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2022:
Challenger Pack 13: Steve (Stage: Minecraft). Love it or hate it, Minecraft is a groundbreaking franchise, and Steve's inclusion would give some widespread appeal.
Saying "why?" or "so?" for no good reason other than to be a ****. You did it in the Sirfetch'd thread for me simply posting an idea, and you did it again just now on a rule on MY OWN thread that I posted months ago. If you have nothing productive to say, shut it and move on.
In that thread I was asking why Sirfetch'd shield would block projectiles behind him. Does that reference the game?
Here I was asking what would be bad about lists being full of assist trophies.
I honestly think that with further DLC, Former ATS, bosses, spirits, etc are an option...
That being said, they still need to be candidates worthy of competing with teh big names, so if it happens I only see a couple of the most important ones.
76- Doom guy
77- Crash Bandicot
78- Frisk
79- Steve
80- Shantae
Pack 4 Ultimate overhaul
81- Mii wizard + General miis Overhaul (Free)
82- Waluigi
83- Isaac
84- Bomberman
85- Serperior (Because reasons)
Pack 4e Echo pass.
Echoes but also come with a stage and 6-8 extra tracks
16e- Impa
36e- Dixie Kong
38e- Shadow
46e- Roll
66ee- Trevor Belmont
Pack 4 Mii overhaul:
81 mii wizard, fights with a staff, and spells, and is an MP resource character.
Miis now have 3 sizes (with different proportions)
-Current proportion (Medium)
-Realistic regular proportion (Tall) slightly taller, with smaller heads
-Mario proportions (Short) slightly smaller with bigger heads.
-Mii costumes now come with 8 recolors
-Customizable taunts
-Extra custom moves
Mii costume pack overhaul (now they cost one dollar, come also with one track and one taunt)
Free: Ashley costume, Viridi Costume, NEW*Zelda costume, Vince costume, Gandalf like costume, Mipha costume, Alpaca Costume, Garreg Mach officers academy outfit.
New: Black Mage costume (comes with a FF track), White Mage Costume, (FF track), Tharja costume (FE track), Merric Costume (FE track), Soren Costume (FE track) Ralsei costume (deltarune Track) Toriel Costume (Undertale Track) Sypha Belnades costume (Castlevania Track). Dracula costume (castlevania track) Lora costume (xenoblade C 2 track) Vivian Costume (Paper mario track) Jack Frost (Shin Megami Tensei track)
Free: garreg Mach officers academy costume, Urbosa costume, Vaati costume.
Free: garreg Mach officers academy costume, Daryuk Costume.
New: Tifa costume (FF7 track), Guile Costume (Street fighter track), Sagat costume (SF track) M.Bison Costume (SF track) Cammy costume (SF track) R. Mika Costume (SF track) Metatton costume (Undertale track) Min Min costume (ARMS track) Heihachi costume (tekken track). Kyo costume (KOF track), Iori Yagami costume (KOF track) Rayman Costume (Rayman track). Celeste Costume (celeste track) Super Meat Boy Costume (Super meat Boy track), Demifiend costume (Shin Megami Tensei track)
Free: garreg Mach officers academy costume, Revali Costume.
New: Geno costume (SMRPG track) Claude costume (FE track), Quote costume (Cave story track) Curly costume (Cave Story track), Plague Knight costume (Shovel knight track), Nakkoru costume (Samurai Showdown track)
Pack 5- Second Sons.
81- Alucard (Castle entrance stage)
82- Chun Li (SF3 Chun Li Stage)
83- Zero (Megaman X Stage)
84- Tails (Sonic Adventure 2 stage)
85- Kefka Palazzo (FF VI Stage)
In that thread I was asking why Sirfetch'd shield would block projectiles behind him. Does that reference the game?
Here I was asking what would be bad about lists being full of assist trophies.
Oh ok. You probably should've been more clear with it and just asked the questions themselves. For Sirfetch'd the shield is off to the side rather than in front of him like Link and Hero, so oncoming projectiles could be blocked from behind. For the assist trophies, I put the rule in place because they are already officially disconfirmed and will not happen. It allows for more interesting choices rather than filling the list with disconfirmed characters. I apologize for getting angry earlier.
Steve is not an appealing design in of himself. His addition would not have the effect of "increasing Smash's appeal", since he is such a lazily designed character. His inclusion would not have the effect of "increasing Smash's appeal" since Smash is already the most broadly appealing game it can be for a game in its genre. Even people who play Minecraft don't care about Steve as a character, because he is not a character, he is a skinnable series of rectangles with a very boring default look to incentivize players to reskin him.
