:* (50 characters)
I originally wanted to cut :4corrinf: and keep :4feroy:, but since he's a semi-clone (While Corrin is a unique character, who also represents a very successfull game), I decided to cut Roy and keep Corrin.
:4drmario::4lucina::4darkpit: are demoted to alts. They keep their voice clips, taunts, victory pose, etc but they don't have their own slots anymore. The tornado is a custom move for Mario, and Pittoo's Side B and Neutral B are custom moves for Pit.
:4feroy:- I like Roy in Smash alot, but I feel like he's unneccesary. I definetly can't see him turning into a Marth alt, though; he's pretty different from Marth (Not as much as Wolf is to Fox, though). Sorry, mah boi. You'll get your chance another day.
:4ryu::4cloud: - I feel like the amount of third parties we got in Sm4sh is a bit excessive, so I decided to cut all the ones we got as DLC. Sorry guys, you're done.
:4bayonetta: - Just doesn't appeal to me and see above.
:4mii: - ugh
(8 cuts)
Captain Toad
King K. Rool*
Dixie Kong
Impa
Ridley*
Bandana Dee
Sceptile
Isaac
Takamaru* (Retro rep)
Inkling
Rayman*
Viridi
Slippy Toad (Not a Fox clone)
Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X)
how come you don't add Waluigi anymore?
 

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New roster, still work in progress.
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:4mario::4luigi::4peach::4bowser::4yoshi::4bowserjr:*:rosalina:*:4wario:*:4dk::4diddy::4link::4zelda::4ganondorf:*:4sheik::4tlink:*:4samus::4zss::4fox::4falco:*:wolf:*:4kirby::4metaknight::4dedede::4pikachu::4charizard::4jigglypuff:*:4mewtwo:*:4lucario:*:4greninja::4ness::4lucas:*:4falcon::popo::4marth::4myfriends::4robinm::4corrinf:*:4gaw:*:4pit::4palutena::4olimar::4rob:*:4villager::4littlemac::4wiifit::4shulk::4duckhunt:*:4sonic:*:4megaman:*:4pacman:* (50 characters)
I originally wanted to cut :4corrinf: and keep :4feroy:, but since he's a semi-clone (While Corrin is a unique character, who also represents a very successfull game), I decided to cut Roy and keep Corrin.
:4drmario::4lucina::4darkpit: are demoted to alts. They keep their voice clips, taunts, victory pose, etc but they don't have their own slots anymore. The tornado is a custom move for Mario, and Pittoo's Side B and Neutral B are custom moves for Pit.
:4feroy:- I like Roy in Smash alot, but I feel like he's unneccesary. I definetly can't see him turning into a Marth alt, though; he's pretty different from Marth (Not as much as Wolf is to Fox, though). Sorry, mah boi. You'll get your chance another day.
:4ryu::4cloud: - I feel like the amount of third parties we got in Sm4sh is a bit excessive, so I decided to cut all the ones we got as DLC. Sorry guys, you're done.
:4bayonetta: - Just doesn't appeal to me and see above.
:4mii: - ugh
(8 cuts)
Captain Toad
King K. Rool*
Dixie Kong
Impa
Ridley*
Bandana Dee
Sceptile
Isaac
Takamaru* (Retro rep)
Inkling
Rayman*
Viridi
Slippy Toad (Not a Fox clone)
Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X)
Dark Pit as an Alt. would be cool but the only thing that hold Dark Pit back for being a Alternate Costume is his Final Smash.
because it looks nothing like Pit's plus Dark Pit never used the Three Sacred Tresuars in KI: Uprsing
also why would you like F.L.U.D.D. it's useless to most people
 
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Dark Pit as an Alt. would be cool but the only thing that hold Dark Pit back for being a Alternate Costume is his Final Smash.
because it looks nothing like Pit's plus Dark Pit never used the Three Sacred Tresuars in KI: Uprsing
also why would you like F.L.U.D.D. it's useless to most people
Doesn't stop the Koopalings from using the Shadow Paintbrush though.
Eh, I dunno. I never really use Mario anyway.
 

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Pichu and Pikachu has different sizes and would mess with the programming. Pit and Dark Pit makes sense to make them alts if you take away their different attributes. However, Pichu as an alt of Pikachu doesn't make too much sense. It would be like trying to make Young Link an alt of Link. You can make the argument that technically the Koopalings should all be different sizes and attributes but they work perfectly as alts within the frame of Smash Bros.
 
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Pichu and Pikachu has different sizes and would mess with the programming. Pit and Dark Pit makes sense to make them alts if you take away their different attributes. However, Pichu as an alt of Pikachu doesn't make too much sense. It would be like trying to make Young Link an alt of Link. You can make the argument that technically the Koopalings should all be different sizes and attributes but they work perfectly as alts within the frame of Smash Bros.
TBH since i changed my mind i could see :4falcon::4metaknight::4lucas:as starters alongside with the rest
and i could see :4ness::4jigglypuff::4falco::4ganondorf::4mewtwo::4feroy::4gaw::4wario::4lucario::4rob::4tlink::wolf::rosalina::4palutena::4duckhunt:and:4corrin:as locked characters alongside with:4bowserjr::4pacman::4megaman::4sonic:and maybe:4bayonetta:(like you said about her being either a starter or locked)
do you agree?
 
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TBH since i changed my mind i could see :4falcon::4metaknight::4lucas:as starters alongside with the rest
and i could see :4ness::4jigglypuff::4falco::4ganondorf::4mewtwo::4feroy::4gaw::4lucario::4rob::4tlink::wolf::rosalina::4palutena::4duckhunt:and:4corrin:as locked characters alongside with:4bowserjr::4pacman::4megaman::4sonic:and maybe:4bayonetta:(like you said about her being either a starter or locked)
do you agree?
I never said they should be locked characters. I said that Sonic, Megaman, and Pac-Man "are locked in" as in:
"Not going anywhere"
"Practically confirmed to return"
"Locked into the roster"

All 3 are tremendously iconic and popular characters that basically revolutionized the 3rd party representation in Smash. Hence why they are a lock in the next game. I did not say that they should be characters that eed to be unlocked to play.
 
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I never said they should be locked characters. I said that Sonic, Megaman, and Pac-Man "are locked in" as in:
"Not going anywhere"
"Practically confirmed to return"
"Locked into the roster"

All 3 are tremendously iconic and popular characters that basically revolutionized the 3rd party representation in Smash. Hence why they are a lock in the next game.
well you said :4falcon::4ness::4jigglypuff::4falco::4ganondorf::4mewtwo::4feroy::4gaw::4metaknight::4wario::4lucas::4lucario::4rob::4tlink::wolf::rosalina::4palutena::4duckhunt::4corrin:should be DLC for $5.99 but i disagree with that idea because that idea would be redicolus so i rather see Captain Falcon, Meta Knight and Lucas as starters and the rest i talked about as Locked instead
 

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well you said :4falcon::4ness::4jigglypuff::4falco::4ganondorf::4mewtwo::4feroy::4gaw::4metaknight::4wario::4lucas::4lucario::4rob::4tlink::wolf::rosalina::4palutena::4duckhunt::4corrin:should be DLC for $5.99 but i disagree with that idea because that idea would be redicolus so i rather see Captain Falcon, Meta Knight and Lucas as starters and the rest i talked about as Locked instead
I was joking...
 
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New roster, still work in progress.

