I give up

[-RedShadow]

First and foremost, I just want to apologize to everyone who attended HOBO 28 this past weekend. I feel as though my actions were completely unprofessional and immature, and for that I'm sorry for making myself [once again] look like a complete moron.

Recently, I've made an important discovery about myself: I can't have fun with Smash anymore. Every match I play, whether it's tournament, money match or just a friendly, I find myself always trying to win, never trying to learn anything from my mistakes, just win. If you want to be part of this community (or any gaming community in general), you want to avoid this mindset as much as you can. If you don't, you may find yourself being cast out and thought of as a sore loser or a nobody. Ever since I've started playing smash competitively I've known this, but I could never put this concept into practice because I'm too competitive, pig-headed and antisocial.

But I'm not here to make excuses for my actions. I'm not here to garner attention on these forums. I'm posting this as an opportunity to apologize to the TX community as a whole. I'm not improving at all (I may have gotten worse, in fact), and I feel as though I'm holding TX back in more ways than one. All I've ever wanted was to be considered a player who could hold his own against the best in the nation/world, not someone who was only known for acting like a **** fool at every tournament he goes to.

I've come to a decision. After MLG Dallas I'm going to quit. The South as a whole has already grown into a national threat without me, and I don't want to make TX look stupid if I ever go to a national.

I hope to see everyone @ MLG, and I wish the TX community the best beyond that.

 

[Zigsta]

Jamal, major props to you for having the courage to come out and say this in the first place. A lot of people would just quit without saying a word under the same circumstances.

That said, you're putting way too much pressure on yourself, and in my eyes, it's easily fixable.

You want to become a player well-known for his skills. That's a good thing, and an admirable one at that. There's two ways to achieve this goal: 1) Crush people at Brawl 2) Be social with people

Frankly, you don't fit the bill for number 1. No shame in that--few people do. Personally, I played it by number 2. By just talking with people, especially about non-Smash related topics, they'll get to know you more as a person, and vice-versa. And then that person will remember you more than if you hadn't talked to them. And by getting someone to know you as a person more, they're more invested in seeing you grow as a person and a player.

Like it or not, you've actually gotten the hardest part done with: People know you! True, you're known as the guy who rages, but you're absolutely not a Nobody. Pretty sure no one would admit to that.

What you need most right now is someone who pushes you to be more social at tournaments, even if it's outside of your comfort zone. I personally know a handful of Smashers who claimed to be antisocial who learned to open up a lot during tournaments, and now they're very outgoing.

Let me be that guy, Jamal. We haven't really talked much at all, but I don't want to see a fellow Smasher and once-Austinite up and quit without giving it a good try. I can't make it to MLG Dallas, but if you go to the next HOBO, I'll push you to open up more with people.

Just focus less on your placing and more on meeting people for at least one tournament. I promise you'll have a much more enjoyable experience.

 

[JOS.fm]

for reals, jamal.
more than 90% of the community is overshadowed by the best players. and I can assure you that even those players would tell you that being with their friends at a tournament is more enjoyable than winning the **** thing. hell, I was happy to see you at smash con queso even if we didn't even play in the same tournament. just seeing a familiar face was cool enough.

so, now that you've admitted that you've been playing the game for the wrong reasons, you should learn to enjoy it.

maybe

 

[-RedShadow]

i hope to make changes by Dallas



i hope

 

[JesusFreak]

There is no try; only do

- Yoda

Honestly, I don't think I could have said it any better than Zigsta did. He hit the nail on the head. I think you have talent at Melee, (Idk about Brawl, I don't pay attention to it) you just let the little things get to you. I remember one of the first times we ever played, you beat my jigglypuff with sheik. That's actually saying something. I typically **** sheiks with puff. But more important than having talent or not is simply enjoying yourself.

I've been playing Melee competitively for 7 years and I have done jack squat. I have nothing to show for it. I'm also awkward as hell, but I don't let that stop me. I go to tourneys because I love the game, I love the competition, and I love the people.

Don't stress so much. You don't need to do anything other than show up and play. Eventually, people will talk to you and you'll get to know them, and they you, just like Zigsta said. You will feel much more comfortable and relaxed, and when you're relaxed, you tend to play better. I've raged plenty (though my "raging" is more "emo-ing" ... I go sit in a corner and pretend to cut my wrists [not really, but I do sit in a corner for 5-10 minutes feeling bad]). But the times I don't are the times where I play my best, and more importantly, they're the times when I enjoy myself the most.

 

[z00ted]

Jamal, major props to you for having the courage to come out and say this in the first place. A lot of people would just quit without saying a word under the same circumstances.