Another Page, another wishlist, well, here i go. Also, Say Hello to Blazblue, a Fighting game series, the BETTER choice than Mortal Kombat or Tekken, so, Scoprion, Sub Zero, Heihachi, and Jin Kazama are OUT OF THIS LIST, No way they are coming to my most wanted list!!
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Fighter Pass 1: Smash Original choices
71. Joker (Persona 5) (Confirmed)
72. Hero (Dragon Quest) (Confirmed)
73. Banjo & Kazooie (Confirmed)
74. Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury) (Confirmed)
75. Insufficient Data (Not yet confirmed, under Nintendo's Control and Sakurai's decision)
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Fighter Pass 2: Female First Party Cuties!
76. Lip (Panel de Pon).
Masahiro Sakurai announces that the next 10 fighters are Females, and that they can fight as well as boys do. He first confirms Lip from Panel de Pon to join the battle, and that we can now play Smash Bros. as Nintendo's Adorable Fairy Princess, and he also announces that Nintendo is developing a Panel de Pon game on the Switch with its original cast and setting in all versions without any other reskins. Also, Lip's Spirit Battle becomes a Fighter Battle, transforming her support spirit into a Fighter Spirit! Sakurai also announces that Lip will get a Rival in Smash Bros.
77. Adeleine & Ribbon (Kirby).
Sakurai announces that a 4th Kirby rep is coming to Super Smash Bros. Everyone is expecting to see Bandana Dee, but instead, Adeleine and Ribbon take the cake. The Two Kirby girls will function the same as Banjo-Kazooie and the Ice Climbers. He also states that Bandana Waddle Dee is currently in development.
78. Octoling (Splatoon 2 arsenal).
Sakurai announces that Splatoon's Sequel will be represented with the Octolings as a Playable fighter, but he states thet the Octolings will not be an Echo Fighter to the Inklings, as the Octolings will use a diffrent set of Arsenal. He also states that the Inklings of Splatoon 2 will be spirits replacing the Octolings.
79. Jill (Drill Dozer).
Sakurai announces that Jill from Drill Dozer is coming to Super Smash Bros, since she is NOT an Assist trophy in Ultimate. He also made the BIGGEST Roast ever: Assist Trophies Truly disconfirm a character to become a Fighter in Ultimate, and that they will have to wait for another installment for these Assist trophies to become Fighters. (Sorry Waluigi Fans)
80. Viridi (Kid Icarus). Sakurai announces that Viridi is coming to Smash Bros, but NOT as an Echo Fighter to Lady Palutena, but her own fighter instead. He also gave us a Surprise that Viridi is the ONLY one to get a UNIQUE Palutena's Guidance conversation! Viridi also gets upgraded from Support Spirit to Fighter Spirit, and her Spirit Battle is now a Fighter Battle.
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Fighter Pass 3: Female Third Party Japanese Sweethearts!
81. Arle (Puyo Puyo) (Amitie, Ringo, and Ally as either Alt. Skins or Echo Fighters) (Panel de Pon is getting a Rival!).
Sakurai states that SEGA is getting its 4th franchise representative, Arle from the Hit Puzzle Game series: Puyo Puyo. She works similarly to Lip, but is a fighter of her own. Amitie, Ringo, and Ally are either Alt. Skins or Multi-Echo Fighters for Arle.
82. Load Ran (Twinkle Star Sprites) (We need MOAR SNK Goodies, and what's better than giving Terry a friend?).
Sakurai states that SNK is in need of more Representation, and he announces that Load Ran from Twinkle Star Sprites will fill that role instead of another Fatal Fury fighter, and made a quote that goes like this: Terry Bogard is going to have a friend.
83. Patako Amatsuka (Gal*Gun) (We need Female Waifu Potential here! Smash is for Everyone!).
Sakurai stated that he has been demanded to add a First Person Shooter representative by the Fans, and that they want to see Doomguy and Master Chief, but he decides that Patako from Gal*Gun is the best choice, and she is announced to be the fighter for this genre despite not being the main protagonist of the franchise, but since Tenzou has no visible face, Patako is chosen as the character representing the genre instead.
84. Asuka (Senran Kagura) (Sexy and Beautiful heroine that ALL the Fanboys need!).
Sakurai states that Asuka is joining Super Smash Bros. Ultimate as the FIRST Senran Kagura representative, and that he took inspiration of this from Blazblue, RWBY, and Dead or Alive, since they have SK characters, so he decides to choose Asuka, the main face, to be the SB rep.