Starter Veterans:
:4mario::4luigi::4peach::4bowser::4yoshi::4dk::4diddy::4link::4zelda::4sheik::4samus::4zss::4fox::4kirby::4metaknight::4dedede::4pikachu::4charizard::4greninja::4ness::4falcon::popo::4marth::4myfriends::4robinm::4pit::4palutena::4olimar::4villager::4littlemac::4wiifit::4shulk:
Unlockable Veterans:
:4bowserjr::rosalina::4wario::4ganondorf::4tlink::4falco::wolf::4jigglypuff::4mewtwo::4lucario::4lucas:(either :4corrinf:or:4feroy:, not both):4gaw::4rob::4duckhunt::4sonic::4megaman::4pacman:
(50 characters)
:4drmario::4lucina::4darkpit: are demoted to alts. They keep their voice clips, taunts, victory pose, etc but they don't have their own slots anymore. The tornado is a custom move for Mario, and Pittoo's Side B and Neutral B are custom moves for Pit.
Either :4feroy: or :4corrinf: will get cut because I think 4 Fire Emblem characters is enough. I'll let you decide which one will stay and which one will get cut.
:4ryu::4cloud: - I feel like the amount of third parties we got in Sm4sh is a bit excessive, so I decided to cut all the ones we got as DLC. Sorry guys, you're done.
:4bayonetta: - Just doesn't appeal to me and see above.
:4mii: - ugh
(8 cuts)
Starter Newcomers:
Captain Toad
Dixie Kong
Bandana Dee
Sceptile
Isaac
Inkling
Unlockable Newcomers:
King K. Rool
Impa
Ridley
Takamaru
Rayman
(11 Newcomers)
Viridi
Slippy Toad (Not a Fox clone)
Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X)
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Update: Either Corrin or Roy would get cut; not sure which one to keep, so I'll let you decide.
 
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What if Intelligent Systems specifically made the main characters in new installments of FE to be more marketable and usable in Super Smash Bros. games? A good amount of recent Fire Emblem characters after Brawl have a lot more going for them than before Brawl IMO. Corrine was a great example of this trend.
 
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Keep Corrin, he is more unique than Roy.
I've honestly decided to change the roster AGAIN, and in order to reduce cuts, I'll keep both of them, as well as Ryu, Dr. Mario and Dark Pit.
 
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Here's another revision of my roster.
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VETERANS:
:4mario::4luigi::4peach::4bowser::4yoshi::4bowserjr:*:rosalina:*:4drmario:*:4wario:*:4dk::4diddy::4link::4zelda::4ganondorf:*:4sheik::4tlink:*:4samus::4zss::4fox::4falco:*:wolf:*:4kirby::4dedede::4metaknight::4pikachu::4charizard::4jigglypuff:*:4mewtwo:*:4lucario:*:4greninja::popo::4ness::4lucas:*:4falcon::4marth::4feroy:*:4myfriends::4robinm::4corrinf:*:4gaw:*:4pit::4palutena::4darkpit:*:4olimar::4rob:*:4villager::4littlemac::4wiifit::4shulk::4duckhunt:*:4sonic:*:4pacman:*:4megaman:*:4ryu:* (I think that's 54 characters in total)
Brought back Wolf and ICs. Wolf is my main and I miss him (Plus Starfox is underreped and his cut is pretty much unjustified), and while I understand why ICs were cut, they were unique and had an awesome victory theme, and if the next game will be a home console exclusive, they're almost guarenteed to return (Nana won't be able to grab though).
I originally meant to cut Pittoo, Doc, Ryu, and either Roy or Corrin, but I brought them back for the following reasons:
Doc because he's already different enough from Mario, Pittoo because he has alot of moveset potential (I'd keep his specials as they are, but he'd use the staff for his A attacks, as well as a different Final Smash), and I can't really explain why I kept Ryu.
Roy and Corrin can both stay, I just found it unfair to cut all third party DLC characters but keep a First party DLC character, but since I brought back Ryu, they can both stay.

CUTS:
:4lucina:(Becomes an alt for Marth):4cloud::4bayonetta::4mii: 4 cuts. (6 if you count the Miis as seperate characters)

Reasonings for this...
Lucina - I like Lucina as a character, but I feel like Fire Emblem is overrepresented in Smash Bros, and since we already have an awakening rep that is more unique, I decided to demote her to a Marth alt. I originally wanted to do the same with Doc/Mario and Pittoo/Pit, but they were either different enough from their originals (Doc) or had alot of moveset potential (Pittoo) (I know Lucina has alot of moveset potential as well, but I don't know enough about classes to declone her, and like I said, FE is over-represented, so yeah).
Cloud - Cloud is cool and all, but I wanted to limit third party characters (I think 5 is all we need, and there's another third-party character I want to add), plus I believe he's one and done like Snake
Bayonetta - I don't like her, simple as that. pleasedontkillme
Mii Fighters - ugh


NEWCOMERS:

Captain Toad
- Toad is an iconic and recurning Mario character, and I feel like he should be playable in Smash (No, a Mii costume doesn't count). I feel like Captain Toad is more fitting as he has actual moveset potential rather than random moves taken from Mario spin-off games.
King K. Rool* - Because of long overdue, DK underrepresentation, and the lack of villains. Also one of my most wanted characters.
Dixie Kong - I'd prioritize K. Rool over her, but DK is underrepresented, and Dixie is a pretty important character, so why not?
Impa* - I don't know a whole lot about her, but Zelda needs a new character, and since she's one of the only characters that appear in more than one game other than the triforce trio, she's (as far I'm concerned) the best candidate for the slot.
Ridley* - See K. Rool
Bandana Dee - Kirby isn't neccesarily underrepresented, but a fourth rep wouldn't hurt, and since he's a recurning character who also uses a spear, he's arguably the best candidate for the slot.
Sceptile - Grass starter, gen 3 rep, etc
Isaac - Long overdue, and even though I haven't played Golden Sun (YET), I know he has alot of moveset potential, so yeah.
Takamaru* - I haven't played his game(YET), but he has some following, was planned for Brawl and Sm4sh but was scrapped (Twice!), and is considered a retro character, so why not?
Inkling - I don't have Splatoon (yet), but I could tell by from gameplay footage alone that they are worthy for Smash. They're pretty much guarenteed to appear in the next Smash game due to Splatoon's success (Also because they had alot of support during the ballot from what I've seen), and I'd like to see them as well
Rayman* - The new third party guest, also one of my most wanted characters. Not sure what his moveset would be though
(11 Newcomers)

UPDATE: Doc would get cut, I learned that I dislike having him as his own character and I don't think he deserves a slot on the roster. He'd become an alt costume for Mario and Mario would get back his Tornado and Down air (FLUDD is a custom move) (Also to be clear, if FE wasn't so overrepresented, I'd keep Lucina and declone her, however I feel FE is fine with 5 reps. Doc would get cut either way) I'm still not sure which character I should add instead though.
 
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New characters:


Dixie Kong:
She's easily the next in line for a new DK rep, she's important, relevant and unique all in one and she could be extremely fun with a hair-based moveset making her a grappler type character almost that relies on throws.

King K. Rool: The main villain of the DK series makes a lot of sense, plus we need more villain and more heavyweights too, it's a win-win situation. He'd also have a pretty unique moveset with a bunch of crazy gadgets at his disposal.

Impa: One of the few reoccurring characters in the Zelda series with a lot of potential to be a unique character, she doesn't have too much but an agile magic user isn't something we have right now.

Ridley: Once again, more villains and more heavyweights, win-win. He would also be a very unique fighter with his tail, claws, teeth and even wings all at his disposal.

Medusa: Another villain and another classic villain too as the main antagonist of the first Kid Icarus which I think makes her somewhat iconic. She'd also be a fun fighter and could be the first female heavyweight (Unless Samus counts) which would be nice to see a bit of diversity in that regard. She has her staff and a bunch of attacks which could come straight from uprising like lasers and poisonous gas and tons more that could easily translate into a moveset.

Bandana Dee: The dee is next in line for a new Kirby character with a unique spear based playstyle which would be interesting to see, he'd also be very projectile heavy.

Takamaru: Upgrading from his assist trophy role in Smash 4 Takamaru makes a very unique fighter with his Katana with lighting quick attacks where he unsheathes and sheaths his blade with every swing.