That said, you're putting way too much pressure on yourself, and in my eyes, it's easily fixable.

You want to become a player well-known for his skills. That's a good thing, and an admirable one at that. There's two ways to achieve this goal: 1) Crush people at Brawl 2) Be social with people

Frankly, you don't fit the bill for number 1. No shame in that--few people do. Personally, I played it by number 2. By just talking with people, especially about non-Smash related topics, they'll get to know you more as a person, and vice-versa. And then that person will remember you more than if you hadn't talked to them. And by getting someone to know you as a person more, they're more invested in seeing you grow as a person and a player.

Like it or not, you've actually gotten the hardest part done with: People know you! True, you're known as the guy who rages, but you're absolutely not a Nobody. Pretty sure no one would admit to that.

What you need most right now is someone who pushes you to be more social at tournaments, even if it's outside of your comfort zone. I personally know a handful of Smashers who claimed to be antisocial who learned to open up a lot during tournaments, and now they're very outgoing.

Let me be that guy, Jamal. We haven't really talked much at all, but I don't want to see a fellow Smasher and once-Austinite up and quit without giving it a good try. I can't make it to MLG Dallas, but if you go to the next HOBO, I'll push you to open up more with people.

Just focus less on your placing and more on meeting people for at least one tournament. I promise you'll have a much more enjoyable experience.

^this

I would get into alot of other stuff but I barely know you.
Don't quit yet.

PLEASE friendly me at MLG Dallas / next HOBO so I can get to know you better.

 

[Denti]

I've been in this situation at one point as well... it's hard ****

don't quit, mario party was too boss with you XD

 

[The_Smash_Champ]

First and foremost, I just want to apologize to everyone who attended HOBO 28 this past weekend. I feel as though my actions were completely unprofessional and immature, and for that I'm sorry for making myself [once again] look like a complete moron.

Recently, I've made an important discovery about myself: I can't have fun with Smash anymore. Every match I play, whether it's tournament, money match or just a friendly, I find myself always trying to win, never trying to learn anything from my mistakes, just win. If you want to be part of this community (or any gaming community in general), you want to avoid this mindset as much as you can. If you don't, you may find yourself being cast out and thought of as a sore loser or a nobody. Ever since I've started playing smash competitively I've known this, but I could never put this concept into practice because I'm too competitive, pig-headed and antisocial.

But I'm not here to make excuses for my actions. I'm not here to garner attention on these forums. I'm posting this as an opportunity to apologize to the TX community as a whole. I'm not improving at all (I may have gotten worse, in fact), and I feel as though I'm holding TX back in more ways than one. All I've ever wanted was to be considered a player who could hold his own against the best in the nation/world, not someone who was only known for acting like a **** fool at every tournament he goes to.

I've come to a decision. After MLG Dallas I'm going to quit. The South as a whole has already grown into a national threat without me, and I don't want to make TX look stupid if I ever go to a national.

I hope to see everyone @ MLG, and I wish the TX community the best beyond that.

Lol thats what you get for playing Brawl, the most epic failure tournament game ever created. Quit, there are only another 500 brawlers there to replace you.

 

[Frame Perfect]

yea let's all agree with the smash champ BRAWL IS BETYTER THSN MELEE! we all care about this **** still

 

[The_Smash_Champ]

yea let's all agree with the smash champ BRAWL IS BETYTER THSN MELEE! we all care about this **** still

lol fail, and its MELEE IS BETYTER THSN BRAWL! and yes we do care

 

[Frame Perfect]

yea youre right i can't read and i've never played melee before. you should take my money, after you figure out what's going on here

 

[The_Smash_Champ]

yea youre right i can't read and i've never played melee before. you should take my money, after you figure out what's going on here

? Lol i saw him getting angry from the melee side, he slammed the table like 5 times, he lost at brawl, big deal, the game is as competitive as flipping coins, i would get angry too if i went for heads and it landed in tails 5 times in a row. What i am trying to say is pretty much Brawl is fail. Oh and Xyro/tgm, thanks for being an ******* and moving us by being a ****, its people like you that represent the brawl community, and you make them look like a bunch of low lives who cant accept that there are people who still play an old game because we think its better, so much better that we dont even consider Brawl real smash. Pretty much just saying you are a **** (we already knew that thought). Oh and... Brawl sucks. And anyone who plays Brawl in this community is a geek who fails to see how bad the game is. Ofcourse red shad got bored of the game, the game SUCKS.

 

[Denti]

people like you smash champ only have melee friends

 

[Frame Perfect]

allow me to broaden your perspective champ...

