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NintenZ

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I think Impa is enough for a Zelda newcomer, so no.
For a little word of advice I suggest putting Quinton on ignore (This is a message for everyone) as he's been doing things like these for attention, just a suggestion.
 
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Here's my more minimalistic roster.
VETERANS
All of Sm4sh's base roster
-Dr. Mario, Lucina, Dark Pit, Mii Fighters
+Mewtwo, Ice Climbers, Wolf, Lucas, (maybe) Roy
Total: 49 or 50
I didn't add the rest of the DLC characters mostly because I didn't want to.
NEWCOMERS
Captain Toad
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Impa
Ridley
Bandana Dee
Isaac
Takamaru
Inkling
Rayman
(10 newcomers)
 

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Here's my more minimalistic roster.
VETERANS
All of Sm4sh's base roster
-Dr. Mario, Lucina, Dark Pit, Mii Fighters
+Mewtwo, Ice Climbers, Wolf, Lucas, (maybe) Roy
Total: 49 or 50
I didn't add the rest of the DLC characters mostly because I didn't want to.
NEWCOMERS
Captain Toad
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Impa
Ridley
Bandana Dee
Isaac
Takamaru
Inkling
Rayman
(10 newcomers)
are your done with you roster? or are you just refferring you old one??
 

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Here's my more minimalistic roster.
VETERANS
All of Sm4sh's base roster
-Dr. Mario, Lucina, Dark Pit, Mii Fighters
+Mewtwo, Ice Climbers, Wolf, Lucas, (maybe) Roy
Total: 49 or 50
I didn't add the rest of the DLC characters mostly because I didn't want to.
NEWCOMERS
Captain Toad
King K. Rool
Dixie Kong
Impa
Ridley
Bandana Dee
Isaac
Takamaru
Inkling
Rayman
(10 newcomers)
Nice roster, but Impa's kinda similar to Sheik isn't she?
How about Ganon, Linkle or Tingle?
Or do you think that she has enough to separate her from Sheik?
 
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Nice roster, but Impa's kinda similar to Sheik isn't she?
How about Ganon, Linkle or Tingle?
Or do you think that she has enough to separate her from Sheik?
I haven't played enough Zelda games but I think she'd be a bit simillar to Sheik, but with different standart attacks (She uses a sword in Hyrule Warriors from what I've seen), kinda like Lucas... And I think it's more than enough differences.
Than again, I don't know much about the Zelda series, so I could be wrong.
 

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I haven't played enough Zelda games but I think she'd be a bit simillar to Sheik, but with different standart attacks (She uses a sword in Hyrule Warriors from what I've seen), kinda like Lucas... And I think it's more than enough differences.
Than again, I don't know much about the Zelda series, so I could be wrong.
Hyrule Warriors is a spin-off though, chances of that being represented are slim.
You can have Impa if you'd like but I'd suggest a more unique character such as Linkle, Ganon, or Tingle (But I can completely understand if you don't want him).
 
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Hyrule Warriors is a spin-off though, chances of that being represented are slim.
You can have Impa if you'd like but I'd suggest a more unique character such as Linkle, Ganon, or Tingle (But I can completely understand if you don't want him).
Ganon would be unnecessary because in my roster, Ganondorf would be revamped and he'll use his trident and magic, and he will transform into Ganon in his Final Smash (Kinda like Giga Bowser)
I'm not sure about Linkle or Tingle; Tingle would be a good joke character, but I don't know if I want to add him (but I definetly see some moveset potential in him from what I've seen in his HW trailer). I'm iffy about Linkle, since I don't know what she'd do aside from using her crossbows.
 

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Ganon would be unnecessary because in my roster, Ganondorf would be revamped and he'll use his trident and magic, and he will transform into Ganon in his Final Smash (Kinda like Giga Bowser)
I'm not sure about Linkle or Tingle; Tingle would be a good joke character, but I don't know if I want to add him (but I definetly see some moveset potential in him from what I've seen in his HW trailer). I'm iffy about Linkle, since I don't know what she'd do aside from using her crossbows.
That's fair enough in my book.
 

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Impa would still be better, Skyward Sword shows that she has access to magic, so she could be kinda like a Zelda/Sheik hybrid with magical kicks and all that jazz
 

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Here's my Realistic Roster:
i updated because my old one mostly sucked

Super Mario
:4mario:Mario
:4luigi:
Luigi
:4peach:
Peach
:4bowser:
Bowser
:substitute:
Captain Toad
:rosalina:
* Rosalina & Luma
:4bowserjr:* Bowser Jr.
:substitute:* Paper Mario or Daisy?


