If you were in charge of roster picking for an upcoming Smash!!

[wariohasdiabetes]

If I Could Pick One Character From My Roster It Would Be...

 

[Deleted member]

Here's my updated roster,

+Captain Toad
+King K. Rool
+Dixie Kong
+Viridi
+Bandana Dee
+Takamaru
+Isaac
+Inkling
=Ashley
=Tingle
=Zoroark
=Elma
=Fiora
=Chorus Kids
=Arcade Bunny
=Lloyd
-Anna
-Yuuri
-Geno

Overall score: 7/10
Good roster, but the last three drop down the score

 

[Swamp Sensei]

This thread has become a place where like three people show ideas and compete for the...

Best?

This is opinion. There is no right answer...

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Alright listen up, buttercups. Here is the best gosh darn roster that any of you have ever lid eyes on. Here is my roster for 5uper 5ma5h Bro5. 5.

Remove the following:



Reasonings:

Bayoneata/Peach/Paletuna/Rozalina/Zelda/Wii Fit/Lucina/female alt characters: they are girls. This is Smash BROS!!! Not girls, not ladies, not woman folk.
Bowser Jr/Robin/Corin: too complicated. Why does Bowser Jr. need some maybe plebeian turtles? Why does Robin need two ****ing swords and silly colorbook pages to cast bull**** hocus-pocus. Why does Corrin have to transform into a Dragon. If we want a dragon, get the ****ing Dragonborn for Christcakes.. Plus, they have girls in thier costumes.
Cloud/Ryu/Sanic/Pacman/Megaman: get the 3rd parties out to here!! They aren't Nintendo, they aren't for Nintendo fans, and THEY DONT BELONG IN MY SMASH GAME!
Lucas/Lucario/Roy/ToonLink/Ike/Ganondorf/Falco/Emo Pit/Doc Mario: No more clones!
Shulk: no anime chars! They are hentai.
Charizard/Captain a falcon/MGW/ROB/Jigglypuff/Duck Hunt/ninja frog: lol these fharacters are not longer relevant. Or thier are new games out making them useless. Charizard and Jigglypuff are terribad first gens. MGW is just a black blob. Duck Hunt is lame from a lame game no one cares about. And Captain Falcon was cool back in 2002...it's 2016 and the ****ing Olympics are almost here.
Sheik/Mewrwo/Diddy Kong/Lottle Mac: too op so nerf or remove them. But simply nerfing them won't undu their OP'ness so burning it with bleach is the best option.

I say keep the following roster:


Bowser: revert back to Melee. I want the scuttle turtle back.
King Dedede: make smaller. He's too big
DK: no change but maybe that tie should be shorter to be closer to his DKC version.
Fox: slow him down too fast too op faster than Sheik
Kirby: buff him up but remove Inhale. Too confusing and more time can be spent on creating more content as supposed to creating inhale technices.
Link: remove specials and put new ones to reflect newer items. Boomeerang, Hookshot, Bow, and Bombs are so OoT/TP.
Mario: no change except remove FLOOD and put in his tornado.
Luigi: no change
Marth: he can stay put make him less girly and not anime
Metaknight: further nerfs too op. But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Pikachu: further nerfs too op. But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Pit: less anime more manly. Too op. But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Samus: she's ok since. She looks like a dude. Further metallic breast reduction will do well
Villager; remove pocket too op But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Wario: no change
Yoshi: nerf too op But too valuable to burn with bleach.

In addition, I would include the following characters to replace the justifiably cut characters:

1. Wolf (a wolf and a manly one at that)
2. 7th gen Pokemon
3. Inkling (only the boy type)
4. Cross (the new X game but no anime)
5. Taboo
6. Master Hand
7. Crazy Hand
8. Primid
9. Darunia (relevant due to Hyrule Warrior)
10. Dark Samus (can be uncloned)

Rate this roster ******* and get recked

Edited due to adding more recking logic.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Alright listen up, buttercups. Here is the best gosh darn roster that any of you have ever lid eyes on. Here is my roster for 5uper 5ma5h Bro5. 5.

Remove the following:



Reasonings:

Bayoneata/Peach/Paletuna/Rozalina/Zelda/Wii Fit/Lucina/female alt characters: they are girls. This is Smash BROS!!! Not girls, not ladies, not woman folk.
Bowser Jr/Robin/Corin: too complicated. Plus, they have girls in thier costumes.
Cloud/Ryu/Sanic/Pacman/Megaman: get the 3rd parties out to here!!
Lucas/Lucario/Roy/ToonLink/Ike/Ganondorf/Falco/Emo Pit/Doc Mario: No more clones!
Shulk: no anime chars!
Charizard/Captain a falcon/MGW/ROB/Jigglypuff/Duck Hunt/ninja frog: lol these fharacters are not longer relevant. Or thier are new games out making them useless.
Sheik/Mewrwo/Diddy Kong/Lottle Mac: too op so nerf or remove them

I say keep the following roster:


Bowser: revert back to Melee
King Dedede: make smaller
DK: no change
Fox: slow him down too fast too op
Kirby: buff him up but remove Inhale. Too confusing
Link: remove special and put new ones to reflect newer items
Mario: no change
Luigi: no change
Marth: he can stay put make him less girly and not anime
Metaknight: further nerfs too op
Pikachu: further nerfs too op
Pit: less anime more manly. Too op
Samus: she's ok since. She looks like a dude.
Villager; remove pocket too op
Wario: no change
Yoshi: nerf too op

In addition, I would include the following characters to replace the justifiably cut characters:

1. Wolf (a wolf and a manly one at that)
2. 7th gen Pokemon
3. Inkling (only the boy type)
4. Cross (the new X game but no anime)
5. Taboo
6. Master Hand
7. Crazy Hand
8. Primid
9. Darunia (relevant due to Hyrule waaeior)
10. Dark Samus (can be uncloned)

Rate this roster ******* and get recked

You're a different person when you're not a mod.

LMAO!

 

[wariohasdiabetes]

Alright listen up, buttercups. Here is the best gosh darn roster that any of you have ever lid eyes on. Here is my roster for 5uper 5ma5h Bro5. 5.

Remove the following:



Reasonings:

Bayoneata/Peach/Paletuna/Rozalina/Zelda/Wii Fit/Lucina/female alt characters: they are girls. This is Smash BROS!!! Not girls, not ladies, not woman folk.
Bowser Jr/Robin/Corin: too complicated. Plus, they have girls in thier costumes.
Cloud/Ryu/Sanic/Pacman/Megaman: get the 3rd parties out to here!!
Lucas/Lucario/Roy/ToonLink/Ike/Ganondorf/Falco/Emo Pit/Doc Mario: No more clones!
Shulk: no anime chars!
Charizard/Captain a falcon/MGW/ROB/Jigglypuff/Duck Hunt/ninja frog: lol these fharacters are not longer relevant. Or thier are new games out making them useless.
Sheik/Mewrwo/Diddy Kong/Lottle Mac: too op so nerf or remove them

I say keep the following roster:


Bowser: revert back to Melee
King Dedede: make smaller
DK: no change
Fox: slow him down too fast too op
Kirby: buff him up but remove Inhale. Too confusing
Link: remove special and put new ones to reflect newer items
Mario: no change
Luigi: no change
Marth: he can stay put make him less girly and not anime
Metaknight: further nerfs too op
Pikachu: further nerfs too op
Pit: less anime more manly. Too op
Samus: she's ok since. She looks like a dude.
Villager; remove pocket too op
Wario: no change
Yoshi: nerf too op

In addition, I would include the following characters to replace the justifiably cut characters:

1. Wolf (a wolf and a manly one at that)
2. 7th gen Pokemon
3. Inkling (only the boy type)
4. Cross (the new X game but no anime)
5. Taboo
6. Master Hand
7. Crazy Hand
8. Primid
9. Darunia (relevant due to Hyrule waaeior)
10. Dark Samus (can be uncloned)

Rate this roster ******* and get recked

Ironic, Considering Your Smash Bros Wii U Main Is Zero Suit Samus. Dude, If This Argument That We Can't Have Any Female Fighters Just Because Of The Title, It Would Get Samus Out Of The N64 Version. And Why Would We Get Rid Of Sonic, Megaman, And Pac-Man? They All Fit Perfectly In The Nintendo Universe And If We Remove Megaman, He Might Vanish Again, And Get Allot Of Games Canceled All Over Again. And Even Then Some Of Your Replacements Can't Work Because The Hand Trio Are Bosses And Unlike Ridley, They Can't Be Re-sized! I Give Your Roster A Freaking 1/10 Because Of Removing EVERY FEMALE CHARACTER (Except For Samus). Plus, You Removed Allot Of Fun And Unique Fighters. And Take It From Me, I Got A 2/10 For Putting Allot Of Weird Choices Like Fawful And Shake King On My Roster. AT LEAST I DIDN'T REMOVE HALF OF THE ENTIRE ROSTER! Just Don't Take My Response To Seriously Man, Like I Said, My Roster Didn't Allot Of Praise, But I Don't Mind It, This Is A Thread Were You Post Your Own Rosters And Get Scored By 1-10.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

You're a different person when you're not a mod.