85. Neptune (Hyperdimension Neptunia) (We need Compile Heart here!).
Sakurai stated that there have been fan demand of Female characters, so he announces Nepu from the Neptunia Series, and he also annouces that Shantae will be promoted into a Fighter, and Sash Lilac is coming this way for the 4th Fighter Pass. He also states that Asuka and Nepu will meet again.
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Fighter Pass 4: Platformer Superstars!
86. Crash Bandicoot (Coco Bandicoot as Echo).
87. Spyro the Dragon (Alongside Crash too).
88. Rayman (The First European SSB Fighter).
89. Shantae (The 1st Indie platformer Fighter).
90. Sash Lilac (Freedom Planet) (Alongside Shantae).
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Fighter Pass 5: Super Random Shuffle
91. Ragna (Blazblue 1).
92. Astral Chain Protagonist.
93. Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X).
94. Rex & Pyra (Xenoblade Chronicles 2).
95. Frisk (Undertale) (Because Sans Mii Outfit).
And THAT is how i add Super Smash Bros. Fighters! Add Genuine characters that WILL 100.000.000% fit in Ultimately Well to the whole Roster, Characters that are Child Friendly, and Easy to tone down, such as Cute characters and Sexy and Beautiful Ninja Girls with an Absolutely Charming artstyle, fooling people into thinking Asuka is a Child-Friendly fighter, and a SUPER ADORABLE NINTENDO FAIRY PRINCESS like Lip from Panel de Pon, and Terry Bogard's Magician counterpart. Let's also not forget TwinBee and Adeleine+Ribbon for Smash too. And the Final Fighter, What's better to close it with ANOTHER FIRE EMBLEM SWORDSMAN to ROAST The Toxic Smash Fans For ETERNITY!
Steve is not an appealing design in of himself. His addition would not have the effect of "increasing Smash's appeal", since he is such a lazily designed character. His inclusion would not have the effect of "increasing Smash's appeal" since Smash is already the most broadly appealing game it can be for a game in its genre. Even people who play Minecraft don't care about Steve as a character, because he is not a character, he is a skinnable series of rectangles with a very boring default look to incentivize players to reskin him.
I agree about your concern. Not only that, but Steve's inclusion will encourage Poor Play in the Online community. I don't want to see Elite Smash being dominated by Immature kids who jerk around Elite Smash with Steve because that is gonna be ULTIMATELY frustrating, and also, We don't need any FORTNITE nonsense in Super Smash Bros cuz we go Splatoon, and we need Twinkle Star Sprites and TwinBee instead of Minecraft and Fortnite.
Pass 3: (First Party)
81: Dixie Kong
82: Bandana Dee
83: Porky Minch
84: Captain Toad
85: Red/Leaf (takes over for Pokémon Trainer - Squirtle, Charizard, and Ivysaur all get their own spots and Red/Leaf can choose any 3 Pokemon)
Bonus: Assist Trophy Graduation Fighter Pass:
101. Waluigi
102. Spring Man/Ribbon Girl
103. Bomberman
104. Shovel Knight
105. Isaac
106. Midna & Wolf Link
107. Shadow
108. Skull Kid
109. Zero
110. Ashley
Wow, this was hard. I certainly hope they don't cap it at 100, although if they keep up their current DLC rate, that would be 5 years out. I love retro characters, unique movesets, diversity, characters that have historical significance or represent something unique, and characters/franchises that are deserving of time in the spotlight. I tried to limit the list to the more realistic possibilities, but if Master Higgins, Reckless Safety Man, Harry from Teleroboxer, Star Man from Pro Wrestling, Animal Friends from Kirby, Doshin, Mike Jones, Bill Rizer, Ryu Hayabusa, Lip, Pitfall Harry, Goemon, Bubsy, Aiai, Just Dance Coach, Crono, Bartz Klauser, Terra Branford, Professor Layton, Shantae, Dragonborn, Lara Croft, Doctor "Eggman" Robotnik, Heavy Weapons Guy, Balloon Fighter, Snip and Clip, Faith Connors, etc. show up instead of one of these I'd be just as happy.
DLC PASS 6 (this one is a little bit too crazy but honestly I just wanted to include as many weird/internet breaking choices lol) :
Blizzard character (Diablo, Overwatch...)