Mario Expanded Pack
:4yoshi:
Yoshi
:4wario:
Wario
:substitute:
* Ashley



Donkey Kong
:4dk:
Donkey Kong
:4diddy:
Diddy Kong
:substitute:
Dixie Kong
:substitute:
* King K. Rool



The Legend of Zelda
:4link:Link
:4zelda:
Zelda
:4sheik:
Shiek
:substitute:
Impa
:4ganondorf:* Ganondorf
:4tlink:* Toon Link
:substitute:* Linkle



Metroid

:4samus:Samus
:4zss:
Zero Suit Samus
:substitute:
* Sylux
:substitute:* Ridley



Kirby
:4kirby:Kirby
:4dedede:
King Dedede
:4metaknight:
* Meta Knight
:substitute:Bandana Dee



Star Fox
:4fox:Fox
:4falco:
* Falco
:wolf:* Wolf




Pokémon
:4pikachu:Pikachu
:4charizard:
Charizard
:4greninja:
Greninja
:substitute:
A Gen 8 Pokemon
:4lucario:
* Lucario
:4mewtwo:* Mewtwo
:4jigglypuff:
* Jigglypuff



Earthbound/Mother

:4ness:Ness
:4lucas:
* Lucas



Fire Emblem
:4marth:
Marth
:4myfriends:
Ike
:4robinm:
Robin
:substitute:
A Future Fire Emblem Main Protaginist
:4feroy:
* Roy
:4corrinf:* Corrin



Kid Icarus
:4pit:Pit
:4palutena:
Palutena
:substitute:
Virdi
:4darkpit:* Dark Pit



Misc.
:4falcon:Captain Falcon
:popo:Ice Climbers
:4olimar:Olimar
:4villager:Villager
:substitute:Isabelle
:4wiifit:Wii Fit Trainer
:4littlemac:Little Mac
:4shulk:Shulk
:substitute:Elma
:substitute:Inkling
:substitute:Takamaru
:substitute:
Professer Layton
:4gaw:* Mr. Game & Watch
:4rob:* R.O.B.
:4duckhunt:* Duck Hunt
:substitute:* Chorus Men
:4mii:
Mii




3rd Party
:4pacman:
Pac-Man
:4megaman:
Mega Man
:4sonic:
Sonic
:substitute:Rayman



Cuts:
:pichumelee::younglinkmelee::ivysaur::squirtle::snake::4drmario::4lucina::4ryu::4cloud::4bayonetta:


Changes:
:pichumelee:
:snake:
:4ryu:(Who is now replaced with Dark Pit)
:4cloud:
:4bayonetta:
:substitute:Waluigi (who is now replaced with Ashley)
:substitute:Black Shadow
:substitute:Dark Samus (who is now replaced with Sylux
:substitute:Hades (who is now replaced with Dark Pit)
:substitute:Cross
:substitute:Octoling
:substitute:Chibi-Robo
:substitute:Wonder Red
:substitute:Mach Rider
:substitute:Dillion
:substitute:Bomberman
:substitute:and Tails
were all removed for good
 
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Third party cuts make me sad.

Same with Nintendo purists.
 

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A massive negative right off the bat, at least for me, is cutting Bayonetta and Cloud. I don't like seeing unique characters, especially entire series, being removed from Smash Bros. Plus, Cloud is the most recognizable character from arguably the biggest RPG series of all time, and Bayonetta both won the Smash Ballot (which would make removing her seem like all of that voting was completely pointless) and is owned by a company that already has a character in the game (:4sonic:). I realize that Cloud may not seem likely to some, given how stingy Square-Enix seemed to be with music, character models for trophies, etc. (though for all we know, he could have been added fairly quickly so they didn't have time to include much extras or record remixed versions of songs), but outright wanting entire franchises to be cut just seems wrong.

Clones are a divisive issue, but it seems to me (though I'm not heavily involved in either fandom) that Lucina and Dark Pit are pretty popular in the context of their own games; Falco and Ganondorf got a second chance in Brawl and were altered to be less like the characters who they were clones of, and the same could happen to Lucina and Dark Pit, especially if they were worked on for longer instead of being last minute additions. Though I understand that they'd be the easiest choice to make as far as cuts go.