LMAO!

Wat wuld u r8 this b8 rooster, m8?

I have my moments. But I get this way when I am drunk...which I was before/am now.

Ironic, Considering Your Smash Bros Wii U Main Is Zero Suit Samus.

I have my reasons for maining her.

Dude, If This Argument That We Can't Have Any Female Fighters Just Because Of The Title, It Would Get Samus Out Of The N64 Version.

As I so brilliantly explained in my original post, Samus looks like a dude under that armor. Simply reducing the size of her metallic breasts further proves this.

And Why Would We Get Rid Of Sonic, Megaman, And Pac-Man?

3rd party characters. In fact, perhaps 2nd party characters should go too to keep this as pure as pure can be.

They All Fit Perfectly In The Nintendo Universe And If We Remove Megaman, He Might Vanish Again, And Get Allot Of Games Canceled All Over Again

Capcom is already seeing to that. it's curtains for him.

. And Even Then Some Of Your Replacements Can't Work Because The Hand Trio Are Bosses And Unlike Ridley, They Can't Be Re-sized!

The size argument is invalid.

I Give Your Roster A Freaking 1/10 Because Of Removing EVERY FEMALE CHARACTER (Except For Samus).

If I was the one grading my own roster, and had to do it honestly, I would grade it a 10/10....and that's not due to bias.

Plus, You Removed Allot Of Fun And Unique Fighters.

We had a silly ninja frog that throws ninja stars. We have a goddesss with teal colored hair who is actually weaker than a freaking dog and a duck duo. We have a blonde boy who swings around what appears to be a giant sewing needle that has mystical powers. Finally, we have a yoga instructor who I am sure is a zombie. Replace unique with just plain "weird".

And Take It From Me, I Got A 2/10 For Putting Allot Of Weird Choices Like Fawful And Shake King On My Roster.

Shake King....is that like a frosty ice cream shake that has a crown on it's head cause, if so, I will put that in my rooster.

AT LEAST I DIDN'T REMOVE HALF OF THE ENTIRE ROSTER! Just Don't Take My Response To Seriously Man, Like I Said, My Roster Didn't Allot Of Praise, But I Don't Mind It, This Is A Thread Were You Post Your Own Rosters And Get Scored By 1-10.

It's pronounced Rooster by the way.

Also, thank you for the heads up. I won't try to take your reply to seriously and I will mind my business when coming around this site. Where's the Sony Playstation All Stars Battle Royale section, by the way? That game is dope.

 

[Deleted member]

Ironic, Considering Your Smash Bros Wii U Main Is Zero Suit Samus. Dude, If This Argument That We Can't Have Any Female Fighters Just Because Of The Title, It Would Get Samus Out Of The N64 Version. And Why Would We Get Rid Of Sonic, Megaman, And Pac-Man? They All Fit Perfectly In The Nintendo Universe And If We Remove Megaman, He Might Vanish Again, And Get Allot Of Games Canceled All Over Again. And Even Then Some Of Your Replacements Can't Work Because The Hand Trio Are Bosses And Unlike Ridley, They Can't Be Re-sized! I Give Your Roster A Freaking 1/10 Because Of Removing EVERY FEMALE CHARACTER (Except For Samus). Plus, You Removed Allot Of Fun And Unique Fighters. And Take It From Me, I Got A 2/10 For Putting Allot Of Weird Choices Like Fawful And Shake King On My Roster. AT LEAST I DIDN'T REMOVE HALF OF THE ENTIRE ROSTER! Just Don't Take My Response To Seriously Man, Like I Said, My Roster Didn't Allot Of Praise, But I Don't Mind It, This Is A Thread Were You Post Your Own Rosters And Get Scored By 1-10.

I think he's trolling. Either way, I wouldn't take it seriously.

 

[NintenZ]

+Captain Toad
+King K. Rool
+Dixie Kong
+Viridi
+Bandana Dee
+Takamaru
+Isaac
+Inkling
=Ashley
=Tingle
=Zoroark
=Elma
=Fiora
=Chorus Kids
=Arcade Bunny
=Lloyd
-Anna
-Yuuri
-Geno

Overall score: 7/10
Good roster, but the last three drop down the score

Thanks for your feedback!

I explained why I added Geno yesterday so I won't go into anymore detail on that.

As for Anna, she is the face of Fire Emblem so I felt it was time for her to join the battle.

As for Yuuri, she's from the Fatal Frame franchise, she's a horror character, and her moveset focuses around a camera. So she's there because she's unique and represents the horror genera.

 

[Deleted member]

Thanks for your feedback!

I explained why I added Geno yesterday so I won't go into anymore detail on that.

As for Anna, she is the face of Fire Emblem so I felt it was time for her to join the battle.

As for Yuuri, she's from the Fatal Frame franchise, she's a horror character, and her moveset focuses around a camera. So she's there because she's unique and represents the horror genera.

No problem.

I understand why you added them, I just personally don't want them. That's just my opinion though

 

[NintenZ]

No problem.

I understand why you added them, I just personally don't want them. That's just my opinion though

Oh, m'kay.

Thanks for your feedback.

 

[NintenZ]

Ironic, Considering Your Smash Bros Wii U Main Is Zero Suit Samus. Dude, If This Argument That We Can't Have Any Female Fighters Just Because Of The Title, It Would Get Samus Out Of The N64 Version. And Why Would We Get Rid Of Sonic, Megaman, And Pac-Man? They All Fit Perfectly In The Nintendo Universe And If We Remove Megaman, He Might Vanish Again, And Get Allot Of Games Canceled All Over Again. And Even Then Some Of Your Replacements Can't Work Because The Hand Trio Are Bosses And Unlike Ridley, They Can't Be Re-sized! I Give Your Roster A Freaking 1/10 Because Of Removing EVERY FEMALE CHARACTER (Except For Samus). Plus, You Removed Allot Of Fun And Unique Fighters. And Take It From Me, I Got A 2/10 For Putting Allot Of Weird Choices Like Fawful And Shake King On My Roster. AT LEAST I DIDN'T REMOVE HALF OF THE ENTIRE ROSTER! Just Don't Take My Response To Seriously Man, Like I Said, My Roster Didn't Allot Of Praise, But I Don't Mind It, This Is A Thread Were You Post Your Own Rosters And Get Scored By 1-10.

Dude... Don't take his roster seriously, it's obviously a joke...

 

[wariohasdiabetes]

@Nintenzilla
@MahBoi2016
Well, I Did Respond Before His ''It's pronounced Rooster by the way'' Post. I Actually Thought That His Roster Wasn't A Joke.

Just Wait When I Fight With Someone When They Say ''MAYONNAISE IS AN INSTRUMENT!''

 

[NintenZ]

@Nintenzilla
@MahBoi2016
Well, I Did Respond Before His ''It's pronounced Rooster by the way'' Post. I Actually Thought That His Roster Wasn't A Joke.

Just Wait When I Fight With Someone When They Say ''MAYONNAISE IS AN INSTRUMENT!''

I was pretty sure it was obvious after he said Shulk was hentei... But I guess not... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Deleted member]

Okay, new roster.