Scorpion
Lara Croft
Heihachi
Whichever Sony character I'm just out of ideas xD, If I had to choose, Kratos
It's way harder when you can't include echo fighters x)
And it's really hard to project yourself in the future like that when so many new characters will be born in the future :-/
Aside from changing Terry's artwork now that he's confirmed, I removed Ribbon Girl in exchange for Edelgard (ARMS never really grabbed me, no pun intended, and from what I've played of Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Edelgard seems like she'd be a fun tank-like character, given her specialization in axes and heavy armour - I'd find her to be a more interesting inclusion than Byleth). Also, with Sans as a Mii costume, I put Ryu Hayabusa in there - he makes a ton of sense given his long history, and based on the side-scrolling games, he seems like he'd be a natural fit in terms of gameplay.
In case anyone missed my post on page one, Octolings, Tails, and Jeanne would be echo fighters and wouldn't count towards the total of 100 unique characters - they were included to get the roster up to 110.
Steve is not an appealing design in of himself. His addition would not have the effect of "increasing Smash's appeal", since he is such a lazily designed character. His inclusion would not have the effect of "increasing Smash's appeal" since Smash is already the most broadly appealing game it can be for a game in its genre. Even people who play Minecraft don't care about Steve as a character, because he is not a character, he is a skinnable series of rectangles with a very boring default look to incentivize players to reskin him.
I'd end fighter pass 1 with Crash Bandicoot as number 75. This pack needs a strong finish, and Crash is the most iconic and realizable character I can imagine. As for the rest...
Fighter Pass 2 (comes with echo fighters, continues bringing in 3rd party newcomers):
76. Heihachi Mishima w/2e. Funky Kong
77. Phoenix Wright w/14e. Dry Bowser
78. Arle Nadja w/64e. Octoling
79. Ryu Hayabusa w/16e. Impa
80. Doomguy w/54e. Medusa
Fighter Pass 3 (1st party exclusively, last 5 character fighter pass)
81. Bandana Waddle Dee
82. Karate Joe
83. Min Min
84. Rex and Pyra
85. Edelgard
Fighters pass 3: gaming icons clash
86: Ryu hayabusa
87: sol badguy
88: steve
89: nightmare
90: crash bandicoot
Fighters pas 4: Nintendo power!
91: poochy
92: byleth
93: sylux
94: porky
95: Dixie Kong
Fighters pass 5: the grand finale
96: professor Layton
97: Lloyd Irving
98: Leon Kennedy
99: demi fiend
100: bill rizor
The way I numbered them was because sakurai counts echos as their own fighters and Pokémon trainer as one in the base game. And with the 6 dlc characters, that gives us to about 80.
85. Morrigan (Dark Stalkers)
86. Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
87. Doom Guy (Doom)
88. Billy & Jimmy Lee (Double Dragon)
89. Sir Daniel Fortesque (MediEvil)
This may technically not be true.
There was arcade cabinets and flash games as pre-release promotional material.
I don't want Ralph, ever. But just saiyan.
Fighter's Pass Vol. 2: Girls Only!
076. Arle (Puyo Puyo)
076 Echo: Amitie (Puyo Puyo Fever)
077. Haruka Amami (Idolmater)
078. Load Ran (Twinkle Star Sprites)
078 Echo: Time Buttermitt (Twinkle Star Sprites: La Petite Princesse)
079. Asuka (Senran kagura)
080. Neptune (Hyperdimension Neptunia)
081. Reimu Hakurei (Touhou Project)
Fighter's pass 3: Panel de Pon!
082. Lip (Panel de Pon)
082 Echo: Furil (Panel de Pon)
083. Windy (Panel de Pon)
084. Sherbet (Panel de Pon)
085. Thiana (Panel de Pon)
086. Flare (Panel de Pon)
Fighter's pass 4: Undertale
087. Frisk (Chara Alt)
088. Papyrus & Sans (Papyrus fights first, and Sans fights once papyrus' Gimmick Health reaches Zero)
089. Undyne (Becomes Undying if Gimmick Health Bar reaches Zero)
090. Flowey/Asriel (The True Boss!)
Fighter's Pass 5: Spirits Break Free!
064 Echo: Octoling
091. Officer Howard (Astral Chain)
092. Rex & Pyra/Mythra (Xenoblade 2)
093. Bandana Waddle Dee
094. Tails
095. Shantae
With the first Fighters pass completed, and we are getting an Arms rep, this could change up a few rules here (I hope)
Second Fighter’s Pass: Min-Min, Steve, Shantae, Lugia, Adeleine and Geno
As for the rest
Wave three: Sylux, Midbus, Dragapult, Midna and Porky
Wave four: Ray-Man, Bio-Rex, Crash Bandicoot and a few others
Note: this is still a work in progress. Some rules would half to change, at least until something happens in the future
I'll definitely remove the assist trophy rule if Spring Man makes it. For now, it's likely to stay put until we get some news hopefully this week.