Jibanyan isn't a Nintendo character; he's a third party one, and doesn't seem particularly noteworthy or popular compared to the ones already in the game (even Bayonetta; while her franchise is new, she did get the most votes overall in Europe and was top five in North America, so she's definitely popular). Not sure if he's really necessary.

Not a huge fan of placeholder spots (not sure how you can want a character who doesn't exist yet to be in Smash; I get that it seems inevitable, but for all we know, the next Pokemon or Fire Emblem game might not have a character that catches a lot of interest. Pokemon Gen. 5 seems like it fell into that category, seeing as they chose a Pokemon that was only concept art instead), but I can see why you would include them.

As far as your choices go, I'd probably go with Paper Mario and Elma - Daisy doesn't seem have much of a fanbase outside of GameFAQs (where it's mostly one obsessive fan who's been banned elsewhere for talking about nothing but Daisy ever) and doesn't have much to work with content-wise, and Cross is pretty much a blank slate from what I've played of Xenoblade, while Elma has a clearly defined appearance, personality, and skill-set, and seems to be who the overarching story is centered around. (though I haven't finished that game yet)

Seeing as you're cutting Dark Pit, I can understand adding several new Kid Icarus characters as long as other franchises don't get forgotten as a result (one of my biggest pet peeves with Smash 4 being that the game focused on Mario, Kid Icarus, and Fire Emblem to the detriment of pretty much every other returning series).

Linkle seems like an odd choice. You can pick from any of the Zelda characters introduced in the past fifteen years, and you go with a girl version of Link. Still, she fights differently from Link if the little that I've seen of Hyrule Warriors 3DS is any indication, so she could be interesting. Having Impa as well helps.

Other than that, I like your other additions, or at least see no problem with them. Isabelle seems like she could be fun to play as, though I'd be concerned that Villager pretty much covers everything about Animal Crossing already. As far as a fourth Kirby character goes, Bandanna Dee makes a great deal of sense. Ridley is probably the best choice for a new Metroid character, at least in my opinion, and Sylux is an added bonus. Dixie, King K. Rool, and Captain Toad are all great choices in general.

As far as new series go, Inkling, Wonder Red, and Takamaru are all great picks. Not so sure about Chorus Men, though - I feel like the only reason that people mention them is because of the "leak" that was debunked the moment that Lucina was revealed, and I can't really see how they would work in Smash. (in Rhythm Heaven, don't they just stand there and sing? I feel like there would be other Rhythm Heaven characters who would be better choices, though I know very little about the franchise)

To sum it up (in case this falls into "too long; didn't read" territory), I have mixed feeling about this roster. A good amount of the choices work really well, while other ones have me scratching my head. In particular, I have a big issue with cutting entire series; there doesn't really seem to be any reason for it.
 

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Here's my Realistic Roster:
i updated because my old one mostly sucked

Super Mario
:4mario:Mario
:4luigi:
Luigi
:4peach:
Peach
:4bowser:
Bowser
:substitute:
Captain Toad
:rosalina:
* Rosalina & Luma
:4bowserjr:* Bowser Jr.
:substitute:* Paper Mario or Daisy?


Mario Expanded Pack
:4yoshi:
Yoshi
:4wario:
* Wario



Donkey Kong
:4dk:
Donkey Kong
:4diddy:
Diddy Kong
:substitute:
Dixie Kong
:substitute:
* King K. Rool



The Legend of Zelda
:4link:Link
:4zelda:
Zelda
:4sheik:
Shiek
:substitute:
Impa
:4ganondorf:* Ganondorf
:4tlink:* Toon Link
:substitute:* Linkle



Metroid

:4samus:Samus
:4zss:
Zero Suit Samus
:substitute:
* Sylux
:substitute:* Ridley



Kirby
:4kirby:Kirby
:4dedede:
King Dedede
:4metaknight:
* Meta Knight
:substitute:Bandana Dee



Star Fox
:4fox:Fox
:4falco:
* Falco
:wolf:* Wolf




Pokémon
:4pikachu:Pikachu
:4charizard:
Charizard
:4greninja:
Greninja
:substitute:
A Sun and Moon Pokémon
:4lucario:
* Lucario
:4mewtwo:* Mewtwo
:4jigglypuff:
* Jigglypuff



Earthbound/Mother

:4ness:Ness
:4lucas:
* Lucas



Fire Emblem
:4marth:
Marth
:4myfriends:
Ike
:4robinm:
Robin
:substitute:
A Future Fire Emblem Main Protaginist
:4feroy:
* Roy
:4corrinf:* Corrin