Veterans:

Smash 64:
Mario (Dr. Mario as an alt, with the tornado as a custom move)
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Fox
Yoshi
Kirby
Pikachu
Captain Falcon
Ness
Luigi
Jigglypuff

Melee:
Peach (Daisy as an alt)
Bowser
Ice Climbers
Zelda
Ganondorf
Sheik
Falco
Mr. Game & Watch
Marth (Lucina as an alt)
Roy
Mewtwo
Cuts: Dr. Mario (Demoted to an alt), Young Link, Pichu

Brawl:
Wario
Toon Link
Diddy Kong
Zero Suit Samus
Wolf
Pit (Dark Pit as an alt)
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Ike
R.O.B.
Charizard (As much as I dislike it, I'll keep it... For now)
Lucario
Lucas
Olimar (Alph as an alt)
Sonic
Cuts: Squirtle, Ivysaur, Snake

Sm4sh:
Rosalina & Luma
Bowser Jr. (The Koopalings as alts)
Palutena
Robin
Corrin
Greninja
Duck Hunt
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Little Mac
Shulk
Mega Man
Ryu
Pac-Man
Cuts: Dark Pit (Demoted to an alt), Lucina (Also demoted to an alt), Cloud, Bayonetta, Mii FIghters

Newcomers
Captain Toad (Captain Toadette as an alt)
Impa
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Ridley
Bandana Dee
Sceptile (Placeholder for a new Pokemon, preferably a grass starter)
Isaac
Takamaru
Inkling (Has Gender swap)
Rayman

 

[NintenZ]

Okay, new roster.

Veterans:

Smash 64:
Mario (Dr. Mario as an alt, with the tornado as a custom move)
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Fox
Yoshi
Kirby
Pikachu
Captain Falcon
Ness
Luigi
Jigglypuff

Melee:
Peach (Daisy as an alt)
Bowser
Ice Climbers
Zelda
Ganondorf
Sheik
Falco
Mr. Game & Watch
Marth (Lucina as an alt)
Roy
Mewtwo
Cuts: Dr. Mario (Demoted to an alt), Young Link, Pichu

Brawl:
Wario
Toon Link
Diddy Kong
Zero Suit Samus
Wolf
Pit (Dark Pit as an alt)
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Ike
R.O.B.
Charizard (As much as I dislike it, I'll keep it... For now)
Lucario
Lucas
Olimar (Alph as an alt)
Sonic
Cuts: Squirtle, Ivysaur, Snake

Sm4sh:
Rosalina & Luma
Bowser Jr. (The Koopalings as alts)
Palutena
Robin
Corrin
Greninja
Duck Hunt
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Little Mac
Shulk
Mega Man
Ryu
Pac-Man
Cuts: Dark Pit (Demoted to an alt), Lucina (Also demoted to an alt), Cloud, Bayonetta, Mii FIghters

Newcomers
Captain Toad (Captain Toadette as an alt)
Impa
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Ridley
Bandana Dee
Sceptile or Gardevoir (Not sure which one to choose)
Isaac
Takamaru
Inkling (Has Gender swap)
Rayman

+Captain Toad
+King K. Rool
+Dixie Kong
+Bandana Dee
+Isaac
+Takamaru
=Ridley
=Inkling
=Rayman
=Mii Fighters cut
=Corrin kept
-Impa
-Sceptile or Gardevoir (They won't be that relevant by the time Smash 5 rolls around)
-Dr. Mario, Dark Pit and Lucina being demoted to alts
-Alph as an alt
-Bayonetta cut
-Cloud cut
-No Elma

Your roster gets a 6/10 from me.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Okay, new roster.

Veterans:

Smash 64:
Mario (Dr. Mario as an alt, with the tornado as a custom move)
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Fox
Yoshi
Kirby
Pikachu
Captain Falcon
Ness
Luigi
Jigglypuff

Melee:
Peach (Daisy as an alt)
Bowser
Ice Climbers
Zelda
Ganondorf
Sheik
Falco
Mr. Game & Watch
Marth (Lucina as an alt)
Roy
Mewtwo
Cuts: Dr. Mario (Demoted to an alt), Young Link, Pichu

Brawl:
Wario
Toon Link
Diddy Kong
Zero Suit Samus
Wolf
Pit (Dark Pit as an alt)
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Ike
R.O.B.
Charizard (As much as I dislike it, I'll keep it... For now)
Lucario
Lucas
Olimar (Alph as an alt)
Sonic
Cuts: Squirtle, Ivysaur, Snake

Sm4sh:
Rosalina & Luma
Bowser Jr. (The Koopalings as alts)
Palutena
Robin
Corrin
Greninja
Duck Hunt
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Little Mac
Shulk
Mega Man
Ryu
Pac-Man
Cuts: Dark Pit (Demoted to an alt), Lucina (Also demoted to an alt), Cloud, Bayonetta, Mii FIghters

Newcomers
Captain Toad (Captain Toadette as an alt)
Impa
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Ridley
Bandana Dee
Sceptile or Gardevoir (Not sure which one to choose)
Isaac
Takamaru
Inkling (Has Gender swap)
Rayman

+ Captain Toad
+ Dixie Kong
+ King K. Rool
+ Ridley
+ Bandana Dee
+ Isaac
+ Takamaru
+ Inkling
+ Rayman
+ Wolf
+ Ice Climbers
+ Dark Pit and Lucina demoted to alts
+ Bayonetta cut
+ Charizard kept
= Impa
= Mii Fighters cut
- Cloud cut

Your roster gets 9/10 from me. For the "Sceptile or Gardevoir", I think you should add Sceptile, as we already have Psychic type in Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

+Captain Toad
+King K. Rool
+Dixie Kong
+Bandana Dee
+Isaac
+Takamaru
=Ridley
=Inkling
=Rayman
=Mii Fighters cut
=Corrin kept
-Impa
-Sceptile or Gardevoir (They won't be that relevant by the time Smash 5 rolls around)
-Dr. Mario, Dark Pit and Lucina being demoted to alts
-Alph as an alt
-Bayonetta cut
-Cloud cut
-No Elma

Your roster gets a 6/10 from me.

Thanks for the feedback.
I didn't want to cut Cloud, but at the same time I didn't want to have too many third party characters.
Dunno why I decided to keep Corrin honestly. I ran out of ideas.
Sceptile/Gardevoir is more of a placeĥolder for a new Pokemon. Right now, they seem to fit the best in my eyes, although I could include Chandelure as a bias/joke character.

+ Captain Toad
+ Dixie Kong
+ King K. Rool
+ Ridley
+ Bandana Dee
+ Isaac
+ Takamaru
+ Inkling
+ Rayman
+ Wolf
+ Ice Climbers
+ Dark Pit and Lucina demoted to alts
+ Bayonetta cut
+ Charizard kept
= Impa
= Mii Fighters cut
- Cloud cut

Your roster gets 9/10 from me. For the "Sceptile or Gardevoir", I think you should add Sceptile, as we already have Psychic type in Smash.

Thanks for the feedback!
I'd keep Cloud, but we have too many third party characters IMO, but I'll might bring him back.
Yeah, Sceptile will do for now.

 

[wariohasdiabetes]

Okay, new roster.

Veterans:

Smash 64:
Mario (Dr. Mario as an alt, with the tornado as a custom move)
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Fox
Yoshi
Kirby
Pikachu
Captain Falcon
Ness
Luigi
Jigglypuff

Melee:
Peach (Daisy as an alt)
Bowser
Ice Climbers
Zelda
Ganondorf
Sheik
Falco
Mr. Game & Watch
Marth (Lucina as an alt)
Roy
Mewtwo
Cuts: Dr. Mario (Demoted to an alt), Young Link, Pichu

Brawl:
Wario
Toon Link
Diddy Kong
Zero Suit Samus
Wolf
Pit (Dark Pit as an alt)
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Ike
R.O.B.
Charizard (As much as I dislike it, I'll keep it... For now)
Lucario
Lucas
Olimar (Alph as an alt)
Sonic
Cuts: Squirtle, Ivysaur, Snake

Sm4sh:
Rosalina & Luma
Bowser Jr. (The Koopalings as alts)
Palutena
Robin
Corrin
Greninja
Duck Hunt
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Little Mac
Shulk
Mega Man
Ryu
Pac-Man
Cuts: Dark Pit (Demoted to an alt), Lucina (Also demoted to an alt), Cloud, Bayonetta, Mii FIghters

Newcomers
Captain Toad (Captain Toadette as an alt)
Impa
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Ridley
Bandana Dee
Sceptile (Placeholder for a new Pokemon, preferably a grass starter)
Isaac
Takamaru
Inkling (Has Gender swap)
Rayman

You Know What, This Roster Is Actually Pretty Likely. It's Not To Far Of From Smash Wii U's Roster (Aside From A Few Cuts) And Even Then, The Characters That Were Cut Are Pretty Reasonable So, I Give It 8/10. And Now The Choices That I Do Or Don't Agree With.