07

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx9izaT7KBI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15zYKH1y8_g

i can accept that people like an old game, not everyone is as easily impressionable as tgm and you think

 

[The_Smash_Champ]

people like you smash champ only have melee friends

Lol? its the opposite, all my friends are hard working people who are trying to do well in school so we can make a life out of ourselves, i play melee cause its fun, not because i there are a lot of people in the community so i can win more money because if you really wanted to make money, Brawl=fail. Even ken only won a total of 55k in melee over like 3 years, thats almost nothing compared to an actual job, and im not talking about a college drop out job like most of the community is composed of either. You are either one of those new kids who joined smash because you liked Brawl, or an old melee player who loves to take money from the new brawlers, or an old melee player like Allan who is just a ****** who believes that because Nintendo throws a new smash at us, we are forced to play it just cause of the revenue. If he really wanted money he would host Halo tournaments because Halo community ***** the Brawl community, in both numbers and actually playing a legit game.

Brawl
People: fail
Community size: big
Game: fail

Melee
People:win
Community size: small
Game: win

Halo
People: win
Community: win
Game: win

Which in algebraic terms
Brawl=FAIL.

 

[RT]

Well, I see this topic has been horribly derailed in less than 15 posts and somehow turned into Brawl vs Melee vs HALO...bravo.

UTDZac? Player 4?

 

[JesusFreak]

That's a shame that y'all had to ruin a thread like this. I hope Redshadow reads the few posts of actual good advice before this gets closed.

I happen to like people in general, whether they play Brawl or Melee. Why the hate?

 

[Zigsta]

Stop turning this thread into a Brawl vs. Melee thread.

 

[Rubyiris]

Here's what you do:

Quit brawl and play a game that has relevance;

Like Melee, or starcraft.

 

[-RedShadow]

..........................................























w/e

I've said what I wanted to say.

Thanks everyone-who-didn't-troll for the encouraging words.

Mods, if you please.

 

[Xyro77]

? Lol i saw him getting angry from the melee side, he slammed the table like 5 times, he lost at brawl, big deal, the game is as competitive as flipping coins, i would get angry too if i went for heads and it landed in tails 5 times in a row. What i am trying to say is pretty much Brawl is fail. Oh and Xyro/tgm, thanks for being an ******* and moving us by being a ****, its people like you that represent the brawl community, and you make them look like a bunch of low lives who cant accept that there are people who still play an old game because we think its better, so much better that we dont even consider Brawl real smash. Pretty much just saying you are a **** (we already knew that thought). Oh and... Brawl sucks. And anyone who plays Brawl in this community is a geek who fails to see how bad the game is. Ofcourse red shad got bored of the game, the game SUCKS.

Lol? its the opposite, all my friends are hard working people who are trying to do well in school so we can make a life out of ourselves, i play melee cause its fun, not because i there are a lot of people in the community so i can win more money because if you really wanted to make money, Brawl=fail. Even ken only won a total of 55k in melee over like 3 years, thats almost nothing compared to an actual job, and im not talking about a college drop out job like most of the community is composed of either. You are either one of those new kids who joined smash because you liked Brawl, or an old melee player who loves to take money from the new brawlers, or an old melee player like Allan who is just a ****** who believes that because Nintendo throws a new smash at us, we are forced to play it just cause of the revenue. If he really wanted money he would host Halo tournaments because Halo community ***** the Brawl community, in both numbers and actually playing a legit game.

Brawl
People: fail
Community size: big
Game: fail

Melee
People:win
Community size: small
Game: win

Halo
People: win
Community: win
Game: win

Which in algebraic terms
Brawl=FAIL.

Still as uneducated as ever. Im pretty sure u still suck at melee too. keep it up!

 

[AeroLink_the_SoulMaster]

^ Quoted For Truth.

@ Red Shadow: You don't have to quit. If you have to, just take a break and you'll be back as fresh as ever.

 

[GeneralWoodman]

in algebraic terms all those letters are variables without value.
Just like your opinions which you consider to be fact. You can't generalize the people and communities until you've met everyone in each community. Stop being a prick and just play what makes you happy.

 

[The_Smash_Champ]

Still as uneducated as ever.

uneducated? look whose talking

Im pretty sure u still suck at melee too. keep it up!

underestimating me is a criminal offense nowadays

 

[BRLNK88]

My girlfriend isn't even a hardcore smasher and she thinks Brawl is boring as ****, that should tell you something.