The rules are extremely slack outside of no assist trophies, etc. I implemented it so people would look at other available options as a whole rather than loading each pass with assist trophies. If Spring Man makes it though, that rule is getting removed entirely. Developer disconfirmations are still allowed, mainly because Grant Kirkhope faked us out before Banjo was revealed lol. Any developer could be lying when they claim that a character is disconfirmed at this point.
Non video game characters are self explanatory. Smash is meant for video game characters only. Not for Goku, Shrek, Spongebob, Bowsette, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Minions, etc. Other fighting games such as Injustice and Mortal Kombat are fine with this, but Sakurai stated these kinds of characters will never happen in Smash.
The echo fighter rule is in place mainly to prevent people from wasting a slot for an echo fighter of an already existing character in the game. The intention was to potentially add an echo for one of the new characters people selected for a slot.
76 was that Arms girls... now moving right along ...
77. Captain N: the Game Master (Maybe he's not a character from a Vuideogame, but he's a Nintendo owned character about a guy inside videogames, he sneaks in on a technicality.)
78. Toad
79. Ganon (does he count as already in the game if we're using a completley different incarnation? I want the big blue pig guy.)
80. Shantae
81. Mike Jones (Star Tropics)
82. Pauline
83. Pious Agustus
83a. Alex Rovias
84. Style Savy Girl
85. Billy Lee (of the Double Dragons)
85a. Urban Champion
85b. Kunio (with Alex alt)
86. Mach Rider
87. Wart
88. Elite Beat Agents
89. Impa (Hyrule Warriors version preferred, but I'm willing to compromise)
90. Crono
91. Ayumi Tachibana
91a. Ashley Mizuki Robbins (from Trace Memory)
92. Tatanga
93. King Hippo
94. Tails
95. Team Rocket (Jessie and James as a duo)
96. Amazon (Pro Wrestling)
97. Donkey Kong Jr.
97a. Dixie Kong (I'll leave it to you to figure out how that's going to work)
98. Bill Rizer (Contra)
99. Ryu Hayabusa
100. Master Chief
78) Space Invaders [Super retro character, basically synonymous with early video games alongside Pac-Man. Also 1978 is when the game came out]
79) Andy (Advance Wars)
80) Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)
81) Crash Bandicoot
Indie Pass
82) Reimu Hakurei (Touhou Project)
83) Quote (Cave Story) [E: Curly Brace] [I kind of hope that the rights would go back to Pixel, though]
84) Filia (SkullGirls) [Similar thoughts to Quote, keep MikeZ out of it]
85) Octane [Yes, the Rocket League car]
Genre Variation Pass [no platformers or RPGs, all basically new genres]
86) Arle Nadja (Puyo Puyo) or Lip (Panel de Pon) [puzzle]
87) DOOMGuy (DOOM) [FPS]
88) Karate Joe (Rhythm Heaven) [rhythm games]
89) Carmen Sandiego [edutainment]
90) Cooking Mama [cooking :O]
Other picks I’d like
91) Mike Jones (StarTropics)
92) Marco Rossi (Metal Slug) [Alts:Tarma, Eri, Fio...Fio would be my new main]
93) Agumon/Greymon/WarGreymon (Digmon) [maybe his FS is a big Greymon attack that Digivolves into Greymon, then a WarGreymon FS that reverts back to Agumon...I'm unsure, because this is technically 3 characters]
94) Lara Croft (Tomb Raider) [sure]
95) Rayman [played no Rayman games, but he seems cool and fitting]
“Break the Internet” Pass [Hopefully in a positive way and not a disappointing way like another FE Lord would do…]
96) Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
97) Master Chief (Halo)
98) Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
99) Q*Bert [for the Hell of it, and to break up all the gritty characters]
100) Kratos (God of War) or Ratchet & Clank [Ratchet & Clank fit better, but Kratos might garner more reaction?]
These characters just missed it
-Crono w/his Party (Chrono Trigger) [I like Chrono Trigger, but Crono himself wouldn’t be that interesting. However, if his moveset involved his various party members, as well, that could be neat.]