+ King K. Rool
+ Ridley
+ Bandana Dee
+ Inkling
+ Rayman
+ Wolf
+ Ice Climbers
+ Dark Pit And Lucina Demoted To Alts.
= Bayonetta Cut
= Charizard Kept
= Captain Toad
= Dixie Kong
= Impa
= Isaac
= Takamaru
- Mii Fighters Being Cut
- Cloud Being Cut

 

[Megadoomer]

Okay, new roster.

Veterans:

Smash 64:
Mario (Dr. Mario as an alt, with the tornado as a custom move)
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Fox
Yoshi
Kirby
Pikachu
Captain Falcon
Ness
Luigi
Jigglypuff

Melee:
Peach (Daisy as an alt)
Bowser
Ice Climbers
Zelda
Ganondorf
Sheik
Falco
Mr. Game & Watch
Marth (Lucina as an alt)
Roy
Mewtwo
Cuts: Dr. Mario (Demoted to an alt), Young Link, Pichu

Brawl:
Wario
Toon Link
Diddy Kong
Zero Suit Samus
Wolf
Pit (Dark Pit as an alt)
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Ike
R.O.B.
Charizard (As much as I dislike it, I'll keep it... For now)
Lucario
Lucas
Olimar (Alph as an alt)
Sonic
Cuts: Squirtle, Ivysaur, Snake

Sm4sh:
Rosalina & Luma
Bowser Jr. (The Koopalings as alts)
Palutena
Robin
Corrin
Greninja
Duck Hunt
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
Little Mac
Shulk
Mega Man
Ryu
Pac-Man
Cuts: Dark Pit (Demoted to an alt), Lucina (Also demoted to an alt), Cloud, Bayonetta, Mii FIghters

Newcomers
Captain Toad (Captain Toadette as an alt)
Impa
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Ridley
Bandana Dee
Sceptile (Placeholder for a new Pokemon, preferably a grass starter)
Isaac
Takamaru
Inkling (Has Gender swap)
Rayman

++++ Captain Toad, K. Rool, Dixie, Ridley, Inklings (in my opinion, the few major Nintendo characters who are currently missing from Smash)
+ Impa (a new Zelda character is long overdue)
+ Bringing back Wolf and Ice Climbers
+ Bandanna Waddle Dee (if we get a fourth Kirby character, he seems like the most important one left)
+ Isaac, Takamaru (as far as new series go, they'd be great choices)
+ Rayman (still find it weird that he was only a trophy)
~ Sceptile (seems like an odd choice, given how long its been since gen. 3, but admittedly, it does make some sense between the remakes and Pokken)
~ the clone trio as alts (Dr. Mario seems different enough from Mario to justify the separation, and Lucina and (as much as I dislike his inclusion) Dark Pit could be changed between instalments, especially since they're popular enough in their own series to justify doing that, but I can see why you would get rid of them as individual characters)
----- cutting Cloud and Bayonetta (they're two of the most popular third party characters currently in the game, one of them being the ballot winner and owned by the same company as Sonic, and the other being the face of JRPGs)
-- cutting Snake (I get that he didn't make it into this game, but he's still one of the most missed characters by far)
- lack of new series (there's only four; I figure it's possible to include a few others)
- Elma from Xenoblade Chronicles X seems like a fairly noteworthy absence
- cutting Miis (they're a fairly noteworthy part of Nintendo by this point)

All in all, I'd give it a 7/10 - my biggest issue by far is the third party cuts, and I feel like more new series could be added. (for example - the Wonderful 101, Advance Wars, Custom Robo, or a second series from Namco-Bandai (Tekken? Digimon? Tales?) or Square-Enix (Dragon Quest? Tomb Raider? Chrono Trigger?))

 

[Deleted member]

++++ Captain Toad, K. Rool, Dixie, Ridley, Inklings (in my opinion, the few major Nintendo characters who are currently missing from Smash)
+ Impa (a new Zelda character is long overdue)
+ Bringing back Wolf and Ice Climbers
+ Bandanna Waddle Dee (if we get a fourth Kirby character, he seems like the most important one left)
+ Isaac, Takamaru (as far as new series go, they'd be great choices)
+ Rayman (still find it weird that he was only a trophy)
~ Sceptile (seems like an odd choice, given how long its been since gen. 3, but admittedly, it does make some sense between the remakes and Pokken)
~ the clone trio as alts (Dr. Mario seems different enough from Mario to justify the separation, and Lucina and (as much as I dislike his inclusion) Dark Pit could be changed between instalments, especially since they're popular enough in their own series to justify doing that, but I can see why you would get rid of them as individual characters)
----- cutting Cloud and Bayonetta (they're two of the most popular third party characters currently in the game, one of them being the ballot winner and owned by the same company as Sonic, and the other being the face of JRPGs)
-- cutting Snake (I get that he didn't make it into this game, but he's still one of the most missed characters by far)
- lack of new series (there's only four; I figure it's possible to include a few others)
- Elma from Xenoblade Chronicles X seems like a fairly noteworthy absence
- cutting Miis (they're a fairly noteworthy part of Nintendo by this point)

All in all, I'd give it a 7/10 - my biggest issue by far is the third party cuts, and I feel like more new series could be added. (for example - the Wonderful 101, Advance Wars, Custom Robo, or a second series from Namco-Bandai (Tekken? Digimon? Tales?) or Square-Enix (Dragon Quest? Tomb Raider? Chrono Trigger?))

Thanks for the feedback.
Sceptile is a placeĥolder, but I think it'd be a good addition to the roster, since we're currently lacking a grass starter and a gen 3 rep.
I'll probably bring back Cloud since alot of people criticize my roster because of Cloud getting cut. I won't bring back Bayonetta though, but it's hard to explain why.
Snake isn't back because 1. I don't want to have too many 3rd parties, and 2. Konami drama.
I cut the miis because they don't deserve to be in Smash IMO, and I hate the fact sakurai put more development time into creating these costumes, rather than creating content that people would appriciate more.

 

[wariohasdiabetes]

Sense I Finalized My Roster, I Guess I'll Post It On Here.

And Like Always, Leave Your Thoughts About My Roster.

 

[QuintonShark8714]

Alright listen up, buttercups. Here is the best gosh darn roster that any of you have ever lid eyes on. Here is my roster for 5uper 5ma5h Bro5. 5.

Remove the following:



Reasonings:

Bayoneata/Peach/Paletuna/Rozalina/Zelda/Wii Fit/Lucina/female alt characters: they are girls. This is Smash BROS!!! Not girls, not ladies, not woman folk.
Bowser Jr/Robin/Corin: too complicated. Why does Bowser Jr. need some maybe plebeian turtles? Why does Robin need two ****ing swords and silly colorbook pages to cast bull**** hocus-pocus. Why does Corrin have to transform into a Dragon. If we want a dragon, get the ****ing Dragonborn for Christcakes.. Plus, they have girls in thier costumes.
Cloud/Ryu/Sanic/Pacman/Megaman: get the 3rd parties out to here!! They aren't Nintendo, they aren't for Nintendo fans, and THEY DONT BELONG IN MY SMASH GAME!
Lucas/Lucario/Roy/ToonLink/Ike/Ganondorf/Falco/Emo Pit/Doc Mario: No more clones!
Shulk: no anime chars! They are hentai.
Charizard/Captain a falcon/MGW/ROB/Jigglypuff/Duck Hunt/ninja frog: lol these fharacters are not longer relevant. Or thier are new games out making them useless. Charizard and Jigglypuff are terribad first gens. MGW is just a black blob. Duck Hunt is lame from a lame game no one cares about. And Captain Falcon was cool back in 2002...it's 2016 and the ****ing Olympics are almost here.
Sheik/Mewrwo/Diddy Kong/Lottle Mac: too op so nerf or remove them. But simply nerfing them won't undu their OP'ness so burning it with bleach is the best option.