Krystal: Krystal brings a unique Bojutsu fighting style with her attacks, combine that with her elemental attacks and she can be a very unique fighter, Many of her attacks could come straight from Adventures too so coming up with a moveset wouldn't be hard and with a semi-confirmed future she could very well get in.

Fiora: With her dual blades, drones and general agility, Fiora would be a very fun character, with a tension mechanic straight from her games and a variety of arts at her disposal, once again, a moveset isn't hard. Plus with recent appearances like Project X Zone 2 Fiora could very well keep showing up, she's still one of the least likely characters on this whole thing though.

Elma: The (practically) main character of the recent Xenoblade Chronicles X makes a lot of sense to show up and with her dual blades and dual guns that she can switch between at will she has good reason. Plus a sequel is only a matter of time at this point.

Isaac: The main character of the the Golden Sun series of games, although not exactly relevant the franchise should still be represented and Isaac would be a fun character with his earth based Psynergy attacks.

Chibi-Robo: Using his play as a makeshift whip, Chibi-Robo would be a very fun character however his future as of right now is unknown, regardless the series should be represented.

Inkling: Splatoon was a smash hit and Inklings have a lot of potential to be unique characters with a variety of weapons including guns, rollers, snipers, a bunch of different bombs, a wall of ink and so much more. Add in a territorial ink mechanic which allows them to swim across the map in seconds and a few moves from the mii gunners and you have a very unique character.

Knuckles: The rival to Sonic and one of Sega's most iconic characters, Knuckles does make some sense being a brawler. He'd have a mix of power and speed and potential unique mechanics like gliding, digging and climbing on walls which could easily make him a unique character.

Rayman: Another icon of the gaming industry, with his plethora of moveset potential and the decent relationship between Nintendo and Ubisoft I don't think he's too out there at all, plus he represents one of the biggest companies in the industry right now.

Lara Croft: She's easily one of the most iconic gaming characters to exist right now so she makes sense to add, especially if they wanted to appeal to western fans too. With athleticism and gunplay Lara could make a very fun and unique character and given Nintendo and Square's recent relationship them getting a second character isn't too far fetched, plus who knows? Maybe we could get Tomb Raider games on the NX.

Returning characters:

Wolf: Wolf is a fan favourite and given his importance to the Star Fox games it's mind boggling why he isn't in Smash 4.

Ice Climbers: The only thing holding them back was technical limitations, with that no longer being an issue they should have no problem returning.

Snake: Another extremely iconic character and although issues with Konami still exist, I say it's worth it to get this fan favourite back.

Pokemon Trainer: They're the best representation for the Pokemon series and Charizard being solo still annoys me, plus those technical limitations are gone too.

Cut characters:

Roy: I just don't think he's important enough compared to the other Fire Emblem characters of which I think there are too many.

Doctor Mario: He feels worthless, he's literally Mario in a Doctor's coat, I can't justify him being in at all.

Mii: For one thing, I forgot about them but also I just don't feel like they're worth the time or the effort and that time could've gone towards better characters
 
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New characters:


Dixie Kong:
She's easily the next in line for a new DK rep, she's important, relevant and unique all in one and she could be extremely fun with a hair-based moveset making her a grappler type character almost that relies on throws.

King K. Rool: The main villain of the DK series makes a lot of sense, plus we need more villain and more heavyweights too, it's a win-win situation. He'd also have a pretty unique moveset with a bunch of crazy gadgets at his disposal.

Impa: One of the few reoccurring characters in the Zelda series with a lot of potential to be a unique character, she doesn't have too much but an agile magic user isn't something we have right now.

Ridley: Once again, more villains and more heavyweights, win-win. He would also be a very unique fighter with his tail, claws, teeth and even wings all at his disposal.

Medusa: Another villain and another classic villain too as the main antagonist of the first Kid Icarus which I think makes her somewhat iconic. She'd also be a fun fighter and could be the first female heavyweight (Unless Samus counts) which would be nice to see a bit of diversity in that regard. She has her staff and a bunch of attacks which could come straight from uprising like lasers and poisonous gas and tons more that could easily translate into a moveset.

Bandana Dee: The dee is next in line for a new Kirby character with a unique spear based playstyle which would be interesting to see, he'd also be very projectile heavy.

Takamaru: Upgrading from his assist trophy role in Smash 4 Takamaru makes a very unique fighter with his Katana with lighting quick attacks where he unsheathes and sheaths his blade with every swing.

Krystal: Krystal brings a unique Bojutsu fighting style with her attacks, combine that with her elemental attacks and she can be a very unique fighter, Many of her attacks could come straight from Adventures too so coming up with a moveset wouldn't be hard and with a semi-confirmed future she could very well get in.

Fiora: With her dual blades, drones and general agility, Fiora would be a very fun character, with a tension mechanic straight from her games and a variety of arts at her disposal, once again, a moveset isn't hard. Plus with recent appearances like Project X Zone 2 Fiora could very well keep showing up.

Elma: The (practically) main character of the recent Xenoblade Chronicles X makes a lot of sense to show up and with her dual blades and dual guns that she can switch between at will she has good reason. Plus a sequel is only a matter of time at this point.

Isaac: The main character of the the Golden Sun series of games, although not exactly relevant the franchise should still be represented and Isaac would be a fun character with his earth based Psynergy attacks.

Chibi-Robo: Using his play as a makeshift whip, Chibi-Robo would be a very fun character however his future as of right now is unknown, regardless the series should be represented.

Inkling: Splatoon was a smash hit and Inklings have a lot of potential to be unique characters with a variety of weapons including guns, rollers, snipers, a bunch of different bombs, a wall of ink and so much more. Add in a territorial ink mechanic which allows them to swim across the map in seconds and a few moves from the mii gunners and you have a very unique character.

Knuckles: The rival to Sonic and one of Sega's most iconic characters, Knuckles does make some sense being a brawler. He'd have a mix of power and speed and potential unique mechanics like gliding, digging and climbing on walls which could easily make him a unique character.

Rayman: Another icon of the gaming industry, with his plethora of moveset potential and the decent relationship between Nintendo and Ubisoft I don't think he's too out there at all, plus he represents one of the biggest companies in the industry right now.

Lara Croft: She's easily one of the most iconic gaming characters to exist right now so she makes sense to add, especially if they wanted to appeal to western fans too. With athleticism and gunplay Lara could make a very fun and unique character and given Nintendo and Square's recent relationship them getting a second character isn't too far fetched, plus who knows? Maybe we could get Tomb Raider games on the NX.

Returning characters:

Wolf: Wolf is a fan favourite and given his importance to the Star Fox games it's mind boggling why he isn't in Smash 4.

Ice Climbers: The only thing holding them back was technical limitations, with that no longer being an issue they should have no problem returning.

Snake: Another extremely iconic character and although issues with Konami still exist, I say it's worth it to get this fan favourite back.

Pokemon Trainer: They're the best representation for the Pokemon series and Charizard being solo still annoys me, plus those technical limitations are gone too.

Cut characters:

Roy: I just don't think he's important enough compared to the other Fire Emblem characters of which I think there are too many.

Doctor Mario: He feels worthless, he's literally Mario in a Doctor's coat, I can't justify him being in at all.

I would keep :4cloud:and cut :4bayonetta:. Cloud because he's from a different third party (representing Square Enix) Although Bayonetta is also from Sega, and we already have Sonic so yeah.... Also some indie characters should get representation like Shantae and Shovel Knight or characters on the Smash ballot that didn't make it but still got a ton of entries.
 
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I would keep :4cloud:and cut :4bayonetta:. Cloud because he's from a different third party (representing Square Enix) Although Bayonetta is also from Sega, and we already have Sonic so yeah.... Also some indie characters should get representation like Shantae, Shovel Knight, and Undertale (Please don't kill me) They're all just as iconic.
Indie representation is not likely, which is the main reason why I removed Shovel Knight from my own list.
I'd love to see Shovel Knight and Sans in Smash, but that's probably not gonna happen anytime soon.
Also, by that logic, shouldn't you cut Ryu as well?
 
