Official Hyrule Hangout - Sheik Social

[Absol]

Might be showing up around here more. ^_^ Avoided it at first because a lot of the other boards are kind of goofy right now, but the Sheik boards seem fairly organized.

Hey Ralph, heard you did great on Friday.

 

[Ralph Cecil]

I didn't(played like garbage), but thanks anyways. ^_^ Heard you had to drop out last second. >_< Hope we can meet at the Columbus tournament after Apex or something though. :D

 

[Absol]

We need to play for sure. Were two of like, four sheik mains in kentucky lol

 

[Tristan_win]

Might be showing up around here more. ^_^ Avoided it at first because a lot of the other boards are kind of goofy right now, but the Sheik boards seem fairly organized.

Thank you!

and please do. For how organize we are we are serving less then a dozen active posters. Having more tournament going players would definitely be much appreciated.

 

[Jaxas]

Hey everyone, I saw that the Rosalina boards made a general "What stages are good for our character" thread, and I realized I'm not actually sure what stages are good and bad for Sheik. I feel like most stages generally aren't bad, honestly, but I'd still like to get everyone else's thoughts as well. From what I've seen, Lylat is pretty good (platform heights are great for Fair strings and Usmash, and lips don't mess up Sheik's recovery nearly as much as many others. On the other hand, Kongo makes it much more difficult to kill. What are everyone else's thoughts, and also should we make a general thread for this?

 

[Ralph Cecil]

We need to play for sure. Were two of like, four sheik mains in kentucky lol

I only knew of us and Joey lol. Don't really think of Judo yet since he doesn't enter anything to my knowledge.

Thank you!

and please do. For how organize we are we are serving less then a dozen active posters. Having more tournament going players would definitely be much appreciated.

Np ^_^ Also yeah more tourney goers makes exchanging ideas and experiences godlike for advancing a character. :D

EDIT: To the stage thing, I prefer SV and T&C most of the time, because it seems like they have small boundaries and having a platform offstage makes it nice to relieve pressure at times. I reallly don't like Kongo Jungle, because it feels really hard to approach someone who is in the sloped area and we can't make them approach anymore with needle camping. I also just don't like it due to it being a platform stage and how my up-b will sometimes miss the ledge on platform stages. Just a few things that are just my opinion on things tho.

 

[Killtrox]

As far as stages go, I'm really not a fan of Delfino. Other top characters have it a bit easy coming from under the stage, while Sheik has few viable options for covering that stuff (I'm looking at you, Sonic).

Also, I played some friendlies today at Paragon and played Falcon for ****s and gigs. Despite understanding Sheik more, I perform better with the Cap. What do? :/

 

[Ralph Cecil]

I kind of view Falcon a lot like Sheik honestly with the consistency of his throw followups. Just with a worse recovery and neutral game, but better hitboxes and kill power.

 

[Killtrox]

I kind of view Falcon a lot like Sheik honestly with the consistency of his throw followups. Just with a worse recovery and neutral game, but better hitboxes and kill power.

Oh lord I saw some bad hitboxes on attacks from Sheik at Paragon today. Watched both Wizzrobe and MasterRaven's sets and things weren't connecting that definitely should have. I think Raven had a fair that straight up went through an opponent and Wizz had a bouncing fish that connected but didn't actually connect.

And at least with Falcon I won't accidentally side-b and plummet to my death. :|

 

[ArikadoSD]

lol I played against a guy on for glory who changed his name to "LOL SHEIK" after I won against him with my Sheik; played Greninja the next game and I think he switched to his main (Captain Falcon) because he was playing significantly better with that one rather than the character he used first, which I forgot who. Still won. poor guy left afterwards.

I didn't know some people change their names like this to "send messages" lol, I spent the next 10 minutes just laughing about it.

 

[?.?]

Oh that reminds me, I played against this guy named Walnut in for glory for about 40 matches. I don't think he ever won a match but holy hell he went from doing one thing the entire match to actually reading my di and applying combos I used on him at the end... Never seen someone adapt so much so quickly. It probably helped I played almost every character on the cast against him before playing sheik. Poor guy got two stocked at the end, and when I tried to play sheik again just sd'ed twice and left... Shame too because I really was enjoying our matches. :S Sheik feels too good sometimes.

 

[Tristan_win]

lol I played against a guy on for glory who changed his name to "LOL SHEIK" after I won against him with my Sheik; played Greninja the next game and I think he switched to his main (Captain Falcon) because he was playing significantly better with that one rather than the character he used first, which I forgot who. Still won. poor guy left afterwards.

I didn't know some people change their names like this to "send messages" lol, I spent the next 10 minutes just laughing about it.

Yeah I've had people do that to me as well, it's a bit silly. What's also funny is when people try to outplay your Sheik in a ditto only to get 2 stock because they have no idea what the **** they are doing. Thankfully not everyone is like that, I've had some really nice players change their tag to 'GG' before leaving. Which interesting enough you can see in the waiting room.

People like that I like to add to my friend list though the previous played selection if the lag isn't too polarizing.

 

[#HBC | Scary]

So I got 13th out of 210 at Paragon with Sheik and Zelda.
Zex got 4th out of 252 at Final Battle in Cali.

Starting to pull in some bigger results it appears.

 

[ArikadoSD]

Yeah I've had a guy that I played really good matches against change his name to GG once, it's a nice gesture indeed.

 

[Absol]

One time I changed my tag to smash and got tons of tipper usmashes on Tristan.