I say keep the following roster:


Bowser: revert back to Melee. I want the scuttle turtle back.
King Dedede: make smaller. He's too big
DK: no change but maybe that tie should be shorter to be closer to his DKC version.
Fox: slow him down too fast too op faster than Sheik
Kirby: buff him up but remove Inhale. Too confusing and more time can be spent on creating more content as supposed to creating inhale technices.
Link: remove specials and put new ones to reflect newer items. Boomeerang, Hookshot, Bow, and Bombs are so OoT/TP.
Mario: no change except remove FLOOD and put in his tornado.
Luigi: no change
Marth: he can stay put make him less girly and not anime
Metaknight: further nerfs too op. But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Pikachu: further nerfs too op. But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Pit: less anime more manly. Too op. But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Samus: she's ok since. She looks like a dude. Further metallic breast reduction will do well
Villager; remove pocket too op But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Wario: no change
Yoshi: nerf too op But too valuable to burn with bleach.

In addition, I would include the following characters to replace the justifiably cut characters:

1. Wolf (a wolf and a manly one at that)
2. 7th gen Pokemon
3. Inkling (only the boy type)
4. Cross (the new X game but no anime)
5. Taboo
6. Master Hand
7. Crazy Hand
8. Primid
9. Darunia (relevant due to Hyrule Warrior)
10. Dark Samus (can be uncloned)

Rate this roster ******* and get recked

Edited due to adding more recking logic.

this is the WORSE EVER ROSTER I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!
**** YOU!!!!!!!
are you a spolied 6-10 year old brat? if so then you suck

+ Captain Toad
+ Dixie Kong
+ King K. Rool
+ Ridley
+ Bandana Dee
+ Isaac
+ Takamaru
+ Inkling
+ Rayman
+ Wolf
+ Ice Climbers
+ Dark Pit and Lucina demoted to alts
+ Bayonetta cut
+ Charizard kept
= Impa
= Mii Fighters cut
- Cloud cut

Your roster gets 9/10 from me. For the "Sceptile or Gardevoir", I think you should add Sceptile, as we already have Psychic type in Smash.

and we already have a Fairy type Pokemon who is Jigglypuff
you forgot about Gardevoir's second typing

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

this is the WORSE EVER ROSTER I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!
**** YOU!!!!!!!

He is trolling, don't take it seriously.

and we already have a Fairy type Pokemon who is Jigglypuff
you forgot about Gardevoir's second typing

I remembered she was Fairy type, I just didn't mention it because Jigglypuff doesn't have any Fairy moves in her moveset.

 

[QuintonShark8714]

He is trolling, don't take it seriously.



I remembered she was Fairy type, I just didn't mention it because Jigglypuff doesn't have any Fairy moves in her moveset.

or is he just a 5-10 year old spolied brat boy who throw tantrums like a crybaby and won't grow the h**l up like a man?

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

or is he just a 5-10 year old spolied brat boy who throw tantrums like a crybaby?

He is a Back Roomer (Back Room is the group who, for example, creates the North American tier list). I doubt a 5-10 year old kid would get there.

 

[Megadoomer]

or is he just a 5-10 year old spolied brat boy who throw tantrums like a crybaby and won't grow the h**l up like a man?

It seems pretty clear that they're being sarcastic or joking.

Sense I Finalized My Roster, I Guess I'll Post It On Here.

And Like Always, Leave Your Thoughts About My Roster.

I like the additions to returning series; they all make sense, and it's good to see Wolf, Snake, and the Ice Climbers getting brought back. Fawful seems like a good, if unlikely, choice for a Mario character, and Geno would be nice to see, especially considering that Sakurai's said that he thought about including him. (plus, it would be nice to see the Mario RPGs get included in some form)

As far as a new Zelda character, I'd prefer a separate character over a different version of one that we already have, but Ganon could be interesting. I've got no problems with K. Rool, Ridley, Hades, Elma, Krystal, or Bandanna Dee. I've already expressed my opinion on Sceptile (it could be justified, but seems fairly random), and I'm not familiar with Pokemon beyond gen. 3, so I have no idea who Zoroark is, what it can do, or why it should be included over the other 700+ Pokemon.

No third party cuts is great to see (Banjo-Kazooie seems highly unlikely, but I'd be overjoyed if they got in), and I've got no problem with Fire Emblem staying at six characters as long as it doesn't get new ones on top of what it already has. (I'd like to see other series getting the chance to catch up in the next game; six characters seems excessive in Smash 4, but if other series get new characters, it would be more tolerable).

The additions to Wario seems a bit excessive, and I've been a fan of the Wario games since I was young; I just feel like a series going from one character to four is quite over-the-top. I feel like one of them could be cut at least; Shake King seems to be the most expendable of the three.

That, and a lack of new series (not counting the new third parties, the only new series I see in there is Splatoon), are my only problems with this. If I had to arbitrarily give this a number, I'd say 9/10.

Thanks for the feedback.
Sceptile is a placeĥolder, but I think it'd be a good addition to the roster, since we're currently lacking a grass starter and a gen 3 rep.
I'll probably bring back Cloud since alot of people criticize my roster because of Cloud getting cut. I won't bring back Bayonetta though, but it's hard to explain why.
Snake isn't back because 1. I don't want to have too many 3rd parties, and 2. Konami drama.
I cut the miis because they don't deserve to be in Smash IMO, and I hate the fact sakurai put more development time into creating these costumes, rather than creating content that people would appriciate more.

The thing is, even with Cloud being brought back, you have the same amount of third party characters that Smash 4 has at the moment; I can't see people having a problem with one or two more, especially since they're veterans. (or you could add a new one; not sure which new third party characters would be well-received outside of Rayman, though)

As far as the Miis are concerned, I get that the amount of costumes was excessive and pretty pricey when they're all put together (and, in some cases, rather poor consolation prizes), but I sincerely doubt that they took up a ton of development time; not sure what they could have made if they hadn't included downloadable Mii costumes, but it seems like at best, it would have been a few trophies.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

He is a Back Roomer (Back Room is the group who, for example, creates the North American tier list). I doubt a 5-10 year old kid would get there.

Actually that's a Wii U Backroomer. I'm not one of those people. A Backroomer (aka Grimer) is someone who is seen a valuable and contributive member to the site. Like a cool kids club without any rules.

or is he just a 5-10 year old spolied brat boy who throw tantrums like a crybaby and won't grow the h**l up like a man?

And this is the exact reason why I wrote that beauty. I also found it mildly amusing you guys have already started rating rosters. Brings me back to the pre-Brawl and pre-Smash 4 days and I was surprised we've already got to that point now. As well, I had to deal with many of those issues and butthurt people who took offense to them. For example, having to deal with and ultimately ban MariotehPlumber who thought Palutena and other female and/or anime characters were "hentai". Or those making posts/threads to get Diddy and Meta removed for being too OP. Or religiously using the "relevancy/size/iconic" arguments to justify an addition/a cut in the roster. These sort of people actually do exist.

 

[Sceptile4Smash]

Alright listen up, buttercups. Here is the best gosh darn roster that any of you have ever lid eyes on. Here is my roster for 5uper 5ma5h Bro5. 5.