Kid Icarus
:4pit:Pit
:4palutena:
Palutena
:substitute:
Virdi
:substitute:
* Hades



Misc.
:4falcon:Captain Falcon
:popo:Ice Climbers
:4olimar:Olimar
:4villager:Villager
:substitute:Isabelle
:4wiifit:Wii Fit Trainer
:4littlemac:Little Mac
:4shulk:Shulk
:substitute:Elma or Cross?
:substitute:Inkling
:substitute:Wonder Red
:substitute:Jibanyan

:substitute:Takmaru
:4gaw:* Mr. Game & Watch
:4rob:* R.O.B.
:4duckhunt:* Duck Hunt
:substitute:* Chorus Men
:4mii:
Mii




3rd Party
:4pacman:
Pac-Man
:4megaman:
Mega Man
:4sonic:
Sonic
:4ryu:
* Ryu
:substitute:Rayman



Cuts:
:pichumelee::younglinkmelee::ivysaur::squirtle::snake::4drmario::4darkpit::4lucina::4cloud::4bayonetta:


Changes:
:pichumelee:
:snake:
:4cloud:
:4bayonetta:
:substitute:Waluigi
:substitute:Black Shadow
:substitute:Dark Samus
:substitute:Octoling
:substitute:Chibi-Robo
:substitute:Mach Rider
:substitute:Dillion
:substitute:Bomberman
:substitute:and Tails
were all removed for good
Paper Mario over Daisy of course.

And why would Cross ever be put over Elma?

Also I have a ton of negatives so let's get right to it shall we?
-No new Wario characters (Ashley is pretty much a no-brainer)
-Impa
-A Sun and Moon Pokemon
-A future FE protagonist over Anna
-Hades
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Cross
-No Layton
----------Cutting the Ballot Winner
-Cutting the only FF character
-Wonder Red (Because let's face it he won't be relevant by the time Smash 5 rolls around, even his most vocal supporter knows this)
-Isabelle over Tom Nook
-Capcom getting two characters while SEGA, Bamco and Ubisoft get one characters each

Sorry but this roster is not my cup of tea at all.
 

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Heya guys! New to this thread, hope my roster isn't that bad.

It's under the spoiler. I hope no one minds but I've expanded the 3rd parties a bit because 5 isn't gonna cut it

MARIO
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Rosalina
Dr. Mario
Paper Mario
Waluigi

LEGEND OF ZELDA
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Shiek
Tingle
Impa

KIRBY
Kirby
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Bandana Dee

DONKEY KONG
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong
King K. Rool

WARIO
Wario
Ashley

YOSHI
Yoshi
Poochy

METROID
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Anthony Higgs
Sylux

FIRE EMBLEM
Ike
Marth
Corrin
Robin
Azura

POKEMON
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Charizard
Mewtwo
Lucario
Greninja
Grovyle
Sun & Moon Pokemon

KID ICARUS
Pit
Palutena
Viridi

EARTHBOUND
Ness
Lucas

STAR FOX
Fox
Falco
Wolf

F-ZERO
Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

ANIMAL CROSSING
Villager
Isabelle

PIKMIN
Olimar
Alph

XENOBLADE
Shulk
Elma

OTHER VETERAN SERIES
Duck Hunt
R.O.B
Mr. Game & Watch
Ice Climbers
Lil Mac
Wii Fit Trainer
Mii's

NEW SERIES
Inkling
Chorus Kids
Karate Joe
Takamaru
Mallo (Pushmo)
Nikki (Swapnote)
Badge Bunny
Starfy
ExciteBiker

3RD PARTIES
Sonic
Megaman
Pac-Man
Cloud
Ryu
Bayonetta
Jibanyan
Jack Frost
Solid Snake

CUTS
Lucina, Dark Pit, Roy

Well, it kinda went over 70 by 16 people haha...But this is just babies first roster. Hope you guys liked it and I'd love to hear feedback.
 

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Heya guys! New to this thread, hope my roster isn't that bad.