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I would keep :4cloud:and cut :4bayonetta:. Cloud because he's from a different third party (representing Square Enix) Although Bayonetta is also from Sega, and we already have Sonic so yeah.... Also some indie characters should get representation like Shantae and Shovel Knight or characters on the Smash ballot that didn't make it but still got a ton of entries.
Bayonetta was voted by fans, removing her doesn't make sense. You can't rep indies, indie isn't a genre, they're all completely different games by completely different developers, not many of them I find to be deserving enough anyway.
 
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New characters:


Dixie Kong:
She's easily the next in line for a new DK rep, she's important, relevant and unique all in one and she could be extremely fun with a hair-based moveset making her a grappler type character almost that relies on throws.

King K. Rool: The main villain of the DK series makes a lot of sense, plus we need more villain and more heavyweights too, it's a win-win situation. He'd also have a pretty unique moveset with a bunch of crazy gadgets at his disposal.

Impa: One of the few reoccurring characters in the Zelda series with a lot of potential to be a unique character, she doesn't have too much but an agile magic user isn't something we have right now.

Ridley: Once again, more villains and more heavyweights, win-win. He would also be a very unique fighter with his tail, claws, teeth and even wings all at his disposal.

Medusa: Another villain and another classic villain too as the main antagonist of the first Kid Icarus which I think makes her somewhat iconic. She'd also be a fun fighter and could be the first female heavyweight (Unless Samus counts) which would be nice to see a bit of diversity in that regard. She has her staff and a bunch of attacks which could come straight from uprising like lasers and poisonous gas and tons more that could easily translate into a moveset.

Bandana Dee: The dee is next in line for a new Kirby character with a unique spear based playstyle which would be interesting to see, he'd also be very projectile heavy.

Takamaru: Upgrading from his assist trophy role in Smash 4 Takamaru makes a very unique fighter with his Katana with lighting quick attacks where he unsheathes and sheaths his blade with every swing.

Krystal: Krystal brings a unique Bojutsu fighting style with her attacks, combine that with her elemental attacks and she can be a very unique fighter, Many of her attacks could come straight from Adventures too so coming up with a moveset wouldn't be hard and with a semi-confirmed future she could very well get in.

Fiora: With her dual blades, drones and general agility, Fiora would be a very fun character, with a tension mechanic straight from her games and a variety of arts at her disposal, once again, a moveset isn't hard. Plus with recent appearances like Project X Zone 2 Fiora could very well keep showing up.

Elma: The (practically) main character of the recent Xenoblade Chronicles X makes a lot of sense to show up and with her dual blades and dual guns that she can switch between at will she has good reason. Plus a sequel is only a matter of time at this point.

Isaac: The main character of the the Golden Sun series of games, although not exactly relevant the franchise should still be represented and Isaac would be a fun character with his earth based Psynergy attacks.

Chibi-Robo: Using his play as a makeshift whip, Chibi-Robo would be a very fun character however his future as of right now is unknown, regardless the series should be represented.

Inkling: Splatoon was a smash hit and Inklings have a lot of potential to be unique characters with a variety of weapons including guns, rollers, snipers, a bunch of different bombs, a wall of ink and so much more. Add in a territorial ink mechanic which allows them to swim across the map in seconds and a few moves from the mii gunners and you have a very unique character.

Knuckles: The rival to Sonic and one of Sega's most iconic characters, Knuckles does make some sense being a brawler. He'd have a mix of power and speed and potential unique mechanics like gliding, digging and climbing on walls which could easily make him a unique character.

Rayman: Another icon of the gaming industry, with his plethora of moveset potential and the decent relationship between Nintendo and Ubisoft I don't think he's too out there at all, plus he represents one of the biggest companies in the industry right now.

Lara Croft: She's easily one of the most iconic gaming characters to exist right now so she makes sense to add, especially if they wanted to appeal to western fans too. With athleticism and gunplay Lara could make a very fun and unique character and given Nintendo and Square's recent relationship them getting a second character isn't too far fetched, plus who knows? Maybe we could get Tomb Raider games on the NX.

Returning characters:

Wolf: Wolf is a fan favourite and given his importance to the Star Fox games it's mind boggling why he isn't in Smash 4.

Ice Climbers: The only thing holding them back was technical limitations, with that no longer being an issue they should have no problem returning.

Snake: Another extremely iconic character and although issues with Konami still exist, I say it's worth it to get this fan favourite back.

Pokemon Trainer: They're the best representation for the Pokemon series and Charizard being solo still annoys me, plus those technical limitations are gone too.

Cut characters:

Roy: I just don't think he's important enough compared to the other Fire Emblem characters of which I think there are too many.

Doctor Mario: He feels worthless, he's literally Mario in a Doctor's coat, I can't justify him being in at all.
While I appreciate your Xenoblade enthusiasm, I think getting 2 newcomers might be a bit far-fetched, especially with Xenoblade X being likely to be old news at the time Smash 5 comes out (and yes, I do know there's a rumor about a sequel to X).

Other than that, I do like it, and kudos for adding Lara Croft.
 

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While I appreciate your Xenoblade enthusiasm, I think getting 2 newcomers might be a bit far-fetched, especially with Xenoblade X being likely to be old news at the time Smash 5 comes out (and yes, I do know there's a rumor about a sequel to X).

Other than that, I do like it, and kudos for adding Lara Croft.
Honestly that's just bias getting in the way, there's no way in hell that'd ever happen. Plus my thought process was that she'd be like the Roy to Elma's Marth.
 
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Pretty simple, but I would just make it a massive tribute to past games, along with people wanted in the smash ballot, like Shovel Knight and Shantae.
All previous fighters and veterans, like wolf and ice climbers is what I meant by a tribute.
And I'd fix pichu.

Because that just needs to be done.
 

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Pretty simple, but I would just make it a massive tribute to past games, along with people wanted in the smash ballot, like Shovel Knight and Shantae.
All previous fighters and veterans, like wolf and ice climbers is what I meant by a tribute.
And I'd fix pichu.

Because that just needs to be done.
I wouldn't really say that Shovel Knight and Shantae were highly wanted in the ballot but whatever
 

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New characters:


Dixie Kong:
She's easily the next in line for a new DK rep, she's important, relevant and unique all in one and she could be extremely fun with a hair-based moveset making her a grappler type character almost that relies on throws.

King K. Rool: The main villain of the DK series makes a lot of sense, plus we need more villain and more heavyweights too, it's a win-win situation. He'd also have a pretty unique moveset with a bunch of crazy gadgets at his disposal.

Impa: One of the few reoccurring characters in the Zelda series with a lot of potential to be a unique character, she doesn't have too much but an agile magic user isn't something we have right now.

Ridley: Once again, more villains and more heavyweights, win-win. He would also be a very unique fighter with his tail, claws, teeth and even wings all at his disposal.

Medusa: Another villain and another classic villain too as the main antagonist of the first Kid Icarus which I think makes her somewhat iconic. She'd also be a fun fighter and could be the first female heavyweight (Unless Samus counts) which would be nice to see a bit of diversity in that regard. She has her staff and a bunch of attacks which could come straight from uprising like lasers and poisonous gas and tons more that could easily translate into a moveset.

Bandana Dee: The dee is next in line for a new Kirby character with a unique spear based playstyle which would be interesting to see, he'd also be very projectile heavy.

Takamaru: Upgrading from his assist trophy role in Smash 4 Takamaru makes a very unique fighter with his Katana with lighting quick attacks where he unsheathes and sheaths his blade with every swing.

Krystal: Krystal brings a unique Bojutsu fighting style with her attacks, combine that with her elemental attacks and she can be a very unique fighter, Many of her attacks could come straight from Adventures too so coming up with a moveset wouldn't be hard and with a semi-confirmed future she could very well get in.