Remove the following:



Reasonings:

Bayoneata/Peach/Paletuna/Rozalina/Zelda/Wii Fit/Lucina/female alt characters: they are girls. This is Smash BROS!!! Not girls, not ladies, not woman folk.
Bowser Jr/Robin/Corin: too complicated. Why does Bowser Jr. need some maybe plebeian turtles? Why does Robin need two ****ing swords and silly colorbook pages to cast bull**** hocus-pocus. Why does Corrin have to transform into a Dragon. If we want a dragon, get the ****ing Dragonborn for Christcakes.. Plus, they have girls in thier costumes.
Cloud/Ryu/Sanic/Pacman/Megaman: get the 3rd parties out to here!! They aren't Nintendo, they aren't for Nintendo fans, and THEY DONT BELONG IN MY SMASH GAME!
Lucas/Lucario/Roy/ToonLink/Ike/Ganondorf/Falco/Emo Pit/Doc Mario: No more clones!
Shulk: no anime chars! They are hentai.
Charizard/Captain a falcon/MGW/ROB/Jigglypuff/Duck Hunt/ninja frog: lol these fharacters are not longer relevant. Or thier are new games out making them useless. Charizard and Jigglypuff are terribad first gens. MGW is just a black blob. Duck Hunt is lame from a lame game no one cares about. And Captain Falcon was cool back in 2002...it's 2016 and the ****ing Olympics are almost here.
Sheik/Mewrwo/Diddy Kong/Lottle Mac: too op so nerf or remove them. But simply nerfing them won't undu their OP'ness so burning it with bleach is the best option.

I say keep the following roster:


Bowser: revert back to Melee. I want the scuttle turtle back.
King Dedede: make smaller. He's too big
DK: no change but maybe that tie should be shorter to be closer to his DKC version.
Fox: slow him down too fast too op faster than Sheik
Kirby: buff him up but remove Inhale. Too confusing and more time can be spent on creating more content as supposed to creating inhale technices.
Link: remove specials and put new ones to reflect newer items. Boomeerang, Hookshot, Bow, and Bombs are so OoT/TP.
Mario: no change except remove FLOOD and put in his tornado.
Luigi: no change
Marth: he can stay put make him less girly and not anime
Metaknight: further nerfs too op. But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Pikachu: further nerfs too op. But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Pit: less anime more manly. Too op. But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Samus: she's ok since. She looks like a dude. Further metallic breast reduction will do well
Villager; remove pocket too op But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Wario: no change
Yoshi: nerf too op But too valuable to burn with bleach.

In addition, I would include the following characters to replace the justifiably cut characters:

1. Wolf (a wolf and a manly one at that)
2. 7th gen Pokemon
3. Inkling (only the boy type)
4. Cross (the new X game but no anime)
5. Taboo
6. Master Hand
7. Crazy Hand
8. Primid
9. Darunia (relevant due to Hyrule Warrior)
10. Dark Samus (can be uncloned)

Rate this roster ******* and get recked

Edited due to adding more recking logic.

Why hasn't Nintendo hired you yet?

 

[QuintonShark8714]

Why hasn't Nintendo hired you yet?

Venus of the Desert Bloom
because he f**king sucks at making rosters
lol

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Venus of the Desert Bloom
because he f**king sucks at making rosters
lol

For the last time...

His roster was a joke......

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Actually, it was more of a joke roster made of fun, as jest, and while under the influence of alcohol in order to highlight the ridiculous and asinine opinions of certain fringe individuals. In addition, targeting the usual circus that is the speculation of a new Smash game. It was more tongue-in-cheek humor rather than outright trolling.

Also, I forgot to add Shovel Knight to my list.

Now that I had my bit of fun, here is an actually serious roster containing characters that I think would be an interesting addition to the Smash roster as well as characters who might actually have a shot. I included my reasoning as to why I think they would be good additions to a future Smash title as well.

First, let's go to the veterans:


Notes: Luigi was good as a starter. Keep Bowser Jr. as locked. Removes Peach's Toad with Toadsworth for lolz. Removed Doc Mario.

Notes: DK reps remain unchanged. Yoshi has access to Yarn Yoshi alt.

Notes: Zelda content will obviously focus on Wii U Zelda but predicting what it will be is impossible at this point.


Notes: Wolf will become relevant due to SFZ. There was no reason to cut him in the beginning, though. Not as much as a clone to his previous incarnation.

Notes: Pikachu Libre alt.

Notes: Removed Lucina.


Notes: Adds in Rock Pikmin to Ilimar.

Notes: Palutena tweeked so she doesn't actually suck. Removed Dark Pit.


Notes: Mac's alts were too OP. Remove a few of them maybe.


Notes: Adds in Mii Mage.

Notes: Keeps the following but removes Cloud and Ryu as I feel they are in a Snake type predicament. Excellent additions but I don't see them returning. These four though are locked in with the exception of Bayonetta. It really depends what they do with her series in the next 6-8 years.

Now for the Newcomers:

Captain Toad: Having had enough being a simple meatshield for Peach, Captain Toad sets out to prove his worth by using turnips and gems he finds to chuck at opponents or uses them to stuff his backpack to weigh himself down. Don't forget that pickaxe of his! The Captain Toad series is popular and successful and bound to continue into the future.

Paper Mario: Paper Mario would resemble Mario is several aspects but retaining his paper-like appearance as well as paper-themed attacks. His appearance is really depdedant if the Paper Mario series continues into the next generation of consoles but he has the support and requests from fans/

: Lana/Impa/Linkle: Any one of these characters would be acceptable as a 5th Zelda character. Lana would focus on using barriers to trap and punish opponents. Impa would be a quick and agile character with brutal sword attacks. Linkle would be a long-range specialist at functions similar to Link albeit lighter. I would rate their chances even higher if Hyrule Warriors gets a sequel prior to Smash 5 and they are featured yet again in it. The only problem is copyrights since they could potentially be Tecmo characters. This is a small problem IMO though.
Zelda Wii U Character: Smash has never really included a secondary character as a roster spot with the exception of Sheik. We have yet to see a playable Skull Kidm Midna, Fi, Ghirahim, or Zant. Maybe Wii U Zelda can fix this by adding a character noteworthy enough of being included.. The LoZ series was pretty ill represented in Smash 4 in terms of characters and, possibly, Sakurai felt by adding new items and assist trophies would help alleviate any animosity LoZ fans have to not getting a LoZ newcomer.

Dixie Kong/King K. Rool: I would prefer Dixie Kong and was a big supporter back in pre-Brawl and pre-4. I would be happy with either though. Dixie would be an aerial expert and can hover using her hair. King K. Rool is a mixed bag with physical, punishing attacks while using various items such as his Blunderbuss (sp?) and throwing Kremlings. Maybe like a mix of Bowser and Dedede. Much like LoZ, DK was prime for a newcomer but fell short.
8th Gen Pokemon: Smash tends to skip a generation . There was zero 3rd and 5th Gen reps but 4th and 6th gen reps. I see thsi continuing with 7th being ignored and 8th being featured.

Sceptile/Shadow Mewtwo: Getting some Pokken representation in here as well as 3rd Gen. Sceptile would focus on using its stickiness to grab the opponent and throw them around. People will probably laugh at Shadow Mewtwo but it's getting tons of visibility and advertisement so including him in the roster could potentially be a wise move...especially if Pokken 2 ever comes out.

Ridley/Dark Samus: As both a rabid supporter of both of them, I would be overjoyed if we got them both in the roster. I doubt we will get either due to Sakurai's feelings on them. Concerning Ridley, people feel he is obviously too large and his appearance in the Pyropshere stage supports that fact. My opinion on this matter if they we can shrink Ridley don't just a little bit but enough to make him not look odd. He would be our first "Huge" character. He has the support, popularity, and demand. Dark Samus was prime (lol) to be a playable character but obviously would nudged away. I feel that Dark Samus chances in the Smash 5 will be next to none unless she comes back. Time will tell for the Metrid series.

Isabelle: She may not seem like a fighter but when does that stop Sakurai? Sakurai has already proven that not looking like a fighter doesn't limit ones chances. Not to mention she is being pushed by Nintendo in AC advertising. In terms of a moveset, she could focus on using fruits and community projects to zone the stage.

Azura: Much like how we got both Lucina and Robin, I don't think it would be surprising to get both Corrin and Azura. Azura is a staff wielder that can use her voice to buff herself up or nerf her opponents. Perfect for doubles battle as it extends to nearby allies.
Fire Emblem s from new games: Smash 4 showed us that Fire Emblem is a massive player within the Smash universe. I feel including main characters from the latest Fire Emblem game to be an obvious choice. Much like how we got Robin and Corrin.