It's under the spoiler. I hope no one minds but I've expanded the 3rd parties a bit because 5 isn't gonna cut it

MARIO
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Rosalina
Dr. Mario
Paper Mario
Waluigi

LEGEND OF ZELDA
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Shiek
Tingle
Impa

KIRBY
Kirby
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Bandana Dee

DONKEY KONG
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong
King K. Rool

WARIO
Wario
Ashley

YOSHI
Yoshi
Poochy

METROID
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Anthony Higgs
Sylux

FIRE EMBLEM
Ike
Marth
Corrin
Robin
Azura

POKEMON
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Charizard
Mewtwo
Lucario
Greninja
Grovyle
Sun & Moon Pokemon

KID ICARUS
Pit
Palutena
Viridi

EARTHBOUND
Ness
Lucas

STAR FOX
Fox
Falco
Wolf

F-ZERO
Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

ANIMAL CROSSING
Villager
Isabelle

PIKMIN
Olimar
Alph

XENOBLADE
Shulk
Elma

OTHER VETERAN SERIES
Duck Hunt
R.O.B
Mr. Game & Watch
Ice Climbers
Lil Mac
Wii Fit Trainer
Mii's

NEW SERIES
Inkling
Chorus Kids
Karate Joe
Takamaru
Mallo (Pushmo)
Nikki (Swapnote)
Badge Bunny
Starfy
ExciteBiker

3RD PARTIES
Sonic
Megaman
Pac-Man
Cloud
Ryu
Bayonetta
Jibanyan
Jack Frost
Solid Snake

CUTS
Lucina, Dark Pit, Roy

Well, it kinda went over 70 by 16 people haha...But this is just babies first roster. Hope you guys liked it and I'd love to hear feedback.
This is a great roster!

Here are my only gripes,
-No Anna
-Grovyle
-Mallo
-Nikki
-No Layton
-Roy cut

Other than those it's a great roster! :)
 

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Heya guys! New to this thread, hope my roster isn't that bad.

It's under the spoiler. I hope no one minds but I've expanded the 3rd parties a bit because 5 isn't gonna cut it

MARIO
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Rosalina
Dr. Mario
Paper Mario
Waluigi

LEGEND OF ZELDA
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Shiek
Tingle
Impa

KIRBY
Kirby
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Bandana Dee

DONKEY KONG
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong
King K. Rool

WARIO
Wario
Ashley

YOSHI
Yoshi
Poochy

METROID
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Anthony Higgs
Sylux

FIRE EMBLEM
Ike
Marth
Corrin
Robin
Azura

POKEMON
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Charizard
Mewtwo
Lucario
Greninja
Grovyle
Sun & Moon Pokemon

KID ICARUS
Pit
Palutena
Viridi

EARTHBOUND
Ness
Lucas

STAR FOX
Fox
Falco
Wolf

F-ZERO
Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

ANIMAL CROSSING
Villager
Isabelle

PIKMIN
Olimar
Alph

XENOBLADE
Shulk
Elma

OTHER VETERAN SERIES
Duck Hunt
R.O.B
Mr. Game & Watch
Ice Climbers
Lil Mac
Wii Fit Trainer
Mii's

NEW SERIES
Inkling
Chorus Kids
Karate Joe
Takamaru
Mallo (Pushmo)
Nikki (Swapnote)
Badge Bunny
Starfy
ExciteBiker

3RD PARTIES
Sonic
Megaman
Pac-Man
Cloud
Ryu
Bayonetta
Jibanyan
Jack Frost
Solid Snake

CUTS
Lucina, Dark Pit, Roy

Well, it kinda went over 70 by 16 people haha...But this is just babies first roster. Hope you guys liked it and I'd love to hear feedback.
I like this one quite a bit, Paper Mario, Bandana Dee, Impa, Dixie, K.Rool, Ashley, Elma and others are all great choices, although I'm not a fan of adding a second Fates character, seems like overkill, anthony is awful, 2 pokemon, especially 1 that doesn't exist yet (Also why grovyle over sceptile?) and three Sega reps are a little much too. I also don't really see the point of cutting lucina and Dark Pit when you have Alph in there.
 
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I like this one quite a bit, Paper Mario, Bandana Dee, Impa, Dixie, K.Rool, Ashley, Elma and others are all great choices, although I'm not a fan of adding a second Fates character, seems like overkill, anthony is awful, 2 pokemon, especially 1 that doesn't exist yet (Also why grovyle over sceptile?) and three Sega reps are a little much too. I also don't really see the point of cutting lucina and Dark Pit when you have Alph in there.
To be fair he was the best part about Other M, and I know plenty of people who want him.

He's kinda become a cult favorite.
 

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To be fair he was the best part about Other M, and I know plenty of people who want him.