Fiora: With her dual blades, drones and general agility, Fiora would be a very fun character, with a tension mechanic straight from her games and a variety of arts at her disposal, once again, a moveset isn't hard. Plus with recent appearances like Project X Zone 2 Fiora could very well keep showing up, she's still one of the least likely characters on this whole thing though.

Elma: The (practically) main character of the recent Xenoblade Chronicles X makes a lot of sense to show up and with her dual blades and dual guns that she can switch between at will she has good reason. Plus a sequel is only a matter of time at this point.

Isaac: The main character of the the Golden Sun series of games, although not exactly relevant the franchise should still be represented and Isaac would be a fun character with his earth based Psynergy attacks.

Chibi-Robo: Using his play as a makeshift whip, Chibi-Robo would be a very fun character however his future as of right now is unknown, regardless the series should be represented.

Inkling: Splatoon was a smash hit and Inklings have a lot of potential to be unique characters with a variety of weapons including guns, rollers, snipers, a bunch of different bombs, a wall of ink and so much more. Add in a territorial ink mechanic which allows them to swim across the map in seconds and a few moves from the mii gunners and you have a very unique character.

Knuckles: The rival to Sonic and one of Sega's most iconic characters, Knuckles does make some sense being a brawler. He'd have a mix of power and speed and potential unique mechanics like gliding, digging and climbing on walls which could easily make him a unique character.

Rayman: Another icon of the gaming industry, with his plethora of moveset potential and the decent relationship between Nintendo and Ubisoft I don't think he's too out there at all, plus he represents one of the biggest companies in the industry right now.

Lara Croft: She's easily one of the most iconic gaming characters to exist right now so she makes sense to add, especially if they wanted to appeal to western fans too. With athleticism and gunplay Lara could make a very fun and unique character and given Nintendo and Square's recent relationship them getting a second character isn't too far fetched, plus who knows? Maybe we could get Tomb Raider games on the NX.

Returning characters:

Wolf: Wolf is a fan favourite and given his importance to the Star Fox games it's mind boggling why he isn't in Smash 4.

Ice Climbers: The only thing holding them back was technical limitations, with that no longer being an issue they should have no problem returning.

Snake: Another extremely iconic character and although issues with Konami still exist, I say it's worth it to get this fan favourite back.

Pokemon Trainer: They're the best representation for the Pokemon series and Charizard being solo still annoys me, plus those technical limitations are gone too.

Cut characters:

Roy: I just don't think he's important enough compared to the other Fire Emblem characters of which I think there are too many.

Doctor Mario: He feels worthless, he's literally Mario in a Doctor's coat, I can't justify him being in at all.
you forgot about one character :4mii:
 

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*cracks knuckles* Hoo boy, here we go.

  • Mario
  • Donkey Kong
  • Link
  • Samus
  • Pikachu
  • Kirby
  • Yoshi
  • Fox
  • Luigi
  • Jigglypuff
  • Captain Falcon
  • Ness

  • Bowser
  • Falco
  • Ganondorf, but reworked to be more wizardly (yet familiar)
  • Ice Climbers
  • Marth
  • Mewtwo
  • Peach
  • Roy
  • Zelda
  • Sheik
  • Mr. Game and Watch

  • Diddy Kong (with Dixie alts)
  • Ike
  • Dedede
  • Lucas
  • Lucario
  • Meta Knight
  • Olimar
  • Pit
  • Charizard
  • Ivysaur
  • R.O.B.
  • Sonic
  • Toon Link
  • Wario
  • Wolf
  • Zero Suit Samus

  • Bowser Jr.
  • Corrin
  • Duck Hunt
  • Greninja
  • Little Mac
  • Mega Man
  • Mii Brawler
  • Mii Swordfighter
  • Mii Gunner
  • Pac-Man
  • Palutena
  • Robin
  • Rosalina
  • Shulk
  • Villager
  • Wii Fit Trainer

Before I get to my newcomers, let's get to my cuts and my reasonings:
  • Dr. Mario: he'd become an alt to Mario, whom receives his Tornado back as his default special and has his dAir changed back as well (but FLUDD will be a custom special for all five people ever who liked it)
  • Pichu: terrible, overly gimmicky clone, doesn't add anything to the otherwise varied lineup of Pokemon
  • Young Link: redundant due to Toon Link being a spiritual successor, but may possibly be an alt costume
  • Squirtle: like Pichu, wouldn't add much to the existing Pokemon lineup due to a water presence from Greninja
  • Snake: Konami bull****tery aside, Nintendo-ism took away too much from him
  • Bayonetta: unfitting as hell, and is a bit of a limbo where giving her a fitting toolset makes her too stronk whilst taking it away undermines her character, so she's fairly "damned if you do/damned if you don't"
  • Dark Pit: ****ing duh. Alt costume.
  • Lucina: ditto above. Besides, Robin is plenty representation for Awakening.
  • Ryu: Capcom doesn't need two reps, and his special snowflake gameplay is fidgety as hell
  • Cloud: no real significance in the Nintendo universe

And now:
  • Midna [+ Wolf Link]: Smash desperately needs new Zelda reps (if you consider Toon Link as Young Link 2.0, there hasn't been a true Zelda newcomer since Melee), and of the game-specific Zelda characters, she's one of the most iconic and fitting for this role
  • Inkling: a character that actually deserves to get in as an advertising ploy (or as a callback if Nintendo hasn't touched Splatoon by the time 5mash rolls around), Inkling would present great potential for creative (and possibly campy) gameplay
  • King K. Rool: yep, typical choice here. But this really needed to happen, Donkey Kong is sorely lacking in reps, and I think an iconic villain deserves priority here
  • Funky Kong: here's one of my "out of left field" choices; he'd be a semi-clone of both DK and Diddy; he'd have Chunky's Pineapple Launcher a ala the Peanut Popgun and a jetpack like Diddy, but he'd be a heavy character like Donkey
  • Samurai Goroh: F-Zero love, c'mon! Another iconic character of the series, using his katana with slow but deliberate and powerful swings, with movement slower and a touch slippier than Falcon
  • whatever popular character from the newest Fire Emblem game comes out around 5mash's release, and that's it for FE reps because **** having FE outnumber a bunch of more deserving franchises
  • Mii Whipper: a new Mii archetype, the Whipper utilizes a long-range whip for most attacks, accompanied by various tools such as throwing knives and boomerangs (basically, it's a Castlevania character but without the lawsuits)
  • Excite Biker: yay for more NES love! he rides around on his bike on most occasions, being almost like Wario on his bike (but not as dramatically fast or with as much stopping momentum), but what he lacks in precision and traction he makes up for with great strength (and some of his Customs will be taken from Mach Rider)
  • Terra Branford: a more Nintendo-significant Final Fantasy character and with greater emphasis on magic than swordplay
  • Sami (Advance Wars): basically, she's a stand-in for Snake
Alright, you want my total left field characters? Here we go, it's about to get f**king weird:
  • Kensuke Kimachi: y'know, from 1080 Snowboarding! Uses a lot of snowboarding tricks and ice attacks in his arsenal
  • Deon/Max/Jack: from an extremely obscure SNES game ("Marvelous!") where you switch between three kids, each with different abilities and items to use; the customs would reflect different abilities and items, and costumes would be different alts for each kid
 

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So it's been roughly one year since I made my last post on this thread, and since then we've come through a fair number of additions to the roster, and I felt it might be a good time to redo my roster. Though honestly not by much, just a few tidbits here and there. (Here is my last post )