There's also an extensive project right now to try and turn the game into Melee, that should tell you something.
I respect that the game is competitive in that a few years in it still has a very large community, I simply don't see how people find the game fun. To me a fighting game is about being able to COMBO your opponent, which isn't what Brawl is about.

As for Jamal, I've noticed that you always apologize after having an outburst, which is great, and tells me you shouldn't give up (on Melee). As said earlier, hardly anyone is gonna make a lot of money playing this game, so its better just to focus on having fun.

 

[The_Smash_Champ]

My girlfriend isn't even a hardcore smasher and she thinks Brawl is boring as ****, that should tell you something.

There's also an extensive project right now to try and turn the game into Melee, that should tell you something.
I respect that the game is competitive in that a few years in it still has a very large community, I simply don't see how people find the game fun. To me a fighting game is about being able to COMBO your opponent, which isn't what Brawl is about.

As for Jamal, I've noticed that you always apologize after having an outburst, which is great, and tells me you shouldn't give up (on Melee). As said earlier, hardly anyone is gonna make a lot of money playing this game, so its better just to focus on having fun.

Thankyou for someone finally standing up to the truth, i have had people who are complete noobs agree that melee is better. And they don't even have the same arguments we do, while we say melee has more depth than brawl. they just simply say melee is fun and brawl is boring as hell, it has happened to me so many times already with people that you wouldn't even think play any kind of games. I could clearly see the argument that melee>brawl is a opinion, BUT ITS A FACT THAT MELEE>BRAWL IS AN ACCEPTED NORM. So its kind of a way of reminding you Brawlers that although Brawl is newer, you have to remember that melee WAS BETTER AND WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER.

 

[DallasPhat]

God melee people are such haters. Red, whatever you decide to do, do it for yourself and no one else. If you feel like you want to quit then quit bro, but all I'm saying is if you come back to the community I'll gladly welcome you back.

 

[JesusFreak]

Hey, not all of us are haters! But yea... a lot of Melee players are giving the rest of us a really bad rep.

 

[Sinister Slush]

? Lol i saw him getting angry from the melee side, he slammed the table like 5 times, he lost at brawl, big deal, the game is as competitive as flipping coins, i would get angry too if i went for heads and it landed in tails 5 times in a row. What i am trying to say is pretty much Brawl is fail. Oh and Xyro/tgm, thanks for being an ******* and moving us by being a ****, its people like you that represent the brawl community, and you make them look like a bunch of low lives who cant accept that there are people who still play an old game because we think its better, so much better that we dont even consider Brawl real smash. Pretty much just saying you are a **** (we already knew that thought). Oh and... Brawl sucks. And anyone who plays Brawl in this community is a geek who fails to see how bad the game is. Ofcourse red shad got bored of the game, the game SUCKS.

Lol? its the opposite, all my friends are hard working people who are trying to do well in school so we can make a life out of ourselves, i play melee cause its fun, not because i there are a lot of people in the community so i can win more money because if you really wanted to make money, Brawl=fail. Even ken only won a total of 55k in melee over like 3 years, thats almost nothing compared to an actual job, and im not talking about a college drop out job like most of the community is composed of either. You are either one of those new kids who joined smash because you liked Brawl, or an old melee player who loves to take money from the new brawlers, or an old melee player like Allan who is just a ****** who believes that because Nintendo throws a new smash at us, we are forced to play it just cause of the revenue. If he really wanted money he would host Halo tournaments because Halo community ***** the Brawl community, in both numbers and actually playing a legit game.

Brawl
People: fail
Community size: big
Game: fail

Melee
People:win
Community size: small
Game: win

Halo
People: win
Community: win
Game: win

Which in algebraic terms
Brawl=FAIL.

Putting Halo in the same pool as Brawl has automatically made you fail even harder. Halo sucks and took what... 5 games till they started doin it right on Halo Reach?

uneducated? look whose talking
underestimating me is a criminal offense nowadays

I lol'd too much. Is he like.. seriously 14.
Or just some 19 year old full of hot air thinking he's Gods Prophet who uses Captain Falcon cause he's Played by only the manliest of men. And most likely CF mains in Melee didn't like Brawl, Cause of this Meleers call him worthless because HE CAN'T DO COMBOS, and as such is never picked in Brawl by anyone. Basically to me if it wasn't for the FALCON PUNCH!!!!!! And Falcon KNEE!!!! Noone would play him (No memes, no lovers)

 

[-RedShadow]

ok seriously

someone close this

 

[Player-4]

Guys I can't name search (because my name suck/too common) so either PM me just report posts, that's the most effective way for me to see these threads because I can't keep up with every thread that goes on in Southwest