He's kinda become a cult favorite.
I never really saw the appeal, he's kinda generic compared to Ridley, Dark Samus or Sylux. Although I wouldn't be mad about having a little more diversity in terms of our human characters.
 
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I like this one quite a bit, Paper Mario, Bandana Dee, Impa, Dixie, K.Rool, Ashley, Elma and others are all great choices, although I'm not a fan of adding a second Fates character, seems like overkill, anthony is awful, 2 pokemon, especially 1 that doesn't exist yet (Also why grovyle over sceptile?) and three Sega reps are a little much too. I also don't really see the point of cutting lucina and Dark Pit when you have Alph in there.
Azura was a personal pick. What's wrong with Anthony? I understand the Other M hate but I think he's a bit of a likable character.
Grovyle > Sceptile because Grovyle could rep Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.
Is Jack really considered a Sega rep? Thought he'd be an Atlus one even though they're partially owned by Nintendo. Still though I think they're close enough with Nintendo for it to be plausible.
Lucina and Dark Pit are to become alt costumes, forgot to mention that. I put in Alph because Pikmin definitely needs rep over Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem and Alph has a lot of potential to be different. Also I just like the guy.

This is a great roster!

Here are my only gripes,
-No Anna
-Grovyle
-Mallo
-Nikki
-No Layton
-Roy cut

Other than those it's a great roster! :)
Don't expect to see Anna on any of my rosters haha sorry bro. I love Layton but I feel the Level 5 rep would have to be Jibanyan.

What's your gripes with Grovyle/Mallo/Nikki though?
 

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Azura was a personal pick. What's wrong with Anthony? I understand the Other M hate but I think he's a bit of a likable character.
Grovyle > Sceptile because Grovyle could rep Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.
Is Jack really considered a Sega rep? Thought he'd be an Atlus one even though they're partially owned by Nintendo. Still though I think they're close enough with Nintendo for it to be plausible.
Lucina and Dark Pit are to become alt costumes, forgot to mention that. I put in Alph because Pikmin definitely needs rep over Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem and Alph has a lot of potential to be different. Also I just like the guy.


Don't expect to see Anna on any of my rosters haha sorry bro. I love Layton but I feel the Level 5 rep would have to be Jibanyan.

What's your gripes with Grovyle/Mallo/Nikki though?
Grovyle because I feel Sceptile to be the superior option, as he's the fully evolved form.

After thinking it over Mallo is just fine. (Though it's kinda hard for me to think of a proper move set for him admittedly)

Nikki because we basically have her already. :4miif:

But what do you think?
 

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Azura was a personal pick. What's wrong with Anthony? I understand the Other M hate but I think he's a bit of a likable character.
Grovyle > Sceptile because Grovyle could rep Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.
Is Jack really considered a Sega rep? Thought he'd be an Atlus one even though they're partially owned by Nintendo. Still though I think they're close enough with Nintendo for it to be plausible.
Lucina and Dark Pit are to become alt costumes, forgot to mention that. I put in Alph because Pikmin definitely needs rep over Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem and Alph has a lot of potential to be different. Also I just like the guy.


Don't expect to see Anna on any of my rosters haha sorry bro. I love Layton but I feel the Level 5 rep would have to be Jibanyan.

What's your gripes with Grovyle/Mallo/Nikki though?
but in Pokemon Super Mistery Dungeon Grovyle evolved into Sceptile
 
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Azura was a personal pick. What's wrong with Anthony? I understand the Other M hate but I think he's a bit of a likable character.
Grovyle > Sceptile because Grovyle could rep Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.
Is Jack really considered a Sega rep? Thought he'd be an Atlus one even though they're partially owned by Nintendo. Still though I think they're close enough with Nintendo for it to be plausible.
Lucina and Dark Pit are to become alt costumes, forgot to mention that. I put in Alph because Pikmin definitely needs rep over Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem and Alph has a lot of potential to be different. Also I just like the guy.


Don't expect to see Anna on any of my rosters haha sorry bro. I love Layton but I feel the Level 5 rep would have to be Jibanyan.

What's your gripes with Grovyle/Mallo/Nikki though?
Ah, I see with Azura, She's like my Fiora, character that would probably not happen because the game is already repped.
I already mentioned a couple posts up but Anthony is a little generic compared to other metroid characters imo and I still think sceptile makes a little more sense, the mystery dungeon games don't really need repping, at least not with a character and sceptile is more popular, plus I think that tail would allow for a more creative moveset.
Atlus is owned by Sega right? I didn't just make that up?
 
