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if i may, there's actually a thread on these boards that explain different ways to reverse your KO punch:
ahh, haha... incidentally, IJUST found that thread and was in the midst of editing my post to address it, but for the life of me cannot remember the code for strikethroughs... I gave up and tacked on my edit, but too late.
whoa, first time i'm seeing thomau5. he's pretty legit! good looking out.
agreed. i have also begun to personally explore aerials for mac, and it lets him get combos and strings in ways that aren't explored enough by mac players. personally i would recommend this video instead, if people haven't seen it yet:
Yeah, I'm still really disappointed in myself for not being able to close that set out with an upset, especially when I was feeling on top of my game, but there's nothing I can do about it now. In any case, thanks, I've been trying to rep Mac as best I can out here. Least I learned a lot about those match ups I guess.
Recently found out that since perfectly buffered B-air autocancels, RAR B-air(Potentially F-air as well?)into immediate side B on landing at ~100% from center stage is a kill combo that connects on a tech miss or tech in place. They're not worthless.
is the dair lock after a nair foostool always a guaranteed followup? cause i feel i only can land it like half of the time. also, the only move safe on shield for mac on this point is Dtilt if spaced right?
^ggs man. my tourney experience is extremely limited so you don't have to take what i say as if it carries any weight, but i felt like either A) you weren't familiar with the diddy/pikachu/sheik matchups (and very aggressive playstyles at that) ; or B) the pressure got to you and you couldn't read things (that pikachu b-air whiff when you had the ko punch!). anyway, i think how you played the link match was great, and i would have thought that would have carried over into some of your other matches. the 2nd pikachu match on fd was good too. vs sheik, i know the pressure gets overwhelming when you get swiped across the screen like that, but every sheik goes for those, and you could tell he was waiting for you to use your second jump to steal it. i think you could work on your reading skills, and your DI/SDI -- i think you could've survived at least 2 or 3 of those stocks in those matches if you DI'd properly. overall though, no worries man, keep it up. those are tough matchups for mac, but i'm sure you'll do better next time.
yeah, playstyles vary a lot between different mac players, but i find my aggressive style stems from my idea that if im not moving, im vulnerable. i have been working on "slowing it down" with mac, as an aggro approach is only effective on an opponent who is under pressure, or if you are in his head or looking for a read. To be frank, safe pressure is still difficult with little mac, as his dtilt is not safe if its not spaced. here is a good example:
I'll test this out later to see for sure how it is. I'll edit this post when I have he info.
it is me but idk what i was doing this game. i was just throwing out random **** for some reason cuz i didn't play in like 4 months before going there cuz my friend dragged me along. im gonna start playing smash more again
- At 2:15 mark I read his Up Smash and countered it for his last stock, and this match is an example of 1 way I deal with players who hug the edge of the stage. - playing a patient style was the reason why I won this match with ease.
&good stuff man! you can kind of see the 'pre-patch-ness' of these games -- i was expecting a lot more shieldstun on a couple hits but you guys were dropping shield instantly for punishes in ways that you probably couldn't do now.I have a good amount of set replays from the weekly I attend from pre-1.1.1, but just to keep it concise(and ignore the ones where I did bad), I'll just post 2.
https://youtu.be/FSx8nJbnpQ8 vs
This was against a ranked player in NE, currently 7th IIRC. Not much to note against his Shiek, I just did the typical Down-tilt-a-whole-lot-cause-that's-damage. Even the commentator said it, it was essentially just a pocket Shiek, no real huge things to note about the MU here. His falcon is a very aggressive one, so I was able to get a lot of Down angled Fsmashes&tilt combos. Also, the benefits&risks of saving your jump for use late in recovery are both shown(good @4:35, bad @5:07). Additionally, a really important factor of the Mac/Falcon matchup is driving the Falcon offstage and catching the Up B w/Dsmash for early kills.