STARTING VETERANS from Sm4sh:
:4mario::4luigi::4peach::4bowser:,:4dk::4diddy:,:4link::4zelda::4ganondorf:
(revamped moveset),:4samus:,:4yoshi:,:4kirby::4dedede::4metaknight:,:4fox:,:4pikachu::4charizard::4lucario:,:4ness:,:4falcon:,:4marth::4myfriends::4robinf:,:4pit::4palutena:,:4wario:,:4olimar:,:4villager:,:4littlemac:,:4shulk:,:4duckhunt:,:4sonic:,:4megaman:,:4pacman:,:4cloud:,:4bayonetta:,:4mii: =37 (+2)
SECRET VETERANS from Sm4sh:
:rosalina::4bowserjr:
,:4tlink::4sheik:,:4zss:,:4falco:,:4jigglypuff::4greninja::4mewtwo:,:4lucas:,:4feroy::4corrinf:,:4gaw:,:4rob:,:4wiifit:,:4ryu: =16
VETERANS: 53 (+2)
Yeeeeeaaaaaaahhh...I really don't have much to say in this part. Almost all the characters will be returning, and most of the one's that don't return (the obvious clones) will return to their original roles as alternate costumes. I had a bit of a struggle on deciding if Roy should be cut or not, but I ended up keeping him as I think he has become a Falco to Marth, and retains a fair amount of originality. Also, Robin and Corrin now have their female counterparts as the default, because the other three are all male. And if there's anyone wondering why Ryu is now an unlockable, that is only because I felt it would be more fun if Ryu was an unlockable with a "challenger aproaches" screen. Nothing of any substance.

Issac: Again in my roster, the protagonist of the Golden Sun franchise is back. With a once pretty popular IP (I believe it is the last million-seller not in Smash yet, isn't it?) and room for moveset potential, I think he could turn out to be a pleasing and fun character.

Ray: Also returning from my previous post. The Custom Robo franchise has ended up being pretty dormant these past few years, but there's still an acceptable fanbase for it, particularly in Japan. With a healthy selection of weapons, I believe Ray(the robo of the protagonist, the starter) can fill in a niche of projectile heavy characters, which is currently only inhabited by Mega Man, Mii Gunner and somewhat Samus.

Inkling: Still a no-brainer. Like we all thought it to be, Splatoon has become the next big thing for Nintendo; In japan, it has been the first new IP from a home console to hit mil sales since Wii Sports. Also unlike last time, I've actually had experience in this game, and I see heaps and heaps of potential in the Ink mechanic. Unlike Sm4sh, and hardware limitations will likely be gone too, so there really isn't any reason in particular for the Squids to not join. Oh yeah, female.

Ridley: I know this choice is a controvercial one, but I don't think it would be that big of a problem if Ridley joins the fight. The only thing that is really standing in his way is the size debate, but that's something that Sakurai and other people put up. This is my roster, and I think a resized Ridley really won't be a mistake. And besides, he'd still be one of the bigger characters. Just not as big as canon.

Krystal: Yeah she isn't popping up in the next game, but so what? Krystal is a character that has a lot of potential in the Star Fox canon, and I think she is the same moveset wise in Smash. It'd also give Star Fox a character who isn't based on Fox for once. First she needs to be in the sequel though.

Takamaru: The new "retro" rep of this iteration. Sure he's another sword user, but I'm one of the people that never really found that a problem, so eh. Besides, I'm going to be putting a heavy focus on the ninja aspect of him as well. So in a way he's like Robin. Anyway, there really hasn't been a style like that of a Samurai, so I really don't see Takamaru just being unoriginal. I think he can be made to be fairly interesting.

Chibi-robo: Oh look, someone who wasn't on my old roster. After the release of Zip-Lash, I slowly became interested in why Nintendo was trying to make him more popular, with side-scrolling and amiibos and whatnot. After some research, I actually think he'd be a pretty decent addition to the roster. Even has a decent amount of history with 5 games, I'm a bit shocked honestly that he wasn't even an assist in Sm4sh. Besides, Zip-Lash is just asking to be put in to Smash.

Layton: Finally for the third parties. Every third party character so far has been a major contribution to gaming as a whole(Pac, Ryu, Cloud) or a very popular character in general (Mega Man, Bayo). I think Layton qualifies as a decent addition in both sides. Perhaps one of the most popular characters born from the DS era, his origins as a puzzle game can allow for fun and unique movesets. Level-5 is also a third party heavily connected with Nintendo, so that's also a plus.

Slime: The other Square RPG that isn't FF, I think Dragon Quest has just as much influence on JRPGs as it's brother. I've been thinking about Slime's inclusion for a while, and my opinion hasn't changed. He represents the core of the genre, and heavily ties with Nintendo too. Also, his jello body can provide for some interesting movesets.

Toad: The most famous Mario character not in Smash yet. Has access to nearly everything Mario has, especially those from a more recent age.

Vaati: This is the one that bias really takes it's place. I feel Vaati is a character with loads of potential both within and outside of LoZ, and thus I felt it was natural that he should be the sixth rep. I considered Impa as well, but right now she shares too much similiarities with Sheik.

Waddle Dee: The fourth Kirby rep, nuff said. The usage of spears is nice.

K.Rool: I don't want to even talk about this one.

Marshal: Rhythm Heaven needs a rep at one point. I say Sm5sh would be a perfect time, and I chose to pick the "default"-ish character.

Andy: You remember Advance Wars? Yeah, that Fire Emblem-like franchise that's actually senior to FE. With the original Famicom Wars being released way back in 1988, the Wars IP is one Nintendo/Intelligent Systems' oldest franchises. It lived a long life, with the final entry landing on the DS. Though the franchise has been put to hibernation after minimal support in Japan, there are many fans around the globe and IS has said that they're looking for a way to revive it (correct me if I'm wrong). When I considered a character for this franchise, I imagined a character who has miniscule tanks and planes that would be "set" across the battlefield and be used correspondantly to each situation (I think there was a name for this type of fighter?). I was interested, so I have a Wars character here right now. The choice of Andy is simply to him being the main character for his game.

Black Shadow: So people might have noticed the "revamped" next to Ganondorf above. That's because I'm giving the old moveset to Black Shadow, Falcon's arch-nemesis. The old Ganon moveset is a fun one to use despite it being different from canon, so while I intended to give Ganon a new moveset I wanted to be able to use the old one. So I gave it to BS. Also, a Wakamoto voice in Smash=pure win. For Japanese audiences anyway. On a more serious note, F-ZERO has been limited to only one rep throughtout Smash history, yet there's an entire moveset just there under the wrong guy. Two birds killed with one stone, why shouldn't Black Shadow join?

Viridi: Technically the "replacement" for Dark Pit, though he'll remain as an alt. I just think that Viridi was such a good character in KI:U, and limiting her to just secondary roles seems like a bit of a waste. I imagine her as the Wolf to Palutena, with some similarities but a truckload of differences. It looks like she'll be a big part of the next KI game (If it ever happens) too, so there's that.

Sylux: Yes, I'm putting both Ridley AND Sylux. One reason for his inclusion is simply that I thought Metroid warrants a fourth character. The second is that he is going to be very relevant later on. The third is that he represents a different side to Metroid than that of the other three, coming from the Prime series and all. Moveset potential ain't half bad either.

Hikari & Donbe: The other "retro" rep, a character in the vein of G&W and ROB. Their game originates from a system called the Disk System, an add-on of the NES/Famicom, and is also the home to a huge number of major franchises. Zelda, Metroid, Castlevania...I wanted someone who could represent it, and Hikari & Donbe seemed like the best choice. They're really unique compared to the rest of the cast. Text-adventure, Japanese culture at its finest, a duo character. Only the Inklings have a superior edge in the originality chart.

Veterans:Ice Climbers are returning, with the 3DS no longer keeping them out. They'll be unlockable though, I want players to find out by themselves. Wolf is also making his awaited return from Brawl, with a new FS to boot. I also wish to push for Snake' return. I think he does has the popularity and importance of the other third parties. And really, the whole Nintendo relevance argument is a thing of the past with Cloud. As long as he had an appearance on a Nintendo console, he's fine. Actually he has a Nintendo exclusive remake. Much more than Cloud ever had.