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Ah, I see with Azura, She's like my Fiora, character that would probably not happen because the game is already repped.
I already mentioned a couple posts up but Anthony is a little generic compared to other metroid characters imo and I still think sceptile makes a little more sense, the mystery dungeon games don't really need repping, at least not with a character and sceptile is more popular, plus I think that tail would allow for a more creative moveset.
Atlus is owned by Sega right? I didn't just make that up?
Altus is completely owned by SEGA, making Jack Frost a first-party SEGA character.
 

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Ah, I see with Azura, She's like my Fiora, character that would probably not happen because the game is already repped.
I already mentioned a couple posts up but Anthony is a little generic compared to other metroid characters imo and I still think sceptile makes a little more sense, the mystery dungeon games don't really need repping, at least not with a character and sceptile is more popular, plus I think that tail would allow for a more creative moveset.
Atlus is owned by Sega right? I didn't just make that up?
I mean why would you make Sceptile use his tail instead of all the other cool stuff he can do?
Honestly, it's not like there's more then 3 other Metroid characters with a shot for Smash. And I don't see why they don't; they're the go-to Pokemon spinoff.
I think Azura at least has a chance, I mean Fates and Awakening are basically new eras of Fire Emblem so I wouldn't be shocked.

Atlus is owned by Sega yes.
but in Pokemon Super Mistery Dungeon Grovyle evolved into Sceptile
...Why did you not put that under a spoiler? I was thinking Grovyle never returned! Now the surprise is ruined, come on dude..Well, still he's more iconic as a Grovyle. Especially to people who haven't been spoiled on the new game. like i once was
 
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I mean why would you make Sceptile use his tail instead of all the other cool stuff he can do?
Honestly, it's not like there's more then 3 other Metroid characters with a shot for Smash. And I don't see why they don't; they're the go-to Pokemon spinoff.
I think Azura at least has a chance, I mean Fates and Awakening are basically new eras of Fire Emblem so I wouldn't be shocked.

Atlus is owned by Sega yes.


...Why did you not put that under a spoiler? I was thinking Grovyle never returned! Now the surprise is ruined, come on dude..
I don't really see what other stuff he could do, his tail and blades are his biggest weapons, gives him a bigger arsenal and a larger moveset pool. As i said though I don't really think mystery dungeon needs repping, sceptile is also more relevant due to Pokken and his mega.
 
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...Why did you not put that under a spoiler? I was thinking Grovyle never returned! Now the surprise is ruined, come on dude..Well, still he's more iconic as a Grovyle. Especially to people who haven't been spoiled on the new game. like i once was
Sorry about him, he's a spam account...

I suggest putting him on ignore immediately.
 
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I don't really see what other stuff he could do, his tail and blades are his biggest weapons, gives him a bigger arsenal and a larger moveset pool. As i said though I don't really think mystery dungeon needs repping, sceptile is also more relevant due to Pokken and his mega.
Why doesn't Mystery Dungeon need repping though? I mean it's really 50/50, and they're both evolutions of Treecko so it's possible none of them are even likely
 

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Heya guys! New to this thread, hope my roster isn't that bad.

It's under the spoiler. I hope no one minds but I've expanded the 3rd parties a bit because 5 isn't gonna cut it

MARIO
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Rosalina
Dr. Mario
Paper Mario
Waluigi

LEGEND OF ZELDA
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Toon Link
Shiek
Tingle
Impa

KIRBY
Kirby
King Dedede
Meta Knight
Bandana Dee

DONKEY KONG
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong
King K. Rool

WARIO
Wario
Ashley

YOSHI
Yoshi
Poochy

METROID
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Anthony Higgs
Sylux

FIRE EMBLEM
Ike
Marth
Corrin
Robin
Azura

POKEMON
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Charizard
Mewtwo
Lucario
Greninja
Grovyle
Sun & Moon Pokemon

KID ICARUS
Pit
Palutena
Viridi

EARTHBOUND
Ness
Lucas

STAR FOX
Fox
Falco
Wolf

F-ZERO
Captain Falcon
Samurai Goroh

ANIMAL CROSSING
Villager
Isabelle

PIKMIN
Olimar
Alph

XENOBLADE
Shulk
Elma

OTHER VETERAN SERIES
Duck Hunt
R.O.B
Mr. Game & Watch
Ice Climbers
Lil Mac
Wii Fit Trainer
Mii's