Inkling: I feel the Inkling is lock in the next Smash game. Immensely popular character from a successful franchise with tons of unique options that adding it would be all but criminal. Obviously a projectile specialist that benefits from zoning, controlling, and manipulating the players choices through the use of ink.

Bandana Dee: A fourth and needed Kirby rep. It would utilize it's spear to hover in the air, throw, and jump like a pogo stick. Bandana Dee has jumped from being an enemy to being a helper to being a major secondary character. If it's inclusion in future Kirby games continues, he could nab a spot.

Elma/Cross: Yet another character(s) who are also a lock in the game or at least content wise. While Elma is the most important secondary character, Cross is the avatar of the character. Personally, I prefer Elma than to Cross who looks like someone punched him/her in the face when they were born. Cross does benefit from having multiple alts.

Chibi-Robo: He was made relevant again and, if Nintendo keeps to it, can see more games come out from the franchise. Tons of potential too by using his Zip Lash attack and small household appliances.

Takamaru: To me, Takamaru is an almost lock. Especially if Sakurai picks up the franchise. He has the fan demand and appeal to the character plus is considered a retro.

Goku: Goku from Yuyuki. Just to piss off Dragon Ball Z fans.

Rhthym Girl: She challenges Wii Fit Trainer to the "whitest character contest". She enlists of the add of RH character to help defeat her opponents. Her attacks become stronger the more beats she gets on Rhythm. While an interesting addition, her inclusion majorly depends on where the series goes from here.

Yuuri: A Fatal Frame character is an interesting and much needed choice. Fatal Frame has such a legacy on the Nintendo systems and its continuing...especially with the latest title being a exclusive on the Wii U. If not Yuuri, than a future FF protagonist.

Banjo & Kazzoie: The only thing holding this duo back is that it's Rare, LtD. property and, by extension, Microsoft. However, as we have seen with Smash 5, where there is a demand there is a way and people seriously want Banjo. I wouldn't call it impossible.

Rayman: Rayman, to me, is a lock at this point. He is the next major 3rd party character with connections to Nintendo. Not to mention, he and his friends had trophies in the Wii U version.

Professor Layton: Yet another character that is hugely connected to Nintendo and whose company has a good relationship with Nintendo.

Ryu Hayabusa: While not exactly a Nintendo superstar, Ryu Hayabusa got his start on Nintendo games. As well, Nintendo has a good relationship with the company behind the Ninja Gaiden series.

Shovel Knight: Marginally requested and has a lot of material to work with. As the allure of being one of the only Western developed characters aside from Diddy Kong. Obviously uses his techniques and abilities from his games.

Jack: Now....this is basically my own bias but Jack from the Harvest Moon games would seriously be awesome. Sort of like a mixture of Olimar and Villager but...not. He can grow crops and use them for attacks or summon cows for charging attacks.

Rate it, trash it, or whatever....

 

[Depressed Gengar]

Sigh... let's just drop this right now. And for now on let's keep things more civil and serious.

 

[QuintonShark8714]

Now that I had my bit of fun, here is an actually serious roster containing characters that I think would be an interesting addition to the Smash roster as well as characters who might actually have a shot. I included my reasoning as to why I think they would be good additions to a future Smash title as well.

First, let's go to the veterans:


Notes: Luigi was good as a starter. Keep Bowser Jr. as locked. Removes Peach's Toad with Toadsworth for lolz. Removed Doc Mario.

Notes: DK reps remain unchanged. Yoshi has access to Yarn Yoshi alt.

Notes: Zelda content will obviously focus on Wii U Zelda but predicting what it will be is impossible at this point.


Notes: Wolf will become relevant due to SFZ. There was no reason to cut him in the beginning, though. Not as much as a clone to his previous incarnation.

Notes: Pikachu Libre alt.

Notes: Removed Lucina.


Notes: Adds in Rock Pikmin to Ilimar.

Notes: Palutena tweeked so she doesn't actually suck. Removed Dark Pit.


Notes: Mac's alts were too OP. Remove a few of them maybe.


Notes: Adds in Mii Mage.

Notes: Keeps the following but removes Cloud and Ryu as I feel they are in a Snake type predicament. Excellent additions but I don't see them returning. These four though are locked in with the exception of Bayonetta. It really depends what they do with her series in the next 6-8 years.

Now for the Newcomers:

Captain Toad: Having had enough being a simple meatshield for Peach, Captain Toad sets out to prove his worth by using turnips and gems he finds to chuck at opponents or uses them to stuff his backpack to weigh himself down. Don't forget that pickaxe of his! The Captain Toad series is popular and successful and bound to continue into the future.

Paper Mario: Paper Mario would resemble Mario is several aspects but retaining his paper-like appearance as well as paper-themed attacks. His appearance is really depdedant if the Paper Mario series continues into the next generation of consoles but he has the support and requests from fans/

: Lana/Impa/Linkle: Any one of these characters would be acceptable as a 5th Zelda character. Lana would focus on using barriers to trap and punish opponents. Impa would be a quick and agile character with brutal sword attacks. Linkle would be a long-range specialist at functions similar to Link albeit lighter. I would rate their chances even higher if Hyrule Warriors gets a sequel prior to Smash 5 and they are featured yet again in it. The only problem is copyrights since they could potentially be Tecmo characters. This is a small problem IMO though.
Zelda Wii U Character: Smash has never really included a secondary character as a roster spot with the exception of Sheik. We have yet to see a playable Skull Kidm Midna, Fi, Ghirahim, or Zant. Maybe Wii U Zelda can fix this by adding a character noteworthy enough of being included.. The LoZ series was pretty ill represented in Smash 4 in terms of characters and, possibly, Sakurai felt by adding new items and assist trophies would help alleviate any animosity LoZ fans have to not getting a LoZ newcomer.

Dixie Kong/King K. Rool: I would prefer Dixie Kong and was a big supporter back in pre-Brawl and pre-4. I would be happy with either though. Dixie would be an aerial expert and can hover using her hair. King K. Rool is a mixed bag with physical, punishing attacks while using various items such as his Blunderbuss (sp?) and throwing Kremlings. Maybe like a mix of Bowser and Dedede. Much like LoZ, DK was prime for a newcomer but fell short.
8th Gen Pokemon: Smash tends to skip a generation . There was zero 3rd and 5th Gen reps but 4th and 6th gen reps. I see thsi continuing with 7th being ignored and 8th being featured.

Sceptile/Shadow Mewtwo: Getting some Pokken representation in here as well as 3rd Gen. Sceptile would focus on using its stickiness to grab the opponent and throw them around. People will probably laugh at Shadow Mewtwo but it's getting tons of visibility and advertisement so including him in the roster could potentially be a wise move...especially if Pokken 2 ever comes out.

Ridley/Dark Samus: As both a rabid supporter of both of them, I would be overjoyed if we got them both in the roster. I doubt we will get either due to Sakurai's feelings on them. Concerning Ridley, people feel he is obviously too large and his appearance in the Pyropshere stage supports that fact. My opinion on this matter if they we can shrink Ridley don't just a little bit but enough to make him not look odd. He would be our first "Huge" character. He has the support, popularity, and demand. Dark Samus was prime (lol) to be a playable character but obviously would nudged away. I feel that Dark Samus chances in the Smash 5 will be next to none unless she comes back. Time will tell for the Metrid series.

Isabelle: She may not seem like a fighter but when does that stop Sakurai? Sakurai has already proven that not looking like a fighter doesn't limit ones chances. Not to mention she is being pushed by Nintendo in AC advertising. In terms of a moveset, she could focus on using fruits and community projects to zone the stage.

Azura: Much like how we got both Lucina and Robin, I don't think it would be surprising to get both Corrin and Azura. Azura is a staff wielder that can use her voice to buff herself up or nerf her opponents. Perfect for doubles battle as it extends to nearby allies.
Fire Emblem s from new games: Smash 4 showed us that Fire Emblem is a massive player within the Smash universe. I feel including main characters from the latest Fire Emblem game to be an obvious choice. Much like how we got Robin and Corrin.

Inkling: I feel the Inkling is lock in the next Smash game. Immensely popular character from a successful franchise with tons of unique options that adding it would be all but criminal. Obviously a projectile specialist that benefits from zoning, controlling, and manipulating the players choices through the use of ink.