NEWCOMERS: 19 (+3)
Wow I added alot.
I also wish to have a number of alts to this game. The list is as follows:
Lucina (Marth), Dark Pit (Pit), Impa (Shiek), Ninten (Ness), Alph (Olimar), Koopalings (Bowser Jr.), Octolings (Inklings), Daisy (Peach), Felix (Isaac), and the second gender of some characters (Robin, Wii Fit, Villager etc.) =15 Alts

So that's 56 vets, 19 newcomers and 15 alts. That turns into a huge roster of 75 characters. A bit over the limit, but oh well.
 

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*cracks knuckles* Hoo boy, here we go.

  • Mario
  • Donkey Kong
  • Link
  • Samus
  • Pikachu
  • Kirby
  • Yoshi
  • Fox
  • Luigi
  • Jigglypuff
  • Captain Falcon
  • Ness

  • Bowser
  • Falco
  • Ganondorf, but reworked to be more wizardly (yet familiar)
  • Ice Climbers
  • Marth
  • Mewtwo
  • Peach
  • Roy
  • Zelda
  • Sheik
  • Mr. Game and Watch

  • Diddy Kong (with Dixie alts)
  • Ike
  • Dedede
  • Lucas
  • Lucario
  • Meta Knight
  • Olimar
  • Pit
  • Charizard
  • Ivysaur
  • R.O.B.
  • Sonic
  • Toon Link
  • Wario
  • Wolf
  • Zero Suit Samus

  • Bowser Jr.
  • Corrin
  • Duck Hunt
  • Greninja
  • Little Mac
  • Mega Man
  • Mii Brawler
  • Mii Swordfighter
  • Mii Gunner
  • Pac-Man
  • Palutena
  • Robin
  • Rosalina
  • Shulk
  • Villager
  • Wii Fit Trainer

Before I get to my newcomers, let's get to my cuts and my reasonings:
  • Dr. Mario: he'd become an alt to Mario, whom receives his Tornado back as his default special and has his dAir changed back as well (but FLUDD will be a custom special for all five people ever who liked it)
  • Pichu: terrible, overly gimmicky clone, doesn't add anything to the otherwise varied lineup of Pokemon
  • Young Link: redundant due to Toon Link being a spiritual successor, but may possibly be an alt costume
  • Squirtle: like Pichu, wouldn't add much to the existing Pokemon lineup due to a water presence from Greninja
  • Snake: Konami bull****tery aside, Nintendo-ism took away too much from him
  • Bayonetta: unfitting as hell, and is a bit of a limbo where giving her a fitting toolset makes her too stronk whilst taking it away undermines her character, so she's fairly "damned if you do/damned if you don't"
  • Dark Pit: ****ing duh. Alt costume.
  • Lucina: ditto above. Besides, Robin is plenty representation for Awakening.
  • Ryu: Capcom doesn't need two reps, and his special snowflake gameplay is fidgety as hell
  • Cloud: no real significance in the Nintendo universe

And now:
  • Midna [+ Wolf Link]: Smash desperately needs new Zelda reps (if you consider Toon Link as Young Link 2.0, there hasn't been a true Zelda newcomer since Melee), and of the game-specific Zelda characters, she's one of the most iconic and fitting for this role
  • Inkling: a character that actually deserves to get in as an advertising ploy (or as a callback if Nintendo hasn't touched Splatoon by the time 5mash rolls around), Inkling would present great potential for creative (and possibly campy) gameplay
  • King K. Rool: yep, typical choice here. But this really needed to happen, Donkey Kong is sorely lacking in reps, and I think an iconic villain deserves priority here
  • Funky Kong: here's one of my "out of left field" choices; he'd be a semi-clone of both DK and Diddy; he'd have Chunky's Pineapple Launcher a ala the Peanut Popgun and a jetpack like Diddy, but he'd be a heavy character like Donkey
  • Samurai Goroh: F-Zero love, c'mon! Another iconic character of the series, using his katana with slow but deliberate and powerful swings, with movement slower and a touch slippier than Falcon
  • whatever popular character from the newest Fire Emblem game comes out around 5mash's release, and that's it for FE reps because **** having FE outnumber a bunch of more deserving franchises
  • Mii Whipper: a new Mii archetype, the Whipper utilizes a long-range whip for most attacks, accompanied by various tools such as throwing knives and boomerangs (basically, it's a Castlevania character but without the lawsuits)
  • Excite Biker: yay for more NES love! he rides around on his bike on most occasions, being almost like Wario on his bike (but not as dramatically fast or with as much stopping momentum), but what he lacks in precision and traction he makes up for with great strength (and some of his Customs will be taken from Mach Rider)
  • Terra Branford: a more Nintendo-significant Final Fantasy character and with greater emphasis on magic than swordplay
  • Sami (Advance Wars): basically, she's a stand-in for Snake
Alright, you want my total left field characters? Here we go, it's about to get f**king weird:
  • Kensuke Kimachi: y'know, from 1080 Snowboarding! Uses a lot of snowboarding tricks and ice attacks in his arsenal
  • Deon/Max/Jack: from an extremely obscure SNES game ("Marvelous!") where you switch between three kids, each with different abilities and items to use; the customs would reflect different abilities and items, and costumes would be different alts for each kid
which of the characters you choose should be a starter (Default)?
which of the characters you choose should be locked (Unlockable)?
 

wariohasdiabetes

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*cracks knuckles* Hoo boy, here we go.

  • Mario
  • Donkey Kong
  • Link
  • Samus
  • Pikachu
  • Kirby
  • Yoshi
  • Fox
  • Luigi
  • Jigglypuff
  • Captain Falcon
  • Ness

  • Bowser
  • Falco
  • Ganondorf, but reworked to be more wizardly (yet familiar)
  • Ice Climbers
  • Marth
  • Mewtwo
  • Peach
  • Roy
  • Zelda
  • Sheik
  • Mr. Game and Watch

  • Diddy Kong (with Dixie alts)
  • Ike
  • Dedede
  • Lucas
  • Lucario
  • Meta Knight
  • Olimar
  • Pit
  • Charizard
  • Ivysaur
  • R.O.B.
  • Sonic
  • Toon Link
  • Wario
  • Wolf
  • Zero Suit Samus

  • Bowser Jr.
  • Corrin
  • Duck Hunt
  • Greninja
  • Little Mac
  • Mega Man
  • Mii Brawler
  • Mii Swordfighter
  • Mii Gunner
  • Pac-Man
  • Palutena
  • Robin
  • Rosalina
  • Shulk
  • Villager
  • Wii Fit Trainer

Before I get to my newcomers, let's get to my cuts and my reasonings:
  • Dr. Mario: he'd become an alt to Mario, whom receives his Tornado back as his default special and has his dAir changed back as well (but FLUDD will be a custom special for all five people ever who liked it)
  • Pichu: terrible, overly gimmicky clone, doesn't add anything to the otherwise varied lineup of Pokemon
  • Young Link: redundant due to Toon Link being a spiritual successor, but may possibly be an alt costume
  • Squirtle: like Pichu, wouldn't add much to the existing Pokemon lineup due to a water presence from Greninja
  • Snake: Konami bull****tery aside, Nintendo-ism took away too much from him
  • Bayonetta: unfitting as hell, and is a bit of a limbo where giving her a fitting toolset makes her too stronk whilst taking it away undermines her character, so she's fairly "damned if you do/damned if you don't"
  • Dark Pit: ****ing duh. Alt costume.
  • Lucina: ditto above. Besides, Robin is plenty representation for Awakening.
  • Ryu: Capcom doesn't need two reps, and his special snowflake gameplay is fidgety as hell
  • Cloud: no real significance in the Nintendo universe