-Jin Kazama (Tekken)/Nightmare (Soul Calibur) [Heihachi basically got deconfirmed, kind of hoping “Tales of” gets it next, but that’s besides the point. Couldn’t decide on Jin or Nightmare for a different Namco fighter, and there are others I would rather have]
-Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear) [Abilities-wise, he’d be kind of bland, being a fiery swordsman, but extra mechanics and content-wise, he’d have something to offer.]
-GTAV crew [Wanted to include in the last pass, but I had too many gritty characters. Also maybe too realistic?]
No order; starting from Steve. Trying to keep assist upgrades to 5 at most
78: Geno
79: Lloyd
80: Crash
81: Ryu Hayabusa
82: Dante
83: Waluigi
84: Master Chief
85: Dixie Kong
86: Sora
87: Chorus Kids
88: Doom Guy
89: Phoenix Wright
90: Monokuma
91: Reimu Hakarei
92: Dr Eggman
93: Porky
94: Shantae
95: Arle
96: Isaac
97:Quote
98: The Chosen Undead
99: Heavy Weapons Guy/ a pokemon trainer style team of scout, heavy and the spy/ the medic
100: Gordon Freeman
(After this one, I stop caring really. These are my main wants. Sad that the real passes were not this great so far. This captures most of the truly wanted characters out there and the ones that I care about. I start digging into the barrel after this group. So effectively FP #1 and FP# 2 on this list is who I would have picked being in Sakurai's place).
Fighter Pass 3:
12. Shantae
13. Terry
14. Min Min
15. Frogger
16. Steve
Fighter Pass 4:
17. Isaac (Golden Sun)
18. Byleth
19. Shovel Knight
20. Prince Fluff (Kirby)
21. Jill Valentine
27. Lloyd Irving
28. Dig-Dug
29. Professor Layton
30. Epic Mickey (From Epic Mickey Series. Mickey Mouse vs. Mario would be great)
BTW, I would be fine keeping Mii Gunner as Tails and just redo the Tails and Knuckles Mii Costumes to be deluxe and match their characters as well as having custom Mii Costume victory themes to have the Sonic victory theme play when they win.
82: Dwight Fairfield
82e: Claudette Morel
83: Fancy Pants
84: Chell from Portal
85: Ori from Ori and The Blind Forrest
86: Bandanna Waddle Dee
87: Dante
88: Doomguy
89: Fulgor from Killer Instinct
90: Kazuma Kiryu
90e: Goro Majima
91: Beat from JSR
91e: Gum from JSR
92: Spyro The Dragon
93: Portal Master from Skylanders
94: Heihachi Mishima from Tekken
95: Frankie the Dog from the jumpstart games
96: Paper Mario
97: Shantae
98: Geno
99: Scorpion
99e: Sub-Zero
100: James Bond from Golden Eye 007
100a (alternative option): Tabuu from Super Smash Bros. Brawl
FP 2:
76: Min Min
77: Steve
77e: Alex: I kinda want Steve to have 6 Steve outfits with Zombie and Enderman, while Alex also has 6 Alex outfits with Skeleton and Villager. Literally no difference in moveset, just here for more skins
78: Master Chief: everyone makes arbitrary rules on what can and can't go in; and while I agree with some and follow the trend, I think it'd be amazing if Sakurai just shattered a popular one off the get go. I do in fact love Master Chief, I grew up on Halo and not Doom, but I wanted Master Chief to come right after Steve to really shatter expectations. "2 Microsoft DLC in a row?" "Nani!?" Master Chief would be fun, iconic, and community shattering, and I've been waiting a long time to get my popcorn out (I mean, Minecraft Steve Minecraft just got announced, but I like Popcorn and don't like movies)
79: Ryu Hayabusa: I just want a Ninja. Shiek doesn't count since she's just a princess in a clever disquise.
80: Crash Bandicoot: yeet
81: Rayman: I wanted Rayman for the longest time, he might not be my number #1 pick but he's amazing. He has tons of potential for movesets, he's iconic, he's wanted by tons of people. I feel like Rayman, from popularity and fun moveset wise, along with Ubisoft probably allowing it, would make Rayman a perfect end to Smash Ultimate... wait, there's another fighter pass?
FP 3:
82: Dwight Fairfield: I feel like someone from DbD would be great for a surprise, out of nowhere Fighter Pack starter. As long as Fighter Pack 3 wasn't announced or hinted at during FP 2 ended. Popular as a character, just not really in the smash scene at all. Would be a unique addition. Could possibly be meme'd on, depending on his outfits. What if it was the first 4 original male survivors, Dwight, Jake, Ace, and David get a default and unique outfit. Dwight would be one of the newest characters from the game scene, but his game really defined the asymmetrical horror genre, which is admittedly weak right now, but I'm sure during FP3 it'd be a thriving market.)