NEW SERIES
Inkling
Chorus Kids
Karate Joe
Takamaru
Mallo (Pushmo)
Nikki (Swapnote)
Badge Bunny
Starfy
ExciteBiker

3RD PARTIES
Sonic
Megaman
Pac-Man
Cloud
Ryu
Bayonetta
Jibanyan
Jack Frost
Solid Snake

CUTS
Lucina, Dark Pit, Roy

Well, it kinda went over 70 by 16 people haha...But this is just babies first roster. Hope you guys liked it and I'd love to hear feedback.
Don't worry about the third parties bit - that rule was made before Ryu, Cloud, and Bayonetta were added to the game, and I wouldn't expect that they'd want us to automatically cut one of the third party characters (or two or more, if we wanted to add anyone).

Also, fair warning before I start that I tend to be thorough with these, so this might go on for a while.

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For starters, I feel like either Roy or Lucina should be kept. I realize that Fire Emblem has a ridiculous number of characters, but I know that some people (myself included) find Marth's tipper system difficult to use effectively, and having an alternative would be a plus. Doesn't matter to me which one you go with (Roy seems more popular in the context of Smash, while Lucina seems more popular in terms of the Fire Emblem games), but I feel like it would be nice to have the option.

I like that you'd bring back Snake, Ice Climbers, and Wolf - as far as Brawl veterans go, they seem to be the most missed, so that would go a long way towards pleasing people.

No problem with your Mario additions - Waluigi seems like he'd be really entertaining, and Paper Mario is quite different from Mario in terms of appearance and abilities, which would help him stand out. For Zelda, I'm not sure about Tingle - maybe the hate's died down, but I recall him being really unpopular outside of Japan. Impa is a good choice, though.

Likewise, your choices for Donkey Kong and Kirby are really solid ones - no complaints there. Haven't played much of the Wario Ware or Yoshi's Island games, so what could Ashley and Poochy do, and why should they be in Smash Bros.? I know that Ashley gets brought up from time to time, but Poochy's a new one, from what I've seen.

For Metroid, I get Sylux, but why have Anthony Higgs over Ridley? I don't usually comment on characters not being there, since everybody has different views on who should or shouldn't be in Smash, but in this case, it seems like having Groose instead of Ganondorf.

I've got no problem with Grovyle, seeing as it would show off a generation that didn't get much focus in Smash, and I believe it was also the focus of the Mystery Dungeon spin-offs, though I could be wrong on that. A Sun/Moon Pokemon seems like jumping the gun (we don't even know what they look like, or if any of them will be really popular), but I suppose it's pretty much inevitable at this point.

I'm not sure what Viridi can do, seeing as I haven't finished Uprising, but she seems like one of the more important characters, so she makes sense. Samurai Goroh, Isabelle, Alph, and Elma all make a ton of sense as far as second characters for their series.

It looks like you've added a good amount of new series, which is a plus. Don't know anything about Swapnote, Rhythm Heaven, Pushmo, or Starfy, so I can't really comment on them. The other ones seem like good choices; if I had to pick some that stand out due to not being there, it would be Isaac from Golden Sun (who has a lot to work with, though given that Golden Sun isn't as well known as it once was, I could see why he wouldn't come to mind) or Wonder Red from the Wonderful 101 (given how close Platinum and Nintendo have been lately).

For third parties, keeping all of the veterans (and bringing back Snake) is a nice touch. Don't know anything about Yokai Watch, so it's hard to comment on Jibanyan. I'm pretty sure that Jack Frost is a Sega-owned character now (seeing as they bought Atlus), and having three Sega characters (Sonic, Bayonetta, and Jack Frost) seems like a bit much.

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All in all, it's a pretty solid roster - while I'm not familiar with a few of the series that were used, the only issues that I have with it are choosing Anthony Higgs over Ridley (seeing as Anthony Higgs is a side character in one game while Ridley is the most recurring boss in the series), and cutting both Lucina and Roy (Marth's really precise spacing isn't for everyone, and it would be good to have alternatives). Aside from that, I don't really have any problems with it, so good job, especially for your first try at this!
 

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Personally I care about repping, so when I see that SEGA has more characters than anyone else, it urks me.
 

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That's your first mistake.
There's nothing wrong with it that I see, it's so that everything gets the attention it warrants.

For example, Mario has the most characters, and F-Zero has the least amount of characters.


Also SEGA does not have more than anyone else.
:4sonic:,:4bayonetta:, Jack Frost
 
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