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I am nowhere near a Lucario-Supporter but I am an avid Pokemon Player and I have to say that Cinder is right on this part. In R/G/B, Ivysaur never learned Bullet Seed, Squirtle could never learn Waterfall, and Charizard could never learn Rock Smash. While they are First Gen Pokemon, they are Third Gen Incarnations.
First of all, no one wants Waluigi in Brawl. Anyway, saying all of the current Pokemon reps are 1st Gen doesn't mean there can't be others. Secondly, how does a character being popular hurt his chances in Brawl? Lastly, Lucario has so much potential for a moveset it ain't funny. Not having him in Brawl is a crime.
No one wants Waluigi and it's missing the obvious Geno
They are only using 3rd gen moves
You could actually be right. . . And there was a Tingle cameo in TP from what I remember.
Hence Making them Third Gen Incarnations.They are only using 3rd gen moves
I don't think that they are "3rd gen incarnations" of anything. . . .just FireRed/ Leaf Green/ RBG starters.
And I still don't see the importance of this.
First of all I'm going to say I am one of those people that hate the idea of lucario being in brawl. I just want to make that clear.
I don't think Lucario is going to make it at all. From my experience, every pokemon thats been in the ssb series have been pokemon that appear in red/blue (except pichu, I will talk about him in a second). There is pikachu, jigglypuff, mewtwo, and now the pokemon trainer with squirtle, ivysaur, and charizard (all red/blue pokemon). Sure, there is pichu in ssbm, but he's a clone, and I'm highly sure pichu won't make it, mainly since one of pikachu's costumes is the blue goggles on his head (one of pichu's costumes). Another reason why I think pichu won't be making it is because he is a clone that not only has the same attacks as pickachu, but also is the same, electrice type pokemon, as pikachu. Therefore that excludes pichu.
(Yes I have realised I drifted off topic with lucario)
With lucario, it's the same scenario about him not being a red/blue pokemon. He's a new one made for the ds. I personally don't see why he's so popular, compared to any other pokemon. He's a fighting type (I believe; I haven't played the ds game nor do I plan to) that would make a good addition, but there are other characters in brawl that could easily be a fighter. If anything, since he's so popular, he should be a pokeball. I personally hate the idea of adding such a new pokemon onto ssbb as a playable character. Not to mention what his alternate colours would be, lol.
Anyways that's my explanation why I believe pichu, nor lucario, will make it.
(Btw I am aware that it's going to be a "Me against everyone else that posts" sort of argument here, so I'm ready. Reinforcements would be nice :])
Not to be rude, but...
Yea, true, but this is a fighting game. Well, I guess it doesn't really matter, because the Pokemons we got before weren't really fighting type. But still I'm just saying that putting Lucario would be the smartest thing to do. The only other Pokemon I could see getting in before would be maybe Blaziken. Other than that, there's no one.
Squirtle has Withdraw. Ivysaur has Vine Whip. Charizard has Flamethrower and Rock Smash.They are only using 3rd gen moves
Actuallly, it is...it has a lot of merchandise (plushes, t-shirts, etc.) in Japan...
.I mean't " they are just using a few 3rd gen attacks. . . .whats the big deal".
If having alot of merch means anything than P&M gets my vote. . . .they have WAY more pokey crap than I have seen for Lucario or any non-Pika pokemon in Japan.
I see your point, but like other people said before, if that was the case then they wouldn't have put people like Ike or Lucas who represents newer people from their series. So, I think it's kinda fiar to reject a character just because of that reason.
This is bad reasoning because of Ike and Lucas.
??? Elaborate.
Yes I did see the post above commenting the same thing. I just wanted to answer to this one because I wanted to say I have no clue who geno is (I thought he was from motherbound, or whatever the game is called
). Anyways I have seen threads about Waluigi. Here's his "official" thread.Thanks for the free bump.
Lol yea I've posted that on the first post (in different words of course). Thanks for getting it to peoples attention though ^ ^
Nice Idea, wrong thread :D
I already posted on pichu in the first post. Nice sarcasm (I think), has nothing to do with the thread though.
I've already stated about the pokemon (and mario) reps on page 2.
Why don't you read the thread before posting that. It's already been said. People also say "I actually support lucario" and don't explain their reasons, therefore I can't take them seriously. I posted my reasons why I don't think he should make it. Why don't you post why you think he will?
He's the only likely representation for a 4th Gen rep.
-So what if he's a rep for the 4th generation of pokemon. SSBB is representing pokemon in general, not each series of pokemon
-That just backs up my argument even more.
It's great that your a pokemon fan and all, but come on. It's rediculous to have more and more pokemon representatives for each ssb game. The basic ones we have now are enough. Why do you care so much if lucario is in. I don't mind if he's in, just not as a PC (but as a Pokeball instead). I know I'm not going to win this fight against you because you know way more about pokemon than I do, but it doesn't mean I've changed my mind about lucario. All you needed to do was post what you thought about it, and left. Not try to make yourself seem smart by bashing me.