82e: Claudette Morel: insert what I said above, the first 4 original females were Claudette Morel, Meg Thomas, Nea Karlsson, and Feng Min, so they get their default and a special skin added.
83: Fancy Pants from Fancy Pants: A choice I assumed none expected, Fancy Pants will be THE Flash Game rep. Fancy pants is epic
84: Chell from Portal: Chell from portal would easily be one of the more unique additions, with her companion cube, turrets, and obvious portal gun, Chell (I think her name was) would bring chaos to the battlefield of even more chaos.
85: Ori from Ori and The Blind Forest: Yes
86: Bandanna Waddle Dee: Would be neat
87: Dante: Mainly here because of fan popularity, and so I can slap on the infamous logo on the box of ultimate. you know the one.
FP 4:
88: Doomguy: I didn't delay him as I thought he and Master Chief would be too similar, no. Played the games, they do play differently, Doomguy and Master Chief wouldn't be samey. I just really don't care about Doomguy, I don't care about shooters at all really. Only reason I like and want the Chief was because I grew up with him. But anyway, Doomguy starting Fighter Pass 4 would be bonkers.
89: Fulgore from Killer Instinct
90: Kazuma Kiryu: he would be nice
90e: Goro Majima: just give him a dagger and make him less powerful, that'll definitely work
91: Beat from JSR: Throwback to when we did 2 microsoft DLC in a row, doing it again in case the community thought it was a fluke. This'll probably be the last time it does happen, but the community might not know that.
91e: Gum: Faster but Less Powerful.
92: Spyro the Dragon: Spyro The Dragon
FP 5:
93: Portal Master (Skylander Franchise) : ...please, hear me out for a second. Skylanders basically created the toy-to-life genre, and while the gimmick got old, it revolutionized a genre. Amiibo might not be where it is today because of Skylanders. The "Young Portal Master" could control 4 Skylanders, so basically it's paid pokemon trainer but he has another pokemon and a trainer ain't in the background. Portal Master could control Stealth Elf, Crusher, Squid Person from Swap Force's top part and the bottom half of Blast Zone, and the Imaginator on the box art of Skylanders Imaginators. All of these were chosen to represent the time and age of skylanders (besides the lame one where you captured things with crystals, I didn't know how you could do it and that was a pretty weak game.) Skylanders would probably be 12 years old at this point.
94: Heihachi Mishima from Tekken: Mainly here for more hype for fighter 99, I don't care about Tekken
95: Frankie from the Jumpstart games: obviously a joke, but I'd like at least one preschool kids game character to get into smash at one point, as it is a genre of games. I chose Frankie, the dog, because I grew up on a game he was in (can't remember, but it was an early 3D computer game.)
96: Paper Mario: epic
97: Shantae: Legally, you never mentioned Spirits, OP, hahahahah get beaned. Anyways, Shantae might've came too late for hope for indies, but Shantae would still be hype as heck. What else can I say about Shantae that hasn't been said, she'd make an excellent fighter, she has a long and healthy relationship with Nintendo, and really popular. Also, FP 6 would be announced as its final final final pack, but we'd already know it'd only have 3 fighters in.
FP 6: (it has the least amount, but the characters are supposed to make such an impact it'll change Smash entirely. All 3 are supposed to be characters that nearly everyone wants and will not only be happy with, but are game buying worth)
98: Geno: gonna be honest, I never really supported Geno, I think he's overrated and overhyped. However, I do acknowledge how many people want him and how he's extremely popular for Smash. I feel like making him the first out of the 3 last DLC would just be amazing for hype. Like, who could possibly be better than Geno? What's next? All the while people speculate the next 2, and they have no idea what'll hit them.
99: Scorpion from Mortal Kombat: We got Ryu, Terry, and Fulgore, and Heihachi and now... He's here. Scorpion was purposely pushed off for extra hype potential. Scorpion is (I think) the last fighting game champ that wasn't in, and is also available to please the masses. I don't know how to describe it, but I feel like almost nobody would be angry at Scorpion, except for Sub-Zero fans... who'll be pleased 1 minute into the trailer because...
99e: Sub-Zero: Sub and Scorpion would share a lot of moves, only having different specials and grabs.
For #100, I tried my hardest to think of someone out of left field but respected. Someone who had a major change on video games, but isn't really tossed around when people think of smash fighters. This may be a huge stretch, but this is theoretical anyway, so tell me if y'all think I should not have done this.