https://youtu.be/gb8VYBP4gPM vs
Game 1 I goofed pretty bad, attempting to tech on the ground that wasn't there without a jump. Game 2 was…something else altogether. Game 3 was a much closer match, where I was able to clutch it out with D-tilt Up B. Essentially, against an aggressive Shiek, save your 'Macdash' baits for when it really counts, as a Shiek's approaching F-air can be punished on whiff if you roll back. This gives you a free D-tilt setup, leading into D-tilt>KO punch or D-tilt>Up B. Try to only bait an approaching fair with a Macdash when you have a KO punch or when they're at death % to Dtilt>Up B. Also, when you get CP'd to DL, you can still use those platforms for tech chases or jab locks, though they're much harder/more unlikely to get.
good work man. btw, just want to say, if you guys find my critique/analysis annoying or not helpful, let me know that you guys don't care to hear my input on these tourney matches (because i honestly don't go to tourneys due to work and taking care of my baby). i won't be offended -- i'm trying to help, but if i'm really not helping i don't want to be that guy.
re how to use dance trotting, i would say try this: any time you feel like rolling backwards, you could instead mix-up with a dance trot in the same direction you would have back rolled and it will often throw off the opponent's sense of timing since it looks like a back roll but actually allows you to punish things a lot earlier than if you back rolled. shameless plug, here's some examples from *groan* for glory of how i use them (youtube timestamp isn't working for some reason... skip to 2:35). try that 'back roll mentality' and see if it works for you.
Don't worry you're not that guy thanks for the critique!
Hmmm. Hitting with the backside and hitting with the front side are two different timings by 7 frames. While yes if I go for the backside it is much safer it is also nearly impossible to time since you would have to hit it 7 frames earlier, 7 frames that could be used to compensate for reaction time. You have to keep in mind that some recoveries don't even take 17 frames before they hit the ledge and reacting alone takes 12 frames unless you really are just reading it. The front hit on the other hand comes out on frame 10 and while it may not seem like much of a difference, only 7 frames, that is the difference between landing it on reaction vs. hard read. Being able to release the downsmash on reaction is already very difficult but not impossible however every moment of human processing power is vital, and if I have 7 less frames to react to it, then I lose what is essentially 3/4ths of my processing power and lose alot of accuracy on what is already a very minuscule target. In short yes it is possible, yes it is safer, but no it is not practical unless you are a super-AI in human form, if that is the case let me borrow your time machine. If anyone needs a better analogy let me know.
hm. you may be right on the jab thing although looking back at the match it seems to be that he hit me during the spot-dodge recovery rather than the K.O. punch startup.
Maybe I could've? t&c has a low ceiling but we were both at very low percents and up b only has okay base knockback so I don't think it would've killed. If I whiffed then I could've gotten hard punished and then it would be me dying below 60% and I'm not the type to take that big of a risk.
player missed registration so we did it for him, and i did counterpick but still some good games for people to analyze.
I've tested and used this a lot in tournament, that would have certainly killed Ness at that height w/slight rage&T&C's blastzones. I'll double check later and edit this with exact %s, but I'm very confident in my claim. Also, the risk is definitely there, but at the percent you were at there was nothing Ness could do to kill, even on the top platform(Maybe PKthunder into you, but I don't think he'd have the presence of mind to do something that crazy on reaction). Additionally, Mac's fall speed is deceptive, so if you FF the special fall, you can get to the ground and put that shield up much quicker than you(and certainly your opponent) would expect. Not the safest/best option, but a rewarding one. That said, if you're not a risk taker and mostly play safe, patient Mac, then I'd understand not using this.
alphicans' fundamentals are absolutely on point. i haven't seen recent vids of him so this was a nice surprise. good looking out dezmu. on that last stock i really liked his in-advantage movement -- followed up an ftilt with a 'tech chase' dair autocanceled into reverse ftilt, that was cute. and then shortly thereafter fastfalling from the platform and ftilting, just looked really precise. very little 'flash' in his play -- i didn't see any dance trotting, saw like one perfect pivot while waiting for ninjalink to come back, but 'flash' just for the sake of flash will kill mac, so good on him. awesome to see alphicans still rep mac nation.
alphicans putting on a survival-don't-use-your-second-jump clinic. lol. amazing stock-life here. great look for mac, full marks.
