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I hope you weren't talking to me. I like Pictochat as a "for kicks" stage, and I adapt to it very well. I just think it should be reconsidered.
on the official list, what are the reason stated for the counter-pick/neutral/bam/what ever the stage's legality is.
They're banned because a fast character can score one hit on someone then run away for the rest of the match and win, being able to run in a circle.
Yeah, I worded that horribly. Let me explain.
A ray gun gives one character a new ability. A stage changing gives both characters the same change. It's just that some characters have that change more advantageous than others.
Agreed. You can be a great player on 75M, but it's still FOREVER away from being a good tournament stage.
I'm pretty sure there are "safe zones" where you can be sure that you aren't hit by anything during any of the transformations
Why is everyone mentioning this as being a broken stage for DDD?Borderline CP. Despite the fact that the hazards are predictable, they are exploitable. For Example, I used Yoshi on this stage. When I grabbed my foe, I saw the stage change to the drawing that has 4 spikes.
I didn't throw him but he still died from the spikes due to grab release forcing him to a spike.
He was still in the grab break state when he got hit by the spikes so it was inescapable.
You can also do this on this drawing too. Yoshi can do this on the whole cast as well as Kirby and Dedede with Inhale and Swallow.
Also, These drawings are heaven for Dedede because he can CG against the drawings' walls until they disappear. They may be temporary, but his opponent will end up with a lot of damage.
I'm sure there are more exploits than these.
Phanna has a picture somewhere of all the hazardous transformations superemposed over each other. I'll see if I can find it.
There are 27 transformations. 5 do damage, only 2 (if that) can kill you unless you're bad at DI.
Good thing it isn't horribly horribly obvious!
Go nuts. It's not that big a deal because it won't always show up and in a normal match there's not enough time for a full rotation so if it shows up once, it won't show up again.These 2 drawings can kill you even IF you DI and MC.
Once you are over 135% and you are hit by these, you are dead.
As I said, you can get forced into these by jump grab release. Yoshi can do this on the whole cast and Snake can do this on many characters as well.
If you keep this as a CP, I will exploit this like crazy.
Don't forget your opponent can just run away from you the entire tranformation.
Holy god plese do!!!!!!!!!!
That's insanely awesome. It also turns Pictochat into a fight to control the left side on the stage... or does it? The other obstacles could force/ give you a good reason to move to another place, as well as the fact that staying on the left side while a new hazard spawns can still be very dangerous if the wrong thing shows up (i.e. Line/wall when your opponent is D3).
I think the actual zone is slightly smaller since the plant's head does, extend down, but good work. Now it's a matter of left-stage playing to play defensive, or whole stage playing to hazard your opponent.
Kirby has a glitch that only works on the right side of the stage, so it makes for some interesting mid-match decisions.
yes indeed xDI made one for myself:
Excluding the sides, and the air, the blue is the safest ground area when a transformation begins.
Suddenly I realize how awesome this info is.
What is that glitch? I've heard of it but haven't found anything concrete on what it is. Something about his down-b hitbox becoming really large or something?
Basically just use Kirby's down B on the right edge and it'll keep unleashing the ground hitbox for as long as the stone lasts.
Yeah, it's really not that hard to see coming, or to just wait and hit Kirby out of it.
So Meno, you're positive that the cart always spawns on the right side of the halfpipe?I made one for myself:
Excluding the sides, and the air, the blue is the safest ground area when a transformation begins.
Suddenly I realize how awesome this info is.
No, but as long as the character is short enough to fit into the safety zone it shouldn't matter where it spawns. Though I'm not sure about the likes of Ganondorf...
Yup.
I'd like to know where it appears since that's what we really care about with that picture, but I have to go to bed now.
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!! K.K. songs are great sir!