Bandana Dee: A fourth and needed Kirby rep. It would utilize it's spear to hover in the air, throw, and jump like a pogo stick. Bandana Dee has jumped from being an enemy to being a helper to being a major secondary character. If it's inclusion in future Kirby games continues, he could nab a spot.

Elma/Cross: Yet another character(s) who are also a lock in the game or at least content wise. While Elma is the most important secondary character, Cross is the avatar of the character. Personally, I prefer Elma than to Cross who looks like someone punched him/her in the face when they were born. Cross does benefit from having multiple alts.

Chibi-Robo: He was made relevant again and, if Nintendo keeps to it, can see more games come out from the franchise. Tons of potential too by using his Zip Lash attack and small household appliances.

Takamaru: To me, Takamaru is an almost lock. Especially if Sakurai picks up the franchise. He has the fan demand and appeal to the character plus is considered a retro.

Goku: Goku from Yuyuki. Just to piss off Dragon Ball Z fans.

Rhthym Girl: She challenges Wii Fit Trainer to the "whitest character contest". She enlists of the add of RH character to help defeat her opponents. Her attacks become stronger the more beats she gets on Rhythm. While an interesting addition, her inclusion majorly depends on where the series goes from here.

Yuuri: A Fatal Frame character is an interesting and much needed choice. Fatal Frame has such a legacy on the Nintendo systems and its continuing...especially with the latest title being a exclusive on the Wii U. If not Yuuri, than a future FF protagonist.

Banjo & Kazzoie: The only thing holding this duo back is that it's Rare, LtD. property and, by extension, Microsoft. However, as we have seen with Smash 5, where there is a demand there is a way and people seriously want Banjo. I wouldn't call it impossible.

Rayman: Rayman, to me, is a lock at this point. He is the next major 3rd party character with connections to Nintendo. Not to mention, he and his friends had trophies in the Wii U version.

Professor Layton: Yet another character that is hugely connected to Nintendo and whose company has a good relationship with Nintendo.

Ryu Hayabusa: While not exactly a Nintendo superstar, Ryu Hayabusa got his start on Nintendo games. As well, Nintendo has a good relationship with the company behind the Ninja Gaiden series.

Jack: Now....this is basically my own bias but Jack from the Harvest Moon games would seriously be awesome. Sort of like a mixture of Olimar and Villager but...not. He can grow crops and use them for attacks or summon cows for charging attacks.

Rate it, trash it, or whatever....

finally your real roster
sorry for being a jackass at first but i realized you're trolling

BTW since you talked about being a Starter and being Unlockable and could go either way,
what about these characters

which of them should be default and which of them should be unlockable?

 

[A Distant Demon]

Frankly, all these threads ever do are make me glad we got someone as awesome as Sakurai and his dev team over the fans.

Not like mine would be any better.

 

[NintenZ]

well i'm gonna make a YouTube SSB5 roster on April Fools based on your roster just to troll many Smash fans LOL

Dude... Please stop...

This is supposed to be a place for fun and disscussion and right now you're acting really immature...

Like I'm sorry but I felt that this had to be said.

 

[QuintonShark8714]

Dude... Please stop...

This is supposed to be a place for fun and disscussion and right now you're acting really immature...

Like I'm sorry but I felt that this had to be said.

sorry.
i messed up.

 

[QuintonShark8714]

Alright listen up, buttercups. Here is the best gosh darn roster that any of you have ever lid eyes on. Here is my roster for 5uper 5ma5h Bro5. 5.

Remove the following:



Reasonings:

Bayoneata/Peach/Paletuna/Rozalina/Zelda/Wii Fit/Lucina/female alt characters: they are girls. This is Smash BROS!!! Not girls, not ladies, not woman folk.
Bowser Jr/Robin/Corin: too complicated. Why does Bowser Jr. need some maybe plebeian turtles? Why does Robin need two ****ing swords and silly colorbook pages to cast bull**** hocus-pocus. Why does Corrin have to transform into a Dragon. If we want a dragon, get the ****ing Dragonborn for Christcakes.. Plus, they have girls in thier costumes.
Cloud/Ryu/Sanic/Pacman/Megaman: get the 3rd parties out to here!! They aren't Nintendo, they aren't for Nintendo fans, and THEY DONT BELONG IN MY SMASH GAME!
Lucas/Lucario/Roy/ToonLink/Ike/Ganondorf/Falco/Emo Pit/Doc Mario: No more clones!
Shulk: no anime chars! They are hentai.
Charizard/Captain a falcon/MGW/ROB/Jigglypuff/Duck Hunt/ninja frog: lol these fharacters are not longer relevant. Or thier are new games out making them useless. Charizard and Jigglypuff are terribad first gens. MGW is just a black blob. Duck Hunt is lame from a lame game no one cares about. And Captain Falcon was cool back in 2002...it's 2016 and the ****ing Olympics are almost here.
Sheik/Mewrwo/Diddy Kong/Lottle Mac: too op so nerf or remove them. But simply nerfing them won't undu their OP'ness so burning it with bleach is the best option.

I say keep the following roster:


Bowser: revert back to Melee. I want the scuttle turtle back.
King Dedede: make smaller. He's too big
DK: no change but maybe that tie should be shorter to be closer to his DKC version.
Fox: slow him down too fast too op faster than Sheik
Kirby: buff him up but remove Inhale. Too confusing and more time can be spent on creating more content as supposed to creating inhale technices.
Link: remove specials and put new ones to reflect newer items. Boomeerang, Hookshot, Bow, and Bombs are so OoT/TP.
Mario: no change except remove FLOOD and put in his tornado.
Luigi: no change
Marth: he can stay put make him less girly and not anime
Metaknight: further nerfs too op. But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Pikachu: further nerfs too op. But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Pit: less anime more manly. Too op. But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Samus: she's ok since. She looks like a dude. Further metallic breast reduction will do well
Villager; remove pocket too op But too valuable to burn with bleach.
Wario: no change
Yoshi: nerf too op But too valuable to burn with bleach.

In addition, I would include the following characters to replace the justifiably cut characters:

1. Wolf (a wolf and a manly one at that)
2. 7th gen Pokemon
3. Inkling (only the boy type)
4. Cross (the new X game but no anime)
5. Taboo
6. Master Hand
7. Crazy Hand
8. Primid
9. Darunia (relevant due to Hyrule Warrior)
10. Dark Samus (can be uncloned)

Rate this roster ******* and get recked

Edited due to adding more recking logic.

i'm gonna talk to you the nice and troll way
Mariotehplumber is that you?
i didn't know you also hate Little Mac, Pac-Man, Mega Man, Diddy Kong, Olimar, Modern Smash Bowser, Modern Smash Fox, Kirby's Inhale, Villager's Pocket, Ness, Captain Falcon, Greninja, Cloud, Ryu, Anime characters, Clones besides Lucina, Lucario, Mewtwo, R.O.B., Mr. Game & Watch, Jigglypuff, Bowser Jr, Duck Hunt Ike, Marth and Pit.
i thought you only hate Female characters and Modern Sonic because they look like henteai
if you hate me come at me and rant on me on YouTube for being a Rosalina, Palutena, Peach and Zero Suit Samus main i dare you




just kidding i'm only trolling just like how you troll me BTW you put 2 Ganondorfs instead of Ness and Olimar LOL

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

i'm gonna talk to you the nice and troll way
Mariotehplumber is that you?
i didn't know you also hate Anime characters, Clones besides Lucina, Lucario, Mewtwo, Jigglypuff, Bowser Jr, Duck Hunt Ike, Marth and Pit.
i thought you only hate Female characters because they look like henteai
if you hate me come at me and rant on me on YouTube for being a Rosalina, Palutena, Peach and Zero Suit Samus main i dare you




just kidding i'm only trolling just like how you troll me

You being so easily triggered just made my half-assed trolling that much more sweeter.

 

[QuintonShark8714]

You being so easily triggered just made my half-***** trolling that much more sweeter.

you do realize you forgot about Olimar and Ness put 2 Ganondorfs on your Troll roster instead.