 

[Sgt-Sol]

Help me learn the sheik matchup when i get wii u Son, woulb be a great help if i goto a tourney and win awith greninja my dude ill give a big ol shout out

 

[T-skjorte Ninja]

I must say. In Melee, most Sheik players never used Down Special, because that just transform. So that left him in the fight with one less game option. And still, managed to become a top tier viable character.

In Brawl, most stuff are pretty much the same. Just the physiq of the game killed him slightly.

Now in this game, oh dearest me. Giving Sheik a new move instead of transformation, suddenly gave him a whole new world of killing options. A safe, disjointed kill move, and a edge-guard black hole bomb. Though, people rarely uses the latter one.



I must say, I'm impressed how one simple skill gave him so much more power than he used to have already.
Lovely.

 

[ArikadoSD]

I must say. In Melee, most Sheik players never used Down Special, because that just transform. So that left him in the fight with one less game option. And still, managed to become a top tier viable character.

In Brawl, most stuff are pretty much the same. Just the physiq of the game killed him slightly.

Now in this game, oh dearest me. Giving Sheik a new move instead of transformation, suddenly gave him a whole new world of killing options. A safe, disjointed kill move, and a edge-guard black hole bomb. Though, people rarely uses the latter one.



I must say, I'm impressed how one simple skill gave him so much more power than he used to have already.
Lovely.

Sheik is a woman.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I'm having trouble with fair to bouncing fish. I **** it up more than I care to admit, leaving me wondering if I should just continue to fair or apply pressure by controlling the space on the edge of the stage.

 

[ArikadoSD]

I'm having trouble with fair to bouncing fish. I **** it up more than I care to admit, leaving me wondering if I should just continue to fair or apply pressure by controlling the space on the edge of the stage.

tbh I also have trouble with that. Sometimes I get to work, but most of the time it doesn't, so I just usually stick with the fair followups.

 

[Ralph Cecil]

False told me to trick to it is that you have to land as you hit the fair. I also sometimes get it just by catching people off guard if a fair sends them at that distance anyways.

 

[T-skjorte Ninja]

Sheik is a woman.

I prefer to go by the japanese background story and call it "he". :v

 

[KuroganeHammer]

There is no backstory. Sheik is Zelda wearing a breast binder and eye contacts.

 

[Absol]

Are we really doing this?

 

[T-skjorte Ninja]

Are we really doing this?

We don't have to. You can think A, I can think B, and we could all just leave it at that?

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I'm hopefully going to get around to FAF timers in my frame data thread today

 

[Absol]

We don't have to. You can think A, I can think B, and we could all just leave it at that?

Clearly Sheik is an Absol

 

[T-skjorte Ninja]

I see where that came ffrom.

 

[MetaBhreat]

Can we discuss back throw a bit?

Forward throw is what it is, we are all familiar with that.
Down throw can combo into Uair, and sometimes Vanish....
But back throw has an interesting feel to it. To me, it seems that back throw is a better option for a Bouncing Fish followup.

I haven't properly tested it, but playing around with it so far has given me this impression, so I thought I would put it out there.

 

[Ralph Cecil]

You can catch people with bthrow -> BF if they aren't expecting it, but that's sort of the extent of it to my knowledge. I've even gotten fair followups and what not if people DI improperly. The only use I see for it is DI mixups and just to get someone offstage/to get positional advantage.

 

[T-skjorte Ninja]

Do it once to test the water. If the target falls for it often as a scrub, it's a safe move for you. :v

 

[Ralph Cecil]

Ayyyy question I had about one of the ATs I saw in the AT directory, does the ledge stealing thing with the nade time it to where the guy you knock off the ledge gets hit by the nade's hitbox or does it just limit options?

 

[Absol]

Ayyyy question I had about one of the ATs I saw in the AT directory, does the ledge stealing thing with the nade time it to where the guy you knock off the ledge gets hit by the nade's hitbox or does it just limit options?

limit options. ive never bounced them off into it at the correct timing. i suppose it depends how much you fall with it?

 

[Ralph Cecil]

kk So pretty much if you get the timing down for trump -> bair there's really no reason to do it except to be flashy and demoralize players who think it's doing more?

 

[KuroganeHammer]

trump > bair is honestly absurd

also the more i play, the more i like burst grenade

I've been having moderate success with grenade > dash grab

 

[Absol]

trump > bair is honestly absurd

also the more i play, the more i like burst grenade

I've been having moderate success with grenade > dash grab

I like to use it as an edge guard and just use raw vanish in case they try to attack me after the nade is out. I love fire works on the ledge.

 

[Ralph Cecil]

The grab thing kind of just works on people who respect the nade too much. The only time I ever get a use out of it is to lock someone down on the ledge, but I might try experimenting with that sponge nade stuff more.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I'm entering a wifi customs tournament and decided to try some of sheik's custom moves





wat @ penetrating needles ACTUALLY one shotting shields

cool I guess(?)

 

[SFA Smiley]

Sup guys, just thought I'd introduce myself:

I'm Smiley an AZ Sheik main. I also use Ness and GW. Gonna try to post here more often, I have a lot to learn about this character and i'm cramming for Apex

 

[Absol]

Penetrating needles are AMAZING. Throw 3 needles at them, eat their shield, and run up vanish. I'd like to see them shield that.

Sup guys, just thought I'd introduce myself:

I'm Smiley an AZ Sheik main. I also use Ness and GW. Gonna try to post here more often, I have a lot to learn about this character and i'm cramming for Apex

Feels like college