100: James Bond from Golden Eye 007: Now I know, absolutely crazy but can you let me at least try to pull something out of myGolden Eye 007 is known critically as one of the most influential games of all time, and was the 3rd best selling N64 game (beaten only by 2 Mario games). It really showed how FPS games weren't just for PC, and any console could play it. To quote Wikipedia, here's other accomplishments it did.
pioneering and popularising the now-standard inclusion of scoped sniper rifles in video games
GoldenEye 007 introduced stealth elements not seen in previous first-person shooter games.
The game's use of realistic gameplay, which contrasted with the approaches taken by Doom-clones, and introduction of multiplayer deathmatch on a console are often credited for having revolutionised the genre.
A movie tie-in did, or was nearly responsible for, all of these 3 things. Also, for moves, iirc The original Jame Bond books are in the public domain, so Sakurai (or whoever, assuming Sakurai is having his break) can legally take from the books. I imagined if he got in, he'd have to be like Steve, nearly ripped out of his game. He'd be really blocky, and looks kinda weird, but while James can certainly not be, I feel it'd be more faithful to do it like this. Another thing is that, iirc, Sakurai wanted Bond in Melee but couldn't because of licenses. If that gets resolved, maybe... James Bond might not be a video game character, but he deserves a spot in smash bros.
And if y'all still telling me James Bond doesn't deserve recognition amongst Video Game's hall of legends, then idk add Smash Brawl's boss, Tabuu.
100a (alternative): Tabuu from Subspace Emmisary: Another stretch, but I'm going to assume you mean Ultimate bosses, OP. A smash boss or a 4th party are the only characters I can imagine who could end smash bros. peacefully. The game would be so huge, a simple 3rd party couldn't close it off nice. Think Crash or Rayman, they are amazing, but they couldn't end Smash without back lash. I feel like Master and Crazy hand (who are disqualified), Tabuu, or James Bond are the only characters that could cap off the 100 fighter roster nicely.
82:Sylux/Metroid<Personal Choice Next game maybe
83:Black Shadow
84:Dixie Kong
85:Ark (Terranigma)X
86: Vaati X
87:Larra Croft
88:Doomguy
89:Magolor X
90: Goron X
91: Porky XX
Echo Meta Knight: Galacta Knight
92:Crono X
93:Giovanni (pokemon)
94:The Human (Undertale) X
95: Geno + Mallow
96:Jibanyan X
97:Link Gameboy Color/ Links Awekening Remake (Would Replace Young and Toon-Link in Sequel Fav Link Sorry XX
97:Ralph (Oracle of Ages) < High Bias Pick X
98:Vi Kabbu Leif (Bug Fables) X
99:Dante
100: Dark Matter XXX
Some Picks are for others i hope you like Them and Ralph was a Joke at least to a degree
78. Impa (based on Age of Calamity, comes with Zelda costumes as BOTW Zelda and Hero of Time Link)
79. Dixie Kong
80. Felix with Echo Matthew (Isaac's brother in law and son, same basic moveset)
81. Monster Hunter
82. Amaterasu
83. Ryu Hayabusa
84. Bandana Dee
85. Rex & Pyra or Elma
86. Paper Mario
87. Ori
88. Geno
89. Nightmare / Siegfried
90. Cranky Kong
91. Conker
92. Rayman
93. Lara Croft
94. Skull Kid
95. Crash Bandicoot
96. Fiora
97. Urbosa
98. Balloon Fighter
99. Elite Beat Agents
100. Captain Falcon's mother
Impa from Age of Calamity is also nice, at least better than 1 of the Champions espacily Urbosa!
But she could also be a Shiek Echo maybe with OOT/SS Design would open up Place for other Zelda Characters aswell!
Impa from Age of Calamity is also nice, at least better than 1 of the Champions espacily Urbosa!
But she could also be a Shiek Echo maybe with OOT/SS Design would open up Place for other Zelda Characters aswell!
I didnt say anything against her being original only I would Prefer Impa(Echo)+Vaati maybe
over just Impa but if you want her too be Unique fine!
Skull Kid is my 2nd Choice for a Zelda Baddie after Vaati but I would be pleased with him!
Also I didnt read your entire Post Sorry! (M Dumb)
But Gerudos appeared in 4 Zelda Games and Gorons in atleast 10 this is the only Reason why I prefer Daruk/MIpha and Revali(He Bird, Urbosa not Bird)