I want attention (videos)

[KirbyKaze]

Kind of old but w/e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFAD75eg1ns&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY_SOA54E-o&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px9KfleRwP4&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpy6ruKE3jY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n5T6uWBQ4k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIOuSyVeRKo&feature=related

Say stuff about how I'm bad.

 

[LooksLikePit]

you're bad

 

[KirbyKaze]

*jumps off a cliff*

/emo

 

[pockyD]

i'm still annoyed that people don't know how to spell 'sheik'

 

[Bob Money]

Good stuff overall. Just some honest criticism here.

Vs Falco I'd like to see you mix in a little powershielding. It seems you had the same response when he starting lasering (Jumping in place) Basically stay on the ground more and bait his approaches. WD out of shield a little more when he pressures your shield., gets you some free openings. Power shield to Wd out of shield to boot grab etc.

I felt you beat him because you played smarter overall not because you knew the falco match up very well.
Last match vs Blunted I think you played your best seems like you started to WD out of your shield more.

I also feel you took alot of uneeded percent by going after Blunted with a stock lead. Try to milk your lead with some needles and baits for some grabs.

Your fox game is amazing.

Great Shiek, def top 5 in the world.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Good stuff overall. Just some honest criticism here.

Vs Falco I'd like to see you mix in a little powershielding. It seems you had the same response when he starting lasering (Jumping in place) Basically stay on the ground more and bait his approaches. WD out of shield a little more when he pressures your shield., gets you some free openings. Power shield to Wd out of shield to boot grab etc.

I felt you beat him because you played smarter overall not because you knew the falco match up very well.
Last match vs Blunted I think you played your best seems like you started to WD out of your shield more.

I also feel you took alot of uneeded percent by going after Blunted with a stock lead. Try to milk your lead with some needles and baits for some grabs.

I'm completely horrific and awful against Falco so this is actually very useful.

Thank you.

 

[Kira-]

I saw you vs Raynex, not really sure what to say though. Your combos and use of uptilt and general spacing while approaching is really good but I feel like Raynex doesn't know the matchup too well. His spacing when doing fullhops seems kinda off (he's almost directly above you instead of abusing bair range/priority), and he seems to run into your moves a lot, although that's probably because you know what he's gonna do.

I've been meaning to watch you vs BO10 too but just haven't gotten around to it, I will soon though

 

[KirbyKaze]

Yeah, I think he needs to Bair more against Sheik.

But he and Unknown keep telling me it doesn't work.

The only Fox sans Unknown that has ever made me feel unsure of what to do in the matchup is Zgetto and it was largely because I couldn't approach him and because he never went for anything risky with his combos. It was marvelous. U-throw Bair. When I landed on a platform, he'd Bair me again (if I was stunned when I hit the platform, he never missed it because he'd wait for my tech and react). If I didn't hit the platform, he'd stalk my landing with dash dance and punish my Nairs/Bairs with U-throw Bair, or he'd Shine --> U-throw Bair if I did nothing. Going for a platform via double jump did very little. He'd just wait. Maybe toss a few lasers. Extremely patient.

I wish I'd played him in friendlies so I could figure out what to do against such a patient, non-risk style.

Well, that was quite off-topic.

 

[Lawrencelot]

How many stocks did you manage to get off of Zgetto? I didn't play against him too often, but he indeed does very few risky things. The only thing I can do against him is techchase

 

[KirbyKaze]

he 2-stocked me and 1-stocked me.

 

[Kira-]

All I can say is I can't believe how ridiculously consistent your techchasing is O_o It's hard to give tips cause whenever you knock him down you kill him lol

ummm i would run up, powershield to grab/nair more

and always backthrow near the ledge. i feel like it's an automatic death
and short hop fair over lasers when close to them

now that i think about it, i think your spacing when approaching is a little off. you always seem to get hit by random nairs he's throwing out when you're jumping or whatever

but your reactions are excellent. im really impressed by that. i would shield more and be more patient but i think that's a style difference more than anything. but yeah i would just say powershield more and try not to get hit by random hits lol. if that helps at all

i dunno you're really good

 

[KirbyKaze]

That all helps. I'm not sure how to space vs Falco so that is all useful.

I usually mean to B-throw near the edge but I got controller'd. I got controller'd a lot against RaynEX too.

I've been working on powershielding now that my brother has picked up Falco and is trying to get back into Melee casually so I get practice. I will test and refine my spacing with him and then try it against high level players. I will also work on power waveshields.

My tech chasing is usually better than this, actually. A lot of dash attacks were meant to be boost grabs.

I really wish I had your spacing vs Falco.

 

[ArcNatural]

My tech chasing is usually better than this, actually. A lot of dash attacks were meant to be boost grabs.

I really wish I had your spacing vs Falco.

What's awesome about this is if you mess up the grab at least you dash attack. That's better than whiffing alltogether unless it's low % and they cc it.

 

[KirbyKaze]

It is awesome that I at least get something. However, they all ASDI down at low percent and get-up attack during my lag. All of them. And it fills me with rage.

 

[Kira-]

I've been working on powershielding now that my brother has picked up Falco and is trying to get back into Melee casually so I get practice. I will test and refine my spacing with him and then try it against high level players. I will also work on power waveshields.

Powershielding is much easier when you're running towards them

what are power waveshields?