And now:
  • Midna [+ Wolf Link]: Smash desperately needs new Zelda reps (if you consider Toon Link as Young Link 2.0, there hasn't been a true Zelda newcomer since Melee), and of the game-specific Zelda characters, she's one of the most iconic and fitting for this role
  • Inkling: a character that actually deserves to get in as an advertising ploy (or as a callback if Nintendo hasn't touched Splatoon by the time 5mash rolls around), Inkling would present great potential for creative (and possibly campy) gameplay
  • King K. Rool: yep, typical choice here. But this really needed to happen, Donkey Kong is sorely lacking in reps, and I think an iconic villain deserves priority here
  • Funky Kong: here's one of my "out of left field" choices; he'd be a semi-clone of both DK and Diddy; he'd have Chunky's Pineapple Launcher a ala the Peanut Popgun and a jetpack like Diddy, but he'd be a heavy character like Donkey
  • Samurai Goroh: F-Zero love, c'mon! Another iconic character of the series, using his katana with slow but deliberate and powerful swings, with movement slower and a touch slippier than Falcon
  • whatever popular character from the newest Fire Emblem game comes out around 5mash's release, and that's it for FE reps because **** having FE outnumber a bunch of more deserving franchises
  • Mii Whipper: a new Mii archetype, the Whipper utilizes a long-range whip for most attacks, accompanied by various tools such as throwing knives and boomerangs (basically, it's a Castlevania character but without the lawsuits)
  • Excite Biker: yay for more NES love! he rides around on his bike on most occasions, being almost like Wario on his bike (but not as dramatically fast or with as much stopping momentum), but what he lacks in precision and traction he makes up for with great strength (and some of his Customs will be taken from Mach Rider)
  • Terra Branford: a more Nintendo-significant Final Fantasy character and with greater emphasis on magic than swordplay
  • Sami (Advance Wars): basically, she's a stand-in for Snake
Alright, you want my total left field characters? Here we go, it's about to get f**king weird:
  • Kensuke Kimachi: y'know, from 1080 Snowboarding! Uses a lot of snowboarding tricks and ice attacks in his arsenal
  • Deon/Max/Jack: from an extremely obscure SNES game ("Marvelous!") where you switch between three kids, each with different abilities and items to use; the customs would reflect different abilities and items, and costumes would be different alts for each kid
Holly Crap, I Haven't Been On Smash Boards In A Long While, Better Make A Post. Anyways, I Will Talk About Your Newcomers.
1. It Makes Sense Why Wolf Link And Midna Would Get In Because Of The Twilight Princess Remake Plus, They Would Be Our First Unique Zelda Characters Sense Melee.
2. And, Another Character That Would Most Likely Happen! Inkling Would Also Make Sense In An Upcoming Smash Bros Game. I Could See Them Using Many Of The Weapons From Splatoon, And Their Final Smash Could Be The Kraken.
3. All I Can Say Is, Well! Listen Here, While I Make It Clear! I Can't Believe You Can't See What We See Here! A Crocodile, The Superior Species You're Bullocks, Initials B.C. Looking At Your Claws You Could Be One Of My In-Laws! 'Cause You're One Of Us! One Of Us! You're Mean And Green, Scaly Sheen Can't You See You're One Of us? You Walk The Walk, My Brother Lock! Arm In Arm, Together We Rock!
4. Eh, I Guess Funky Kong Could Would As Semi-Clone For Donkey And Diddy It Just, If I See Him One More Time, I'm Going To Get Mario Kart Wii Online Memories *Shivers*
5. I Would Also Like To See Another F-Zero Rep, And Samurai Goroh Would Make A Great Choice But, If They Make Him A Assist Trophy Again, The Spot Should Go To Black Shadow.
6. This Will Also Happen, I Can't Say Much But, All For Who Ever Is In The Next Fire Emblem After Fates.
7. Another Mii Type Would Be Really Cool Especially If They Were Like Simon Belmont.
8. I Would Love If Excite Biker Would Join The Roster, I Could See Him Being On His Roster At All Times This Can't Be Cheap If They Make It So If You Run Into A Fighter, It Doesn't Hurt Them.
9. I See A More Nintendo-Significant Final Fantasy Character Being The Black Mage But, If They Still Have A Final Fantasy Character In The Game, They Will Most Likely Stay With Cloud.
10. I See A Advance Wars Rep Being Andy But Who Will Know When Smash 5 Will Come Out.
11 & 12. I Can't Tell You Because I Haven't Played 1080 Snowboarding Or Marvelous, Which Goes To Show You, That You Picked Two Obscure Characters!
Now What Do I Think About The Roster I Think, You Picked Allot Of Likely Characters To Be in Smash 5, Which is Great! When The Game Is In Development, I See Them Announcing Most Of Your Choices! I Give It A 9/10.
 

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I remember them being wanted... Could be just me. Even then, I was using them as examples

I actually think trailer drake made smash history speculation videos on them and only them.
Not nearly as much as people made them out to be, a lot of people seem to forget that their only popularity comes from north america, I don't think it even released in Japan at all which is where a large portion of the Smash fanbase is. And even then that's only the hardcore video game fans which know about them, their universal appeal isn't really that high.
 
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Not nearly as much as people made them out to be, a lot of people seem to forget that their only popularity comes from north america, I don't think it even released in Japan at all which is where a large portion of the Smash fanbase is. And even then that's only the hardcore video game fans which know about them, their universal appeal isn't really that high.
You mean like the exact same way that Marth and Roy were introduced to westerners by Melee?
 
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Where the game was developed really doesn't make a difference in that sort of matter.
You said it yourself, Japanese are just as into the game as we are.
So as far as I'm concerned, the outcome would be similar.
BUT I DIGRESS.
Can we at least agree that they would be a good fit for the game, requested or not?
Sometimes I'm impressed at how off track we can get on these forums...
 

asia_catdog_blue

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If I was to make a roster, I truly think about who would be worthy of being playable.

There are three things I want form a playable character in a platform fighter. Mobility, Arsenal, and Combat.

Mobility: I'm not just talking about being quick and nimble. The character has to have something that can propel itself anywhere, especially upward. Either a skill(the SMB2 Super Jump, Cammy's Cannon Spike/Thrust Kick), a Power-Up(the S3&K Electric Shield, the Hi-Jump Ability) or an item(Proto Man's Proto Coil, a Jetpack) can work for many. This is primary why I'm having trouble thinking up something for Simon Belmont, and would rather choose Richter Belmont instead.

Arsenal: Of course they have to have something to dish out some major damage(or at least, some trouble like confusion or paralysis). Either weapons, elemental powers, or whatever they can pull out that would make good, workable special moves. This is primarily why most characters from Fighting Games and Beat 'em Ups are hard to work movesets for(as well as the fighters being considered boring. They fight and nothing else), Especially 3D Fighters(Praise the Lord for oddballs like Yoshimitsu).

Combat: Though you can unleash the biggest fire power you want, it wouldn't matter if the enemy is that close up to you ready to pound your face in.I still say you need to have some good form of close range combat for minor moves(weak and strong). It'd be good for setting up combos. Either punches and kicks(Chibi-Robo,Twinbee), scratches, slashing, and clawing(Corrin should be able to do this), or any close range weapon(Farfetch'd's leek, Waddle Doo's sword for "Kirby: Right back At Ya!, even Mappy having a night stick) will work for this situation. This is Primary why thinking up a good moveset for say, anyone from Contra, is extremely difficult.

To give a good example, The titular Legendary(yeah right) Starfy(as well as his baby sister, Starly) has Mobility and Combat down, but he(and she) is(are) lacking in the Arsenal department(I don't want to give them any abilities that alter their appearances)

These three are what matters the most to me. If a character fits all three conditions(as well as having a major appearance on a Nintendo...or SONY System), then they certainly qualify for my roster.
 
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I'm making a new roster (I'm gonna update it ALOT), and I'm considering cutting :4ryu: for :snake: (Although it's probably impossible realistically). Rayman stays because of my own bias.
:4drmario::4lucina::4bayonetta::4cloud::4mii: are still cut regardless.
 
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