My tech chasing is usually better than this, actually. A lot of dash attacks were meant to be boost grabs.

I know. This is what scares me.

I really wish I had your spacing vs Falco.

I think more than anything I play based off the spacing that they are at, rather than trying to control what situation I put myself it. I've always played somewhat reactionary in all fighting games, so instead of trying to get into a specific spacing for myself, i have an answer based on where they decide/end up positioning themselves.

It is awesome that I at least get something. However, they all ASDI down at low percent and get-up attack during my lag. All of them. And it fills me with rage.

lol

 

[KirbyKaze]

Powershielding is much easier when you're running towards them

what are power waveshields?

It was kind of a joke, kind of serious. It's not a real term to my knowledge. The other day I was screwing around with my brother's Falco and he fired a bunch of lasers and I PSed them and he jumped over them and kept shooting so I PSed them and WDed forward and PSed again, then WDed forward again, and then I screwed up but he started laughing and we called it powerwaveshielding because it was the longest one-word name for it we could think of without it being completely stupid.

But basically I just want to get comfortable enough to be able to wavedash out of powershields into more powershields if Falco jumps over the PSed lasers. I think I've seen Diakonos do it with Marth so I don't think there's any reason it wouldn't work with Sheik.

I know. This is what scares me.

Ah. I see.

I think more than anything I play based off the spacing that they are at, rather than trying to control what situation I put myself it. I've always played somewhat reactionary in all fighting games, so instead of trying to get into a specific spacing for myself, i have an answer based on where they decide/end up positioning themselves.

This also makes sense. I'm normally heavy reactionary but Falco makes me feel compelled to be the aggressor. I think this may be part of why I'm bad against him -- it's completely against what I normally try to do. It's also why I like Peach against him a lot (even though my Peach is completely horrible). This is very useful input, I will likely try to incorporate it.

Thank you.

^___^

 

[Kira-]

hey also have you ever played Lovage?

 

[KirbyKaze]

hey also have you ever played Lovage?

I had him in R3 Pools at Pound.

 

[Kira-]

dude teach me lol

edit - when do you decide to fullhop?

 

[KirbyKaze]

You teach me Falco and Peach, I'll teach you Fox and tech chasing.

Deal?

I don't really know when I full jump. I think I do it too much, actually.

 

[Kira-]

That's a bargain =)

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

i'm still annoyed that people don't know how to spell 'sheik'

I hate it too. Even smashboards has it wrong.

:sheik:

:shiek:

:shiek:

 

[bladeofapollo]

People like you make me want to play Sheik. Your style is simply amazing to watch.

 

[Ministry]

nair out of sheild more david
and run up and sheild agasint him hopefully u will get the power sheild close to him and u can capitilize

 

[Kira-]

yeah that's a good place to start

run up (power)shield the laser

if close, grab

if kinda close, wait for aerial - if early aerial shield grab, if late aerial, nair oos after shine. if they do super fast nair immediately after shine to stop your nair oos then just short hop slap cause they have to pull away (mango-style) or they get shield grabbed

if far away, nair oos to stop their approach (doesn't work if they're kinda close and do nair as fast as possible after the laser), or wavedash forward/backward (i only do forward if they like to do early dair behind my shield to uptilt or something. this lets me avoid uptilt pressure that i cant punish). or just like jump to a platform or whatever, start over. OR short hop over their next laser and slap if they don't approach / decide to shoot another standing laser

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

if kinda close, wait for aerial - if early aerial shield grab, if late aerial, nair oos after shine. if they do super fast nair immediately after shine to stop your nair oos then just short hop slap cause they have to pull away (mango-style) or they get shield grabbed

Wouldn't it be better to sh slap OoS after the shine because it works in both situations?

Not that i have experience in this, but wouldn't sh slap not work vs early nair -> fade away? The nair would hit where your shield was, aka hit you, and then get out of range from retaliation

 

[Kira-]

Wouldn't it be better to sh slap OoS after the shine because it works in both situations?

Not that i have experience in this, but wouldn't sh slap not work vs early nair -> fade away? The nair would hit where your shield was, aka hit you, and then get out of range from retaliation

Oh, what I meant was to just short hop forward, falling slap. You probably won't hit them (they'll get their shield out in time if they just hold it) but it switches the advantages position to you. I actually don't do this too often, wavedashing out of shield is like ingrained into my system but either one is fine

 

[Ministry]

if your sheilding close to falco but not right next to him, you can time his aproach so u can nair oos over his laser and space your nair so the front hitbox hits him then u can grab and ****. its better when hes higher percent so he cant CC **** u. GL AT APEX DAVID WINWINWINWIN

 

[G U R U]

Good matches David. Hopefully my Sheik will be as good as yours one day :embarrass

 

[soap]

i like your jab game

 

[KirbyKaze]

A lot of those were unintentional, but it's okay to jab people sometimes and see if they'll do something stupid and then punish it.

One of the better tricks out there, at any rate.

 

[Kira-]

I'm of the opinion that jabs aren't that good really. Just me?

 

[KirbyKaze]

I don't like them but they have their uses. And I don't mean that in the way that Sheik's F-smash has its "uses". I mean they're sometimes legitimately the best move available, but it's heavily situational.

 

[soap]

rapid jab is legit

 

[JesiahTEG]

You're so good David

 

[thesage]

camp more. IDK ur much better than me.